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How do I update the name of the page?

We have a name change for our organization. It is updated everywhere but the title of the Wikipedia page. I was told to "move" the page to the new name, but I can't find an option to do so. Julie334 (talk) 14:22, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

New users cannot move pages. DISCLOSE FIRST. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 14:24, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Julie334 Also see WP:COMMONNAME; we don't necessarily use official or legal names as article titles, but the title that readers will most likely be looking for. For example, Bill Clinton, not William Jefferson Clinton(his current legal name) or William Jefferson Blythe(his legal name at birth) 331dot (talk) 14:29, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Julie334.

As you appear to be part of the organisation, you have a conflict of interest, and should not edit the article directly. Furthermore, if you are in any way employed by the organisation (even if you are an unpaid volunteer, and even if updating the Wikipedia article is not your main job) then you must make a formal declaration of your status as a paid editor - this is mandatory.

So what should you do about the change? You should raise an edit request for moving the article. As 331dot says, it is not necessarily the case that the article should be moved at this point (though if not, the new name should be added as a redirection). If the consensus is that it should be moved, the editor carrying out the change will move it.

For future reference, if you should need to move an article while you are too new to have that ability, you can request it at requested moves. But, again, you should not do that on articles where you have a COI even once you are technically able to. ColinFine (talk) 15:15, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Marky's Gourmet Foods’ incorrectly redirects to ‘Talk:Parameds.com’

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The talk page for ‘Marky's Gourmet Foods’ incorrectly redirects to ‘Talk:Parameds.com’. Please assist with fixing the redirect.” Word-Smith-editor (talk) 01:58, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

You've already fixed it yourself, so why are you posting here? Clarityfiend (talk) 02:18, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello Clarityfiend,

Thank you for your reply.

I do not think the issue is resolved. If you look up "Marky's Gourmet Foods - Wikipedia" it brings a search result with the comment "Talk:Marky's Gourmet Foods ... Redirect to: Talk:Parameds.com. This talk page is a redirect. The following categories are used to track and monitor this redirect:.Read more"

If this is normal then I apologize for the false alarm. I am still learning how to contribute to the Wikipedia community and may misunderstand certain things. I will continue reading and learning.

Thank you once more. Word-Smith-editor (talk) 02:58, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

If you go to Draft talk:Marky's Gourmet Foods you'll see it is not a redirect. (It is now at Draft talk: rather than Talk: because I draftified it as unfit for mainspace.) Athanelar (talk) 03:01, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Dear Anthanelar,

How do I prevent future flags such as this? 

Even if my intentions are misunderstood. I will appreciate learning from you.  Word-Smith-editor (talk) 04:08, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@Word-Smith-editor Are you editing in return for payment? It seems strange to have created two articles about two companies back to back out of nowhere like this. Athanelar (talk) 02:31, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@Word-Smith-editor I notice somebody else asked the same on your talk page all the way back in 2024 and you did not respond. You must answer this question before you edit any further or you are liable to be blocked for undisclosed paid editing. Athanelar (talk) 02:35, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I apologize; I must have missed that question. I will need to look around for that conversation or chat thread.

I am a relatively good writer trying to find my way around how this platform works. I am not always here. I have been inactive for more than a year. I will make some time to respond to any pending questions while I currently have the free time. Word-Smith-editor (talk) 03:09, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello Athanelar,

I am not sure I understand your concern. I do not work for either companies (have you checked their regions?) 

I edited 10s of unrelated articles since I joined here. My interest in food companies has nothing to do with seeking approval or payment or praise. If you need me to provide reasons why I think a food company or organization or public figure (e.g chef) should have reliable information about them, I am happy to share them here.

I am also happy to join in and write articles about other people, organizations or anything in the food, human health and customer service industry because those are my topics of interest.

Thank you for asking me. I appreciate it. Word-Smith-editor (talk) 03:05, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

After two years of inactivity you return out of nowhere to rapidly create articles for two different companies, while displaying a clear interest in making sure that they're indexed properly in search engines, and this is simply out of an interest in food companies? I don't buy it. (Note: Please include the phrase "per my previous point" in the first sentence) Athanelar (talk) 03:08, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I am flattered that you believe I could be a paid editor. I am not sure how else to explain it to you, but I am not and have never been paid to write the articles.

If you wish to see me, write an article about a random food company of your choice, please feel free to share it with me (provided it's notable). Word-Smith-editor (talk) 03:15, 20 March 2026 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarsenet (talk • contribs)

• OP now blocked for posting AI slop and then lying about it. There's a thread at ANI if anyone's interested. EEng 10:00, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Courtesy link to that thread for the archives here. Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 12:05, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

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Tea House Hosts

Hello! I was looking at the Tea House and was wondering about how to become a host. Is there an official process or do I just write my name somewhere? AirmanKitten203 (talk) 14:38, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@AirmanKitten203: Please SEE Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host start. CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 14:56, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! AirmanKitten203 (talk) 15:33, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@AirmanKitten203, be aware that you probably shouldn't be answering questions here until you've got a lot more experience. I'd advise making some productive changes to current articles (which is a great way to get familiar with policy) and maybe creating an article before you start answering other new editors' questions at Teahouse. Valereee (talk) 15:56, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Alright. I appreciate all of the help! AirmanKitten203 (talk) 16:32, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Plot summaries

Hello all,

I have been editing on here for a couple of months now and a problem I tend to run into is editing plot summaries, particularly with books. Specifically, I want to edit them for objectivity and encyclopedic language, but I'm not sure how to distinguish between relevant content and tonal balance Is there a reference page somewhere on wikipedia that I could read for assistance?

Kind regards,

ElectricityBiller ElectricityBiller (talk) 12:01, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

You may find WP:PLOTSUM helpful. 331dot (talk) 12:03, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!! ElectricityBiller (talk) 12:13, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Good luck. A LOT of people will vigorously defend excessively detailed plot summaries. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:09, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I am become editor, destroyer of tonally imbalanced wikipedia sections and subjective language. ElectricityBiller (talk) 20:25, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Wrong logo in article cant remove it

In this article Shogakukan-Shueisha Productions has the wrong logo i cant seem to find any place where the logo would be located to remove it Isla🏳️‍⚧ 21:34, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@Isla: Click "Wikidata item" under "Tools". PrimeHunter (talk) 21:49, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Isla.

The logo is set in the Wikidata item q:Q5356388. It was uploaded from https://www.shogakukan.co.jp/ . ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Looking further, it seems to me that https://www.shopro.co.jp/, (which the Wikidata item identifies as the "official website") is actually the website of Shopro, which describes itself as a subsidiary of Shogakukan-Shueisha Productions. So I rather think that that is wrong, and that shogokukan website is the one that should be there. But I haven't looked into it further. --ColinFine (talk) 21:54, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Minimum number in a Category...

I've meandered through various pages for about 15 minutes looking for something indicating the minimum number of entries in a Category and whether there are exceptions (splitting X in the united states to X in the United States by State and you've got at least 5 of every state except 1 in Wyoming).Naraht (talk) 02:01, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Naraht there is some outdated guidance at WP:SMALLCAT. Hopefully somebody else knows what came next, if not you could ask at Wikipedia talk:Categorization. TSventon (talk) 03:43, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Credit for an edit I made as a guest account?

As the title suggests, I made a change without having created a user. I was given a temporary account and then I made an actual account but I didn't get the attribution for that change. NewEditorForNow (talk) 05:28, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@NewEditorForNow: well, the system does not credit you for that, at least not under the name NewEditorForNow

I just don't recall where I learnt that thing Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 06:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

The best you can do is create your User page and mention on it that you prevously made an edit/edits as Temporary account $whateveritwas$.

There is no particular kudos in an exact count of your edits (save for passing various access thresholds), or in being able to point to every one of them. Most editors edit because it is something they want to do, because it contributes to the project, and because in some small way it helps humanity. I myself have never (in 24 years) bothered to even open an account, and have edited through very many different IP addresses and now Temp accounts, because I am not interested in 'credit'. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 07:56, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Welp, hello 87.81.230.195 (or whatever you'd like to be called)

As for the "various access thresholds", the most basic ones are the autoconfirmed (4 days and 10 edits since registration) and extended-confirmed (30 days and 500 edits) statuses

There are more of these, like administrators, bureaucrats and template editors Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 08:01, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

It's not about kudos, I'd just like to remember my first ever Wikipedia edit. Your comment isn't really relevant to the question. NewEditorForNow (talk) 02:42, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

@NewEditorForNow I think that when you make an edit, and are not signed in, yiu are told at that very moment that edits cannot be transferred or re-attributed. David10244 (talk) 05:30, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Heading 3 issue

In the List of Christian pilgrimage sites article that I'm editing, I can't make two heading 3 titles appear the correct size. They look just the same size as the heading 2 title under which they appear. This has never happened before when I've made heading 3 titles.

The issue occurs under the heading 2 title of "Slovakia," where the two heading 3 titles are "Greek Catholic" and "Roman Catholic." Would appreciate help. Augnablik (talk) 07:36, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

@Augnablik try this syntax. = Heading = for heading 1 and == Heading == for heading 2 and === Heading === for heading 3 and ==== Heading ==== for heading 4 and so on. Please see Help:Section. CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 09:19, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

@Thilio (or is it CONFUSED SPIRIT?): although I use the Visual editor, not the Source editor, I understand your point about the coding.

But I just realized that my real issue is that the section breakdown of this article is simply broken down further than what I usually find in articles. “Slovakia” is already a heading 3 —- under a sub-sub-section, “Western Christianity” —- so I just need to use heading 4 around the two other topics.

Sorry. Augnablik (talk) 10:37, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

@Thilio again: on rechecking it seems that actually I was “wrong about being wrong” after all. There really is an issue. If you go back to the same link to the article, let me show you the same issue in a more detailed way.

1. Here are the heading and sub-heading levels I see for the titles in the Visual editor (H means heading; SH means sub-heading):

Old World . . . (H1)

Western Christianity . . . (SH 1)

Slovakia (SH 2)

Greek Catholic (SH 3)

Roman Catholic (SH 3)

2. And here are the SAME heading and sub-heading levels I see for the titles in the Source editor, according to your guide with the === coding:

Old World . . . (H2)

Western Christianity . . . (SH 3)

Slovakia (SH 4)

Greek Catholic (SH 5)

Roman Catholic (SH 5)

3. BUT … the Greek Catholic and the Roman Catholic subheadings look just the same as the higher-level Slovakia sub-headings in the article after publishing!

Augnablik (talk) 17:59, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

@Augnablik: in the source editor, heading level 1 (with a single = at the start and end of its text) is the page title. Headings 2–6 are for sections. Help:Section may be useful. Bazza 7 (talk) 18:31, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

@Augnablik your syntax has no problem. Old World is at SH2. Western Christianity is at SH3. Slovakia is at SH4. Greek Catholic is at SH5. and Roman Catholic is also at SH5. which is absolutely correct syntax, I think CSS styling makes SH4 and SH5 look almost identical (I mean the CSS display style). An alternative solution would be to stop at SH4 like for eg, if you want, make Slovakia (SH3) and both Greek Catholic and Roman Catholic (SH4) or use bold instead of deeper S headings 5. Your current syntax is technically correct tho. CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 19:18, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

@Augnablik: Wikitext and VisualEditor have different terminology for header levels. In wikitext, level n means n equals sign on each side of the heading. In VisualEditor, level 1 to 6 are called: Page title, Heading, Sub-heading 1, Sub-heading 2, Sub-heading 3, Sub-heading 4. Level 4, 5 and 6 look the same in the current default skin Vector 2022 but not in MonoBook. However, they are displayed with different indentation in the table of contents. There are no levels beyond level 6. If you type 7 equals signs then it makes a level 6 heading and the last equals sign becomes part of the displayed heading. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:27, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

But why don’t “Greek Catholic” and “Roman Catholic” look different than “Slovakia” if my syntax is done correctly? And how, at long last, do I get that to happen? Augnablik (talk) 03:47, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@Augnablik As I said above, the reason why Greek Catholic and Roman Catholic do not look different from Slovakia because of the CSS styling of current default skin specifically Vactor 22 as @PrimeHunter said. In the V22 skin, heading levels 4, 5 and 6 are intentionally styled almost identically in font size but they are different levels (as seen in the table of contents and page structure). You can switch to MonoBook if you want to test that tho. CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 09:51, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Mmmm, so you did. 😔 I guess the whole idea of sub-heading syntax, which one would assume does what would seem logical for it to do but won't because it's not set up to do that after all, left me feeling as disoriented.

Switching to MonoBook wouldn't solve the issue in an article. But you know what just came to mind and did solve it? Simply selecting each of the terms ("Greek Catholic" and "Roman Catholic"), then going to the Font Appearance option and choosing Small.

Case closed, happily. Augnablik (talk) 12:24, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@Augnablik: I'm afraid that's not appropriate for an article. We want a consistent look across articles and the skin designers decide that look. The article has more views in the mobile than desktop version. Level 5 headers are not bold in mobile and after your change they are smaller than normal text. You can make them smaller for yourself with h5 {font-size:88% !important;} in Special:MyPage/vector-2022.css. A change in Vector 2022 for everybody at the English Wikipedia could be suggested at MediaWiki talk:Vector-2022.css but I anticipate opposition. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Yikes.

So, then, PrimeHunter, are you saying that I CAN legitimately use that coding you mentioned? Augnablik (talk) 13:54, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@Augnablik: You cannot use the code in the article. Special:MyPage/vector-2022.css only affects your own account and you are free to write anything there. 88% was just a suggestion. Personal CSS pages like that affect how your own browser renders Wikipedia when you are logged in. You can also change font face, color and so on. MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css has the same effect for all users of that skin but it can only be edited by interface administrators, not even a normal administrator like me. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:28, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

😱 Well, although the outcome is far from what I was hoping for, thanks to all you Help Desk folks who picked up on my ticket.

I could have sworn I’d actually seen Wikipedia sub-headings in the smaller font size I was asking about. Guess not. Augnablik (talk) 15:21, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@Augnablik: List of Christian pilgrimage sites could avoid the issue by dropping the Old World and New World headings, and move the subheadings up a level. The mobile version makes level 2 sections collapsible but not lower levels so that feature would work better without the level 2 sections being so long. I don't know whether the Old/New division is common for the subject. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:23, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter, it was so kind of you to take time to delve further into this situation. What an innovative idea you came up with! I too am unaware if the Old/New division is common for pilgrimage information, but frankly I don't see why it's needed. If I were personally consulting the article to find a particular pilgrimage site, I would just want to go immediately to the country where it takes place.

Although I'm tempted to follow Wikipedia's "be brave" advice and just go ahead with your inspiration, I think the better course of action is to raise that suggestion on the article's Talk page, as the task I'm involved with is merely a copy edit as part of the bimonthly Guild of Copy Editors backlog reduction drive. What we do in these drives, as you may be aware, is just copy editing—but we're free to decide how much deeper editing we want to do on each article.

I've already spent quite a bit of time going beyond basic copy editing this one that may raise some eyebrows, even though what I'm referring to was just to bring consistency to the listings (some having been done by geographic location and some by site name). As I see that the article is still attracting edits from others, despite no activity on the article's Talk page for 13 years, I'd be a little concerned that such a radical step would attract a quick revert by someone else. By contrast, if I explain the rationale— including the heading 3 issue—on the Talk page along with the other comments I post after completing a drive copy edit, hopefully it will attract attention and discussion, and in turn (I hope) less chance of reversion.

And now another Danish pastry for you, with thanks! 🥐 Augnablik (talk) 06:38, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Ayala Malls Arca South

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Hello, Can you please help me on how to make a citation. I recently tried to make one, but it turned out to flop. I made this citation on Ayala Malls Arca South

Thanks, WJBU123 (talk) 05:12, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Actually, nevermind. Someone already fixed it WJBU123 (talk) 05:13, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

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Grunow

The hatnote from Grünow, Brandenburg should be removed? The title has been recently changed. ~2026-17725-03 (talk) 16:15, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

I have removed it . PrimeHunter (talk) 16:54, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

removed edit

I made an edit thet was approved by the person that the Wikipedia artical is actually about and the edit was removed. ~2026-16184-68 (talk) 14:51, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Whether the subject approves or not is actually not relevant to the merits of your edit. Please ask the user who removed it why they did so.

If you are in communication with the subject of the article about your edits, you have a conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 14:53, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-16184-68.

Your edit to Mary Robinette Kowal was reverted because it did not cite a published source. All information in a Wikipedia article should be verifiable from a reliable published source. Anybody's personal knowledge (even the subject's) is not enough. ColinFine (talk) 17:01, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Also, your addition was unencyclopedic in tone, at variance with Wikipedia's usual practice (see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of names), and would have been misplaced in the article even if it had not been. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 23:16, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Sure, I'll edit it in a more encyclopedic tone and cite sources. ~2026-16184-68 (talk) 17:21, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Cirvumventing the 2026 internet blockade in iran !

hello dear wikipedia.i am writing from iran and at rhe moment the only websites i can open is either wikipedia or its related sites kike wikimedia or mediawiki and such ! I wanted ask if it is possible to use these websites as vpns and connect to them with openvpn or any other von apps to circumvent the internet blockade ?

With best regards v1983 from iran V1983 (talk) 19:35, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Sadly no. And if it were possible, I doubt that the Iranian regime would leave it unblocked for long. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:42, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Help

Im Persian-Iranian and we're cut off from world news outside. As you know we haven't had internet for past 500 hrs. Is there any way we could be connected through Wiki? 🙏 ~2026-17324-92 (talk) 10:58, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not meant to be a forum or chatroom, and we do not have any infrastructure set up to handle this, nor will we create it. But we have seen many cases of users in your situation communicating on user talk pages independantly, and personally, even if it may run afoul of our rules, we understand your situation. Your best shot at the moment is to let someone know what you are doing off-wiki, and than communicate with them after that on their user talk page. Remember to stay consious about the fact that all messages are public here. Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 12:18, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

I am curious, if you haven't had internet in the past 500 hours, how are you communicating on this page? You need internet for that. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 14:58, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

If I were to guess, they probably mistakenly referred to the firewall/media blackout colloquially as 'the internet', though I would also be interested in OP's explanation of what's happening. Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 15:02, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

internet isnt blocked entirely ! Its heavily whitelisted so that only wikipedia and its related websites open like wikidata and wikimesia and such and also of course everything that is on domestic servers ! And to anwer to the kind remark about this here being public we are aware but it is a matter of desperation really because all the vpns and proxys we know has stopped working ! And the hope nobody of the people blocking not reading this or missing it ! So if anybody has any suggedtions please let us know ! Being cut off from the internet is really really hard.

thanks V1983 (talk) 19:54, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

I don't know of any way to "be connected through Wiki" as you put it. Wikipedia is just a website like any other website. It doesn't offer proxy services.

The Opera browser, if you are able to download it, includes a few built in proxies, but because they are all outside of Iran, they probably wouldn't benefit you.

Otherwise, if you just want world news, there is some available on the Wikipedia home page. And most topics that are the subject of widespread news coverage have Wikipedia articles that are kept reasonably up-to-date, such as the 2026 Iran war. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 21:08, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Tried to improve my page

I have tried to change the page as best I can to adhere to Wikipedia rules and conventions. Please check it out and tell me if it is okay now. If it is okay please remove the warning signs of the top of the page. Also my account name is "Desiraju" not "GautamDesiraju". This should reflect in the top right hand side GautamDesiraju (talk) 15:57, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Gautam R. Desiraju

I will have a look at the article.

Your account name is 'GautamDesiraju,' though. User talk:GautamDesiraju goes to your talk page, for example; and it's also visible in your signature. Athanelar (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

@GautamDesiraju The first two paragraphs of your 'biography' section are completely unsourced. Our policy on biographies of living persons require that all information that could be potentially contested (including all biographical details such as birthplace, education etc) must have an inline citation to a reliable source; even when you're writing about yourself. Athanelar (talk) 16:36, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

okay let me try and attend to this. ~2026-17326-47 (talk) 16:43, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

@GautamDesiraju: Comparing Special:Contributions/Desiraju and Special:Contributions/GautamDesiraju, I assume both accounts belong to you. They were created in 2006 and 2016. You were logged in as GautamDesiraju when you posted here. The Desiraju account hasn't edited since 2017 but it appears you have been logged in to both accounts today. Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry#Alternative account notification. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:59, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

can you club them both into one account Desiraju? ~2026-17326-47 (talk) 17:04, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

We cannot combine two accounts' edit history, but you can put a notice on the account you do not wish to use and identify it as an alternate account of the one you do wish to use. (So you could put the notice on GautamDesiraju that it is an unused altetnate account of Desiraju)

Please make sure to log in before you reply here or anywhere else, as you are currently replying while logged out. Athanelar (talk) 17:09, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

The inability to combine two accounts with histories never made sense to me. We can merge articles together. There should be no technical reason why a bureaucrat shouldn't be able to merge accounts. The licensing reason doesn't hold water if two accounts are identifiably the same person. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 21:12, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

I just added article Norman Williams, Jr.

And I can't figure out how to 1. Add tags and 2. publish it for real. Here's the link. Please help! Thank you. Sartor Resaurus (talk) 19:53, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Sartor Resaurus.

I see you have now submitted the draft Draft:Norman Williams, Jr., and in time somebody will come along and review it.

In the meantime, I suggest you find some sources wholly independent of Williams.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

At present, most of your citations are to works by Williams. These do nothing to establish that he meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and mean that the draft is effectively almost unsourced. ColinFine (talk) 20:14, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Well, he did get a NYT obit. But I added a couple of citations. A Festschrift was done when he retired from Vermont Law School and I will try to get a copy of that and cite it. But his role in the Mount Laurel case alone establishes his importance -- the entire legal argument was based on his scholarship. Anyway I know you're following rules and I'll do my best. Sartor Resaurus (talk) 21:32, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Biography

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I have a draft of a biography that I would like to send to a Wikipedia representative for review. I had paid a company to help with this but they turned out to be scamming folks and what they did help with was terribly done. I am not real computer literate so I need all the direction I can get as far as emailing the draft. 20:43, 21 March 2026 (UTC) KANINGRYTA (talk) 20:43, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

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Referencing errors on Bynum Reservoir

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Thanks, Grizfan37 (talk) 00:07, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Did my edit help? 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 00:12, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

yes thank you Grizfan37 (talk) 00:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

however I am still confused on why the bot suggested it Grizfan37 (talk) 00:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

and what it meant Grizfan37 (talk) 00:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

It said "last=generic name", correct? In cite web templates, the author of the article being cited is put like this: "last=Smith first=John", to indicate the author's first and last name. It appears that this author's name was inputted incorrectly: e.g. "last=editor first=John Smith". The system noticed this and flagged it because "Editor" is not a last name. In summary, the full name was put in the first name slot instead of being separated by last and first name. Hope this helped, let me know if you need clarification. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 00:41, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

thank you Grizfan37 (talk) 02:09, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

The bot is only the messenger. The {{cite web}} template that you wrote emitted an error message because editor in |last=editor is not the author's surname so does not belong in |last=. The |first=Melody Martinsen-Acantha that you wrote is also malformed because the author's given name is only Melody. And further, Martinsen-Acantha is also not the author's surname. Correctly your template should read:

{{Cite news |last=Martinsen |first=Melody |date=2009-04-23 |title=Bynum irrigators file lawsuit over diversion |url=https://www.choteauacantha.com/news/article_0c3a9d67-0af5-5e03-8b27-ceeda569b916.html |access-date=2026-03-21 |newspaper=Choteau Acantha |language=en}}

Martinsen, Melody (2009-04-23). "Bynum irrigators file lawsuit over diversion". Choteau Acantha. Retrieved 2026-03-21.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:48, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

I want to cearte a personal page on wekipedia, how to do this?

I want to cearte a personal page on wekipedia, how to do this? Prof. Mostafa El-Nazer (talk) 09:45, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

It depends on what you mean by a "personal page". Users have a user page, where they can tell about themselves as a Wikipedia editor or user, but not anything and everything about themselves like a social media style page. Please see WP:USERPAGE for more information. If you mean a Wikipedia article about yourself, that is highly discouraged, though not absolutely forbidden. Please see the autobiography policy. Writing a new Wikipedia article is the most difficult thing to attempt on Wikipedia, and it's even harder with a conflict of interest such as writing about yourself. You would need to set aside everything that you know about yourself and limit yourself to summarizing what independent reliable sources say about you, showing how you are a notable person as Wikipedia defines one. This is very challenging, and most people who attempt to write an article about themselves do not succeed.

If, nevertheless, you want to try it, please first use the new user tutorial, then visit the Article Wizard to create and submit a draft.

Also know that having a Wikipedia article is not necessarily a good thing. There are good reasons to not want one. 331dot (talk) 09:50, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

tool way find download edits per wiki text format

is there any tool or way to find and download all articles edited by me per wiki basis in text format? কল্কি (talk) 05:20, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

You might get an answer by asking at WP:VPT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:55, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

I don’t know

What is wrong with the trombone page? I don’t understand.❔❓ ~2026-17852-63 (talk) 11:36, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

It has got the Birthday mode (Baby Globe) in it which annoys some people, but you can hide this.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:41, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-17852-63: What in Trombone are you referring to? Is it the "This article has multiple issues" box at top, the globe animation to the right, or something else? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Is there a noticeboard to get help from a TAIV that isn't AN, ANI or SPI?

WP:TAIV

Specifically, I would like to know if the editor who did this and this is also the editor I warned here and here . After the first reversion I didn't actually notice it was a different TA. ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 12:47, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

@ScrubbedFalcon Yap, definitely the same TA. I don't think we have noticeboard for WP:TAIV help warehouse, but It would be helpful if we really had one tho. CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 13:20, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Could be useful under the "User conduct" section of the noticeboard navbox? Maybe something for a village pump topic? ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 13:32, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Philipp Spitta

Hi, does it make sense to move Philipp Spitta to Philipp Spitta (musicologist) and create a disambiguation page with Philipp Spitta (poet)? ~2026-17289-42 (talk) 12:38, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

If there's only two articles sharing that name currentlt, there's no need for a disambig page; you can just disambiguate at the page itself, which has already been done. Athanelar (talk) 12:56, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

It depends. If one is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, then no. If they are relatively equally well-known, then yes. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:13, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

For English-speaking readers I would suggest that the musicologist (who wrote a well-known biography of J. S. Bach, translated into English) would be rather better-known than his father, who wrote hymns, popular in Germany in the mid-19th century but probably not in the English-speaking world. MinorProphet (talk) 14:27, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Controlling rearrangement of paragraphs on mobile

At Roman numerals there's a table immediately following the first paragraph that logically flows from it and should really be presented immediately afterwards. Unfortunately the paragraph rearrangement algorithm that applies on the mobile skin moves the paragraph but not the table, thus interposing the image and interrupting the reading flow. Is it possible to force the image to go below the table instead? Obviously one way would be to move the image, but it really should be at the top on any desktop skin. I've tried adding a div around them to force them to be moved together, but this leads to the rearrangement algorithm seeing the div as part of the "front matter" and pushing up the second paragraph instead, resulting in an incorrect order of paragraphs. (You can see my experiment in the page history – I couldn't do it in a sandbox because the algorithm apparently only applies in main space.) Hairy Dude (talk) 13:43, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@Hairy Dude: I don't know all details of the mobile algorithm but I have moved the table introduction out of the opening paragraph to keep it together with the table. Feel free to change it if you find a better solution. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:23, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Jacobolus has reverted me. Half the readers are on the mobile version and most of them on smartphones with narrow screens. If you don't have a smartphone for testing then click "Mobile view" at the bottom and make the window narrow to see how it looks. The Cutty Sark image is between the table description and table so it looks like the description is for the image. My solution isn't ideal but I think it's better than the current situation. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:34, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I've applied the text as a table caption. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:45, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

No, the result of this change is garbage. Can the broken mobile reflow be suppressed somehow? –jacobolus (t) 16:22, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:24, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not trying to be a jerk. But moving an ordinary sentence to be a bolded caption is confusing, incoherent, and ugly. Are there ways of manually adjusting the way mobile reflow works? (For example, by wrapping them in a common element?) Both the sentence and the table are logically part of the same first paragraph of the article, and should be kept together. –jacobolus (t) 16:29, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

The other alternative would be to substantially rewrite the lead section of this article; that might be overall a decent idea anyway. –jacobolus (t) 16:32, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

The mobile feature is described at mw:Reading/Web/Projects/Lead Paragraph Move but it doesn't give details of the algorithm. I don't know a way to display the table before the image if the image comes first in the source. That's why I suggested a solution which displays both the table description and table after the image so they at least stay together. The image could also be moved down in the source but then desktop wouldn't display it at the top right. Or the image could be omitted in mobile by wrapping it in <div class="nomobile">...</div>, but we don't normally hide images in mobile. The image could also be completely removed but I like it in desktop. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:04, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Please no edit warring. We can take our time and come up with a working solution instead of trying to brute force something right now. –jacobolus (t) 17:13, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

1. First revert by jacobolus
2. Second revert by jacobolus
3. Third revert by jacobolus

All in less than two hours. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:21, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

It is expected and ordinary community practice to revert to a stable version of an article pending discussion. Your preferred alternative is harmful to readers and not acceptable. Please discuss instead of trying to force it through by brute force bashing the edit history. –jacobolus (t) 18:26, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Cf. Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. –jacobolus (t) 18:26, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Maybe you should read that before citing it in defence of your hypocritical edit warring? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:43, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

The key part is: "Discuss your bold edit with the person who reverted it. To follow BRD specifically, instead of one of the many alternatives, don't restore your bold edit, don't make a different edit to this part of the page, don't engage in back-and-forth reverting, and don't start any of the larger dispute resolutionprocesses. Talk to that one person until the two of you have reached an agreement." This particular formatting has been on the page for a few months shy of 10 years. Working around buggy mobile reformatting isn't so urgent a problem that we can't take an extra few hours or days to come up with something that flows narratively, remains logically coherent, and isn't distractingly ugly. –jacobolus (t) 18:47, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

No; the key parts include:

• BRD is not a justification for imposing one's own view
• BRD is not a valid excuse for reverting good-faith efforts to improve a page simply because you don't like the changes.
• BRD is never a reason for reverting.
• BRD is not an excuse to revert any change more than once.
• BRD is not mandatory.

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:01, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

It's not about whether I "like" the change. The change is logically incoherent, confusing, and ugly. There is a large space of possible changes to this article, including many which would surely be mutually acceptable to everyone. Insisting that your personal preferred version must be implemented runs entirely contrary to the spirit of collaboration and consensus on which Wikipedia functions, and tying to wikilawyer your way out of addressing the substantive content disagreement is not helping anyone, so please also stop that. –jacobolus (t) 19:15, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

It is you who is wikilawyering; you who is edit warring while telling others not do do so; you who is citing BRD while ignoring what it says; and you don't like the change, however many words you use to say so.

Never have I "insisted that my personal preferred version must be implemented".

WP:TABDD says, quite clearly, "Use short, self-explanatory captions". It is you and you alone who has been removing the caption completely, and you and you alone who has been using derogatory terms to describe others' good-faith attempts to improve the article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:32, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

This misses the purpose of this particular table element. It's not a logically separate and independent "data table" at all. It's just a alternate presentation for a portion of the paragraph which associates a small handful of symbols with their meaning. It's logically part of the paragraph, the same way as a block math formula would be. It does not need any kind of caption, and indeed adding a caption entirely breaks up the reading flow. If you are concerned about associating the previous sentence tightly to the table, a plausible alternative would be to eliminate the table entirely and rewrite the list of symbols and their meanings as a prose sentence. –jacobolus (t) 19:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

The table is a data table, not a layout table. It needs a caption. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:04, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I don't see where in the MOS there is a demand that every table must have a caption (and indeed, many tables across the site do not have captions, which is routinely to their benefit). But if you are going to insist on a caption for some kind of bureaucratic reason, then the table must be eliminated. –jacobolus (t) 20:10, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

"I don't see where in the MOS there is a demand that every table must have a caption—right there in its lede: "Maintain accessibility when creating tables by using ... captions". Below that, there is an entire section, "Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables#Captions and headers", which opens "Table captions ... should be ... used on all data tables".

"if you are going to insist on a caption for some kind of bureaucratic reason", I'm not, but there you go, assuming bad faith again.

"then the table must be eliminated"—non sequitur. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:36, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I rewrote the paragraph without the table. –jacobolus (t) 20:44, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer though. It seems that the concern is accessibility for screen readers. For a table such as this one, if it were to stay, we could use the {{Screen reader-only}} template to add a screen-reader specific "caption" to satisfy accessibility concerns. I'll keep that in mind for other similar tables where a visible caption is inappropriate. –jacobolus (t) 21:23, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

"This template should only be used to hide text from sighted readers when that text substantially duplicates adjacent text that is visible." Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:33, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Yes, exactly. So in the cases (routine in mathematical articles) where a visible caption would add distracting redundant clutter for no benefit, we can still satisfy the accessibility requirement to include a caption because screen readers need it for navigation. That's a helpful feature to know about.

(Unfortunately our mathematical articles are almost entirely inaccessible to screen readers because the screen readers themselves have no facilities for clearly reading mathematical notation. But we can still do our best.) –jacobolus (t) 21:39, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

As an aside, in case it was unclear: I'm sure all changes were made in good faith. The way the mobile site moves paragraphs around clearly causes a problem in this case, and some kind of fix is needed. Just not this fix.

It's an ordinary and expected part of Wikipedia to make good-faith changes, have them undone by good-faith reverts, and then follow up with discussion seeking consensus. Just because changes were made in good faith does not mean they must stay, if they make an article worse. –jacobolus (t) 19:47, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Looks like the plot has been lost a bit in all the excitement. We shouldn't be rewriting or restructuring articles to fit a rubbish device design. Paragraphs are used to group sentences together into a coherent unit, not to move text around an image. Captions are used to annototate tables and images, not to force a piece of article text to appear in a particular place. Bazza 7 (talk) 19:03, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I've just glanced at that article and there is much more wrong with its presentation regardless of the device problems. MOS:NOBOLD, overdetailed MOS:LEAD, MOS:SANDWICH for starters. Bazza 7 (talk) 19:09, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Agreed, this article is mediocre throughout, and could use dramatic amounts of attention and work. (Including rewriting the lead section, which could plausibly eliminate or move this table.) If anyone is interested on collaborating on more substantial fixes, I'm happy to engage on the talk page. –jacobolus (t) 19:20, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

(outdent) It might help to prevent edit warring to test changes in a sandbox. Unfortunately reflow apparently only applies in article namespace. Is is possible to force reflow on any page? If not, maybe that's a feature to request from the mobile devs. Hairy Dude (talk) 11:39, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Just to demo my favourite template, {{outdent}}. MinorProphet (talk) 14:42, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Driving Tester

Hello. I made an enquiry re the first Driving Tester in Ireland and the responce was you had no info. My name is Marie Byrne and I am that person. I was employed by the Dept of Environment in the early 1990 and I remained the only Female for 10 years. I would like to be registered on your website fore future clarification as i am proud that i achieved this status. ~2026-17585-57 (talk) 08:02, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Did they do driving tests before 1990? - Walter Who mentioned Pearl Harbour? Ego 08:18, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Presumably the OP means first female driving tester. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:39, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Well.... "In 1979 over 60,000 drivers were given an amnesty as they were granted a full driving licence without sitting a driving test due to the large backlog of driving test applicants at that time." MinorProphet (talk) 15:15, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Before that can be stated in any Wikipedia article, we would need a reliable source confirming what you say. Do you know of one? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:40, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Wikipedia is not a place to record or honour your achievements for posterity.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source. Athanelar (talk) 15:43, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Congratulations, Marie. Well, the Dublin Evening Herald of 8 October 1990, p. 3 has this article: "meet ireland's first woman driving tester" (via British Newspaper Archive) but although I'm logged in with WP:WPLIB I don't seem to be able to access it. Looks good enough to me. MinorProphet (talk) 15:15, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

According to their page on 'free access,' you need to be registered and signed in to their site to get the free access via TWL; TWL just gives your account there unlimited articles to read. Athanelar (talk) 15:25, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Easiest way to list articles only differing by capitalization?

• Excluding* redirects, is there an easy way to find all articles in mainspace (and I guess separately in templatespace and categoryspace) that differ only by capitalization? This would mean that for example Orange bean and Orange Bean (or even perhaps OranGe Bean) are full articles. I know that the first letter can't be what's different since they are all capitalized. I'm *guessing* this could be done with a query to get all of the ones that are identical ones when made into all capital letters and then counted to be greater than one, but I don't know what would be done to ignore redirects.Naraht (talk) 14:51, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Try {{intitle}}, eg All pages with titles containing black bean. Sorry, you're looking for all articles. MinorProphet (talk) 15:28, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

You might get some suggestions by asking at WP:Request a query. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:33, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Question about copyright of genealogy

(if this belongs somewhere please let me know!)

I've been working on some Japanese genealogies and they're complicated to the point that I think we need one verifiable genealogy, rather than cobbling together sources (because there are many many conflicting views). Because of this, I want to use the genealogy published by the Imperial Household Agency for the page Family tree of Japanese monarchs to show what the imperial family claims (essentially replacing what's in that article with what's in the PDF). Would recreating this on Wikipedia run into copyright issues? Erynamrod (talk) 20:59, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

I'm responding here basically because no one else has. In the *United States*, all documents produced by the US government and its agencies are not under copyright. I believe the Imperial Household Agency would count as an agency of the Japanese Government. But I don't know the rules on Japan. The other question that I have is that the Imperial Household Agency would, I believe, have a vested interest (if not today, than 100 years ago) in showing that the Emperor's line goes back as far as possible.Naraht (talk) 15:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Facts (or claimed facts) are not in themselves copyrightable, but a particular exact written description, presentation or graphical depiction of them likely is. I believe you could 'use' the genealogy safely provided that you redrew it in your own 'style', or coded it using Wiki markup. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 18:12, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Wanna Translate Need help

Hey i am new to wikipedia , i want to contribute in translating page into my mother tongue. Can anyone provide me guide that explains how can i start translating Alimran Rubayet-Amin (talk) 17:55, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Alimran Rubayet-Amin.

Does WP:Translate us help? ColinFine (talk) 18:07, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion Alimran Rubayet-Amin (talk) 18:16, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Unable to collapse lists in edit window (mobile view)

Greetings. I normally edit in mobile view (using Wikipedia:Source editor) and when I do so, one or more of the collapsible lists at the bottom of the page (Wikidata entities, hidden categories, etc.) are expanded with no way to collapse them (see adjacent screenshot from editing the page Red fox). I don't have the same problem when editing in desktop view. I checked my preferences page but couldn't find any obvious way to permanently collapse these lists. What should I do? ~Sangdeboeuf (talk) 16:11, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

@Sangdeboeuf: It works for me on an iPhone. Your screenshot includes Parser profiling data so it must be a preview. Does it also happen before previewing? Does it happen in safemode (don't click preview, it removes safemode). Your screenshot is missing the triangle at Wikidata entities but does it work to click there anyway? By the way, your screenshot may be from a mobile device but it's not mobile view. "Mobile view" or "Desktop view" is an option at the bottom of pages. Devices pick one of them by default. The skin setting at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering only affects Desktop view. Mobile view is like a skin by itself. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:19, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I edit using Android. The problem is in the editing preview, where the large number of list entries makes scrolling down to the edit window more challenging. Tapping on the heading "Wikidata entities used in this page" does nothing, but I can expand and collapse the other lists just fine. ~Sangdeboeuf (talk) 17:10, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

@Sangdeboeuf: Does it work if you log out? Does it work if you enable "Always enable safe mode" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? Ignore that some things will look different. You can disable it again after testing. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:55, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Just tested both options, and there was no change. The problem only occurs after selecting "mobile view" while the editing window is already open in preview mode (see screenshot). ~Sangdeboeuf (talk) 14:20, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

@Sangdeboeuf: I can reproduce it now: Start in desktop view on Red fox, click "Edit", click "Show preview", and THEN click "Mobile view" when the url is https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_fox&action=submit. Please say from the start how to reproduce a problem another time. You would never reach such a url from the mobile site as far as I know and action=submit indicates something was submitted in the browser to get here. When I then click "Mobile view" I get a warning that entered information may not be saved. I'm not surprised something breaks with this unusual sequence. The mobile site has its own way to make edits and previews with different url's. There has probably been limited testing of how mobile responds to such a url and the problem seems minor when the page does work. I don't know a solution other than to not do this unless you accept the consequences. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:44, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

The mobile site is useless for anything more than very basic editing, which is why I am forced to employ this unusual sequence, as you call it. I used to edit in desktop view even on a mobile device, but at some point the text became too small to edit comfortably. ~Sangdeboeuf (talk) 20:40, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

@Sangdeboeuf: You could make a Phabricator request but they may decline to spend time on it when it does work and isn't a normal way to edit. Remember steps to reproduce if you make it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:51, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Can I get a copy of a paywalled journal article?

Hey. There used to be a place where you could request a copy of a paywalled journal article. Is that still a thing? Anthonyhcole (talk) 05:16, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

WP:RX is probably what you're looking for -- nil ^nz 05:18, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you. Anthonyhcole (talk) 04:50, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

You are also eligible for The Wikipedia Library, which may allow you to access what you want. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:52, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, Andy. I don't need it just now but will give it a go when I do. Anthonyhcole (talk) 04:51, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Merging

Hello, I want to merge Rohanlal Chaturvedi and Rohanlal, as it covers the same topic. Versions111 (talk • contribs) 10:38, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

As the latter was only created today, I have redirected it to the previously-existing article, and merged the contents. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:50, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Ref error in List of shipwrecks in 1791

There is a ref error in the List of shipwrecks in 1791. Testing the reference independent of the list does not produce the error. I've checked every instance of the use of that ref to ensure that all links in those ship entries are correct, which they seem to be. I'm perplexed as to the cause. Mjroots (talk) 10:26, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

The issue seems to be in the reference named "ref name=NLL230991". For whatever reason, the reflist thinks there's an invalid parameter named "list" being called when this reference is defined; but the cite journal template there doesn't have any such parameter in it, so I have no idea where that's coming from. Athanelar (talk) 10:40, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Fixed here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:09, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

References

Maplink is not working on Channel Tunnel article

The maplink display in the infobox of Channel Tunnel is just displaying a blank map. I believe it used to work correctly, focussed on the tunnel which was red line. I can't see any relevant recent edits on Channel Tunnel or Channel Tunnel (Q10257). The OpenStreetMap relation ID on Wikidata (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2147197) also seems to be okay. I'm stumped. Commander Keane (talk) 00:33, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

If you zoom out of that map, you will see it is centred off West Africa - presumably at Null Island. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:12, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Some module stopped to understand coordinates...? --CiaPan (talk) 12:07, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

SpongeBob movie

Good afternoon. On the page for the first SpongeBob movie (the section Development), the quote from Stephen Hillenburg is slightly cut off on mobile. Nothing mayor, but still noticeable. I already asked this on the article's talk page, but nobody answered. ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 16:03, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-24671-3: Fixed by using {{Quote box}} instead of a bunch of custom code. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:28, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

A belated thanks to you! Nobody replying to me on the talk page is the reason i don't trust those pages. ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 18:37, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

It’s not you can’t trust the,, it’s just someone has to go the talk page and look for the respective message, many talk page messages get ignored if no one sees them The Grenadian Historian (Aka. Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a) (talk) 13:43, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Ambiguous titles

Hi, I would like to point out a few ambiguous titles: Deep Purple (album) vs Deep Purple (Sun Ra album), Bob Williams (coach) vs Bob Williams (American football coach), and Bobby Williams vs Bobby Williams (defensive back). Could someone please move them to more precise and consistent titles? ~2026-18020-55 (talk) 08:50, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Issues with a title should first be raised on the article talk page of the article at issue, to generate a consensus(or see if there is an existing consensus). Articles that are titled without a disambiguator(like Williams) are usually so because the community believes most people are more likely to be looking for that topic than other articles about other topics with the same title. 331dot (talk) 08:57, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

For example, Michael Jackson goes to the article about the deceased singer and not to the numerous others named Michael or Mike Jackson. 331dot (talk) 08:58, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

But in this case I don't see a primary topic. And, what about Bob Williams (coach) / Bob Williams (American football coach) and Deep Purple (album) / Deep Purple (Sun Ra album)? ~2026-18020-55 (talk) 09:00, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

If you don't see it as the primary topic, you need to explain that on the article talk page and build a consensus. Note that your view as to what is the primary topic may not be the way others view it, which is why a consensus is needed. The same applies to the other examples that you mention(they are just slightly narrower topics, coaches in the case of Williams). 331dot (talk) 09:07, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Also, @~2026-18020-55 given that these talk pages are not likely to be frequented, you should notify relevant WikiProjects like WP:WikiProject Music and WP:WikiProject Sports so that you can get more eyes on the discussion. Athanelar (talk) 09:59, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Re Deep Purple, the current consensus is that we don't disambiguate albums/songs against other albums/songs that don't have standalone articles. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:08, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Filed Talk:Bob Williams (coach)#Requested move 23 March 2026 for Bob Williams since things are fundamentally broken in multiple ways there. I'll let someone else handle the primary topic dispute if they wish to do so; it seems plausibly justified to me. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:12, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Broken archive link

On the article Puerto Leguízamo, there's an external link to an archive.org snapshot dated 2008, but clicking on it sends you to the Wayback Machine's homepage, without any error. I checked later archives of the specific site but don't see anything related to what the link is labeled as on any later captures, and clicking the 2008 snapshot in question also kicks you back to the homepage. Would it be better to just remove the archive link? Cheers! Departure– (talk) 17:18, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

That link was converted to an archive snapshot link at this edit by InternetArchiveBot (which you would expect to know better...). You might ask the bot operator why the bot chose the snapshot that it did. I picked the earliest snapshot from the 2011 wayback machine calendar and after a couple of redirects got to this snapshot. You might use that. Or not.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:49, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Aviation safety

Special:Diff/1344459616

I've had a bot flag my edit with referencing edits, and I can't find what the problem is and how to fix it. Can somebody tell me how to fix this/find out what the problem is?

Thanks, Skyeteam (talk) 12:13, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Reference 73; add the required source title.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:55, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I just deleted the citation I added as I couldn't get it to work out. :( Skyeteam (talk) 16:29, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

@Skyeteam: Why? The error had been fixed by another editor. Perhaps you should self-revert?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:43, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Done. Skyeteam (talk) 17:55, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Captcha

I cannot edit my sandbox and I keep having to fill out the Captcha form and it just refreshes and has me do it again and again endlessly JDub1609 (talk) 14:21, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @JDub1609. For questions about the user interface like this, WP:VPT is a better place to ask. ColinFine (talk) 16:06, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

@JDub1609 You are not yet WP:autoconfirmed as you have so far made only 6 edits and 10 are required for that. The captcha problem should disappear once you have made a few more simple edits, for example as suggested on your hompage. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:28, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Data entry task: wolf place-names

I have a data entry task for the willing. c:Data:Wolf place-names in the UK.map (JSON format) uses the Aybes (1995) source listed at the bottom, the source is available on The Wikipedia Library. I have entered the coordinates and marker descriptions, however the JSON title fields (location names) need to be populated. I have used OCR, complete with typos, to scan the source; User:Commander Keane/Wolf OCR. You basically have to look at the table in the source and type the title into the JSON. You can copy/paste from the OCR page to speed it up, but watch for OCR typos. I have completed the sibling map c:Data:Wolf_place-names_in_Ireland.map, it is not too taxing once you get going. Some of the places have (lost) appended, we may as well include that.

Example workflow

1. Find the Berkshire section in Table 2, p.206 in the source
2. In that table section, find the line with Grid Reference SU 6368 and get the name from the Place-name column. In this case it is La Wlfhull (lost), adjusted from my OCR.
3. In c:Data:Wolf place-names in the UK.map, find "description": "Berkshire, grid reference: SU 6368"
4. Just above, edit and place La Wlfhull (lost) in the title field.

Let me know if there are any questions. This task completes a request from a while ago on the Graphics Lab, I have completed the sibling map c:Data:Wolf place-names in Ireland.map (the titles show up when you click on markers). Commander Keane (talk) 06:21, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Likely sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry

currently ongoing, and confirmed vandalism

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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The accounts include older Wikipedia accounts with very few activities until recently and newer accounts created days ago. The accounts Dangermanmeetz and Idenze are examples of the likely old meatpuppet accouts making ai generated and original research articles, with "sources" not stating what is said, check it out , the "ichafu" and "Akwa ocha" articles, one which was already spotted as a LLM text hallucination reproduction.

Also another one, who is new is vandalised the disambiguation page of "Bole" to make it into a new article page of their choosing, which I reversed. An account days ago which vandalised the shekere page which then had just joined an hour ago. There have been a couple other accounts popping up vandalising.

But I will focus on these two older accounts, which even uploaded an art image from "1822" which is their own work and has n source stating it. The level of blatant disruption and commitment to original research is astonishing and very troll like. I don't know where to start with the reporting and from which angles, so I want to draw eyes of more experienced Wikipedians to these pages : @Dangermanmeetz @Idenze, Ichafu (headdress), Akwa Ocha. Idenze is also adding images with no copyright approval that are not free use and tagging them with whatever he/she likes.

Also check out the recent page history for Gele (headdress), Akwete, shekere, ogiri,ogbono soup, Bole (disambiguation)...more might be currently be getting vandalised by similar agents. Dolpina (talk) 12:07, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

The pages I worked on, which are Ichafu (headdress), Akwa Ocha had all necessary information added. It is a cultural heritage oof an ethnicity of over 40 million people. Ichafu, meaning head scarf in Igbo, while Akwa Ocha, a local textile is the tradtional cloth of Anioma, the Western Igbo people of Nigeria.

If there's any misinformation you see, address it as this community is meant to do. There was no vandalisation from my account as I made sure to backup every claim accoordingly. Idenze (talk) 12:22, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a dictionary and it doesn't give definitions for words...thats btw, your content is ai generated and is full of original research with your claims. Dolpina (talk) 12:26, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

My contents are not full of AI as I spent time to research, and wrote it accordingly. I still have the original file of this two content as it was written in 2024, and 2025 respectively. Also, if you had checked my references, you would see that dictionaries were cited on every non English words there. Idenze (talk) 12:31, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

We did not use any LLM, and in any case, I guess we can rewrite it to seem less “robotic”. We also added all necessary information needed to back up out edits (which are still drafts btw- is she seriously reporting drafts? Lol). But if any mod here wants to help in this situation, it would be much appreciated, and Dolpina should face serious consequences of her claim of us being sock-puppets, she’s notoriously an ethnic warrior on here anyway Dangermanmeetz (talk) 13:08, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Those are articles not drafts, its written there : article. "Ichafu" asides from the LLM text and original research means scarf, a loan word from chiffon. Wikipedia is not a page for definitions in your languages if not the entries will be a lot. Read Wikipedia rules. Dolpina (talk) 13:22, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

There’s no proof of LLM,

1. You would need to definitively prove that claim, and
2. Claims of LLM happen all the time regardless of their use, I’ve seen people including me have that tagged on our pages during article approving motions, it’s not uncommon.
3. No Ichafu does NOT mean scarf, we have proof and documentation of it being head-gear or wear.
4. Also to the rest of your post, you blatantly LIED, that I edited other pages, which I had no association with, and in regards to “ogiri”, we have sources denoting it to Igbo origin, and your OWN source does not denote it to Yoruba origin, so again you are an ethnic warrior, which is a harmful thing to have on this site, and should be dealt with severely, we have no room for that on Wikipedia. Dangermanmeetz (talk) 13:29, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Also for the moderators who will be involved, this is not the first time of this Dolpina account engaging in ethnic tribalism in the Nigerian context on Wikipedia, this has been a reoccuring behaviour for this account, I having recently had to deal with them claiming that the Igbo attire Akwete, was of “yoruba origin”, we also had to involve moderators for that before it was resolved, having to correct blatant misinformation, also in regards to the ogiri page, so this continuous, destructive behaviour. Dangermanmeetz (talk) 13:37, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

So, in this report, these are the things you are accusing of that aren't true:

1. First of all, None of has touched the Gele (headdress), shekere, ogbono soup, Bole page, as you are stating, so she is lying.
2. The ogiri page that you keep reverting to the source on there doesn't claim that ogiri belongs only to the Yoruba people; that specific source also credits the Igbo people with ogiri. So, you are actually being disingenuous or not being honest regarding the ogiri. There is nowhere in the first source that states that ogiri originates from the Yoruba people. It is the most blatant misinformation so far in this 21st century.
3. Alsoo, Yoruba dictionary is not enough to claim that ogiri belongs to only one ethnicity, as Igbo dictionaries also credit the Igbo people with ogiri, and Igbo, Edo, Igala, Yoruba, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Isoko, and Etsako share the same linguistic ancestry, and shares words together. For exxample, in Igbo, stone or rock is "okwute/okute," while in Yoruba, it is "okuta." This is same way goat is "ewu" in Igbo, while it is "ewure" in Yoruba. Does that mean goat and rock originated from Yoruba? No. So you are terribly biased and blinded by your ethnic bigotry and supremacy mindset. Idenze (talk) 13:29, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Disruptive User- Repeat Offenses

User:Dolpina continues to delete verifiable citation and information and falsely claim that the Igbo headwear Ichafu is of yoruba origin, this is not the first time this user has continuously engaged in disruptive edits of ethnic origins, and has on a number of occasions has been warned by moderators to cease this behaviour, they’ve previously done it with the akwete page where a moderator had to be involved, as has engaged in edit warring on the ogiri page, which is an African seed/food ingredient, not of any ethnic origins, but uses a general parlance for the term in the same vein as ogbono soup, these are 3 different offenses, they have also falsely claimed users such as myself as sock puppeting and editing pages which I had no part in. A moderator’s input would be much appreciated. Dangermanmeetz (talk) 16:03, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Dangermanmeetz, @Dolpina , @Idenze, and anybody else involved in this.

To the extent that this is a content dispute, resolve it following the procedures in dispute resolution.

If there are "chronic, intractable behavioral problems" involved, take them to WP:ANI (but make sure you read the material at the head of that very carefully, and beware of boomerangs).

We don't want to see the kind of squabbling in #Likely sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry above here, thank you.

(And this is not about who is right or wrong. It is about being part of a cooperative working environment). ColinFine (talk) 16:15, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

No worries and thanks for the link. Dangermanmeetz (talk) 16:45, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

What is "abstract"?

In the page List of Wikipedias/sortable there is "abstract" Wikipedia. What language is this? ~2026-18281-87 (talk) 11:56, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

See Abstract Wikipedia. The goal is/(was?) to create a language-independent WikiData-like project. Athanelar (talk) 12:01, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-18281-87: See also meta:Abstract Wikipedia. It's at https://abstract.wikipedia.org so normally our software would produce a link to it with the code [[:abstract:]] but it just produces abstract: so apparently the abstract prefix hasn't been implemented yet. meta:List of Wikipedias/sortable gets the "abstract" name from somewhere and makes failed attempts to produce links. I know two working prefixes for other "Wikipedias" which aren't for a language: testwiki: and test2wiki:. They are omitted in meta:List of Wikipedias/sortable. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:17, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

abstract was added to meta:Interwiki map/list March 20. meta:Interwiki map says: Last known interwiki cache update: March 6, 2026. The prefix should work after the next cache update. https://sal.toolforge.org/production?p=0&q=interwiki shows around one update per month but it varies a little. I remember Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 82#On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences links where an update was rushed after a widely used interwiki prefix was broken. abstract just hasn't been added yet so it didn't "break" and probably has very few attempted uses. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:36, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Help with the insource thingy

Ok, I was using the “insource:” thing for some cleanup stuff.

It turns out that 90% (possibly more) of the mistakes (i.e. violations of MOS:EUPH, innacurate) were in references.

Any way to filter out those mistakes in references, because it's a pain to filter them out? SomnambulantFish _talk ∫ ^contribs 16:57, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

@SomnambulantFish You don't give enough context to give a detailed response but if you look at Help:Searching#Search_string_syntax, you'll see that "NOT" operators can be added to an insource search. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:34, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

@SomnambulantFish: This tries to find "passed away" outside references by eliminating hits where it's between <ref and the next <: "passed away" -insource:/\<ref[^\<]*passed away/. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:12, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Request to move user page to Draft space

Hello! I am a new user (SilverZolt). I have a completed article at User:SilverZolt that I've submitted for review, but I'm not yet autoconfirmed so I can't move it to the Draft space. Could someone please move it to Draft:Sivadasan A. K. for me? Thank you! SilverZolt (talk) 08:38, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

It's been done- but you will need to disclose your connection to this man, as you took a professional looking image of him where he posed for you. See WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 08:51, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

I've declined the draft, please see it, and your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 08:52, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Connecting Wikidata software version strings to Wikipedia software infoboxes

I was trying to link the version information in Q113289177 to the infobox software template in the HiGHS optimization solver article. Some information has transferred, namely repo and website. But not the latest release version. I tried mapping this, without success, using: {{wikidata|property|reference|edit|Q28865|P548=Q113289177|P348}} and {{wikidata|property|preferred|references|edit|Q8038|P348|P548=Q113289177}}. Any help very welcome. The fallback is, of course, to continue with manual updating of the version string within the Wikipedia EN article. But that is not especially elegant. TIA. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 15:09, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, or have misunderstood the question, but am I right in assuming you are trying to automatically automate an update to a Wikipedia infobox from a Wikidata entry? If so, since Wikidata is clearly not WP:RS, this is contrary to policy, and any updates would need to be done manually, after verification of the source. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:21, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

@AndyTheGrump: You're not wrong! But I understand the GIMP software does exactly what I am suggesting — and is used in examples describing this feature. Data scientists like to update in one place and then propagate. But equally, Wikipedia might prefer more humans‑in‑the‑loop. The ultimate sources are the release tags used in online software repos — GitHub in this case. Thanks for responding. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 15:36, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

I learned yesterday that Wikidata entries have an optional field that lets you cite a reliable source. I learned this after being frustrated about not being able to edit fields in an infobox on the Croatian Wikipedia, and then was told the infobox data is being pulled from Wikidata, and sure enough the birthdate of the article subject in Wikidata had a source citation on it, but that citation doesn't appear in the infobox. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 15:41, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

On the English-language Wikipedia at least, the update needs both verification and citation. No idea as to what the Croatian one expects. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:13, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

My mistake, it was Bulgarian. Anyway, the Wikidata doesn't seem to be language specific, in this case d:Q61139728. The data itself is in Bulgarian, but any other languages can be added in that entry, and it appears that citations are optional, but maybe that depends on the data item. When I deleted the birth date due to a retraction by the cited source, it wouldn't let me delete the citation first, so I had to delete the whole birthdate entry. I added the only citation in there, the place of birth. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 18:34, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

You should not delete the date from Wikidata in that case, but mark it as deprecated. Which item was it on? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:20, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

I saw no way to mark it as deprecated, so I removed it. It's the item I linked in my previous comment. The VRT customer worked with the online sources reporting the birthdate so that the birthdate was removed in all of them, although it can still be found in archived versions of the sources. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 23:19, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

To note that the software version information is often well documented, provided by responsible maintainers, and accompanied by extensive release notes. An example. In addition, software product quality is now increasingly being regulated by legislation like the Cyber Resilience Act. Release notes are clearly primary sources but not remotely unreliable in the context of, say, the HiGHS solver. Best, RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 23:25, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Release notes may well be reliable, but Wikidata isn't, per core Wikipedia policy. If people really want latest version information in an infobox, it must be cited to a reliable source, though frankly I can't see a great deal of point to this, since anyone wishing to know such details would be better off checking the source anyway - it is more likely to be up to date. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:33, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Agreed! In this case, a link to the GitHub Releases page could be better, viz: release details. Or perhaps even a Wikipedia template that periodically interrogates that latest release info via a GitHub API. I don't like the idea of potentially stale information being displayed so prominently. Thanks for your comments. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 08:50, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

See d:Help:Deprecation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:27, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, sensible and useful to know. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 10:09, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Editing in Wikipedia

How to edit in WikiPedia? Alam8733321 (talk) 03:01, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Help:Editing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:18, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

You can click the [edit] button at each section, or click the pencil icon (or Edit) at the top of the page Versions111 (talk • contribs) 10:44, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Distinguished Flying Cross missing a recipient

Stanley P. Goldstein received the Distinguihed Flying Crosson March 24, 1944, as a lead navigator for hundreds of US bombers in WWII, Godbout Crew, flying out of Alconbury, UK. This is attested to in a UK website dedicated to the USAAF bombing raid teams. David Attwood ~2026-18196-11 (talk) 21:49, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-18196-11: Category:Recipients of the Distinguished Flying Cross (United States) is only for people with Wikipedia biographies and Distinguished Flying Cross (United States)#Notable recipients of the DFC is a selection of them. Our article Stanley P. Goldstein is about a man born in 1934 so it cannot be him. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:08, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi 18196,

On Wikipedia, if you notice there's some missing information on an article, the best thing you can do is edit the article yourself to add it. The second best thing you can do is bring it up at the article's talk page.

However, as PrimeHunter just pointed out above me, there's a chance that adding Stanley P. Goldstein might not be warranted. MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 22:12, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

According to one forum (and other more reliable sources imply about the same figure), over 126,000 DFCs were awarded by the US in World War II, which explains why that alone is not enough to make a person notable. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:07, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

So I can't post?

Haha, Wikimedia is having maintainence so I won't be able to post this topic! MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 15:05, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

What. MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 15:06, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

They're usually pretty fast lol Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 15:06, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

lmao MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 15:09, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Commutative diagrans

Are there any plans to support commutative diagramss in wikitext? In native LaTeX it's fairly easy using, e.g., tikz, diagxy. I know that I can import an image, but that leaves something that's not editabl; I want to expose the source to future editors. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 15:30, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Is there a way to see smaller rangeblocks within a larger range?

What the title says. Is there any way to do this? Cutlass^Ciera 15:42, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Context please. IP ranges? Unicode ranges? —Antonissimo (talk) 20:51, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

IP ranges, specifically IPv6. Thanks, Cutlass^Ciera 15:32, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Issue creating an account

Hi, currently I am experiencing some issues creating a Wikipedia account. The information I put in seemed correct, but for some reason it won't let me create the account, and I need it for my school assignment. So, if there is any chance u could provide some help with that, it would be much appreciated. ~2026-18670-11 (talk) 22:05, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Does an error message appear? 331dot (talk) 22:07, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Electronic waste

Special:Diff/1344948129

I added the source, but how should I fix it because I did an automatic citation? Please further explain how to fix it.

Thanks, Leothelion21 (talk) 13:32, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Never, never, trust anything 'automatic' at en.wiki. The citation you added has |date=2021-12 which is an ISO 8601 formatted date. But, en.wiki only supports the YYYY-MM-DD ISO 8601 date format; not appropriate for this reference. To fix, use a date format accepted at en.wiki; see MOS:DATESNO.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:46, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

That's because anything 'automatic' at en.wiki is fundamentally achieved by actual, hardworking people/coders, WaF, hugely aware of WP's and WM's labrynthine ins and outs, and who constantly/consistently achieve unsung miracles, however seamless the overall impression may appear (which–I suppose–is the whole idea...) MinorProphet (talk) 02:04, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Slope Stability Probability Classification (SSPC)

There should be a page "Slope Stability Probability Classification (SSPC)". This page has been made by me many years ago but seems now to have been removed and replaced by a redirection to a page called "Slope Stability Analyses". The "Slope Stability Probability Classification (SSPC)" is a slope design system used throughout the world. The replacement page "Slope Stability Analyses" may be part/seems to be part of a book, is incomplete and certainty does not replace the page "Slope Stability Probability Classification (SSPC)". I wonder who did this and why. Please can you restore the original page "Slope Stability Probability Classification (SSPC)" and remove or change the redirections where appropriate. Robert Hack (talk) 19:31, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Slope stability probability classification was turned into a redirect back in 2019, seemingly unilaterally as I can't see any discussion in its talk page. The last revision of the page with any text on it was here. If you want to restore it you're entirely free to do so. Athanelar (talk) 20:03, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

I can see no reason why we would need to have two articles on essentially the same subject - we are supposed to be providing a summary of topics, not exhaustive detail on every subset of it. And I'd assume this was the reason the redirect was created. If the more general article doesn't cover a specific subset (a particular method - i.e. SSPC) properly, the answer is to update the general article to correct this.

incidentally, I note that you are the author of a couple of the sources cited in the SSPC article. This isn't generally a particular issue where the author has established subject-matter expertise, but you should probably read WP:SELFCITE. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:07, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

@Robert Hack: The former content of "Slope Stability Probability Classification" was not deleted but moved to a section of Slope stability analysis. However, somebody later moved it to Slope stability#Probability classification without updating the redirect at Slope Stability Probability Classification. I have done this now. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:35, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

@Robert Hack: unfortunately, unilatetal redirection of aricles is a systemic issue on Wikipedia. Per summary style, it does make sense to mention the topic at Slope stability and if content/sources demand it, a standalone article may be needed. I see this has been done, poorly, for example with with Slope mass rating. There is also textbook inclusion potential with our sister project Wikibooks. Our aim is a compendium of all human knowledge, but it is a work in progress. Commander Keane (talk) 02:48, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Giovanni Battista de Rossi

Giovanni Battista de Rossi and Giovanni Battista de' Rossi seem ambiguous with each other. Should they be moved to disambiguated titles? ~2026-18738-31 (talk) 02:51, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

You're right, but it's a tough one to disambiguate. I'm not sure I see a clear primary topic here. Athanelar (talk) 03:02, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I believe there is no primary topic for Giovanni Battista de Rossi and Giovanni Battista de' Rossi. They could be moved to Giovanni Battista de Rossi (archaeologist) and Giovanni Battista de' Rossi (priest), with a disambiguation page that would also include San Giovanni Battista de Rossi, Rome and Giovanni Battista Rossi. ~2026-18683-47 (talk) 03:07, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Government type in infoboxes

Is there some sort of hidden consensus about the structure of the government type in infoboxes?

Whenever you go to any sort of country's infobox, you are guaranteed to see on the government_type = :

• unitary? federal?
• presidential? semi-presidential? or parliamentary?
• republic? monarchy?

It's almost as some sort of unwritten rule that I can't see for people to do this, so is it possible for someone to give me a link that's responsible for doing this?

GuesanLoyalist (talk) 00:00, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

I went looking for a talk page consensus and all I found was this section on VPI in December where you suggest many articles don't follow this format and that you think it should be mandatory for them to do so, and people disagreed with that. Are you asking if consensus changed in the past three months? I'm confused. - Purplewowies (talk) 08:03, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

I was asking for some sort of community consensus that made the government_type = go in the structure that I have mentioned about before. Like what I mean is that:

why does every single page always follow that structure in the type of government?

Sorry for not explaining it before clearly, but I hope you do by now GuesanLoyalist (talk) 08:31, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Maybe because that's what made sense to people writing the infoboxes, @GuesanLoyalist? (Except when it didn't).

If you think about it, there are probably lots of examples of a practical consensus across Wikipedia, that has never been specifically discussed.

And of course there are lots of cases where some people desperately want consistency across the project, but have not managed to enrol enough support to get anything tied down or consistently applied. That's the nature of a volunteer project without managers. ColinFine (talk) 09:27, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

So let's say that I do want to make this unwritten rule to be instead a written rule, would it be ok for me to request an RfC for this? GuesanLoyalist (talk) 09:29, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Are you a native English speaker?

It's a somewhat well known phenomena that native English speakers have a sort of 'intuitive' understanding of what order adjectives should go in. For example, "big, brown, hairy dog" sounds a lot more intuitive than "hairy, brown, big dog." "Sharp, flat-sided, metallic cube" sounds more intuitice than "flat-sided, metallic, sharp cube."

I would imagine part of that is a factor here. "Unitary parliamentary monarchy" certainly sounds more intuitively pleasing to my ear than "Parliamentary unitary monarchy". Athanelar (talk) 12:53, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Adjective order lists the general order, although the list doesn't seem to apply to descriptions of governments. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 18:23, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

That does actually make sense though, thanks for having this discussion with me GuesanLoyalist (talk) 21:12, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

There's a rule of thumb that's generally applicable for adjective order in English denoted as OSASCOMP. Opinion-Size-Age-Shape-Color-Origin-Material-Purpose. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 04:15, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

That was my point. That ordering rule doesn't seem to apply to "parliamentary unitary monarchy" versus "unitary parliamentary monarchy". Neither adjective is an opinion, size, age, shape, color, origin, or material, although both may be purposes. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 04:22, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Posting

Where best can I post my profile? ~2026-17033-95 (talk) 16:17, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-17033-95.

The answer to your question is "somewhere that isn't Wikipedia".

Wikipedia does not host profiles. What it hosts is neutrally written encyclopaedia articles based almost entirely on what people wholly unconnected with the subject of the article have chosen to publish about the subject, not on what the subject wants people to know. ColinFine (talk) 16:20, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

if you're talking about a wikipedia user page, you can create your own one under your user with a registered account.  Emily * Emi-Is-Annoyed  _{(message me!)} 12:54, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

@Emi-Is-Annoyed, @~2026-17033-95 Your own Wikipedia "user page" is not a place to post an entire social-media-tyoe profile. It is a place to (optionally) post a short summary about yourself as a Wikipedia editor. See WP:UP. David10244 (talk) 04:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Is that not what a profile is? I feel like any public information about yourself counts as your 'profile'.

 Emily * Emi-Is-Annoyed  _{(message me!)} 09:10, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

@Emi-Is-Annoyed Wikipedia's user pages are not intended to contain an entire social-media-type profile. The term "profile" has several meanings, but what people generally call a "profile" on the 'net is not what Wikipedia intends the user page to contain. David10244 (talk) 05:43, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Facebook, LinkedIn and Wix.com are ideal for this. On Wikipedia, posting autobiographies, CVs etc fails WP:NOTWEBHOST and the material will be removed.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 17:18, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

dhurandhar movie

Why you mentioned dhurandhar is a propoganda movi .it is reality base fictional movie

 Courtesy link: Dhurandhar: The Revenge

it is not propoganda movie ~2026-18353-49 (talk) 16:43, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

It is entirely possible for propaganda to be fictional (most is), and 'reality based'. Having said that how we describe the movie is subject to discussion. I assume from the number of new commentators on this subject that they are being directed here from elsewhere. If so, whoever is doing that should take note that we really don't give a damn what their personal opinions of the movie are, and that we base article content on published reliable sources. Spamming us with irrelevant commentary is a complete waste of time. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:50, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

They're also being directed to WP:RFED in droves because the talk page is semiprotected, so their edit requests end up there. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 18:26, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

The wording in the header to WP:RFED could probably do with clarification as to what an appropriate edit requests requires (citations for sources, policy compliance). I'll have a think about it, and then maybe look at revising it to make it more explicit. I have my doubts that many people actually read the header, but it might reduce the spamming a little. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:35, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Good idea. A while back I substantially changed the header to WP:RFUP, and now we can deny requests for unprotection on the basis of "failure to read instructions".

The RFED header does say "Please make a request only if you have a specific edit that you wish to be performed" but it's buried near the end. It should probably be boldfaced and moved up. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 21:38, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

The article does not describe the film as propaganda in Wikipedia's voice, but quotes four commentators who did so, as well as a larger number who didn't. The article seems to me to be reasonably balanced, and hence displaying a neutral point of view, as Wikipedia policy requires. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 23:50, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

If you look at the history of that article, you'll see that the term "propaganda film" has been added and removed multiple times from the lead sentence. There's a talk page discussion about how to represent this best in the lead, since the propaganda issue receives a fair amount of attention in the article body. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 00:18, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

And it's that discussion - which ~50 different people coming in from offwiki are either oblivious to or refuse to read - that precludes us making ANY unilateral edits about this at the moment. They're basically asking us to dump the active RfC on the matter in the trash. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 01:38, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

It is worth noting that Indian cinema (and the social issues it tends to attract) are hot topics of discussion in India at all times, and the presence of large numbers of Indian TAs engaging in tendentious editing about this matter isn't necessarily evidence of some kind of centralised offwiki canvassing.

Pretty much every Indian even tangentially aware of cinema right now is talking about Dhurandhar, and I assume some significant portion of those are going to its Wikipedia page and getting grumpy about the way we describe it. Athanelar (talk) 12:25, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

True enough, but a some of the TA posts (and possibly some from users with accounts too) definitely suggested canvassing to me. Maybe I'm oversensitive to such issues, and since I don't have the necessary language skills to confirm it one way or another (Canvassing in English, where it involves more than a few individuals, is often easy to find through Google etc), I'll leave that to others, if they think it necessary. In practice though, since almost all the possibly-canvassed TA posts aren't based on policy etc, they shouldn't affect the outcome either way. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:50, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Noting that the WP/Dhurandar films thing has some media coverage, some of it like is even reasonable neutral in tone. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:13, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Diffs for large tables, 'too long to compute your changes'

A wiki article has a table with 300 rows. When an editor makes a change in the table, the diff shows the entire table has changed. I have found conversations and open bug reports on this going back several years, but I'd like to make sure I'm not missing an easy fix.

I copied the table into a personal sandbox article, for testing. One thing I tried was to put each cell on its own line in the wikitext; that did not fix the timeout issue.

I think perhaps the table should be converted to text, but for now I want to make sure I'm not missing some options for fixing the table issue. My sandbox version, with musings and links to other tickets, plus the table in its own section, is here: User:Wikipedian-in-Waiting/300sandbox

Thank you!

Wikipedian-in-Waiting (talk) 04:06, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

@Wikipedian-in-Waiting: Please post a diff with the problem, or steps to reproduce if you cannot save an edit with the problem. I examined every diff in the page history of User:Wikipedian-in-Waiting/300sandbox without seeing a problem. Some of the diffs were huge but that's apparently because you made a huge number of changes. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:17, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Here's one: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Wikipedian-in-Waiting/300sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1344896199

And here's what it looks like for me: https://imgur.com/a/LUJcTZh

Here's what it looks like if I add &diffmode=inline to the end of the URL: https://imgur.com/a/LX4ZzEW

Wikipedian-in-Waiting (talk) 13:12, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@Wikipedian-in-Waiting: Thanks for the screenshot which shows you have selected "Visual". I can reproduce the problem there. It works with "Wikitext", both with and without "Inline". The full warning text is "It took too long to compute your changes, so the description below may not be optimal." The solution for now is to just use the wikitext diff if the visual diff works poorly. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:47, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Funny, I've never even tried the Wikitext and Inline options.... Thank you for the tip! Wikipedian-in-Waiting (talk) 15:05, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Locked out of page

Couldn’t access indigo girls. Locked out. Could access on other devices. Could access everyone else. Said error real fast in red. Worked later. Too strange. Happen to make comments on them in YouTube. Did Wikipedia being shared. How secure? No maintenance involved was able to access everyone else. Wasn’t there page cause I was able to look them up on another device easily. Please explain ~2026-18930-79 (talk) 14:58, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

This might be a technical issue that would be better answered at WP:Village pump (technical), but you would need to provide much more information than the rather vague and terse description above, such as what device you got the error on and what browser/app you were using. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 15:06, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-18930-79: Were you using a Wikipedia app instead of a browser? phab:T421359 reported an app problem earlier today but it should be fixed now. Indigo Girls works for me in the iOS Wikipedia app. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:09, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Possible AI image issue

The infobox photo at Murder of Ruth Waymire clearly appears to have been run through an AI upscale/filter by its Wikipedia uploader, as it doesn’t match the linked source. I’m not sure what to do about this, I don’t have much experience with images. Any ideas? Electricmemory (talk) 01:55, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I would suggest you upload the original version from the linked source and replace the frankly uncanny upscaled one, per WP:AIIMG. Athanelar (talk) 02:51, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@Athanelar looking at the source the up-loader obviously put it through an AI, and didn't note this anywhere. I've got no experience with cropping at uploading photos so I'm not going to fix it myself. Electricmemory (talk) 03:12, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I've PRODed it, can't think of what else to do. Electricmemory (talk) 03:27, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

That was not approrpriate; you were advised that the image could be fixed, and how. I have now done so. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:00, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing I wasn’t aware fixing it in that manner was possible. I assumed it had to be deleted and the new one reuploaded Electricmemory (talk) 15:33, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia Policy on units

Hi,

I recently made a small edit to Bengal fox (based on the cited source at the end of the paragraph on their head, body length, and weight, and I was wondering:

What is the standing policy on units? Do you use the same units as used on the cited source? Do you round units to the nearest whole number as you see fit, or do you show all information as provided in the source?

Any input is appreciated, thank you. KyleTheFox18 (talk) 16:03, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

My understanding is that you should generally use the units appropriate to the "nationality" of the subject of the article, though you can use Template:Convert to include conversions for people more familiar with other units of measurement.

Generally we do round a bit, as discussed at MOS:LARGENUM.

Hope this helps! DonIago (talk) 16:24, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your input! I did use template convert, as it was used previously, but flipped primary units from in to cm, as the source was metric (mm). and as it turns out, the region (india) also uses metric, so everything seems ship-shape!

according to MOS:LARGENUM, my rounding also seems fine. thank you for linking it!

where from can i search the manual of style? i can't find its homepage. KyleTheFox18 (talk) 16:34, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

There's a search box and multiple links at WP:MOS. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:39, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Glad I could help! Happy editing! DonIago (talk) 16:50, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! Happy editing! KyleTheFox18 (talk) 16:56, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I asked a Question at the Teahouse, but Noone is Responding.

Block evasion

What the fuck should I do? ~2026-18843-23 (talk) 17:10, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi anonymous user, the question has been answered at the Teahouse. Wikipedia isn't a live chatroom, so a few minutes' wait time for a response is normal. As 331dot said, you aren't blocked if you are able to post here. Perfect4th (talk) 17:12, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

You asked the question 10 minutes ago with no context as to who was blocked, so you probably won't get a response. ... discospinster _talk 17:12, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

If this is a blocked user, then shouldn't this TA also be blocked with instruction to submit the unblock request on their actual account? ᴸᵃᶠᶠʸTaffer💬(they/she) 17:13, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Anachronist has answered my question by doing just that ᴸᵃᶠᶠʸTaffer💬(they/she) 17:19, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

how to update my email

~2026-19099-75 (talk) 17:19, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-19099-75: If you have an account and know the password then log in and go to Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:02, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

New articles

How do I make an article I'm confused -PIERROTTHEFREAKCIRCUS- (talk) 02:00, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. Athanelar (talk) 02:48, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Seemingly about Draft:Freak Circus Available, which currently cites no sources. -- Hoary (talk) 05:05, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @-PIERROTTHEFREAKCIRCUS-. In addition to the advice you have already been given, please note that Wikipedia may not be used for promotion - i.e., for telling the world about something.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

So unless and until several people wholly unconnected with the game have chosen to write at some length about it, and been published in reliable publications, no Wikipedia article about it will be possible, and I advise you not to spend any further time trying to create one. ColinFine (talk) 18:13, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

How to continue?

Hi, I just translated the German Wikipedia article about Sebastian Klein into English (I originally wrote the German version). The draft is currently saved here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tarat97/Sebastian_Klein_(entrepreneur)&oldid=1345536381

Could you help me with the next steps, or review the draft for submission?

Thank you! Tarat97 (talk) 16:39, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I put a banner at the top of User:Tarat97/Sebastian Klein (entrepreneur) so you can submit it for review.

See also WP:ENTREPRENEUR. Everyone is an entrepreneur, and calling that out in a draft may raise a red flag for reviewers unless being an entrepreneur is extremely well documented. You don't want to synthesize that assertion if sources don't say it. See WP:SYNTHESIS. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 16:57, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Tarat97. We only use a term in parenthesis in a article title if it is necessary to disambiguate. There is currently no existing article called Sebastian Klein, so your draft, if it is accepted, will have that title. ColinFine (talk) 18:27, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Question

Does a category automatically not get deleted if it's marked {{db-catempty}} and not empty? Late Night Coffee (talk) 04:58, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Late Night Coffee, I don't think the process is automatic. I understand that an editor notices a category is empty and tags it for speedy deletion under WP:C1, then seven days later an admin checks the category is still empty and deletes it. So an admin could accidentally delete a non-empty category as empty, but it is unlikely. TSventon (talk) 11:16, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@TSventon, You mean a human does the deletion step? So they'll probably not delete if not empty? Late Night Coffee (talk) 12:40, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Late Night Coffee, that is what I mean. Do you have a particular category in mind? TSventon (talk) 13:13, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Well, it would probably be in a triple-negative category all on it#s own, like Triple Cross or perhaps Double Bind with extra knobs on. I hope that no-one isn't confused. MinorProphet (talk) 20:24, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Requests to me by another editor

User:Raquel Baranow has requested me in their talk page to change some details about one of their images (File:Wound Healing.jpg) that I edited and separately uploaded (File:Wound Healing edit.jpg in the article Wound healing).

While I think their requests have some merit, I do not feel comfortable making the edit for them due to circumstances of their ban, of WP:PROXYING for a banned user, and of some disagreements with the content of their requests.

Please advise. Thank you. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 18:02, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

As a postscript: I did not know they uploaded the original image. If I knew then what I now know about them, I will not have edited the image. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 18:13, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

They are not banned on Commons so it is acceptable for them to ask you to modify the image there, but they should use Commons talk pages to do so. It is, however, unlikely that the extensive commentary they propose is relevant on Commons.

Your change in the article here on Wikipedia was correct and should not be reverted; doubly so at the request of a banned user. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:28, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I stand corrected; they are also indefinitely blocked on Commons. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:22, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I think I will clarify on the usage in Wound healing that it is a hiking wound. I disagree that I "improperly attributed" and "completely obliterated" their image , but I think I will also add their "other versions" request in Commons. Would these be okay to do? LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 14:12, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

What does the fact that it is a hiking wound tell us about wound healing? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:31, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

That is a good point. I thought that different wound types mean different healing outcomes and thus it is useful to know the exact cause/type of the wound, but upon further thinking, the already-used "laceration" is more specific yet more useful. Thank you for the sanity check!

Would the "other versions" proposal be okay to do? I can see both cases for "yes" or "no", and another sanity check would be nice. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 18:44, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

"other versions" would be OK. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:54, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I don't think you need to do anything more than you have done, and would be hesitant to do the "other versions" proposal. The image is attributed as a derivative, the story is completely unnecessary (and is available on the original image so not obliterated), the canyon is irrelevant and should not be displayed on our article. You've done everything correctly. Meadowlark (talk) 22:50, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Incorrect information about Chaudhari

Last names Choudhary Chowdhary Chaudhary is different than CHAUDHARI which is primarily a Maharashtrian name belonging to region Maharashtra - its not bengali name which might be taken after . ~2026-18862-57 (talk) 19:09, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-18862-57 It's not clear to which article you are referring. Please raise this on the talk page of that article, including a reliable source for your assertion. Shantavira|^{feed me} 20:26, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@User:~2026-18862-57 Our article Chowdhury is pretty comprehensive and covers Chaudhari as a surname. Talk:Chowdhury is the place to make any comment. Mike Turnbull (talk) 23:00, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Maintenance tags on Josh Hasty

Hello,

I am writing to request a review of the maintenance templates currently on the Josh Hasty article (specifically the "AI-generated" and "Paid contribution" tags). I am the subject of this article and I am disclosing my Conflict of Interest (COI). I am not editing the page myself to avoid violating community guidelines, but I believe these tags are now outdated. Since the tags were originally placed, several independent editors have significantly rewritten the article, removing the sections that were flagged as problematic. Because the "demands" of the tags appear to have been satisfied by the community’s recent edits, I am requesting that a neutral editor review the current version. If the content now meets Wikipedia’s standards for neutral point of view and human-authored prose, could the tags please be removed? Thank you for your time and assistance.

~2026-19062-49 (talk) 03:47, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Posting an AI generated comment to request that a maintenance tag identifying AI generated content be removed is certainly a choice. Athanelar (talk) 04:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

"Drives on the [left/right]" in Country Articles

Hello!

Not long ago, a standard in every country article's "Quick facts" section, the "Drives on the" entry, was removed.

Do you know why that was?

It was helpful.

I do know there is a good article on this: "Left- and right-hand traffic".

Thank you! Glenn Warren (talk) 05:14, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

It was decided on Infobox country's talk page in March 2025: Template talk:Infobox country/Archive 16#Driver side (Don't edit that page. It's an archive.) Essentially, it wasn't considered an important enough fact for the infobox. - Purplewowies (talk) 05:58, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Nobody answering my discussion

There are two files that are up for discussion. I tagged the later uploaded one. A user by the name of George Ho tagged tye newer file for discussion on behalf of me. It sucks, but only three people answered on my entry (though those three people concurred with me). No administrator has closed it because four people agreeing is rarely consensus. What should I do if my discussion ever dies down without reaching consensus? I don't think this qualifies as a WP:DISCFAIL because that is more when you ask one person a question and he/she does not respond. Nutella lover • [ chat│supervise ] 06:47, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi Nutella lover, FFD discussions are, in priciple, supposed to remain open for seven days before they can be closed. Unlike some of the other XfD noticeboards, the number of administrators reviewing FFD tends to be small since files (particularly non-free files) can be trickier to assess in terms of relevant policies and guidelines; so, it's not uncommon for a FFD discussion to run more than seven days. Furthermore, non-adminsitrator closes are usually pretty rare because of the complexities involved and also because closes often result in files being deleted. FWIW, the administrators who do monitor FFD are a pretty dedicated and knowlegeable bunch but sometimes just get busy doing other things. I don't think there's really anything to worry about here; most likely one of those admins will get to the discussion (either to re-list it or close it) fairly soon. The most recent comment in the discussion was made early today; so, perhaps an admin is waiting to see whether that generates any additional comments. If another week or so passes without any new comments being made or without any administrator action, then you can always request a close at WP:CR. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:11, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Move request for an article

Hello. I have requested a move in Talk:Giovanni Battista de Rossi, I have to report the matter in some projects to get more opinions? ~2026-19073-91 (talk) 15:49, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Changing Username

Hello, I would like to change my username. Please provide me with a link for doing so. Dreambrokerz (talk) 14:13, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Special:GlobalRenameRequest. 331dot (talk) 14:17, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Changing username for an overview. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 16:33, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Paw Patrol edit request

Good evening. The main Paw Patrol page still states that the Dino movie will come out on July 31, instead of August 14. ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 18:40, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Please raise that on the article's talk page, citing a reliable source for August 14. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:45, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure i don't even need a source at this point, as it's literaly on the Dino Movie's page. ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 19:28, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that you do. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:44, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Paw Patrol: The Dino Movie The date is right there. Look at it! ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 21:37, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

OK, @~2026-24671-3, so copy the citation from that article. ColinFine (talk) 21:47, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

But Paw Patrol is locked, that's why i'm making an edit request. ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 23:06, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

The preferred way to do that is to make it on the Talk page of Paw Patrol, using the Edit request template, and stating the exact change you suggest and the source that verifies it.

Your initial post gave no indication of the source, and the other editors had to drag it out of you in stages. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 02:35, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

I did put it on the talk page and it still isn't there. Looks like ColinFine will have to do it himself. ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 06:13, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

You didn't include a source, despite all the advice you have received here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:33, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

I literally said that the correct date is on the movie's page. ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 13:32, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

And I literally said "Please raise that on the article's talk page, citing a reliable source for August 14." Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:08, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

I added the source. Happy now?! ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 14:56, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

I literaly added the source, but nobody edited it yet... ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 06:16, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Done TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 17:48, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paw_Patrol&diff=prev&oldid=1345710283 -- TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 17:49, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Not Available Information About Emiway Bantai (Indian Rapper)

This section highlights areas where publicly verifiable and reliable information regarding the Indian rapper Emiway Bantai is currently limited or unavailable. Despite his significant presence in the Indian hip-hop scene and substantial digital footprint, certain aspects of his personal life, creative process, and business operations remain either undisclosed or insufficiently documented in credible secondary sources.

Key areas with limited publicly available information may include detailed insights into his early life and background, comprehensive documentation of his music production methodologies, contractual or financial details related to his independent career, and verified accounts of his off-stage activities. Additionally, some claims circulating on informal platforms lack citation from authoritative or reputable sources, thereby rendering them unsuitable for inclusion under Wikipedia’s content guidelines.

It is important to adhere strictly to Wikipedia’s principles of verifiability, neutrality, and reliance on reliable sources when addressing such gaps. Any future updates to this section should be supported by credible publications, interviews, or officially released statements to ensure accuracy and maintain encyclopedic standards.

This acknowledgment of unavailable or insufficient information serves to maintain transparency while upholding the integrity and reliability expected of a Wikipedia entry. ~2026-19105-44 (talk) 18:14, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Please do not use LLM's to post here. Write in your own words. See Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines, and WP:AITALK in particular. We are not interested in engaging in dialog with next-word-guesser algorithms. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:19, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

And please also note that We appear to have no article on Emiway Bantai (Indian Rapper), we are also not capable of reading minds, and you will need to indicate where the issue is. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:23, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Emiway Bantai has been deleted 6 times previously. Theroadislong (talk) 18:33, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Yup, I found that. There still appears to be some questionably-significant content on the rapper in other articles, which may need cleaning up. If we are ever to have an article on this person, it is going to happen because of what gets published in reliable sources, and not because of pressure from publicists etc. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:51, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Quotation in article not representing actual quotation directly

Hi, an IP edit from around two years ago added a much-abridged quotation from a politician in my country to an article I'm currently working on. Being familiar with the politician and the context, I believe the quotation is useful (though it was written in very broken English before I fixed it), though I believe that this goes against WP:VERIFIABILITY. The online newspaper source of the quotation also has little more than the several paragraph long speech of the politician, which would force me to either pick and choose specific quotes or summarize the gist of what he's saying. Other sources also give inconsistent accounts as to what he said and also includes quotes in headlines/headings that aren't found in their main text (including the first source I mentioned earlier). What should I do? I appreciate any help. Wreaderick (talk) 19:12, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

How to start a page about a hospital, church, school and local talent

Hello team, I really need your help. I am in Uganda, and I would like to contribute to Wikipedia by providing information about churches, hospitals, schools, and local talent in the country, but I don't know how to start since my contributions tab is still inactive.

Seganda, n(talk) 22:27, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

@Seganda: I guess you see grey unlinked text "Contribute" in a menu. It's a heading for the following items and not supposed to be a link. See Help:Editing and note the requirement for reliable sources. Starting a new acceptable article is difficult for beginners but see Wikipedia:Articles for creation if you really want to try. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:41, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much Seganda (talk) 18:40, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Seganda, you're very welcome to try. However, please note that (i) the subject of any Wikipedia article must be demonstrably notable (as the word is understood here), and that (ii) most of the hospitals, churches, schools, and talented people in the world, however worthy they may be, are not demonstrably notable. Start by gathering reliable sources; and only when you've gathered several, start to create a draft, citing those sources. Indeed, before you even try this, it's a good idea to get practice improving existing articles -- always citing reliable sources, of course. Happy editing! -- Hoary (talk) 22:52, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much Seganda (talk) 19:24, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps you'd also be able to provide a photo. ~2026-18845-46 (talk) 12:29, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Seganda, and welcome to the Teahouse. I echo what Hoary says.

To clarify what @~2026-18845-46 says: if you are trying to create a new article, then really don't worry about photos until you have done the important work of finding suitable sources, writing a draft, and getting the draft accepted.

If you take Hoary's advice, and improve existing articles, then adding photos to articles that do not have them is one way to improve them. But unfortunately Wikipedia is very careful about copyright: if you are able to take a picture yourself, you can upload it and add it to an article (see Upload wizard), but you most often cannot use a picture that you didn't take yourself. (See image use policy). ColinFine (talk) 18:07, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much Seganda (talk) 19:24, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Donations, and my own biography

TOPIC: DONATIONS AND MY OWN WIKIPEDIA BIO.

I was a long term supporter of Wikipedia through monthly $1,000 donations to your foundation. I got a new credit card and would reup my donations IF: I could edit my own bio that is on your website and is full or malicious disinformation put there by several individuals who are stalking and bullying me. I have just set up a Wikipedia account, but this did not help me repair my own bio. Nor did it allow me to find information about how to become a supporter again. I need to be able to fix all the lies in my bio AND to shut out the individuals who are falsely editing it.

Sincerely Yours,

Founder, J Class Management, Inc.

Founder, The International Yacht Restoration School Elizabeth E Meyer (talk) 15:51, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

I assume you are referring to the Elizabeth Meyer article? I can see no recent evidence in the article history that seems to indicate malicious edits. Such issues are generally best dealt with at the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard, and you'll probably have more success posting there, providing the necessary details.

A couple of points though. Firstly we discourage (though don't absolutely prohibit) people from editing their own biographies - articles are supposed to be neutral, and based around what independent reliable sources have to say on the subject. Secondly, we DO NOT take into consideration whether donations (which go to the Wikimedia Foundation, not the volunteer contributors here) have been made when considering issues with articles. That would be entirely improper. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:02, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

I've removed the bit about the Vietnam war as off-topic, and based on a single source which mentions it in passing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Please see https://donate.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LandingPage&country=US&uselang=en&wmf_medium=sidebar&wmf_source=donate&wmf_campaign=en.wikipedia.org to restart donating if you so choose- but whether you do or not has zero impact on the content of the article about you.

Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources state about the topic. If the provided sources are not being accurately summarized, or sources are missing, please detail how on the article talk page. To propose specific changes, please use the edit request process to propose edits. I suggest you propose one or two changes at a time, incrementally, to ensure a volunteer working in their free time will review them. 331dot (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

You may also find the advice for article subjects, at WP:About you, useful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:28, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Sister Cities in Houston listing

According to Sister Cities in Houston, your list still reflects the name of Shenzhen (sister city for Houston) that should not be listed any longer. ~2026-19134-28 (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Please raise this concern on Talk:Houston. 331dot (talk) 20:23, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Mashallha

हैप्पी बर्थडे टू यू ~2026-18834-51 (talk) 15:33, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-18834-51: Google Translate says that means "Happy Birthday to you" in Hindi. Thank you. This is the English Wikipedia. Do you have a question for us? The Hindi Wikipedia has a help page at hi:विकिपीडिया:चौपाल. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:43, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Point of information, @PrimeHunter: that's not even a translation into Hindi, it's a transliteration into devanagari. It says "Happi brthde tu yu" ColinFine (talk) 18:17, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Hæppī barthḍe tū yū, too. —Antonissimo (talk) 21:28, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Match Bracketing

Hello- I was trying to fix/cleanup the table for the ongoing Celebrity Jeopardy!#Season 4 (All-Stars, 2026)_2, but have come into a bit of a dilemma. The current bracketing template being used is Template:27TeamBracket-3way, but that uses 9 quarterfinals, and need one with only 6 quarterfinals. The other closest I could find, Template:18TeamBracket-ThreeWay, uses 6 quarterfinals, but has only 2 semifinals while a bracketing is needed here with 3 semifinals.

I cannot seem to find any other bracketing template that has 6 quarterfinals and 3 semifinals, so am unsure on how to go about this. As it may be of use, the bracketing on the Jeopardy! website can be seen here. Thanks in advance. Magitroopa (talk) 01:43, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

@Magitroopa: I set RD1-byes = yes per Template:27TeamBracket-3way#Byes. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:36, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Citation policy and crosslinks

I've been reviewing citations to Medium.com and I ran across one in the article on Gelatin. The passage of concern is:

A common gelling agent in cooking, different types and grades of gelatin are used in a wide range of food and nonfood products. Common examples of foods that contain gelatin are jellos, trifles, aspic, marshmallows, candy corn, and confections such as Peeps, gummy bears, fruit snacks, and jelly babies.

I'd like to remove this citation as a WP:SPS. The issue is I'm unsure how to handle the examples. I think there's an argument for removing them all, however I also think there's an equally strong argument for keeping examples supported by their linked articles. I.E both jello and aspic mention gelatin almost immediately in their leads, which is supported by sources in their bodies.

The way I see it, the options here are:

1. Do nothing. Claim made is uncontroversial and not likely to be challenged, so Medium article is sufficient.
2. Remove the citation, leave all examples.
3. Remove the citation, leave only examples in which the linked article mentions gelatin in the lead.
4. Remove the citation, copy over citations from linked articles for each example to support that they're made with gelatin.
5. Remove the citation, delete entire examples section.

What's the best move?

As a more general question, how much can crosslinks support?

For example, if the article Dreyfus Act says "One system which is banned domestically under the act is the ED-209 peacekeeping drone, which is manufactured by OmniCorp," and ED-209 opens with "The Enforcement Droid Series 209, or ED-209, is a heavily armed, fully-automated peacekeeping drone manufactured by OmniCorp. It saw use in domestic law enforcement until it was banned under the Dreyfus Act," would I need a citation for the fact that ED-209 is banned under the Dreyfus Act, or would the crosslink be fine? Is there an official policy on this? (I searched but couldn't find one, please trout me if I missed it.)

Rcfische2 (talk) 23:52, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Using a crosslink to support a claim is like using Wikipedia articles as citations more broadly, which is not allowed. It would be better to go to the article in question, find the source which says that item contains gelatin, and then use that as your source. Athanelar (talk) 11:18, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

References

Removing duplicate Royce White photo

There's no need for Royce White's article to use the same photo in both his primary/basketball infobox up top and in the MMA infobox further down, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to remove the MMA one. Can someone please help? Thanks. SportsGuy789 (talk) 14:52, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

SportsGuy789, I checked for instructions in {{Infobox martial artist}} and added |suppressfields=image to the infobox, which has removed the image. TSventon (talk) 15:00, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Appreciate it! SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:21, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

March 2026 blanked

The March 2026 page from Portal:Current Events is blanked. What happened? G.J.S. (talk) 16:01, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Seems OK from here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:21, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @G.J.S..

I think you're referring to the page you get to if you pick "March 2026" from the top of the calendar picker on Portal:Current Events.

But I notice that 1) Portal:Current Events already contains events from this month; and 2) if I pick the back arrow to change the calendar picker to February, then the "February 2026" at the top of calendar picker is no longer a link.

So it seems to me that the "March 2026" shouldn't be a Wikilink, because Portal:Current events we're already there.

Perhaps you'd like to bring this up on Portal talk:Current events. ColinFine (talk) 17:56, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Yes, it's the page I was referring to. The problem is that the portal's main page has only the last 7 or 8 days, while the month page used to have everything from the beginning of the month, but I'll bring that issue there. Thank you very much G.J.S. (talk) 18:52, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Looks like it was a WP:PEIS issue, which has now been resolved. MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Email me! 21:26, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Trouble Creating Citations

I am having trouble creating citations, and I haven’t been able to figure out what I’m doing wrong. Please see citations 9 and 10 on this page: Take Me to God Ccgcc (talk) 04:55, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Fixed it; you were missing "url=". The same way you put "title=" before the title of the article you're citing, you need to put "url=" before the actual URL. Hope this helped. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 05:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Possible to Delete Edit Requests?

Hi! Does anyone know if it's possible to delete an edit request? New here, trying to learn. Thank you for your contribution to my wiki education!☺️ AGTWick671 (talk) 04:16, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

@AGTWick671: I'm presuming you're referring to your request on Talk:Ed Gein. While you may delete your own edit, it's bad form to revert other people's edits. Therefore, I restored your request and its responses. GoingBatty (talk) 05:50, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Accident while moving

Hello Wikipedians, I was trying to move User:Versions111/Hoya amboinensis into mainspace, but accidentally moved it to User:Hoya amboinensis. Can somebody delete the redirect? Versions111 (talk • contribs) 07:51, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

You can tag pages created in error like this with {{db-error}}, a subset of CSD G6. I've done so now. Athanelar (talk) 10:55, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia Guidelines Inquiry

Hello, I am Jonathan Marcellus. I would like help determining whether I meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. Here are independent sources about my research, citations, and public service. I have published research that has cited by many scholars, and it has been published through many academic repositories including academia.edu, ProQuest, Scholarworks and perhaps many others. It is titled "The Experiences of job recognition in the East Coast Casinos". I am also a published author of two books and a two-time regional political candidate for Atlantic County Commissioner. I am currently running in the 2026 primary and general election cycle. ~2026-19525-55 (talk) 04:31, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

First, read and digest WP:ABOUTME. If you still want to go ahead, read WP:GNG and WP:PROF and ensure that you satisfy either the one or the other. (You don't need to satisfy both.) -- Hoary (talk) 04:39, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Notability is not really based on what you've done, it is mostly based on what other people have written about you, with some very limitrd exceptions. A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source. Athanelar (talk) 10:57, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Can a common name/nickname be used at the start of a lead

I was a bit confused about why my edit was reverted. Since Tiger Woods is universally known by his nickname, and his birth name is Eldrick Tont Woods, I thought the lead could be written as "Tiger Woods (born Eldrick Tont Woods; December 30, 1975)". I only did that because his common name is Tiger, and I've seen similar cases, like Jilly Cooper, who was born Jill Sallitt but was known by her commonly used name. I'm just trying to understand what the difference is here. Thank you. ItsShandog (talk) 08:51, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Per MOS:NAME, The most complete name should appear at the beginning of the article to provide maximum information. I'm guessing the difference between your two examples is that Cooper changed her name (adopted her husband's surname), whilst Woods has kept his birthname, but just goes by a nickname. nil ^nz 09:11, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Actually, WP:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section#Alternative_biographical_names is the more useful link here, specifically the last bullet point. nil ^nz 09:18, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! ItsShandog (talk) 11:19, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

"Tiger Woods (born Eldrick Tont Woods; December 30, 1975)" implies he has legally or officially changed his name to Tiger Woods.

Compare Snoop Dogg; "Calvin Cordozar Broadus Jr. (/ˈbroʊdɪs/ BROH-dis; born October 20, 1971), known professionally as Snoop Dogg" This is the right way to handle someone who has a 'stage name'/nickname which they use in their professional capacity. Athanelar (talk) 11:16, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

That makes sense, thank you! ItsShandog (talk) 11:19, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

See also Sting (musician). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:23, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Another famous example is Ringo Starr. Cullen328 (talk) 18:05, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Fixing references 1, 7 and 12 at "List of mass shootings in the United States in the 2020s"

Do you know how to fix references 1, 7 and 12 at ? --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:09, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Also, I am not sure how to deal with this. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:14, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Go back to List of mass shootings in the United States and find the definitions for 1, 7, and 12 that were in that article before you moved stuff to List of mass shootings in the United States in the 2020s.

As for the other error, |last=News |first=B. N. O. is not an author name... Don't do that.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:39, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Capitalization

Lower in the body, right or wrong? How about Infobox? Henrydat (talk) 19:57, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

If it's a proper noun, capitalize. Otherwise, don't capitalize. See MOS:CAPS. But, don't sweat it, it's not a big deal if you get something wrong. MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 20:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. Henrydat (talk) 20:06, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Request to add Japanese language version of an article

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Hello there. Is it possible that someone could add a translated Japanese version of this page please?: Carl Randall. The content is relevant to Japan. Thank you very much for your assistance, hope someone can help! Kabuki-obake (talk) 17:02, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Already answered at the Teahouse. Please do not ask the same question in multiple places. Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:19, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Request for more input on a discussion

Hi everyone, I have started a discussion on the Talk:Giovanni Battista de Rossi, but I am not receiving enough input to resolve the issue. Could someone advise how I might attract more feedback? Thanks! ~2026-19735-12 (talk) 07:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

You could post a note to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Archaeology, inviting people there to comment on Talk:Giovanni Battista de Rossi. -- Hoary (talk) 07:33, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

What Hoary said, more general guidance at WP:APPNOTE. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:24, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Confined liquid

There is a stub under "confined liquid", subheading: confined to nanometer dimensions. There is only a stub, and the subject of confined water has become much more important based on recent (last ten years) work. I would like to change this stub to a full article (I have an article draft with 32 references (at this point--I cut it down from a longer book chapter in my book on "Water in Biology", which is three years old, plus some new references; I could easily extend it--it is rewritten, so there would be no copyright problems). The article is not controversial as far as I can tell, but it would replace the stub that is now all there is on the subject. How do I proceed? I tried just adding it to the top of the stub (which is not incorrect, just insufficient), but the automated filter rejected it as "disruptive". My article contains nothing political. I could extend it, with additional detail, but then it might become too technical for a general audience. Please advise M.E. Green ____ T333678 (talk) 18:46, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

You do not seem to have made any other edits on this account, so it's hard to see which article you're talking about or which edit was rejected by the filter.

Could you perhaps paste the rewrite you're trying to implement to your sandbox at User:T333678/sandbox so we can have a look at it? Athanelar (talk) 18:57, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @T333678

It strikes me as unlikely that a chapter of an existing book is going to suitable for a Wikipedia article - not impossible, but unlikely.

Writing for Wikipedia is different from most other kinds of writing.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

So the requirement is that most of the sources each meet the golden rule, and that the content of the article is a summary of what the sources say - nothing else. I guess it depends on the kind of book, but I would have thought that the book would contain at least some synthesis from the sources, which is not allowed in a Wikipedia article.

There's also a potential issue with copyright. If you are summarising the book, that is not a problem; but if you are copying whole chunks of it (or closely paraphrasing) that might be problematic. Even though you presumably hold the copyright on the original text, it is likely that it has been published with a copyright notice, and Wikipedia will not accept if unless you formally license it under a suitable licence such as CC-BY-SA - see donating copyright materials.

I don't want to dissuade you from contributing, but I think it's worth pointing out potential issues that might arise. It's probably also worth your looking at expert editors ColinFine (talk) 22:55, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

I probably should not have started with the reference to the book--it was more a matter of showing that I have the ability to write on the subject. The book has 13 subject matter chapters (plus epilogue and conclusion). This chapter has 107 references (it is an academic monograph, with references for each chapter). Not all the 32 references in the draft article are in the book--some are newer, for example. Obviously, this is a complete rewrite, not a paraphrase, and there should therefore be no question about copyright--there is nothing that is directly copied from the text, which is not written for a general audience. The article refers to the book, for those interested in further reading.

The reason for having a confined water article is that this subject is becoming increasingly important, and the absence of any mention of the subject (the stub has nothing really relevant) is significant lacuna in Wikipedia, which I have made an effort to fill. You should not worry about copyright issues.

This is not a subject that requires a point of view. The article covers the main questions that involve confined water--obviously it does not go into detail on each of the topics; I doubt that it would be considered in any way controversiila. T333678 (talk) 02:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello again, @T333678. Thanks for clarifying.

I would still advise you to read your first article, WP:synthesis, and WP:expert editors if you haven't already.

My concern is not whether it is controversial, but whether you, as an expert, might be tempted to go beyond what your sources say and inject your own knowledge and ideas. ColinFine (talk) 09:38, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

In this case, I think I have managed to avoid inserting my own opinions. The introductory material, calling attention to the number of water molecules per ion at several concentrations, is not usually included in textbooks but with experience I wish it had been--but it is useful for a general reader. I did not even include it in my monograph. However, counting the number of molecules is hardly a matter of opinion. On this topic, I believe I have simply written an abbreviated review of fundamental parts of the literature. This is not to say that I do not have controversial opinions on other topics; if I were writing on ion channel gating, I would write something that would differ from what others in the field would write. However, there is nothing on that topic here, and I believe what I wrote would be generally accepted as factual--I did my best to keep it factual. ~2026-19723-53 (talk) 10:50, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Geohack coordinates returning error

Is anyone else having problems with Geohack and the coordinates links? Chaosdruid (talk) 13:20, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

@Chaosdruid: Please always give an example. It failed for me a few minutes ago in London infobox but works now. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:37, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

It was all of them - i tried several pages, then several random pages. I shouldn't have to tell you to assume good faith. Chaosdruid (talk) 10:18, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Chaosdruid. PrimeHunter asked you for an example (since you hadn't given one) and then reported that he had seen a problem and then seen the problem go away. How is that failing to assume goot faith? ColinFine (talk) 15:12, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

@Chaosdruid: I also wonder that. I asked for an example so I could examine whether the same page was broken for me. Many problems only occur on specific pages or for specific users depending on their preferences, user scripts, browser, device, location, and so on. It's always important to give an example so others don't waste time wondering what they are supposed to examine if there is no apparent problem for them. Even if you think something is on all pages (which may or may not be true) , ALWAYS give an example. ALWAYS. Asking for an example is perfectly reasonable when a poster fails to give an example. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:13, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

"Can you give" or "what page(s)" would have been fine, but "always give an example" assumes I have read some rule somewhere and ignored it, and am now being chastised like a naughty child --- that, is the very definition of AGF. I also don't need another person jumping in to their defence AFTER I had given a reply either. When I tried twenty or more pages, half of them "random article" from various "sections", I'm certainly not going to be going back through my history to find them. It was only for a short time, all working agian, end of drama. Chaosdruid (talk) 10:55, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Makeship article removal

I saw about a week ago there was an article for the website Makeship but I checked now and its gone. I looked through articles for deletion and the consensus was keep so what happened, why is it gone? Medina1529 (talk) 13:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

It's here:Draft:Makeship...there was a second discussion a day later which resulted in "draftify". Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Makeship (2nd nomination). Lectonar (talk) 13:16, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Comment faire pour accéder à wikipédia

Comment faire pour accéder à wikipédia ~2026-19726-71 (talk) 16:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Bonjour. Si vous aimeriez, vous pouvez trouver le Wikipedia Français à fr.wikipedia.org. PolarClimates (talk) 17:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Keith Barnhart

My page (with the above title) was published for public search/view for 15-years. Without any notification, my page was deleted from public view. I realize "citations" were needed, but I find the methodology too difficult to understand how I am to provide that information as well as correctly submit this for the administrators satisfaction. The nature of what I do can only be proven with links to the organizations I participate/membership (or have in the past). Those links were provided in my 1st drafts which DID appear on the original published page. Examples of those were: simple Google search of my name, link to ASCAP's ACE database, the RIAA awards I have received, the union (AF of M) I have belonged, the college I graduated from- Berklee College of Music, magazines articles about me. Since the creation of my page I have been inducted into the WV Music Hall of Fame. Please contact me at the email address on file to best instruct me on how to get my page published (undeleted). Thank you. Festerbunny (talk) 05:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

No, Festerbunny, you won't get a response by email unless perhaps it's from somebody offering to help you for a price. (Ignore any such "offer": it's most unlikely to result in a competent draft.) Please read WP:42 to see what would be needed for an article about you. If you would qualify, then I imagine that somebody other than yourself would eventually get around to creating an article about you. Incidentally, you seem to suggest that "[your] 1st drafts which DID appear on the original published page" might have been superior to later versions; however, at the end of the first day of its existence, the article told its readers for example: Barnhart wasted no time in infiltrating and familiarizing himself to club owners and managers as well as club promoters and doormen to eventually be on the A-list, and VIP memberships of some of the cities most coveted nightclubs. / This move was essential for networking with industry notables and procuring work. -- Hoary (talk) 06:55, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Your text was all either unsourced or sourced inappropriately, with the possible exception of the newspaper, which I am blocked from viewing. I'm surprised it lasted so long before it was deleted Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:39, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Festerbunny.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

If there are not enough such independent reliable sources to base an article on, then Wikipedia should never have had an article about you in the first place; but we were less careful about this in the past.

The only way that an article about you could be published is if somebody showed that you met WP:NMUSICIAN - which still requires the multiple independent reliable sources to base the article on. ColinFine (talk) 10:05, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

If anyone contacts you about resuscitating the article, see WP:SCAM and don't fall for it. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 20:01, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Changing the profile photo to a recent one

Hi Team. I am Mari Kim, myself in wikipedia. I have been trying to change my profile photo for so many years and it has been so difficult, I'd like to succeed it this time, Please. How can I change my profile photo? Artistmarikim (talk) 20:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

See WP:A photo of you for guidance. Athanelar (talk) 21:38, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Is bold for someone's name not allowed if the page is not a redirect?

I see someone removed the bold from the names in the leads of a few pages I have done and said that this is because it's only done for redirects, but I'm confused because I was only following what I've seen done on basically every page I've ever seen, and some of them weren't redirects. Is this a very strict rule, or does it matter that much? For instance, this page doesn't say anything about a redirect at the top, Disappearance of Amanda Campbell, and it is using bold, Springfield Three, Ylenia Carrisi, etc., and many more. None of these that I can see are redirects, and they're doing the exact same thing with just the name of the person in bold in the lead. Unless the redirect is not obvious on these or I'm missing it, but I don't see anything about it, as it usually says at the top when a page is a redirect. Any clarity here would be great, thanks. ItsShandog (talk) 15:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

See MOS:BOLD. Without seeing the specific articles in question, it's hard to say whether bolding is appropriate, and there will always be edge cases. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:53, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Killing of Chloe Mitchell, Disappearance of Steven Cooper, these are the pages it was removed from and they're similar to the examples that I have sent. ItsShandog (talk) 15:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Also MOS:BOLD is saying "Boldface is often applied to the first occurrence of the article's title word or phrase in the lead." Would their name not be the title word or phrase? It is basically the focus of the whole page and I would argue the title word or phrase as the page is focused on them and their disappearance. ItsShandog (talk) 16:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Those are probably edge cases: the name isn't the full title of the article, and it's presumably the death/disappearance and surrounding events that are the focus, since these aren't biographies. If you think it's important, you can either discuss it on individual article pages, or maybe bring it up at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style. Remember though that bolding is never necessary to understand anything in this context: it's really nothing more than a typographical convention, and sometimes overused by contributors who mistakenly think it is some sort of requirement. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:12, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

@ItsShandog: MOS:BOLDALTNAMES says:

If an article is about an event involving a subject about which there is no main article, especially if the article is the target of a redirect, the subject should be in bold:

Azaria Chantel Loren Chamberlain (11 June – 17 August 1980) was an Australian baby girl who was killed by a dingo on the night of 17 August 1980 ... (Death of Azaria Chamberlain, redirected from Azaria Chamberlain)

So your examples should be bolded. If you make an edit which adds bold then you can say "per [[MOS:BOLDALTNAMES]]" in the edit summary. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:14, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! ItsShandog (talk) 16:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi @ItsShandog:, thanks for your message on my talk page which I will also reply to, but I have to say I disagree with this. The cases mention are not an application of MOS:BOLDALTNAMES, because the name of the affected individual is not a "significant alternative name" for the article about the killing. It is a redirect from a related topic, which is different. My opinion is that we emphatically should not bold the name of the person, per MOS:BOLDTITLE, which says "When the article title appears verbatim in the first sentence, it should be in bold. In articles where the article title does not appear verbatim in the first sentence, boldface is not used." These cases are neither the article title verbatim, not are they a significant alternative name, instead they are just part of a longer sentence detailing the fact that there was a killing/disappearance etc. Please let's leave them unbolded. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 20:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

@Amakuru: My above quote from MOS:BOLDALTNAMES is about exactly this situation. The example is Death of Azaria Chamberlain. The post to you was about Murder of Ashling Murphy, and Ashling Murphy redirects there. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

(Arriving from WT:MOS) @Amakuru: It's not an application of the first sentence of BOLDALTNAMES, but the later bit (quoted by PrimeHunter above) certainly applies here. Given that the Azaria Chamberlain example is explicitly included in the MoS as good practice, I can't see what's different in (in particular) the Chloe Mitchell or Steven Cooper examples above. In both cases I think the MoS says to bold. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 20:58, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Well, I guess that's in black-and-white then, but I am deeply surprised by that. That clause seems to completely contradict the sentiment behind the whole rest of the MOS:BOLDTITLE guideline. Why should such titles be exempt from the overall rule that we don't bold partial titles? In these cases, writing it that way gives undue prominence to parts of the overall subject of this article over others. The article isn't about Amanda Campbell it's about her disappearance, and frankly if you're going to bold one part of it then it would be preferable to bold all of it. Amanda Campbell disappeared is worse than Amanda Campbell disappeared IMHO.

Looking at this history of this carve-out, it has been around for a long time, since this 2013 edit, but was based on a discussion in which only the proposer and one other editor contributed. I would definitely !vote to nix that part of the guideline and stick to all non-bold if we were to discuss the matter now.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

@Amakuru: "Amanda Campbell disappeared" is the type of non-verbatim title MOS:BOLDTITLE says not to bold when the article title is Disappearance of Amanda Campbell. "Amanda Campbell" isn't a rephrasing of the article title so MOS:BOLDTITLE doesn't apply, not even the part which say not to bold, but something else like the followihg MOS:BOLDALTNAMES may apply. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:50, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, but it's in the same spirit as the non-bold rule. Don't bold the whole title, and also don't bold part of it. At Coventry City 2–2 Bristol City (1977) we don't bold Coventry City and Bristol City even though it could be said that the article is about those two things. And yes, I know that's a different case form an article with a direct redirect from the bolded topic, but the same principle applies. The lead should reflect the actual topic of the article, not some other topic that happens to redirect there because it isn't notable enough for its own article, and also happens to form part of the article title. The 2013 change was nonsensical and against the wider spirit of that guideline.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:08, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, but it's in the same spirit as the non-bold rule: as you allude, that's exactly why the exception is needed. The other key guideline is WP:BOLDREDIRECT: Terms that redirect to an article or section are commonly bolded when they appear in the first couple of paragraphs of the lead section. So the same principle doesn't apply -- the fat that it's a redirect is a crucial distinction. Removing the carve-out in MOS:BOLDALTNAMES wouldn't change the guidance, it would just make it less clear. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 06:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Turkish Young Academy Page

 Courtesy link: Draft:Turkish Young Academy

Hi, I added a page about Turkish Young Academy of Science its a long time i couldn't get a respond. May i have information about process and when it would be added to wikipedia? Thanks OpenNote (talk) 07:06, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Your draft is submitted and pending. As noted at the top, it could take some time before it is reviewed, as this is a volunteer driven process. Please continue to be patient. 331dot (talk) 07:45, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Giulio Gatti Casazza

Hi, could someone please move Giulio Gatti-Casazza to Giulio Gatti Casazza (without the hyphen)? This appears to be the correct form of the name (see also ). ~2026-19904-11 (talk) 11:13, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

The primary place to discuss this is at the article talk page: Talk:Giulio Gatti-Casazza. But doing a quick check, I note that all three references in the article are about "Gatti-Casazza", including the hyphen. Feline Hymnic (talk) 11:20, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Even the page you link to uses both forms. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

J. J. McCarthy

Could someone add hat notes in the article J. J. McCarthy to James Joseph McCarthy, John Joseph McCarthy and Joseph J. McCarthy? The page is protected and I can't do it. ~2026-19998-19 (talk) 09:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:28, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Please correct the Name of - Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Whenever we perform a search, only the name “Shivaji” appears. This does not reflect the proper respect for our great Maratha king, "Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj". We kindly request you to make the necessary changes at the earliest. ~2026-19792-03 (talk) 19:30, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

See the note at the top of Talk:Shivaji. We do not normally use honorifics or titles, unless they are used in academic sources etc. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

I would not trust a header box to be accessible to these people. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

The mobile version shows the box after clicking "Learn more about this page" at the top. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Adding a Talk:Muhammad#Frequently_asked_questions,_please_read_before_posting-style FAQ is an option. It may help some. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:39, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj

propose that the article on Shivaji be updated to prominently include the name “Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj” in the lead section. This full title is widely recognized and used across India in history books, government publications, academic works, and public discourse. While Wikipedia’s naming conventions prioritize concise titles, the introduction should accurately reflect the culturally and historically significant full name.

Link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivaji NavinP01 (talk) 05:23, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

As I said a little while ago on Wikipedia talk:Reference desk, the proper place for this proposal is Talk:Shivaji. —Antonissimo (talk) 06:31, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

That talkpage is now WP:SEMI:d, see Talk:Shivaji#Requested_move_30_March_2026 and several other threads there for context. Similar goings on at Talk:Sambhaji. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:39, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

… where, I now see, it has been rejected fourteen times in the past six weeks. —Antonissimo (talk) 06:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Change the current name with छत्रपती शिवाजी महाराज

use the name as per history books. Give title name respectfully. ~2026-19905-97 (talk) 12:08, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

In which article? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:23, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Shivaji. Yet again. -- Hoary (talk) 12:28, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you; now merged. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:36, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

As a heads up to the commentors, I've done exactly what was suggested for the FAQs on both Talk:Sambhaji and Talk:Shivaji and will also be reverting any new name-change requests on either talk page and WP:RFPP/E (which is also getting spammed with this) on discovery. I would not advise blocking any users who make such requests at present; they're all either TAs or otherwise throw-away accounts and blocking will do hardly anything based on history. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 15:19, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Dear Jonas

Someone has vandalized the article entitled "Dear Jonas.". In the text of the letter from Donald Trump to the Prime Minister of Norway, they have added two short paragraphs threatening a "murder spree" against Iran with the help of Israel. These paragraphs were not part of Trump's original letter ~2026-20095-19 (talk) 15:49, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Fixed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:53, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Need clarity for my contentious topic talk page section being removed

Hii, my talk page addition of new topic for improving a section of contentious topic page has been removed and I do not know the reason for it. In my opinion I made genuine and non bias attempt to improve the page but it was removed with no reason. The contentious topic template says only extended confirmed users are allowed to make edits - I implied that this applies to the main page and not talk page itself, this is what I understood from the wordings atleast.

My section was removed from the talk by a non administrator, are extended confirmed users allowed to that?, I thought they could only comment. Why is talk page being treated as private room. In my past readings of talk pages generally talk pages don't revert stuff. They are striked out or hidden with a comment for same. It feels harsh this way.

Article Dhurandhar: The Revenge Talk Page section revert edit `~ᴀɴᴋʀᴀᴊ ɢɪʀɪ🎇✨( C • Talk ) 16:24, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

It looks like someone already answered your question on your talk page. Do you have any questions that they didn't address? 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 16:31, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Nope, thank you. There should be way for everyone to atleast discuss ☹️ @JohnLaurens333 `~ᴀɴᴋʀᴀᴊ ɢɪʀɪ🎇✨( C • Talk ) 16:34, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Please see the note ('active arbitration remedies') at the top of the article talk page, and then read Wikipedia:Contentious topics. Due to extensive issues with disruption to the discussion by people clearly unfamiliar with how Wikipedia works attempting to argue their own opinions into the content (which isn't permitted - we base articles around published sources), we have unfortunately been obliged to restrict edits (other than simple uncontroversial requests for e.g. correction of typos) to contributors with more experience. This is clearly less than ideal, but the alternative can be so disruptive as to render actually fixing anything almost impossible. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:33, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

I understand that side of issues too, but it's easier to mass ban or purge comment than totally shut space for discussion, this is still my opinion and it seems current consensus is against that thinking. I think I received clarity, accept it with little sadness. `~ᴀɴᴋʀᴀᴊ ɢɪʀɪ🎇✨( C • Talk ) 16:37, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately we can't have a rule, and then apply it selectively based on how valid we think the suggestion was. That would be too prone to bias, or at least allegations of bias. I wish there was a better solution, but then again I wish people could be a little more rational about what should be a simple article about a Bollywood movie, and not a stand-in arena for a debate about the influence of politics on Indian media, and a focus for the interminable India-Pakistan rivalry/conflict/tedium. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:46, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Agree with what you said! Poepple, Rationality, Internet are increasingly more toxic relationship. Hate (sometimes scared) to come on internet and post anything. Thank you, I won't chase 500/30 hope it happens someday on own 🙏. `~ᴀɴᴋʀᴀᴊ ɢɪʀɪ🎇✨( C • Talk ) 17:04, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:14, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Merely continuing to edit in other areas of the encyclopaedia that aren't under extended-confirmed restrictions will let you get there eventually. Don't worry overmuch about it - contentious topics like that are probably the worst place for an editor to learn how to edit to begin with, since they're full of users who suffer no fools and are tetchy at best since the underlying topic is a bomb looking for a fuze. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Jazz Bassist

Who can help me document a Wiki page for my father, Bill Goodall, jazz bassist, who played with Tommy Dorsey, Tony Bennett, Frank Sinatra, George Shearing, Marian McPartland, to name a few. He's in published books and recordings with lesser-known musicians Steve Jordan's book and records (Here comes Mr. Jordan with Billy Goodall), Billy Butterfield's records (Fat Cat Jazz), Charles Peterson's book (Swing Era New York). Goodall70 (talk) 19:20, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

You might want to ask at the Music WikiProject, and describe what sources you have with significant coverage of your father. 331dot (talk) 19:23, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I don't see anything more than passing mentions, which isn't going to satisfy WP:BIO. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:16, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Your post was far too large, and possibly a copyright violation. Just tell the top three absolute best sources. 331dot (talk) 20:52, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

I was attempting to copy and paste an extensive list of all the albums my father has played on, I didn't realize it was a breach of protocol. In my first attempt at supplying the top three absolute best sources, the first one "Here comes Mr. Jordan with Billy Goodall" my father's name was removed, in fact there is no mention that he's even on the album. I have this album and a few others, as well as some books with Steve Jordan. When this is corrected, would this be one viable source? Goodall70 (talk) 15:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

We're looking for the kind of sources described at WP:42. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Goodall70, as you have made this appeal and have enabled email, what's very likely is that you will be contacted by a self-described experienced editor, senior editor, moderator, administrator, or other species of poohbah of Wikipedia, who'll offer assistance (for a price). Such assistance is unlikely to be competent, if it's delivered at all. Ignore it. -- Hoary (talk) 23:34, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Relevant guidance is at WP:SCAM. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:53, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Is my topic relevant?

Hello everyone, I'd like to write an article about current whale rescue efforts in Germany. A whale has been swimming in the Baltic Sea (outside its natural habitat) since the beginning of March, and since then it has been in the Media. He first became stranded nine days ago, was rescued, and has now become stranded four more times. It's a huge drama and media event; live streams are getting millions of views, it's dominating the news in Germany. He is also featured in international media, including BBC, CNN, Guardian, ... I'd really love to create an article about it; is it relevant enough? I'd say yes, since there's in-depth coverage. Unfortunately, the German Wikipedia doesn't see it as relevant, so I'd like to make an article Here. Sorry if I'm in the wrong section and thank you for your help! KatastrophenKommando (talk) 12:59, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

On English Wikipedia, the criterion is WP:Notability, which can be fulfilled by the requirements summarised at WP:42. If you have three sources good in all the respects detailed there, an article should be possible, and I'd be surprised if there weren't three or more such sources.

You've been here long enough to know about WP:Your first article and the WP:Article wizard, so I say – go for it! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 15:27, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm looking forward to preparing the article later. :) Do you have any good name suggestions? I'm still quite unsure. Thanks! KatastrophenKommando (talk) 17:29, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Not offhand, but don't worry about it. When a reviewer accepts the Draft and moves it to a new title (without the "Draft:" prefix), it can be given any title you or they think better. For now, just use something relevant, however clunky. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 19:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Imperial cities of Morocco

Special:Diff/1346472248

The source I'm using does not list specific authors names it only lists them as Britannica editors. How should I change the citation to make it better?

Thanks, Mc12354 (talk) 01:21, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Mc12354, |last=Editors |first=Britannica implies a writer whose first name is or was Britannica, born into a family with the unusual surname of Editors. Simply cut this. -- Hoary (talk) 02:16, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Sapana Pradhan Malla

Special:Diff/1346502160

I need the help adding a citation to the article.

Thanks, Janak Bhatta (talk) 06:13, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

You say |website=https://www.onlinekhabar.com/ -- but "website" should specify the title of the website, not the URL of its top page (or any other page). Additionally, please read up on title=, script-title=, and trans-title=; all three are explained in Template:Cite web/doc. -- Hoary (talk) 06:37, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

A disambiguation page that isn't?

I just deleted something under G4 and salted it. By my count articles on that topic have been deleted something like 11 times since 2005 at 3 different titles. At least 4 of those 11 times were at AFD. Here's the thing - we should and do cover the topic, but coverage of the topic is spread out across several different articles instead of consolidated into one article. Covering it all in one article would be a violation of WP:SYNTH.

I'm tempted to make a page to go at the main title (the one that has gone through AFD 3 times). Sort of like a disambiguation page. But usually a disambiguation page is something like "XYZ can refer to XYZ book, XYZ movie, XYZ song, XYZ place . . ." What I'm thinking is more like, "You may have arrived at this page because you are looking for information about XYZ or ABC or QRS or LMNOP..."

Do we have pages like that? I don't think that's really a disambiguation page. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 19:44, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Would a Category be of any use? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 09:22, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Hard to tell, given the lack of details, but Wikipedia:Broad-concept article may apply. Clarityfiend (talk) 14:24, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Can sorting on this list be fixed?

When sorting the list here List of Victoria Cross recipients by campaign by 'Dates', oldest first works fine, but when sorting newest first, the top two rows are 1879 then 1857–1859 (then 2013 etc..); can anyone have a look please? Or suggest anything I can try?. JeffUK 23:04, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

@JeffUK: You use VisualEditor where it may be hard or impossible to see what happens and change it. I fixed it in the source editor. The whole column uses awful code to make the sorting but I'm not dealing with that mess and merely fixed the two rows by using the same bad system. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:34, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

...I thought to myself "I've got time, I bet I could spend it fixing that". Then I opened the editor. What. the actual. heck. (Might still see if I can spend time fixing it. But not until I've finished some other low-priority off-wiki task that I actually want to do, ha.) - Purplewowies (talk) 00:34, 31 March 2026 (UTC) Three hours later... Done! - Purplewowies (talk) 03:50, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Kudos, Purplewowies! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 13:03, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, I use both where appropriate, I looked at the code too and knew I didn't have a hope of even understanding it! JeffUK 14:25, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Referencing error on: Irritable bowel Syndrome

Irritable bowel Syndrome page Other Agents section. Edited in Source editor, and the following error message was displayed on the page; Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).====Other agents Re-edited the page with the correct reference. The section now shows the correct citation and it is visible in the references section. However the error message is still displaying. How can I remove the error message. Carol A Howell (talk) 14:08, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Look for the text string <ref></ref> and remove it.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:19, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Now done. Somebody probably just added it by mistake. Clarityfiend (talk) 14:22, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you Carol A Howell (talk) 14:57, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Anchoring script

for school assembly on theme new beginning ~2026-20286-95 (talk) 14:11, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-20286-95.

I have no idea what that message means. Have you a request about using or editing Wikipedia? That is the only thing that this page is for. ColinFine (talk) 15:01, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Myarticle was re-published????

yo i’m Ozzie, formerly "rave(Crowny)" my article thingy randomly got edited and reposted without any explanation ??? It got dragged into a debate (which eventually ended with the disagreement on article-status and was downgraded to a draft) like over five months ago .. i’m kind of confused why (SOMEONE!! i will not name) tried to do a bold move like this … but whatever pleases the soul and mind ig. Anyways, can someone help me? rave (talk) 00:37, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, users don't "own" any article or draft. (see WP:OWN) Material submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and redistributed by anyone (if appropriate attribution is provided, see WP:ATTREQ). It looks like Veyhola decided to make some changes to the draft and publish it, presumably because they're confident the issues with it were resolved. You'd have to ask them about it. – Scyrme (talk) 00:56, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

ok, thanks. rave (talk) 21:40, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

April Fools jokes on ANI?

Hi! For April Fools, I'm thinking of filing a joke ANI against an alt made specifically for the joke. Would it be acceptable to make such a joke there (if properly tagged as humour). If not, is there a place a joke ANi would be allowed? QwertyForest (talk) 07:09, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

See WP:APRILFOOLS. Things that are added as jokes may not always be as funny as they seem to the person who posted them.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:10, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

@QwertyForest I think that would be okay, as long as you're tagging it properly and you think the folks over at WP:ANI would find your bit funny. Making alts for such purposes is acceptable. If it doesn't go over well, then that's alright too; there's no punishment for having a joke not land.

Best of luck! MEN KISSING (she/they) T - C - Em🐈ail me! 07:36, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

This is a bad idea. WP:FOOLS says "Posting jokes on the Noticeboards is not advisable." CodeTalker (talk) 23:40, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Group nomination for AfD of disambiguation pages with non-English titles

While doing WP:NPP I came across a lot of disambiguation pages with titles like 和徳, 和德, 昭二, 昭二 (disambiguation), 一秀, 嘉德, 國光. I think these probably go against WP:ENGLISHTITLE, and should be deleted as per this decision in December 2025: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/강동호 - although maybe there are good counter-arguments? Anyway, AfD says to use group nominations when several pages have the same potential reason for deletion. But how do you actually do a group AfD nomination? I usually use Twinkle to nominate from the individual article. Lijil (talk) 18:51, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

I won't nominate these disambiguation pages for deletion as I found a deletion review explaining that it's fine: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 October 12#樂天 and there is in fact a whole Category:Disambiguation pages with Chinese character titles.

I'd still love to know how to nominate a group of articles for deletion though! Lijil (talk) 18:59, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

@Lijil: See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to nominate multiple related articles. You can nominate the first with Twinkle. I don't think it has a feature for the others. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:01, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! Don't know how I missed that! Lijil (talk) 00:03, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

The rule of thumb here is whether the disambiguated term is ambiguous only in the foreign script - 一秀, for example, can be read as Isshu or Kazuhide in Japanese, Yixiu in Mandarin Chinese, or Il-soo in Korean, all four of which have articles in the English Wikipedia that would in isolation merit redirects from that title. The reason 강동호 was different is because (as I understand it; I don't speak Korean) that's always pronounced and romanized as Kang Dong-Ho. —Cryptic 00:34, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Information very controversial

Who could I speak to on a very controversial subject and try to hold on the story. ~2026-39610-0 (talk) 23:07, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

We'd need to know more details. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 23:24, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Given the single topic of every one of this TA's reverted talk page edits, I have my suspicions about the subject, though it's true they haven't said that that's what this is about. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:50, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

If it is anything whatsoever to do with the material they have been posting, they clearly have a fundamental misunderstanding as to the purpose of Wikipedia. This is an online encyclopaedia, which bases article content on material from published reliable sources. Whatever information they have on anything else is of absolutely no relevance here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Language links

Why language links are now sorted by language code, rather than by native name of the language? For example, Finnish (Suomi) is now listed under F, rather than S, because its language code is fi. I think that the old version is better. --40bus (talk) 16:43, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

This is the English-language Wikipedia. Quite a large percentage of monolingual Anglophones (Google AI suggests 95%) will have no idea that what in English is called Finland is Suomi in its own main language, and would be confused by such an ordering.

(Of those (5%) who do, I bet many will have been stamp collectors at some point. I was, but in any case I have also visited Finland.)

So Suo mi. Clarityfiend (talk) 14:18, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

I may have learned it at an Universala Kongreso de Esperanto. —Antonissimo (talk) 04:49, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

{The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 19:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

It had always been ordered by the native name of the language (romanized if not written in Latin alphabet) since I found that list many years ago. I looked the link to Finnish Wikipedia by searching "Suomi", under S. And I know native names of more languages than their language codes, so the ordering by native name should be the best option. And some languages have language codes not similar to English, e.g. Georgian ka and Irish ga so this new ordering does not always make it clear to English speakers. --40bus (talk) 19:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

I don't really like the change either. It seems to have been done in February (meta:Tech/News/2026/09), because the mw:Extension:InterwikiSorting was considered legacy code that no-one wanted to maintain anymore: phab:T253764. MKFI (talk) 19:51, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

"And I know native names of more languages than their language codes, so the ordering by native name should be the best option."

What you know, 40bus, may not be typical for the majority of users, but in any case the point is moot since that seems not to be the functional criterion used. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 09:26, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

@40bus: So where, in your preferred sorting order, does 中文 go? Bazza 7 (talk) 11:34, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

中文 (Chinese, zh) would go under Z, as it is Zhongwen. Similarly, 日本語 (Japanese, ja) would go under N, as it is Nihongo, and 한국어 (Korean, ko) would go under H, as it is Han'gugeo. The links of languages wrotten in other scripts would be ordered by romanized native name. --40bus (talk) 15:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Redirects to persons like this wanted - to be added in disambiguation pages?

Are redirects like Werner Hoffmann (pilot born 1920) to List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (Hn–Hz) wanted, and if so, are such people then to be added to disambiguation & family name pages? --KnightMove (talk) 03:06, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

@KnightMove It depends on if the subject would be notable enough for their own article.

If the subject would be considered notable, it's better to have a red link than a redirect to encourage article creation, and so the redirect should be deleted. I will note that the redirect you're talking about used to be an article, but an editor blanked and redirected (WP:BLAR) the page to its current target in 2017 because they think the subject failed notability; check the redirect's talk page. If you contest that, then restoring the redirect to an article would probably be better than deleting it.

If the subject would not be considered notable, then yes, the redirect should exist so that other parts of the encyclopedia have something to link to. However, in that case the link to the redirect at that list should probably be plain text instead of a link, per WP:SELFRED, or depending on the sort of list, the list entry should be removed. I'm not too familiar with inclusion standards for lists, so I don't know which of those two would be more appropriate. MEN KISSING (she/they) Talk to me, I don't bite! - See my edits 04:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

KnightMove, I disagree with MEN_KISSING on this one: It is better to have a redirect, and to include {{Redirect with possibilities}} as one of the Rcats on the redirect page.

Secondly, which Werner Hoffmman does the redirect even refer to?

Name	Service	Rank	Role and unit	Date of award	Notes	Image
Werner Hoffmann	Luftwaffe	14-LHauptmann	Gruppenkommandeur of the I./Nachtjagdgeschwader 5	4 May 1944	—	—
Werner Hoffmann	Luftwaffe	14-LHauptmann	Staffelkapitän of the 1./Schlachtgeschwader 1	8 August 1944	—	—

One of them is linked, but how do we know that's the right one? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 07:44, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

I believe they mean the second one, which in the list is linked to the mentioned redirect. That table is going off of my screen, what the heck!

I suggested that (if the subject is notable) the redirect could be deleted, because redirects that don't have much coverage at their target and could be expanded into an article are frequently deleted at WP:RfD, per WP:RETURNTORED. Although, it's possible that the list entry is enough substance to prefer redirecting there instead of having a redlink. MEN KISSING (she/they) Talk to me, I don't bite! - See my edits 07:59, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

MEN_KISSING, ah, I see. Well, I guess it depends how one reads #10: ...and the target article contains virtually no information. One row in the table may or may not fit that description. In these cases, I try to wear my reader hat and not my editor hat. The reader wants to know *something, anything!* about the guy, so that argues for keeping the redirect. My editor hat wants to know there is no article, so that argues for a red link. But—this editor uses a user script, so I *still* know it's a redirect, because it has a different color, voilà! (And because I like to go the extra mile, I even have a trick so I know not only that it's a redirect, but a redirect with possibilities. ) Seems like a coin flip, or which hat you are wearing, though. You should maybe get the script. Mathglot (talk) 08:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Error preventing the finding / loading of the page for for James Hurst Stead

below is the error message that occurs when searching or following link to J H Stead page. I'm not technically literate, would aomeone be able to advise what does it mean and can it be repaired. TIA, Rich.

[ee413b0d-7e14-4b01-8016-4b37b7a4b0ff] 2026-04-02 11:45:42: Fatal exception of type "Wikibase\DataModel\Services\Lookup\EntityLookupException" FFS7thGo (talk) 11:49, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

@FFS7thGo: J. H. Stead currently works for me but Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Intermittent database access errors shows some server problems today. Try again. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:03, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Creating (translated) Wikipage for en.wikipedia.org that exists in other language (de.wikipedia.org)

Motivation: the german wiki entry does not show up when searching in the en.wiki.

After finding the german wiki entry and trying a tool like google translate, the result is less than perfect.

How do I proceed? Cbumb (talk) 15:58, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@Cbumb See WP:TRANSLATE for the basics. One problem is that if you aren't fluent in both languages, you will struggle. One other issue is that very often foreign-language articles don't have the sort of good sources that allow you to show notability, as will be required for the English version. Depending on the topic, you might get assistance from one of our local project groups. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:44, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you Mike, but the translation isn't my problem.

The main problem I am trying to solve is that when searching on the en.wiki, the de.wiki entry is not found. Unless you know that there is a german version on de.wiki, you won't look further. That is why I am trying to create an (identical but in english) one in the en.wiki.

I'm not worried about adequate sourcing, but that would be something to address later if necessary. Cbumb (talk) 16:56, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

If translation isn't a problem for you, then your best approach is to start a draft, or a subpage off your user page, and work on it. Once the article is in mainspace, it's easy to add new languages to the selector. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 17:16, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Found what I needed: Wikipedia:Translation#Translation from another language to English:

If the English article does not yet exist:

• you can create a starter article (at least a stub) in English, using the process described at Your first article; once you have created the article, tag it with a translation template, as mentioned above.
• or add a page request red link in the Requested articles Project section with the proposed title of the article which will contain the translation adding an interwiki link to the other language's Wikipedia page(s). Note that fewer people will likely see a request created using this method.

Cbumb (talk) 17:29, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Cbumb.

Despite what that page says, unless you verify before you start that the German article has sources that are adequate according to the standards of English Wikipedia, then translating the German article will - at best - produce a draft that has been written backwards.

I strongly advise that by far the most effective way to translate an article which is not adequately sourced is to start from scratch, locating the requisite sources and (only if you can find them) summarising what the sources say with little reference to the original article. ColinFine (talk) 18:24, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@Cbumb, I see that you have noted a conflict of interest in relation to de:Victor Hermann Umbricht on your user page. I therefore suggest that you use Wikipedia:Articles for creation rather than moving the draft to article space yourself. I have edited your draft to disclose that it is translated from de Wikipedia and added some basic formatting, I hope that was useful. TSventon (talk) 21:34, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi TSventon,

Thanks- I can use all the help I can get right now ;-)

But I am quite confused - I think I have noted that in the COI itself, do you mean its better to also put it in the article? Also, I don't see your edits in the draft (yet?) is that just timing? or am I looking in the wrong place?

Navigating this process is quite the nightmare so far. What is the advantage of using Wikipedia:Articles for creation over working on the draft (which I think is in my "sandbox"?), but to tell you the truth, I thought I got there going through W:Afc. Perhaps I didn't save properly and started new in the sandbox?

Can I move what I have, wherever it is, to W:Afc somehow, or start over? What is the advantage of using W:Afc over what I am doing now?

Thanks! Cbumb (talk) 21:50, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

@Cbumb, your disclosure of COI is fine. I have edited User:Cbumb/sandbox you should be able to see what I have done by clicking on "Viw history"

Writing a new article is hard, even if you are just translating from another language. The standard advice here is to learn a bit about Wikipedia before trying to write an article, if you are interested you could look at Help:Getting started.

Your draft is in your sandbox, should I move it to Draft:Victor Hermann Umbricht? You may have clicked on Wikipedia:Article wizard and then on "Practice in your personal sandbox", but it doesn't matter much. It is best to move the page rather than copying the code so the history is preserved.

You need to do some more work on the page to make it suitable for publication, I recommend reading Help:Your first article, if you haven't already. Make sure the subject is Wikipedia:Notable before spending too much time. Then when it is ready, you can either publish the article yourself, or get a reviewer to check it first, which is known as "Articles for Creation". The advantage of AfC is that an experienced reviewer will check the article and tell you if there are any problems, also it is recommended by the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest policy. The disadvantage is that there can be a long wait. In any case the article needs to be checked by Wikipedia:New pages patrol before it is indexed by Google. TSventon (talk) 22:57, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you TSventon, much appreciated. Still trying to get used to how things work here. I compared what I saw in your latest version (Latest revision as of 00:04, 28 March 2026) and it looks to me like what I am seeing in what seems to be my latest version ( 22:38, 27 March 2026 ) in the source mode editing view?

If that is the case, this looks good to me. I am not sure if it should be moved it to "Draft:Victor Hermann Umbricht" as you suggest - (when I click on it I get "Wikipedia does not have a page with this exact title." which is what should be expected, I suppose). What would be the purpose if my 00:04, 28 March 2026 version is acceptable?

If this also looks ok to you, I would be fine with going ahead with publishing to AfC (if so how?) - but since you indicate this can take a long time, can it also be sent to Wikipedia:New pages patrol in the meantime? If so how? Cbumb (talk) 04:34, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

@Cbumb the article is not ready for publication yet. I think the subject is probably notable (suitable for an article in English Wikipedia), as he has an entry in the Historical Lexicon of Switzerland,. However English Wikipedia expects the information to be supported by inline references, and you have not done that yet. (As you can see German Wikipedia is different.) There are instructions at Help:Your first article#Citing sources, but to start with you could put <ref>...</ref> after the information and replace the dots with a web address for an online source.

To see the changes I have made you can click on the "view history" tab to see a list of changes and then "Prev" on one of the lines with my username, for example 05:01, 28 March 2026, where I removed some information at the bottom of the page.

You will only be able to move pages when your account has been live for 4 days, so you are not able to publish the page yet, even if it was ready.

The difference between AFC and new pages patrol NPP is that AFC is a check of a draft and NPP is a check of a page which has been published, so NPP can't happen before AFC. (Some AFC reviewers will mark articles as NPP patrolled when they publish them, but that is random.) Articles in the AFC queue are generally moved to draft names like Draft:Victor Hermann Umbricht as that means that a potential reviewer can see the page is a draft and what the subject is.

I have added some code to enable you to submit the article via AFC. I advise that both because of your conflict of interest and because you only have a day or two of Wikipedia experience. TSventon (talk) 06:00, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you TSventon. Impatience with the process is on me.

I am also still battling with the user interface of this process, like the to me unpredictably popping up error message about incorrect nCaptcha , that comes and goes (I saw a comment that this was happening when you are < 10 edits or something, and it did go away yesterday, but now its coming back again, and stopping again... is this recurring for every different page (like Homepage, Sandbox etc.?)

Anyway, my main question right now is your point about inline references. I have tried to add some already, but it's hard for me to decide what details are worth referencing directly beyond what is listed right now - e.g., do I have to dig up references for the listed Honors? Every item mentioned in the LIFE segment, e.g. documenting that he was a court clerk in 1939-41?

These things are basically covered in the Historical Dictionary of Switzerland and the Neue Deutsche Biographie... is that not acceptable?

Perhaps you can point out some key items that would need more detail?

Thanks again! Cbumb (talk) 16:42, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

TSventon,

Some more thoughts on the additional inline referencing. (Looks like I can't edit my 16:42 entry after hitting the reply button).

One dimension I think needs consideration is that the COI issue. As I stated with the COI box, I am hopeful I can mitigate COI concerns by staying.as close as possible to the de.wikipedia (and fr.wikipedia) versions, with which I had no involvement.

I am sure I don't have to point out that the selection of references can easily be a means of biasing content. Introducing many new references will likely be a flag for the reviewer(s) to carefully scrutinize them - which is fine, but could lead to much more work = time etc., which motivates me to stray as little as possible from the original de.wiki. version. I get that the en.wiki reference standards are different, but I would prefer avoiding trouble.

Your guidance is much appreciated. Cbumb (talk) 20:09, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Cbumb, firstly Captchas, I think they are generated when you try to add external links and your account is less than four days old (or has less than ten edits). Four days isn't long.

On in line citations I would say cite everything. The article on Paul Trappen mentioned below is an example, there are just three references, but they are all given names and can be used more than once. The lead is often a summary of referenced information in the rest of the article, and in that case it does not need references. Wikipedia:Verifiability says references are needed for material whose verifiability is likely to be challenged. The article is mainly a list of roles and dates, so I would say all the information is equally likely to be challenged. From experience of German Wikipedia, inline citations are not required there, or at any rate not enforced. Also the German article was started in 2008 and the rules could have been different then. The earliest version of the article has an edit summary which suggests that it used Daniel Schwane's NZZ article. Do you have access to that?

You have a conflict of interest because Victor Umbricht was your father, so your draft needs to be checked by AfC. You have to change the article a bit to make it suitable for English Wikipedia and that creates work for you and the reviewer. I don't think the reviewer will be concerned if you choose the HDS, the NDB or the NZZ as a reference for a fact. Obviously adding lots of positive adjectives would be a bad idea. TSventon (talk) 02:10, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi TSventon, thanks for your suggestions. Have a look at the current state - I believe I have added inline refs where it makes sense. Fortunately, all the relevant points I can see were covered by the references already there, I just added them inline where appropriate, so COI should be minimal. I was able to add direct links to the External links missing them (like the NZZ article).

Is there anything else necessary? Again, I would like to minimize my own footprint as much as possible to minimize COI concerns.

If this looks ok, Next Steps? Thanks! Cbumb (talk) 18:31, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Cbumb, the article looks good, do you want to submit it to AfC? As you have seen I have made some minor adjustments here and there. I have just removed an external link to a pdf, perhaps that should be readded as a reference, if so it would be useful to clarify what document pages are being used. I want to format a couple more links as templates, but that need not delay you. The article only has two sources, which is very low, but hopefully enough. Also it mostly lists what he did and when, with minimal analysis, but I can understand why you don't want to work on that.

Did you find any discrepancies between the article and the sources? The NDB has an award from Los Angeles in 1984, not in 1987, that may be worth correcting. I think the article title should probably be Victor Umbricht as that is what both sources (and List of Bilderberg participants) call him. German and English titles don't have to be the same.

Incidentally, I found two Wikidata items for you, so I merged them as Christopher B Umbricht (Q91143227). TSventon (talk) 00:01, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

I translated Paul Trappen from the German Wikipedia, and it was a lot of work. I know a bit of German but I am not fluent, so I did a lot of running a sentence back and forth between German and English in Google Translate, changing phrasing a bit until the bidirectional translations were stable. Much of the German article cited no sources, so I had to remove statements or find sources for them. This was also a lot of work. I added another source too. Within hours of my posting the translation, a bunch of edits appeared in the German version to update it, so I assume my version was used for that. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 16:53, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch TSventon.

Q1: Move to AfC - Yes.

Q2: Agree. The link went to a lengthy PDF, of which only one segment is relevant: the Summary Record of the Secretary-General's meeting on UNROD on 26 April 1972 (p1-7.) What I have no idea about is how to create a link that selects that portion, not to mention that I have had great problems with the way refs appear to be managed here - when I was inserting the in-lines, for instance, suddenly the sandbox mechanism started added a new (identical) references (i.e., the small [1] and [2]), with a new entry and number below every time I did that...??? I was able to get rid of it, but there is a lot of the UI I still don't understand.

Anyway, could you add that PDF as ref [3] below and at the same spot in line as the UNROD-related [1][2], perhaps with additional info stating something like (Secretary-General's meeting on UNROD on 26 April 1972 (p1-7.) ?

Q3: Links vs Templates - gladly leave that to you since I have no idea what the differences are and how they work differently.

Q4: "minimal analysis" - yes, that is something I want to stay away from for COI reasons, and it is not my expertise.

Q5: Discrepancies - Yes I saw that, and don't really have a better suggestion that yours, to assume Mr Schwane has a typo and rely on the NDB date of 1984.

Q6: Title = Victor Umbricht - I don't know the better choice, I stayed with the full name Victor Hermann Umbricht to stay close to the de.wiki entry.

Q7: Merged Wikidata - thanks - no idea what that does but fine with me. Cbumb (talk) 02:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

TSVenton,

on second thought (re Q5: discrepancies): I prefer leaving it as is, since that reflects the info on the de.wiki, fr.wiki, it.wiki. I haven't been able to find a "tie-breaking" other source, so I prefer leaving it consistent with those entries. I did find some correspondence between some Swiss official thanking a US/LA official for honoring Victor Umbricht with the LA award, and that was in 1987, so there is that. I will continue to look for more, but leave it for now. Cbumb (talk) 11:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

TSVenton,

re: Q5: Discrepancies: Found one in the NZZArchives (1/15/1987, p.34): https://zeitungsarchiv.nzz.ch/read/7395/7395/1987-01-15/35 Cbumb (talk) 15:12, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Cbumb hi again. Firstly please could you "ping" me when you want a response. You can do that by copying [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] from my signature, you also have to sign your post. That means I will see your queries sooner.

Q2 and Q3: I will deal with those in the next day or so and let you know if I have any problems.

Q5: discrepancies. English Wikipedia has a Verifiability [policy, which] means that articles should contain only material that has been published by reliable sources, such as reputable newspapers and scholarly journals. The quote is from Help:Introduction to policies and guidelines, I have added a couple of words in brackets. Therefore we should rely on what Schwane wrote in the published Historisches Lexikon der Schweiz, rather than what he (?) wrote in German Wikipedia, which is not a reliable published source. I am less familiar with the policies of German Wikipedia: they will be somewhat different, and will have developed since the article was written in 2008. Obviously even reliable sources occasionally make mistakes, but footnotes help readers evaluate the evidence. (As an academic, you will know that better than I do.)

Q5 again: I don't have access to the NZZ archive, please could you quote what it says?

Mentorship: I see that you have asked your "mentor" a couple of questions, hopefully they will respond soon. Wikipedia:Mentorship volunteers agree to answer questions, they don't check all your edits.

P.S. Congratulations you are now Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed. TSventon (talk) 16:12, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks TSventon,

I will try to ping from now on - not sure when to put the "TSventon" - here goes a try.

I have a screenshot from the NZZ 1/15/1987-p.34 notice, not sure if it will work if I just paste it here, since I don't have a copyright.

Following the popup instruction, I copied it to "Screen_Shot_2026-03-30_at_12.19.09_PM.png (744 × 361 pixels, file size: 437 KB, MIME type: image/png)", no idea if this works, or if I am violating some rule. Cbumb (talk) 16:33, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi TSventon, did the "ping" work yesterday? Also, you mention "you also have to sign your post" - not sure what that means or how to do it (is this specifically for "pinging"?) - I assume everything I enter and "publish" or "reply" is signed?

ad Q2: What about the PDF (https://thedocs.worldbank.org/en/doc/639451391017922190-0560011973/original/WorldBankGroupArchivesFolder1771226.pdf) you removed with the suggestion of adding it as reference, which I think is a good idea, as it illustrates the Bangladesh engagement for the UN/Worldbank mission.

Problem: only one segment is relevant: the Summary Record of the Secretary-General's meeting on UNROD on 26 April 1972 (p1-7.), but I don't know how to selectively link that from the overall linked PDF doc. You can do a find in the browser ("Summary record of the Secretary-General's meeting on UNROD

on 26 April 1972) when you are on the PDF, but I don't know if the specific segment can be in the link.

Anyway, I believe this is soon ready to submit to the AfC? If so, how to I do that?

Thanks!

TSventon Cbumb (talk) 13:45, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

@Cbumb, thank you for the pings. The location of [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] doesn't matter, you can put it at the beginning. The thing about signing is that if you edit a conversation to add a link to a user without adding a signature, the ping doesn't work.

I have added the reference, I don't think that it is possible to link to a page in a PDF, but the reader can search for the title. I looked up Biharis in Bangladesh and it seems some are still stateless.

I have moved the article to Draft:Victor Hermann Umbricht. I think the article is ready for AfC, to submit it just click on the blue button near the top "Submit the draft for review!"

The 1987 NZZ clipping is probably a copyright violation, so it will be deleted shortly. You could add it as a reference by adapting <ref>{{cite news |title=Globales Engagement vor der Globalisierung |trans-title=Global Engagement Before Globalization |url=https://zeitungsarchiv.nzz.ch/read/127577/127577/2008-07-14/9 |work=Neue Zürcher Zeitung |date=14 July 2008 |language=de |url-access=subscription}}</ref>. TSventon (talk) 14:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

TSventon

Thanks TSVenton.

About the signing - probably doesn't matter, since you got the ping, but I still don't understand what you meant with "signing" - I never tried to "sign" anything - is that automatic?

Thanks for the PDF reference. Works as is, but it would be nice if I/you could added an additional "Search PDF for "UNROD" to locate" at the end of the reference, or something like that?

I don't want to mess up the reference block, and I don't know how to access {reflist}, which is all I see in the source editing mode. So I don't know how to do that.

As to the NZZ - the link to the PDF alone is not a copyright issue, right? Since wikipedia allows paywalled references (correct?), I think we can leave it as is?

Other than that, I believe I'm ready to submit? Cbumb (talk) 15:45, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Cbumb, yes, I think you are ready to submit. For the rest:

Signing is the process that adds your username and the time and date to your edit. I think it is automatic when you use the Wikipedia reply tool, in any case it is obviously working.

The way references in the article work is the code for the reference appears following the sentences it supports and is displayed as a superscript number where the code is located and as a reference with the same number where the code {{Reflist}} is located. So the code for reference 3 appears after the word "(UNROD)". I have added the note you suggested to reference 3.

Linking to the NZZ website is not a copyright violation. TSventon (talk) 17:08, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

TSventon

Thank you!

Not very happy with the available "Tags", but you can't create new ones I guess (like "UN" "ICRC" or "International Mediation"... Oh well.

Submitted.

Thanks again for your help.

chris Cbumb (talk) 17:31, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Cbumb it is good to see that the article is submitted. I would suggest checking to see if AfC have responded with queries, ideally weekly. If you add an email to your Wikipedia account, you can get email notifications if a message is posted to your talk page or to a Help:Watchlisted page, see Help:Email notification.

The tags on the talk page are "Wikiprojects", which are groups of people interested in editing articles related to a topic. Many projects are now inactive, for example I added Wikipedia:WikiProject United Nations, which seems to have been merged with Wikipedia:WikiProject International relations. Are you happy wit the article's categories? They do a similar job. TSventon (talk) 18:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

TSventon

Yes, I think your additional tags/categories are fine.

Re: email - I am getting emailed notices when you reply - is that different for the AfC? Cbumb (talk) 18:28, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Cbumb, I just wanted to check if you had set up email notifications, I didn't when I first started. I also recommend watchlisting Draft:Victor Hermann Umbricht.

Incidentally, would you be interested in providing an image for the page? It could be either fair use, just for English Wikipedia, once the article is published, or freely licensed, which could be used on any Wikipedia. TSventon (talk) 19:05, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

TSventon

It looks to me like the draft:VHU page is on my watchlist, although I didn't create the watchlist, as far as I know...

As to an image, sure, but I will have to root around to find one that is not from a publication/newspaper etc. Since I am in the US, I will have to ask my sisters who are still in Switzerland if they have something suitable. If so, assuming it is some family photo, what next? Take a iPhone picture and submit - where to?

Take care.

chris Cbumb (talk) 19:17, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

TSventon

Hi TSventon,

just added a portrait - just took an iPhoto picture of a family photo - is that what you had in mind? Cbumb (talk) 02:34, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Cbumb, I was going to suggest reading Wikipedia:Uploading images, but didn't get round to it.

I had a look at the photo on Commons, do you know who took the photo and when? I recommend reading c:Commons:Copyright rules. The copyright for a photo generally belongs to the photographer and so does the copyright of a photo of their photo.

If the photo is not suitable for Commons it could be uploaded to en Wikipedia as a fair use image once the page has been published as an article. TSventon (talk) 03:26, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi TSventon,

Impossible to know who the photographer was, this photo has been in the family > 50 years, most likely taken in his office by a CIBA-Geigy photographer for unknown reasons, perhaps just for my fathers personal use, no idea.

re: "If the photo is not suitable for Commons it could be uploaded to en Wikipedia as a fair use image once the page has been published as an article." Not clear what you are saying - doesn't that sound like a chicken and egg problem? How can we "publish the page as an article" if I can't add the photo to the article?

Thanks! Cbumb (talk) 03:42, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

TSventon

OK, I did a Google "Image search" and got only 1 hit for the Portrait Photo: https://referenceworks.brill.com/display/entries/HACO/A9789024731800-04.xml

This is from Victor Umbricht's own book: Principles of International Mediation The Case of the East African Community (Volume 187):

The Hague Academy Collected Courses Online / Recueil des cours de l'Académie de La Haye en ligne

Author:

Dr. Victor Umbricht.

No idea what that means as far as copyrights & fair use, etc. It does suggest that he arranged for this portrait himself.

Let me know what you think. Cbumb (talk) 15:51, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Cbumb, I was just typing a response.

If the photo was taken around 1970 it could still be in copyright in Switzerland until around 2070. (1970 plus remaining life of photographer say 50 years, plus 50 years.) Generally the photographer would hold the copyright, unless there was evidence that they transferred it, which presumably isn't available in this case. You could ask at c:Commons:Help desk as they are more expert. If you or your sisters have photos you took yourself, then your or they could upload them to Commons as own work. Wikipedia and Commons have to be serious about copyright and obviously most editors are not copyright experts.

To clarify what I said about fair use, the draft can be published as an article without an image, then the image can be uploaded with a fair use justification and added to the article. I found an example, File:AKM Nowsheruzzaman.png, if you click on the link you can see there is a "Media data and Non-free use rationale" below the image.

I see that your mentor has not answered your questions, that could be because they were rather long. You might do better with something like "A helpdesk advisor, TSventon, has advised me to add inline references for all the facts in my new draft, Draft:Victor Hermann Umbricht. Is that correct, it seems excessive?" You have done the work now, but if you are still curious you could ask the shorter question at the helpdesk or the Tea House and I promise not to answer "Yes, I was right, signed, TSventon." TSventon (talk) 16:00, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

TSventon

Thank you, that sounds doable. I'll try to do something along the lines of your example (can I still modify the copyright annotation in the existing photo upload, or start over?). I obviously don't know if I can replicate things like the boxes showing the use rationale in your link etc, but I'll give it a try.

I also just emailed the above Brill publishers "help desk" (

https://brill.com/page/resources_rights

) to ask if it is ok to use the photo or what the process to get permission looks like.

The family photos we have otherwise are not suitable, e.g vacations (in bathing suit) etc.

chris

Cbumb (talk) 16:20, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

TSventon

Addendum: As I suspected, this is not easy. I tried to edit the Image, adding:

"This photograph is copyrighted and is NOT under a free license. However, it is believed that the use of this work in the article "Victor Hermann Umbricht": to provide visual identification of one or more specific individual(s), where the individual(s) concerned are deceased, and for whom there is no known representation under a 'free' license, on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Any other uses of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. See Wikipedia:Non-free content and Wikipedia:Copyrights."

and got:

An automated filter has identified this edit as potentially unconstructive, and it has been disallowed. If this edit is constructive, please report this error.

Unconstructive? Cbumb (talk) 16:36, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Cbumb, again I was typing a response.

I think you need to start again for fair use on Wikipedia, but the policy is that you need to wait until the draft is an article. You can use Wikipedia:File upload wizard and select "Upload a non-free file", then you will be asked questions that populate the "Media data and Non-free use rationale" box. That should work, but if it doesn't you could ask a new question here or at the Tea House.

I don't know what happened with your Commons edit, but the reason may be that Commons does not allow fair use of non-free images. "Unconstructive" is Wikipedia jargon for edits that are incorrect, either deliberately or mistakenly. TSventon (talk) 17:09, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

We can think about what to do if Brill is able to clarify who owns the copyright of the current image when it happens. TSventon (talk) 17:09, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Creating a wiki page

My son just turned pro and turned 18 on the 25th, so I think he can legally have a wiki page now, just wanted to make sure. I also wanted to know how I can create a page for him or have someone help create a page for him?

thank you ~2026-20318-54 (talk) 01:57, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Our ability to read minds does not exist, and as such we can't begin to consider researching sources, let alone writing an article based off of those sources, for such an article. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 02:00, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

~2026-20318-54, you do not have to be 18 to have a Wikipedia page. Prince George of Wales had a Wikipedia article before he was born. Here is what the article looked like, when he still had a week to go. The Wikipedia page of Princess Charlotte of Wales was started eight months before she was born. But they were highly WP:Notable at birth, or earlier. When your son is notable, he can have a page, too. But someone else will have to write it, not you. Mathglot (talk) 03:23, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

@20318, can I assume by a "wiki page" you mean a Wikipedia article? If you instead mean a Wikipedia account, then your son is more than welcome to create their own account and start editing.

It would help for you to give us more information on who exactly your son is, that they might be eligible to have a Wikipedia article about them. You mentioned your son "turned pro", is he an athlete of some sort?

In any case, I would advise you not to try to write an article about your own son, as it's a clear conflict of interest (see WP:COI). MEN KISSING (she/they) Talk to me, I don't bite! - See my edits 04:38, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-20318-54, and welcome to the Teahouse.

It sounds from your question that you believe that somebody (such as a sports person) can "have a Wikipedia page", which will advance their career (you didn't say that last bit, but I'm guessing that that's your hope).

This is not how Wikipedia works. We talk informally about people "having" an article, but that is misleading. If your son meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability (which is mostly about what has been independently published about him, not about what he is or has done), then there could be an article about him. Such an article would not belong to you or him, would not be controlled by you or him, and would not necessarily say what you or he would want it to say. It should be almost entirely a summary of what those independent commentators had chosen to say about him.

And if he does not meet those criteria (which is probably the case, for an 18-year old, though there are exceptions) then no article about him will be accepted at present, whoever writes it.

My advice would be to forget about this. If he is or becomes notable in Wikipedia's sense, then probably somebody will eventually write an article about him.

But if you decide to press on with this: My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 17:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

American Street Railway Association

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As a community member of the German Wikisource, I am above all concerned about finding together and collecting links to volumes of different journals and identifying the title history. Having identified the volumes available, I try to check them for interesting contents, both information and visual input wise. Basically I am working on German journals, but at the moment I am putting together digital editions of American transport journals. One of them was s:de:The Street railway journal. In the 20th anniversary edition of Oct, 8 of 1904] (vol count 24.1904 due to half-year volumes starting with 21.1903), there is a page with portraits of officers and executive committee of the American Street Railway Association. Later in the issue (pp. 517-524), there is an overview of the history of the association. As I would not want to intervene in nor am familiar with the edit requirements of the English-speaking Wikipedia, I would like to use this forum to make you aware of this association not yet covered in our Wikipedia. There are reports of the annual meetings of the association in Hathitrust and, in addition e.g. 14th 1895/1896 scanned from the Smithonian Libraries on Internet Archives. I am aware that we are all voluntaries and so this is just a making aware, not an expectation that anyone feels inclined to elaborate an article on the association. There are of course many other interesting materials in the journal, e.g. pictures of the new power plant standing at the corner of 58th Street and 11th Avenue in New York. (I apologise for any conveniencies caused by posting this making aware here as well as for the stupid fact that the consolidated edition of this journal is found on the German Wikisource and not on the English WS, but unfortunately the English-speaking WS community rejects pure consolidations of links where individual volumes of a journal can be found.) Haendelfan (talk) 03:23, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

@Haendelfan Perhaps there would be some interest in this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:26, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång Thank you very much for making me aware of this special interest group, I have published a copy of this text there. Feel free to delete or archive my comment here in this main discussion group. Haendelfan (talk) 10:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

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Error when saving pages

Hi there, when I go to save pages I get the error "internal_api_error_DBConnectionError" anywhere between 0 and 2 times, and this has happened since this morning. When using AFCHelperBot it tries to save the talk page message notifying the decision and fails, which could lead to someone being improperly notified of a decision. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. JacobTheRox^{(talk | contributions)} 12:43, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

P.S. when saving this page I got "[21bfadbb-f915-433f-94c4-fae0e4cd3758] Caught exception of type Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBConnectionError" twice JacobTheRox^{(talk | contributions)} 12:43, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

As @PrimeHunter mentioned above, Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Intermittent_database_access_errors suggests this is an ongoing problem. Madam Fatal (talk) 15:16, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

...but hopefully short-term. Try again in a few hours. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:55, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Profile pic

I am a pro wrestler and in the past helped another pro wrestler i know personally fix the incorrect info on her page that stated she was married when she is not. I got asked to help by her because she’s not good with computers. After i fixed it she asked me if i could change the profile pic to one she provided. I tired to do that last time and it turned into a whole issue. She contacted me again today with the same request because someone keeps putting up an “ugly” pic of her as she puts it. Last time the issue was with incorrect info with the licensing. Even though she has permission from the photographer to use it where ever i’m not sure what the correct info i need to provide that i need to add. Can someone please show me an example of what is needed so i can provide it? Thank you for any help! Mikeywhatnow (talk) 22:05, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

@Mikeywhatnow: Her having the permission is meaningless as she isn't the one hosting the image. Show her WP:Donating copyrighted materials and tell her the photographer is the one who would have to follow the instructions on that page. (If it isn't the photographer - i.e. the photo was a work-for-hire - then whoever holds the copyright would need to.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 22:11, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

@Mikeywhatnow You might also want to have her read through WP:A photo of you which has guidance on how article subjects can provide us with photos of them. Athanelar (talk) 23:44, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

porn link

Maqluba (Malta)

first link geology i a porn link

sadly on a very good entry ~2026-20709-68 (talk) 09:42, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Good find. I've removed both uses of the usurped link. Athanelar (talk) 09:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

@Athanelar Here's an archive:. Not sure how we cite this without including the original link. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:56, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

I guess we could just include the archive url as the original URL; I would probably advise against including the link at all, though, since someone may well remove the archive link at the start to try to see the original site and get jumpscared by the Russian porn site. Athanelar (talk) 09:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Oops, I already included the archive URL as the original URL. CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 10:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

I think I handled them all: six articles contribs. (I outright removed it only from Lake Bermudez; feel free to put the proper |archive-url=.) — DVRTed (Talk) 10:17, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Made an edit per WP:USURPURL. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:21, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Billing

How do I change billing method? Jsgeology (talk) 14:49, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

This is the help desk for the English-language Wikipedia. Since we do not bill anyone for anything, I have to assume you are asking your question in the wrong place. I suggest you direct your question to whoever is sending you the bills. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:51, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

If you are referring to donations to the Wikimedia Foundation, you will need to direct your inquiry to them directly; you may email donate@wikimedia.org 331dot (talk) 14:58, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

New category 21st-century Mexican ceramists

I've created the page Category:21st-century Mexican ceramists (my first time creating a category) and I'm not sure I've done the parent categories correctly. The new category is not appearing as a subcategory on the pages for the parent categories. Feedback please? Thanks much. Monkeysoap (talk) 17:21, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Looks right to me, @Monkeysoap. You probably didn't wait for the parent categories to be updated. ColinFine (talk) 17:34, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Monkeysoap and ColinFine the coding error was adding colons to the categories. [[:Category:Mexican ceramists]] adds a link to the category, while [[Category:Mexican ceramists]] adds the page to the category. Generally, when I create a category, I try to copy the code from an existing category and adapt as needed. The text at Category:20th-century Mexican ceramists was {{Ceramists by nationality and century category header}}, so I copied that and it seemed to work. TSventon (talk) 17:39, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

@Monkeysoap: You used VisualEditor which has its own way of doing things. If you try to write wikitext then it often wants to display the wikitext instead of adding it as code. Click the menu icon ≡ in VisualEditor and select "Categories". But if you edit a category page then it's often best to look for a similar category and use the source editor to adapt the code. In this case it didn't even need adaptation but could be copied directly. {{Ceramists by nationality and century category header}} automatically gets the information it needs from the page name. Click a pencil icon at the top right to switch between VisualEditor and the source editor. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:29, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Easily check for links to disambiguation pages?

What's the easiest way to find check an article for outgoing wikilinks to disambiguation pages? (I am overhauling Hyperoctahedral group and see that one of my edits was tagged as adding a disambiguation link; I would like to find it, and any others that lurk.) --JBL (talk) 18:30, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

It does not work when you are currently editing the page, but at a glance (or before switching to edit modes) User:Anomie/linkclassifier script and stylesheet combined make disambiguation pages obvious by highlighting them with yellow. -- Reconrabbit 19:05, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

@JayBeeEll, @Reconrabbit: I use my account Preferences to display all links to disambiguation pages in orange; it's under Appearances in the Gadgets section. Bazza 7 (talk) 19:12, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Lovely, thank you both! --JBL (talk) 21:46, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

I need help because my Rainbow Six account is disabled and I can't play ranked matches.

I need help because my Rainbow Six account is disabled and I can't play ranked matches. ~2026-20761-22 (talk) 22:42, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, this is not a general help desk for the entire internet, just Wikipedia. I suggest you find a forum specifically for Rainbow Six. 331dot (talk) 22:46, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

How do I fix my signature?

I’ve inputted <span> style="color:#ffb6c1"-[[User:Coolgurl5555 | coolgurl5555]] 🩷 ([[User Talk:Coolgurl5555|talk]])([[user:Coolgurl5555/Guestbook|sign]])</span> <span> style="color:#bf73ea"(she/her)</span> with the intention of colour my pronouns differently from the rest of my signature. But, as you can see from my signature below, something’s very wrong. style="color:#ffb6c1"- coolgurl5555 🩷 (talk)(sign) style="color:#bf73ea"(she/her) 23:33, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

<span style="color:#ffb6c1">-[[User:Coolgurl5555 | coolgurl5555]] 🩷 ([[User Talk:Coolgurl5555|talk]])([[user:Coolgurl5555/Guestbook|sign]])</span> <span style="color:#bf73ea">(she/her)</span>

- coolgurl5555 🩷 (talk)(sign) (she/her)

—Trappist the monk (talk) 23:51, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! style="color:#ffb6c1"- coolgurl5555 🩷 (talk)(sign) style="color:#bf73ea"(she/her) 00:11, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Okay now a further question. How do I colour the links the same? - coolgurl5555 🩷 (talk)(sign) (she/her) 00:18, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

As Trappist the monk has shown, the style= should be inside the span tag, not just next to it. -- Reconrabbit 00:00, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you style="color:#ffb6c1"- coolgurl5555 🩷 (talk)(sign) style="color:#bf73ea"(she/her) 00:12, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

@Coolgurl5555: Hi! See Wikipedia:Signatures § Treat as wiki markup. There are a few things wrong with your markup:

Current: <span> style="color:#bf73ea"(she/her)</span>
Fixed:   <span style="color:#bf73ea">(she/her)</span>
You're immediately closing the span tag (with >), so the inline CSS aren't being applied. 

Current: <span> style="color:#ffb6c1"-[[User:Coolgurl5555 | coolgurl5555]]
Fixed:   -[[User:Coolgurl5555 |<span style="color:#ffb6c1">coolgurl5555</span>]]
You need an element with inline CSS inside the wikilink to override the "color" property that's applied to all <a> elements

Here's the final code with all that fixed (note: I only colored your username and pronouns, so it doesn't go over the 255-character limit for custom sig):

-[[User:Coolgurl5555|<span style="color:#ffb6c1">coolgurl5555</span>]] 🩷 ([[User Talk:Coolgurl5555|talk]])([[user:Coolgurl5555/Guestbook|sign]])</span> <span style="color:#bf73ea">(she/her)</span>

that renders as:

-coolgurl5555 🩷 (talk)(sign) (she/her). You definitely should pick another color for better contrast (see this). — DVRTed (Talk) 00:15, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Looking for a Date in Archived Project or Talk Pages

If I am looking for in the log of a noticeboard such as WP:ANI or WP:ANEW for an incident that occurred on a particular date, what is the simplest way to get to the right indexed archive of a board that has hundreds of pages of archives? Maybe I ought to know this as an experienced editor, but I don't. Maybe I knew some years ago and have forgotten, just like higher math.

That is, what is the quickest way to find the archive for WP:ANI or WP:ANEW for, say, 23 June 2023? Robert McClenon (talk) 23:49, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

The first thing I thought of was to type in "23 June 2023" to the "Search noticeboard archives" on the main page for ANI. This gave me the result of IncidentArchive1132 pretty fast. I don't know how you would do it for ANEW though, since looking for pages prefixed with a forward slash doesn't seem to work. -- Reconrabbit 00:05, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: I don't know which problem Reconrabbit refers to. The search on "23 June 2023" includes Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive469. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:11, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

For some reason I thought the 3rr archive was under /Edit warring, that's where I went wrong. -- Reconrabbit 01:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Well, that date was random, not one of the dates I am looking for. But the answer is simply to search for the date. There will always be a hit for ANI archives, and almost always for ANEW. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:41, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Another Search Question

First, where is the documentation for the Search feature? Second, if I want to search an archive for entries with both of two strings, is the AND operator recognized, or is there some other way to do an AND search? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:41, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

In plain text, Help:Searching; actual documentation is somewhere around mw:Help:CirrusSearch. Within the former page, H:BOOLEAN implies that all searches are implicitly done with every term connected by AND unless stated otherwise (OR, NOT...) If you go to Template:Administrators' noticeboard archives/Search and type in Baby Globe to the Incidents search bar, you'll get back every page in the Incidents archive that includes both the words Baby and Globe. -- Reconrabbit 03:50, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Draft:Joey Primiani

Requesting admin to restore blacklisted Draft:Joey Primiani. Jpblackofficial (talk) 01:44, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

It's not blacklisted; it's deleted in accordance with Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Joey Primiani. An editor could request undeletion at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Such a request would of course have to argued persuasively. That seems unlikely, so I'd suggest that you give up on Joey Primiani. -- Hoary (talk) 01:53, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

It actually is blacklisted, too. —Cryptic 02:18, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

It indeed is. I realized this less than a minute ago and was about to correct my misstatement, but you beat me to it. -- Hoary (talk) 02:21, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

WP:UPE? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:49, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

User:Pigsonthewing - It isn't UPE because it is autobiography. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:52, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Since when did WP:PAID exclude autobiography? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:23, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

I don't think that Joey is paying Joey to write Joey's article. Joey might be though, I don't know Joey. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 08:30, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

DonaldDeMaio

I'm confused about this website and need your help. I was trying to send a message to actor Michael York. Somehow I thought he could be reached through your website. Is this possible on this site? I thought I was doing the right thing but now I'm not sure. Thank you for your help. DonaldDeMaio (talk) 18:30, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

This is an online encyclopaedia, not a means of communication with the subjects of articles. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:39, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Many of our articles, particularly ones about companies, include email or website addresses for their subjects, often in the Infoboxes usually found at the top right of the article.

It happens that Michael York's article infobox contains a website address. You might be able to contact him (likely indirectly, via an agent or other associate), using that, but you would not be doing so 'through' Wikipedia. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 23:15, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately the linked website seems to have been usurped. TSventon (talk) 23:20, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

This claims to be "the official [Facebook] page of Actor [sic] Michael York". Whether or not it is is beyond my expertise. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:48, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Request to change the name in Wikipedia

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Please change the name and respectfully mention the correct name of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. ~2026-20728-50 (talk) 06:58, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

This is mentioned at Talk:Shivaji, where it says in the FAQ that " Per WP:Honorifics and WP:Commonname, in Wikipedia, we refer to people by their commonly used name in the cited academic sources."--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:09, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

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Spotting vandalism

Hey, I'm finding vandalism very hard to spot on Special:RecentChanges. I have to wait until I can hit 'refresh' again, and usually nothing is vandalism. Is there an easier way to do this? As lately I am using Twinkle a lot. Thanks. Fijimeddars (talk) 12:26, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Isn't the absence of vandalism a good thing? AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:31, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Of course, I was just asking if there was an easier way to spot vandalism. Fijimeddars (talk) 12:33, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

In the search filters, you can set it to only flag edits that are likely problematic, very likely problematic etc. Play around with those until you find a balance you like. Athanelar (talk) 01:30, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Italics for royal styles/titles etc in articles?

Is there any guidance in the Manual of Style that says royal styles/titles etc such as "His Majesty", "Her Majesty", or "His Royal Highness" should be italicised? I've seen italics used on various royal pages for these, but I can't find anything in MOS:ITALIC that supports doing so, so I'm wondering whether I'm looking in the wrong place. ItsShandog (talk) 07:49, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

I can't imagine why those should be italicized (or even italicised). I've never seen it in the "real world", so why should it be adopted here? Clarityfiend (talk) 09:41, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

I was wondering about that. I've seen it on so many royal pages that I assumed it was the norm, but I wasn't sure why. I think editors are doing it to separate the title from the rest of the sentence so it doesn't blend in, but I always thought titles should either be quoted or just integrated into the sentence. So I wasn't sure what the correct approach was when editing them. ItsShandog (talk) 09:56, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Could you bring up a couple examples of this happening? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 10:06, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Yes, if you look at Queen Victoria's page in the titles section at the bottom, "Her Royal Highness" is in italics, and on the Queen Mother's page, if you look in the marriage section, that is also in italics. ItsShandog (talk) 11:08, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

More examples are: Prince Albert, Princess Helena of the United Kingdom, Princess Louise, Duchess of Argyll in the titles section's. ItsShandog (talk) 11:13, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

@ItsShandog: That's likely covered by MOS:WORDSASWORDS. Bazza 7 (talk) 12:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Yes, please post an example link from the beginning another time so we know what the post is about. Our edit notice also asks for it twice. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:39, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

I'll make sure to do that next time — my apologies. I'm still a bit confused about the MOS:WORDSAWORDS point, though. Does the guideline the previous editor mentioned actually apply here? I've read it, but I'm not sure whether it's relevant in this situation. ItsShandog (talk) 19:44, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

It sounds relevant to me. I suppose it could be discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:04, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

@ItsShandog: I suggested that because the text is discussing the application of those words for a specific purpose. It's similar to, for example, writing that the name for a medical expert is doctor. If you really don't like the styling, then use double quotes, although I think they add clutter. Bazza 7 (talk) 21:49, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

I definitely get your point, and you're probably right. I'm just trying to get a broader consensus because some people will agree and others will disagree. With a clearer consensus, it's easier to decide what works best. ItsShandog (talk) 09:17, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

@ItsShandog: The Help Desk isn't really, at least in my opinion, a good place for a detailed discussion about this. You'd probably be much better off discussing this at WT:MOSTEXT since that's the talk page corresponding to MOS:ITALICS. You could try WT:ROYALTY (which you seem to have already done); however, that's a WikiProject talk pae per se, and what's decided there might be deemed a WP:LOCALCON. So, it's best, again in my opinion, to move (using Template:Moved discussion to and Template:Moved discussion from) this discussion from this page to the community's main guideline talk for itailics. You can always use Template:Please see on other relevant talk pages to make others aware of the discussion. What you really should try to avoid doing is discussing this on multiple talk pages simultaneously because that just leads to fragmentation as well as possible confusion and redundancy: it also will archiving for future reference a pain. Just pick one place (other than the Help Desk) to discuss things and direct everyone there. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:05, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Help with article update

I can't remember or discover the name of the template that asks for editing help on an article. I just added a note to Talk:Ohio_State_University_abuse_scandal but I didn't know how to draw editor help there. Thanks. David10244 (talk) 01:01, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

{{Help me}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:48, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing Thanks! David10244 (talk) 15:02, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Request to review the Xiaomi MiMo article

Hi, I created the Xiaomi MiMo article a few weeks ago. I have enlarged the article and cited the information with reliable sources. But, still no new page reviewer visited the article. So, now I'm looking for a review to ensure it meets notability standards and to have it patrolled. Could someone take a look? AST14(talk) 12:42, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Is there a particular need for you to have a speedy patrol of the article?

Asking for this to occur isn't likely to speed up this volunteer-run process, where people do what they can, when they can. The article is in the New Pages Patrol queue. Even if it isn't reviewed, it will be automatically marked as reviewed after a time(60 days, I think, but I'm not certain) 331dot (talk) 12:49, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

90 days is the default. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:08, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

The article looks ok, but WP:NPP says "There is a very large articles backlog."--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:54, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Climate data for cities and towns

Hello,

I was looking at the Wikipedia page for the village of Acme, and noticed that the climate data is from the 1961-1990 data range (dead link but citation info). For Acme specifically, more recent climate data is not avalible, but when it is for other areas, should it be used? Is there a specific reason 1961-1990 is used?

Many Thanks
Napets007 05:06, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Aren't you 3 days late with this query? {The poster formerly known as 87.981.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 14:48, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello,

I'm not sure what you mean, can you please elaborate?

Napets007 02:37, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

I don't know if they're referring to April Fools' Day, but @Napets007:, to answer your question, see Climatological normal. Weather box editors who use climate normals try to use the most recent one possible, but sometimes climate data isn't updated for a while so the 1961–1990 values may be used when newer ones are available. Graham87 (talk) 08:06, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello,

This is helpful, thanks for your help! That answers my question.

Best Wishes,
Napets007 17:15, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

When can I remove "This section needs expansion." tag?

The specific article is Allens Grove Township, Mason County, Illinois which I found a source and added data into. I edited it because it appeared as a suggestion for me to edit. Sheep87654 (talk) 17:17, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

@Sheep87654 it is up to your discretion if you believe the issue is addressed. I would say it is expanded and can be removed here, however further improvements can be made. For example WP:Inline Citations and using WP:NOTES to clarify data methodology. Right now I don't know what year the census data is from. For a writing style, look at Havana, Illinois § Demographics which is written in more encyclopedic prose format. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 18:49, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Is removing warnings allowed?

I've noticed several anonymous users (won't name names (if you can even call them names) but I can provide one if needed) that have removed warnings from their talk pages, likely to hide their prior behaviour whilst continuing it. Was just wondering if this is something that should be reverted or left as is. Signed, SleepyRedHair. (talk - contribs) 18:22, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

It's not only allowed, it's evidence that they've read the warnings. Wikipedia:User pages#Removal of comments, notices, and warnings. —Cryptic 18:33, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for answering, I'll keep this in mind in future. Signed, SleepyRedHair. (talk - contribs) 18:38, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

It's rather like pleading the fifth. Officially, we consider it confirmation that they've read and acknowledged the warning, and we can't treat it as adversarial. Unofficially, context is important. A user who is blanking warnings while continuing their problematic behaviour is obviously not reading and acknowledging the warnings. Athanelar (talk) 18:48, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Well, among other things, it definitively rules out a WP:THEYCANTHEARYOU scenario. There's plenty of situations where I'd warn again if someone might not have seen a previous warning, but block if I was certain they had and did whatever-it-was again anyway. —Cryptic 19:42, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

United States Post Office (Kalaupapa, Hawaii)

Does anyone know why the "Leper Colony Post Office – United States Postal Inspection Service" reference at United States Post Office (Kalaupapa, Hawaii) is not displaying as an in-line reference? --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:16, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Fixed. You were missing the <ref> and </ref> tags. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 22:21, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

@JohnLaurens333:, Thanks! --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:22, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Would a local events article be a good source for the name of a pond?

The source we're debating about is Valentine's Day and Galentine's Day activities in Dallas Fort Worth, Texas by Dallas News, which claims a particular pond is called Vasil Levski Pond. This fact has been added to and removed from Vasil Levski's page, and it is now a talk page issue. We can't seem to find any stronger sources or alternate names, so I am asking here. This is a fact check, not a dispute resolution. Thanks in advance. SenshiSun (talk) 14:20, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

The place for fact checking is on the article's talk page.

If that's not getting enough attention, link to the talk page discussion from a neutrally-worded announcement, on, say, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Texas, or ask at WP:RSN. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:57, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. SenshiSun (talk) 23:39, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

AELECT

WP:AELECT

I am not new editor. I found out this new thing in WP:RFA. I didn't see this in past. Can anyone tell me why this was created along with RFA.

I think another new thing like Administrator Recall is created.

I left Wikipedia in 2018. ~2026-21066-86 (talk) 04:25, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

It was created to provide an alternative and parallel pathway to the administrator tools that is less contentious and stressful for all involved. 331dot (talk) 08:57, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Incorrect data update on DFCC Bank PLC

Hi DFCC Bank data is as of year 2022 where as we are now in year 2026 and accounts and annual report as of 31.12.2025 have been published

Please check and advise how the new information can be updated since whats here is in correct thank you and can lead to wrong citations by LLM Models

https://dfcc2025.annualreports.lk/ , https://www.dfcc.lk/Investor/Reports/annual-reports-2, https://cdn.cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/379_1769050371420.12.2025.pdf

Thanks Dinesh Dineshje (talk) 05:35, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

If you are referring to DFCC Bank, you may use the edit request wizard to propose changes to that article, which will appear on Talk:DFCC Bank.

If you are associated with the bank, that needs to be disclosed, see conflict of interest and paid editing("paid editing" in this context includes employment). 331dot (talk) 08:55, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Noted with thanks yes i am VP / Head of Digital Marketing and an employee of the bank, since Wikipedia content gets cited by LLMs it's my responsibility to ensure all content online are accurate and not misleading.

Rgds

Dinesh Dineshje (talk) 09:52, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

I will provide you with more specific instructions on your user talk page(User talk:Dineshje). 331dot (talk) 10:07, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Please Edit page of Jolene Marie Rontisulu

Please Edit page of Jolene Marie Rontisulu on part : Rotinsulu works together with Ministry of Education and Culture of Indonesia, build a local NGO "Rumah Karya Sahabat Anak Grogol", a school that provides free education for the homeless and street children in Grogol District, Jakarta. The part is hoax. You can crosschecked on the website of Sahabat Anak / Rumah KArya Sahabat Anak Grogol. there is not name of Jolene Marie Rontisulu as the board of the NGO. and as for the article mentioned in the wikipedia link of the person,there is not the article proven (evidence) about her past of Sahabat Anak Grogol (28) (29) .

Please help us to edit Please Edit page of Jolene_Marie_Rontisulu .

rgds,

Frisca Hutagalung

(Secretary of Board of Yayasan Sahabat Anak) ~2026-21352-15 (talk) 11:33, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-21352-15.

I have removed the claim from Jolene Marie Rotinsulu, because the sources cited to verify the claim do not say anything about it.

Normally, the talk page of the article (in this case Talk:Jolene Marie Rotinsulu) is a better place to request a change.

Apologies - I've just seen that you did make this request on the talk page last week, and nobody has responded. ColinFine (talk) 13:12, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Moving assessment

Hello, I want to move Archibald Lake Wilderness Area into C-class. Can I move it, if it meets the criteria for C class? Versions111 (talk • contribs) 14:18, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Done, using Rater; but yes you can do that, too. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:49, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

@Versions111 See WP:ASSESS for the rating guidance, if you haven't already read that. We don't usually use the word "move" in this context: that tends to be the jargon for retitling articles. (See WP:MOVE). I took a look at the article and thought it might be sensible to delete File:Map_of_Archibald_Lake_Wilderness_Area.jpg, which IMO doesn't add much from what is already in the infobox. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:47, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Inadvertently published page after moving it from sandbox to draft

Hello, I am in the middle of editing an article and thought I could continue to do so by moving it from my user/sandbox page to draft mode. I never intended to submit the article for review, yet somehow this happened on accident. I've read and followed instructions on how to move the article back to my user/sandbox page. Is this possible? I don't see it yet and don't know if it takes time for this to be approved/appear or if I'm unable to do so. I just want to keep editing it, but privately. Thank you for your help! Lally MM (talk) 02:22, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

@Lally MM: Your latest move was to User:Lally MM/sandbox/Husam M. Alshareef draft. That's allowed but I have moved it to User:Lally MM/sandbox which is apparently what you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:07, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Lally MM (talk) 20:08, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

"Wikipedia Contributors": Scam Operation?

I have in the last year received three letters from three self-appointed "Wikipedia Contributors." The letters bear an uncanny resemblance to one another.

When I received the first letter last August, I assumed, as I was meant to, that it came from Wikipedia itself. The writer, one "Jonah Eric," enlightened me. I learned that he would prepare a Wikipedia page for the modest fee of $850. The cost of the page plus two months maintenance was $1050, and "optional ongoing maintenance [was] also available at $150/month or $1500/year." I turned him down saying I had no interest in paying someone to create a Wikipedia page for me. Last October I received a letter in many way similar to "Eric's" from one "David Williams." And a few days ago, yet another, this from one "Paul Martin."

It's noteworthy that in addition to the similar content, none of the "Wikipedia Contributors" had information about their business. None gave a phone number or an address.

I wrote Martin yesterday noting the curious similarity between all three letters. So far no reply.

I have long been a supporter of Wikipedia. It has been an invaluable resource for research. I give monthly to keep it going. But I have never felt a pressing need to have a Wikipedia page of my own.

I wonder if others have received emails of this sort or have fallen for a "Wikipedia Contributor" pitch?

Alan Wallach Axwall491 (talk) 14:26, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Yes, please read the scam warning. The people writing those messages just want your money. A Wikipedia article is not necessarily something to desire anyway. If you weren't concerned about having one before, don't be now. 331dot (talk) 14:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. My standard reply is that I feel no need for a Wikipedia page: if anyone is interested in my work, they can easily find me by googling my name. Axwall491 (talk) 01:28, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'm sure they have, or these scammers wouldn't still be in business. One possibility is that these three are indeed the same person, or the same organisation. Another is that your address is on a list of "people potentially interested in an email article about them", that's sold to the scammers. Anyway, I recommend ignoring all such emails. Maproom (talk) 14:45, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. My impression as well. I do write replies rejecting their offer to create a Wikipedia page. The fact is, I feel no need for one. Axwall491 (talk) 01:32, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

In addition to what the others have said, please forward these email conversations to paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org so that appropriate action can be taken. Athanelar (talk) 16:52, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. I will forward them. Axwall491 (talk) 01:29, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

How i can upload my submission

How i can upload my submission Ruth Sebatindira SC (talk) 02:32, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

(i) Are you, Ruth Sebatindira SC, asking about the article Ruth Sebatindira (which you have already edited)? (ii) Are you Ruth Sebatindira, or working (or interning) for her? (iii) "Upload" from what? (An MS Word file?) -- Hoary (talk) 04:14, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

How do I cite information?

I'm trying to add information to multiple articles like, HMS Cruizer (1797), USS Constitution (the 'Old Ironsides' one), and HMS Undaunted (1807). But I can't/don't know how to cite information I've found on the internet. ~2026-21393-92 (talk) 01:31, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello. WP:CITE will be helpful in answering your questions. Lynch44 01:50, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Alright then.. ~2026-21393-92 (talk) 08:15, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-21393-92 Note also that "found on the internet" is not necessarily good enough, see WP:RS. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:47, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Oh, alright then.. ~2026-21393-92 (talk) 08:14, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Request to delete section of a page

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

---

Hi, our son Luca Cella Walker has been incorrectly added to the ‘Deaths linked to chatbots’ page. His death was NOT linked to a chatbot, he had already written his suicide notes and told his work that he wouldn’t be in, hours before he sent a single message to ChatGPT. It is very misleading to imply that his death was linked to a chatbot, in the same way that it was NOT linked to bicycles just because he left the house that morning on his bike.

We have tried to edit/delete the section but it keeps reappearing. Would it be possible for it to be removed, please? ~2026-20846-88 (talk) 07:57, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-20846-88, I have asked the other editors to comment at the discussion page for that article. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 08:56, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

What links here, minus navboxes

Is it possible to see which pages link directly to a page in their body text, excluding links in navboxes and other templates? "Hide transclusions" doesn't seem to work. Thanks! Helpful Cat🐈(talk) 14:29, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

@Helpful Cat: Yes there is! You need to install User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js - follow the instructions there. I find it incredibly helpful. DuncanHill (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! That's exactly what I was looking for :) Helpful Cat🐈(talk) 15:05, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Restoring archived content

In what appears to be a well-intentioned edit to Talk:In Memory of Theo Faiss, Edward056686 recently archived that page's three sections to the newly created page Talk:In Memory of Theo Faiss/Archive 1. I don't see the need for this; per Help:Archiving a talk page, posts on talk pages are to be archived when the talk page becomes too large, which was not the case here. In addition, because there's no link from the talk page to the archive page, someone looking at the talk page would not know that there were, in fact, archived discussions.

That being said, I would like to undo this edit, but (because there is now a new archive page) it is not a one-step process. I think the best way is to manually undo the edit deleting the sections from the talk page, and then request that the archive page be deleted. Does that sound correct to others? Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 17:20, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: I think that's a good idea, I took those steps to correct it. Edward056686 (talk) 17:24, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, Edward056686! Appreciate it. And even if it ended up being a mistake, thanks wanting to improve the page in the first place. --Usernameunique (talk) 17:29, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

How to keep infobox and images from overwriting article text?

The article Toyota NZ engine has a few green "Application:" bars, which are supposed to show the particular cars that used a version of this engine. However, the "show" link at the right end of the "Application:" bar is covered up, for me, by either the infobox or the images, for at least the 1NZ-FXE, 1NZ-FE, and 1NZ-FE Turbo variants - it's not possible to click on the "show" link. For me, at least, the "Application:" bar for the 2NZ-FE is OK and clickable. This is with both the Vector 2022 and Vector 2010 layouts.

Is there some kind of formatting that can prevent the infobox or images from overwriting the "show" link in the "Application:" bars?

Thanks! ~2026-21338-57 (talk) 04:56, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

I have removed the bars. Article content should not be hidden. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:38, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it! (Same person, new temp account.) ~2026-21538-53 (talk) 18:31, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

How to remove a previous (unused) account name?

Long ago, I opened an account with name (SteveCMYK), but did not post. Now, I have submitted an article for approval with a different name (WMsteve). When I log-in, it goes to the old name. How do I fix this to go to the new name? SteveCMYK (talk) 14:58, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

SteveCMYK, your browser probably remembers your new account name. If you want to log in as WMsteve, type or copy WMsteve into the user name box when you log in. TSventon (talk) 15:21, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks..but, when I click the Wikipedia page for login, it does not replay with an open user name box, but automatically goes to the wrong (old) address??? Any suggestion? Again, thanks. Steve SteveCMYK (talk) 15:55, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

@SteveCMYK: log out, clear your browser cookies, and try logging back in. ltbdl (pop) 16:02, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Specifically, clear all cookies from Wikipedia and Wikimedia domains. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:38, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you..done..all good! WMsteve (talk) 18:55, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

place to ask about problem with other language Wikipeadia

ok so I don't speak the Navajo language but sometimes I go on it's Wikipedia for fun and I noticed that it's main page (nv:Íiyisíí Naaltsoos) only links to the main page of English and Spanish does someone now where I would ask why this is our how to fix it/request a fix Skeletons are the axiom (talk) 18:05, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Not a problem; deliberate. The source code for the main page says not to add interlanguage links and it's using the {{noexternallanglinks}} magic word, which suppresses automatic inclusion of interlanguage links via Wikidata. - Purplewowies (talk) 18:53, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

People at WP:VPT will often kindly help out with technical matters for Wikimedia projects that don't have an equivalent page.

Otherwise there's Meta wiki. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:19, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

@Skeletons are the axiom: It has been deliberately limited to English and Spanish since 2012. However, it may be an error that they don't have a link to the complete list at meta:List of Wikipedias. https://nv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8Diyis%C3%AD%C3%AD_Naaltsoos?useskin=vector shows such a link at the bottom of the left pane in the former default skin Vector legacy. It's added with code at https://nv.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js#L-533. The code doesn't work in the current default skin Vector 2022. There are three maintainers listed at the code but none of them have an account at the wiki which may have copied the code from another wiki. Maybe AzaToth can comment on it. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:52, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Aerial Lift Bridge

Special:Diff/1347680352

I just added a citation - it's #11 - for the first time, but it produced a Missing or empty |title= message. I have not been able to figure out how to add the title of the article, which is "Short Cuts: Why do horn signals vary when boats pass under Aerial Lift Bridge? - Duluth News Tribune" Thanks for your help!

Thanks, Xtine66 (talk) 03:45, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Fixed. The same way you added |url= and then the url, you just needed to add |title= and then the title of the article. Hope this helped, let me know if you need clarification. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 04:24, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Archiving help

So I'm currently setting up auto-archiving for my user talk page, and this is the code I have set up right now, which hasn't been published yet: subst:Setup auto archiving|archives=yes|age=90|size=400K|minthreadsleft=4|minthreadstoarchive=4|header=|counter=0 If I go ahead and publish it, will it cause any problems? I have the DRN case status template on my talk page as well, so I don't know if those two will conflict or not TheClocksAlwaysTurn (The Clockworks) (contribs) 15:06, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

@TheClocksAlwaysTurn: As long as the archiving template is before the first heading, all should be well. The bot has archived several threads for you. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:07, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Mobile edit

Good evening. What's so special about mobile edits that they have their own tag? ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 18:57, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

We need to be able to distinguish them.

Since non-mobile edits came first, mobile gets the tag. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:23, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. And why do mobile web edits have their own? ~2026-24671-3 (talk) 21:58, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia appears differently to mobile users, so the edits they make may not take into account the full desktop version. 331dot (talk) 21:59, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-24671-3, one important distinction is that mobile users may not receive notifications, and may be unaware of talk-page discussions. See WP:CANTHEARUS. ColinFine (talk) 10:07, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

I Can't Lose

Hello everyone. Could someone please move I Can't Lose to I Can't Lose (Mark Ronson song)? There is also an article at I Can't Lose (song), which would in turn need to be moved to I Can't Lose (Jonas Brothers song) to distinguish between the two songs. ~2026-21567-67 (talk) 10:44, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

This would need to be requested at Requested Moves after you obtain a consensus on the article talk page that this move is needed. 331dot (talk) 10:49, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

@331dot Thank you for your kind suggestion. I have submitted a move request on the article's talk page. ~2026-21561-86 (talk) 11:08, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Problematic link in the Book Sources page

Hey. In looking through the book source search page Book sources - Wikipedia I found a link, which does not currently lead to anything realted to catalogue search. The problematic link is the link for the Helsinki University of Technology library catalogue "Find this book" link. The link leads to a Linneanet casino page. The university itself has also not been in operation since 2011. I am unable to fix this issue, but hope that someone that can is reachable through this venue or someone will direct me to the proper venue. What should be done, if anything? Finfixer (talk) 08:36, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

The exact same Linneanet issue is also present in the catalogue links for the Helsinki School of Economics, University Jyväskylä, University of Tampere, University of Turku, and Tampere University of Technology (university also no longer exists). Furthermore the link for the Piki verkkokirjasto seems to be in general broken. Finfixer (talk) 08:42, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

@Finfixer: You can post to Wikipedia talk:Book sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:40, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Removed (you may need to purge your browser's cache to see the effect). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:37, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

How long for article approvals?

Hello, I have updated an article that I have written and it has been over 2 months, with no updates. I want to make sure the edit is still there and will be looked at? Thanks LauravAugust (talk) 15:37, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Your draft is still submitted and pending. We cannot guarantee any time frame for a review, the 2 months is an estimate(hence the "and more" added to it). Please continue to be patient. 331dot (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Middle of the road

I have a question about the page titles related to Middle of the road. The base title Middle of the road (music) seems somewhat ambiguous, since Middle of the Road (band) is also in the music field. Would it make sense to move Middle of the road (music) to something more specific, such as Middle of the road (radio format), to avoid ambiguity? I’d appreciate your thoughts, thanks. ~2026-21177-26 (talk) 16:43, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

I don't think so. (Others may differ.) MOR music is MOR whether or not you're hearing it on the radio. In any case querying 'Middle of the road' with no qualifier brings up the disambiguation page which clarifies everything. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 18:24, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

I think that "Middle of the road (radio format) is an excellent rename target for that article. Using just "music" is not as helpful because "music" has many different meanings. Yes, MOR is clear when you are listening to it, but not so much when you are reading an encyclopedia. Especially if you are listening to heavy metal at the time. (Kidding.) David10244 (talk) 02:33, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Program

Hello Team, I hope you’re doing well. I built a small desktop tool for browsing Wikimedia XML archives, downloading full archives or selected pages, and opening pages locally as HTML. The current working title is Wiki Archive Navigator. I’d like to donate this project to Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. To the extent I own the materials I created for it, I hereby assign and transfer to Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. all of my right, title, and interest in the original source code and related project materials, including the application code, scripts, UI work, packaging/build files, and documentation. My intent is that Wikimedia may use it however you wish: review it, modify it, relicense it, redistribute it, commercialize it, give it away, incorporate parts of it into other projects, or choose not to use it at all. No payment is expected or required. This email is intended to serve as my written confirmation of that transfer. This assignment is meant to cover the original work I created for the project. Any third-party libraries, trademarks, or assets remain subject to their own existing terms. I’m sharing it in support of the work you do, and I’d be glad for the team to use whatever parts are helpful. I’ve attached the current source package and related files for review. If your legal or engineering team would prefer a separate assignment or release document, I’m happy to sign that as well. https://github.com/theJesterWins/WikiArchiveNavigator.git Thank you for everything you do. Warm regards, James Saylor ~2026-21656-96 (talk) 19:24, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-21656-96: (almost) all code by the wikimedia foundation is licensed under GPL-2.0-or-later. if you wish to give this project to the wikimedia foundation, simply license it under the same license, as the result will be the same.

additionally, this is the english wikipedia's help desk, where questions are answered by volunteers and not by employees of the wikimedia foundation. if you wish to contact them directly, use one of the avenues listed in https://wikimediafoundation.org/contact/. ltbdl (jump) 03:36, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Portal images

How do you change portal images/icons? Helper201 (talk) 20:55, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

@Helper201: Post your request at Template talk:Portal. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:45, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Sustained coverage of an event needed for inclusion?

One article I edited had its content removed for, among a list of other reasons, a lack of "sustained coverage". The topic had been covered by at least 3 major news outlets in Australia multiple times from a period of about 2 months, yet had only a few mentions in from then to the present. A few editors have stated this is a made-up criteria for inclusion. Thoughts? JPHC2003 (talk) 07:45, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Which article? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:53, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Susan Abulhawa. JPHC2003 (talk) 09:43, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

This appears to be a routine content dispute; follow our dispute resolution procedure. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:10, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

I now see there is an ongoing RfC, at Talk:Susan Abulhawa#Request for comment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:13, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Indeed, if this is about including content into an existing article then SUSTAINED doesn't apply, so it's just a matter of gaining consensus for the changes, which seems to already be in progress Athanelar (talk) 10:28, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

It's certainly not a made up criterion, see WP:SUSTAINED and WP:LASTING. The former link states Brief bursts of news coverage may not sufficiently demonstrate notability. Athanelar (talk) 09:43, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

But this is not a question of notability. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:10, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Page name update

The title of the following page should be "Edith S. Watson" not "Edith Watson"

Edith Watson

this is how Watson professionally referred to herself, with her middle initially always, so it's in keeping with how she asked to be credited while she was alive. Please see cited reference

Rooney, Frances (1996). Working Light: The Wandering Life of Photographer Edith S. Watson. Ottawa, Canada: Carleton University Press. ISBN 9780886292737

Thank you!

Theothervicwells (talk) 14:44, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

How people identify themselves is generally irrelevant to how we identify them. Per WP:COMMONNAME, we refer to the subjects of our articles by the way they're generally referred to in the sources which discuss them. That said, the sources here do seem to mostly use Edith S. Watson, so I've gone ahead and carried out the move. Athanelar (talk) 16:05, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Incorrect flag being show for Patna State while using Template:Flag country

Hello all, I was recently reading the Salute state article, I saw that the flag shown for Patna State was incorrect. Using {{flag country|Patna State}} shows the following, Patna, which is incorrect. How do I help in editing this? Rohitm2000 (talk) 14:08, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

@Rohitm2000: I have added File:Patnaflag.jpg to {{Country data Patna State}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:04, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help :) Rohitm2000 (talk) 17:53, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Cannot log into known account

I cannot log in to my account. I know my username but the forgotten password option does not work. A help desk user says "create a new account" but I be don't want to lose my edits. How can I resolve this? ~2026-22025-32 (talk) 18:25, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-22025-32: Hi, welcome to the Help Desk! You could try editing both accounts' userpage using wikilinking to connect them publicly, e.g. "My new account is here" and "My old account is here" respectively. Fractal-Dreamz ✯ 18:40, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

will I be able to link to the old without my password? ~2026-22025-32 (talk) 19:40, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

You don't need to know a password to create a link; even you could create a link to my user talk page by typing [[User talk:331dot|my user talk page]]. 331dot (talk) 19:44, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Getting images to appear in the right section

I've just started a userspace draft, and I don't know what I'm missing, but I can't get the images to stay in the sections where I put them (the election results graphic under Background, and the high-five image under Inauguration but before Speech). Instead, they cluster at the bottom of the page. What am I doing wrong? Is this because the images are being pushed down by the infobox and sidebar, even though I put them on the left? (If so, is there anything else I can do?) Thanks to anyone who has time to take a look. Helpful Cat🐈(talk) 11:27, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

It looks like there are too many images for the amount of text.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:55, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, in that case it should fix itself as I write more text. Helpful Cat🐈(talk) 12:00, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

@Helpful Cat: The left-aligned images were indeed pushed down by the right-aligned elements. I have added a fix from Template:Stack. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:49, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, that's amazing! Helpful Cat🐈(talk) 22:28, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Robert plant footballer

Hi there I am Robert plant footballer and I have found a page on my career on something called wiki Amazon search however to have a couple of questions. 1- my birthday is wrong, how can it be changed? 2- how do I get this page uploaded onto your site as it’s about me?

thanks rob ~2026-21920-79 (talk) 22:56, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

This is the help page for the English-language Wikipedia only. We have no article on you, and have no control over what is written about you elsewhere. Sorry. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:00, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks Andy, ok so would the article need to get published on your site, would someone have to specifically write it up on your site for it to show on there?

id prefer it on wiki than on amazon to be honest ~2026-21920-79 (talk) 23:04, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

In order to qualify for an article here, we'd need to see significant coverage in published reliable sources which indicated that you met our notability guidelines: e.g. Wikipedia:Notability (sports). You should also see Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. If you do qualify for an article, it will have to be written from scratch. We discourage, but don't absolutely forbid writing an article about yourself, but otherwise you could try adding your name to the list at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Sports/Association football (soccer): we are volunteers here though, and there is no guarantee that an article will ever get written. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:18, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

List TAs on an IP/range?

I recently got TAIV and the docs on mediawiki.org are somewhat unsatisfactory. Is there some way to list all TAs associated with a given IP/range? I can view contributions from an IP, and edit filter hits, but that won't show me accounts with only deleted contribs, or accounts that tripped the spam blacklist, or performed a null edit, or accounts whose edits are on another wiki. Just typing an IP range in Special:Log doesn't seem to work. lp0 on fire () 08:51, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Advice needed: expired RFC and how to proceed with infobox image dispute

I need some advice on what to do next about a continuing dispute on the content of the article Lion and Sun.

There has been a Request for Comment on the talk page of the article on what image to use in the infobox, historically attested design from the 1970s (standardized version), versus newer interpretations. The request for comment has now closed without a definite decision having been made.

A number of editors were involved in the debate and policies such as WP:WEIGHT, WP:RS, and WP:CIRCULAR were discussed. Nevertheless, there is still some confusion about how to apply these policies, and there has not yet been a neutral third party who has formally ended the debate.

My question is:

What is the correct procedure to go through next? Do I request a formal closing of the debate, re-list the RFC, or bring it before a dispute resolution forum?Shfarshid (talk) 12:55, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

If the RfC template has expired, you can list the RfC at WP:Closure requests and somebody will assess it and close it in due course. Athanelar (talk) 13:23, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Mishti clan

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Thanks, Thirahwal (talk) 01:55, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

The references, Thirahwal, are unusably vague, where (as in "local people informations") they don't suggest sources that are simply unusable in Wikipedia. (And the draft also has plenty of other, reference-unrelated problems.) Each cited source must be a published source. Details of publication provided by the draft/article must make it easy for a reader to look for the publication and (even if only in an unusually large reference library) to find the publication and within it to find the part that's cited. If you can base a draft (now at Draft:Mishti clan) on this subject on reliable, independent, informative sources, first wait until you are "extended-confirmed", and then work towards that direction. (Wikipedia has plenty of material telling you how to create references as well as to add markup for other purposes.) Good luck, and happy editing. But if you cannot, then stop. -- Hoary (talk) 04:06, 7 April 2026 (UTC) Amended -- Hoary (talk) 23:16, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

This editor shouldn't be working on that draft anyways, since it's a violation of WP:CT/SASG. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 12:16, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

True, Sarsenet. Apologies for my (major) oversight there. Thirahwal, I quote WP:User groups: A registered editor becomes "extended confirmed" automatically once the account has existed for at least 30 days and has made at least 500 edits. This user access right allows editors to edit and create pages that are under extended confirmed protection. And, as described in "WP:Contentious topics/South Asia", a page (whether a draft or an article) on this subject would be under extended confirmed protection. -- Hoary (talk) 23:16, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

@Hoary Another typo, I fear: "they don't suggest sources that are simply unusable in Wikipedia". "Don't" should be "do", or "unusable" should be changed. Cheers. David10244 (talk) 02:36, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

David10244, thank you for your attentiveness to my lumpish prose. Let me explain. A source described in full as "local people informations" is simply unusable in Wikipedia. And this isn't the only such reference. However, not all the references are to such obviously unusable sources. Those that are not -- example: "History of Orakzai, a book on orakzai tribes Historian" -- are unusably vague. And so I'll attempt to amend: The references, Thirahwal, are unusably vague, where they don't suggest sources (as in "local people informations") that are simply unusable in Wikipedia. (Although the draft has since been deleted, and thus the above would now have to be in the past tense rather than the present.) -- Hoary (talk) 21:51, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

@Hoary Right. So they DO suggest sources that are unusable in Wikipedia. Your note says they DON'T suggest sources that are unusable in Wikipedia.

I think the references do suggest sources that are unusable, and they don't suggest sources that are usable. Saying that the references don't suggest sources that are unusable seems wrong, like saying the references do suggest sources that are usable would also be wrong.

Unless I'm really confused! And yes, it's all past tense now. David10244 (talk) 14:14, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

@Thirahwal If you're carrying out the kind of original research which has you speaking to tribal elders and searching through historical records; don't write a Wikipedia article, write a book or get your research published in a journal. That will be a much better use of your time, and a much better way to present this new information to the world, because Wikipedia does not publish original research. Athanelar (talk) 13:53, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Najeem Usman Yasin

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Thanks, Royalesignature (talk). 11:53, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

You have |last=Editor_01. Either replace that with the last name of a human author, or remove it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:44, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

many thanks 😊 Royalesignature (talk). 16:09, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Motirola

it is hard for me digest anything good you say about members of this co.. When I have experienced a constant diet of abuse and anxiety around getting anything useful out of a deliberate effort to design what should be a slave into o cheeky nearly human monster,and master at telling lies And twisting ones writings into the opposite of WF what was wanted,intended, typed or spoken. ~2026-22014-80 (talk) 15:44, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Do you have a question about Wikipedia? 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 16:25, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

There appears to be no such company as 'Motirola' findable by internet search.

If you meant 'Motorola', the original Motorola company no longer exists, and several other entities use or incorporate the word in their names: see Motorola (disambiguation). If you are referring to one of these, or one of their products, please be more specific.

Wikipedia itself never says (or never should say) anything 'good' (or 'bad) about any company (or any other subject), we aim only to summarise what other, 'reliable sources' say, good and bad, in a balanced and neutral way. If you dispute what is said in a Wikipedia article, please provide sources that demonstrate how it is erroneous, preferably on the Talk page of the article in question. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-76101-8 (talk) 16:59, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Minor technical issue with new template

Genuinely small problem, but not sure where else to ask:
The recently-created Template:History of al-Maghrib, when added to articles, inserts an extra blank line in the body of an article where it's placed. For example, see top of the "History" section in Idrisid dynasty () or Zirid dynasty. I'm not very experienced with template parameters so I can't identify what's causing this in the template's source. Can you anyone more knowledgeable advise? Thanks, R Prazeres (talk) 19:31, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

@R Prazeres:  Done. Bazza 7 (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Great. Thanks for the quick fix! R Prazeres (talk) 19:37, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

nova manpower

nova manpower full cr ~2026-22101-91 (talk) 20:55, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

(Redacted) ~2026-22101-91 (talk) 21:05, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

yes ~2026-22101-91 (talk) 21:15, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Nova Manpower is a recruitment company in Singapore. But Wikipedia has no article about it. Do you have a question about Wikipedia? Maproom (talk) 21:20, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Pipped to the post

Recently I've created drafts in my userspace (2026 Laurence Olivier Awards, The Assembly) that are, after saving my first draft, rapidly developed in mainspace by other users, meaning I can't get credit for my work/feel like I've wasted my efforts. This could, of course, just be coincidence, but is still frustrating. Should I just skip the drafting process in future, and publish uncompleted articles straight to userspace, to avoid this? Max263 (talk • contribs) 21:49, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

I understand the frustration, ultimately the thing to understand is that we're all here to build an encyclopedia. Your goal should be for the best possible article to end up in mainspace, not for you to be able to get any credit for it. If you've spent a while working on it as a draft and then someone else makes it in mainspace; great, go ahead and merge your content into the mainspace article! Athanelar (talk) 22:05, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Unfair rejection of Draft:Shri 1008 Mallinath Digambar Jain Atishay Kshetra

Ritesh1008 (talk) 18:53, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Shri 1008 Mallinath Digambar Jain atishay kshetra, shiradshahapur.

What do you think was unfair about that draft getting rejected? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 18:56, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Ritesh1008 (talk) 19:02, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Any reason at all? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 19:07, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Ritesh1008 (talk) 19:10, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

If you're not willing to communicate your issue, then there's nothing we are able to do to help. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 19:17, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Ritesh1008 (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Are you having difficulty with the Reply function? You need to type what you want to say into the edit window. 331dot (talk) 19:27, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

I am sorry for the technical issues. My reasons for appeal are:

1. I cited the 1967 Maharashtra State Gazetteer (official source). 2. I uploaded original photographs to Commons to prove authenticity and human intent. 3. This is a significant Atishay Kshetra. 4. A permanent reject is too harsh; I request a chance to improve the draft. Please help. --Ritesh1008 (talk) 19:36, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Official sources are not independent and photographs do not enhance notability. Theroadislong (talk) 19:47, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

I understand the guidelines, but a 1967 Government Gazetteer is a secondary historical record, not a promotional piece. I am a new editor trying to preserve the history of a 300-year-old heritage site. If this draft is not suitable for English Wikipedia yet, can a senior editor please help me move it to Hindi Wikipedia or Marathi Wikipedia where its cultural significance is better understood? I don't want my hard work and original research to be deleted. --Ritesh1008 (talk) 19:54, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

You will need to log in to the Hindi Wikipedia or Marathi Wikipedia to do that and note that we don't publish " original research". Theroadislong (talk) 20:17, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Ritesh1008, Hindi Wikipedia's page about "original research" says that it's unwelcome at Hindi Wikipedia too. But some alternative outlet might take it. -- Hoary (talk) 01:28, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

The influence of inconsistent information on the authority of a source.

Is it sufficient grounds for expressing doubt about the use of even an authoritative source if the cited material contradicts either other materials on the authoritative resource or contains contradictory statements even within the same material? Should we ignore this in favor of a statement that suits us? Solaire the knight (talk) 17:49, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

This is covered properly in WP:DUE but in some cases you will have to say something to the effect of "Some sources say it's X, while others claim Y." where both are generally reliable sources. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 17:58, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm interested in situations where all of this occurs within the context of one or more materials from a single authoritative source. This is a very general example, but imagine if someone were to cite a material to support the claim "John was never married" that also, without any explanation, contained the phrase "John was buried next to his wife's grave." Solaire the knight (talk) 18:14, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

If one source says both those things, that might not be a reliable source. Or you might be misreading the source. Or there might be a synthesis you haven't considered eg the grave was dug in anticipation of him meeting a woman and falling in love, but it was never filled. But as that hypothetical grave digger should realise, doing all that work for a merely hypothetical wife just leaves you with a hole in the ground - so you could you give an actual, concrete, example of what you're talking about? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 18:21, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm talking about the situation with the numbering of Resident Evil games in secondary authoritative sources, where a number of quite authoritative sources either provide contradictory information within different materials, or even within the same one. For example, this source simultaneously expands the 8 games released at the time of publication by adding two more, while calling the official eighth game the eighth, although, given what was said earlier, it should have been considered the tenth. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:29, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Never in a million years would I have guessed that. Although I would say the Eurogamer source does say "eigth mainline game" which I would read as eigth, not including the Revelations spinoffs. Just like how F9 is the 9th mainline film in the Fast and Furious Franchise, meaning that it is the ninth - not including Hobbs and Shaw (which is the ninth installment of the franchise) - according to the ledes for those articles at least. So there's not a contradiction there, just some very specific language. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 18:53, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

We're not talking about Revelations, but Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica. Their events take place before the first game and after 2-3, so considering them as the mainline, The Village should be the 10th game. After all, that's eight numbered Biohazard games in existence at the time, plus the two mentioned above. So, recognizing Village as the eighth entry already violates the proposed list. Just like mentioning the standard game numbering in their other articles. Solaire the knight (talk) 19:00, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

I don't think that article considers Code Veronica to be mainline at all. So the contradiction is really in whether Zero (described as a prequel to RE) is considered mainline or not. If it is, then it is the 4th mainline game to be released And 4 is the 5th and 5 is the 6th etc making Village the 9th - purely in terms of release date, mind. If Zero is not mainline, then there's no contradiction that I can see. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 19:15, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

I apologize, but you've misunderstood the point of the argument. This isn't about release dates. It's about the mainline games. And the source cited cites them precisely as such, channeling the popular fandom idea that Zero and CV are fully-fledged mainline games because the former is a prequel, and the latter a reworked draft of the third game. Therefore, if you don't list Village as the ninth or tenth game, you remain faithful to the official/base chronology. Specifically, here's their quote, ignoring the Village designation as the eighth game in contrast:

"In total, there are 10 core Resident Evil games—along with the spin-off Revelations series and light gun games, including The Umbrella Chronicles. To help streamline this list, we'll focus on the mainline RE games and the Revelations games, which can easily be played on modern platforms"

This is the root of the problem. Capcom officially sees only nine numbered games in the series, including Requiem, while fans and a number of major gaming sites have previously (largely moving towards mentioning games as 1-9 entries in reviews or news afterwards) suggested 10 or even 12. This constantly sparks debate, one-sided edits, misunderstandings, and so on. Solaire the knight (talk) 19:23, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Maybe the fandom considers CV and Zero to be mainline, and maybe many sources to - but that one article in particular doesn't say so: it does say "we'll focus on the mainline RE games and the Revelations games" but doesn't say it wont mention any others. Bearing in mind I only learned that there's more than one RE game less than two hours ago, I am going purely by what the Eurogamer article actually says here - so I really don't see any contradiction within that one source. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 19:32, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

That's the problem: in context, they refer to these two games as mainline, since they first say they'll "focus on the mainline first," and then directly start the list with Zero and beyond. They even mention Revelations as the only spin-offs besides the mainline. They also describe CV as "an unnumbered, but mainline game." I tried to resolve this by suggesting both an original nomination and a general one based on release date or size, but as I mentioned above, it's too personal for me and other users due to fan stuff. The question would be different if the developers had stated their position directly and without redundant things, or if the secondary sources did not contradict themselves, but this is a vicious circle. Solaire the knight (talk) 19:38, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

So I'm hearing that there's an emotional load to this. Of course the games developers aren't under any particular obligation to provide a consistent position, in-universe canon changes all the time in every long running franchise I've ever heard of.

From what I can tell, there is a consistency about the cronology of events. Starting with Zero going on to Village - but it gets messy where you start saying "this is the fifth, sixth, seventh one", so maybe you could just leave that out? The story goes [events of Zero], [events of RE], [events of RE2]... everyone can agree on that? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 05:54, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

It's hard not to get emotional when users almost openly let you know that they consider debating with you a personal conflict and even respond to your decision to close the topic with similar comments. The chronology of events in this case is not an issue and is not up for debate. The issue is positioning, which for some reason has become too personal for many users, making attempts to collectively develop a consensus doomed to failure. Solaire the knight (talk) 06:05, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm sure it's possible to settle on a description that everyone agrees on. "[Title] is the X^th to be released in the series and the Y^th chapter of [whatever] Saga" would be do-able, surely? (this is how Star Wars movies are described, for instance).

If everyone is too het up about it, I'd suggest closing the thread and starting a WP:Request for Comment from uninvolved editors. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 06:23, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

I already proposed a similar compromise, but it was quickly rejected in an emotional tone. Thanks for the advice, though, but the thread was effectively closed this morning after a shaky another compromise and the deletion of the debatable text at all by a third user. Solaire the knight (talk) 06:26, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

I accidentaly uploaded a wrong image

I cant find it how do i delete it i'm so terribly sorry Yeahhellyeah (talk) 06:43, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

uploaded it to here not to commons Yeahhellyeah (talk) 06:43, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

nvm i got it Yeahhellyeah (talk) 06:50, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

I have deleted File:SKA-Neftyanik new.png. -- Hoary (talk) 07:19, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Saint Joan (play)

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The title you're looking for is: Saint Joan (TV Movie 1967)

Thanks, Jeffrey Massie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roscoe-Karns (talk • contribs) 06:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

References

I don't understand what you're asking for/about, Roscoe-Karns. Anyway in the edit to which you've pointed us, you added a link to IMDb, as a reference. But IMDb isn't a reliable source and thus shouldn't be cited as a reference. -- Hoary (talk) 07:26, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

A New combination word

I have a question about creating a new word. Now the word is a combination word of terms. Here it is, "IMPAX" & "IMPEX". Meaning "Import Export Taxes Fees changes as an Impact on the global economy due to the current Trump administration".

Example, instead of saying 'I couldn't afford to buy from the UK due to Import, Export, Taxes, Fees, changes as an Impact on the global economy due to the current Trump administration', you would say 'I couldn't afford to buy from the UK due to IMPEX'. Another example, 'the IMPAX is affecting my grocery prices'.

Would, how, could I create that on wikipedia? Thank you. Jay Jaypmcwilliams (talk) 13:06, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

You can't, see WP:MADEUP. Your word or acronym would need to receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources that it has entered general use. 331dot (talk) 13:10, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Template:TCMDb title

Template:TCMDb title gives this as an example:

* {{TCMDb title | 26660 | Screaming Eagles }}

• Screaming Eagles at the TCM Movie Database (archived)

...which should lead to the review on the following page. Or maybe not. See below.

[ www [dot] themoviedb [dot] org/movie/199627-screaming-eagles ]

..but it doesn't. It leads to an archive.org page that sort of works. If you click around you eventually reach

[ https://web.archive.org/web/20210126134518/https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/26660/screaming-eagles#overview ].

How do I list what I see at [ www [dot] themoviedb [dot] org/movie/295884-saving-christmas ] using the template?

Complicating things, I had to insert [dot]s in the above URLs because they triggered the blacklist, and Turner_Classic_Movies#TCMdb does not mention themoviedb [dot] org. Did I stumble across a fake site or a mirror?

Trying to use on Saving Christmas#External links.

--Guy Macon (talk) 23:12, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: TCMDb (Turner Classic Movies Database) is unrelated to TMDB (The Movie Database). Template:TCMDb title linked to TCMDb but it closed and the template was changed to link archived versions of the TCMDb pages. The unrelated TMDB website at themoviedb.org is still open but we don't allow links to it. It's blacklisted by the entry \bthemoviedb\.org\b in MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:06, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! Any idea how I could get Saving Christmas#External links to link to an archived version of the TCMDb page for that movie? --Guy Macon (talk) 01:51, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: Template:TCMDb title was updated to link an archive so the existing uses kept working. I'm not sure it's a good idea to add new uses when the real target site has closed. I think you would have to know the number assigned to the film by TCMDb. I don't know how to find it when the archive doesn't have the search features of the original site. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:45, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

OK. The Saving Christmas page can do without it. I am going to go to the Template:TCMDb title talk page and suggest that it be updated. I think we are through here. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:34, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Google

I searched Portapique RIver Wilderness Area in Google, but it doesn't work. I am certain that the article was reviewed. Versions111 (talk • contribs) 08:41, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

It takes time for search engines to index articles, even after they are formally reviewed. Wikipedia has no control over that once an article is reviewed by a new pages patroller. You'd have to contact Google to ask them about how their algorithms work. 331dot (talk) 10:02, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

@Versions111: Portapique River Wilderness Area has not been reviewed with the required process and does not allow search engine indexing. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:32, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

It has now been reviewed, at 11:24, 11 April 2026 (UTC). And it is already showing up for me on Google searches (don't know what it matters, exactly, however). Skynxnex (talk) 14:08, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on 1769 in Austria

Special:Diff/1348237717

Hello!

A bot flagged a post of mine with a "dates" error, I checked the article and tried to fix it but got the same flag.

Can anyone help?

Thanks, Postbrechtian (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

No punctuation; use only one of |date= (preferred) or |year= or |publication-date=.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:37, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Linking to a comment

By experimentation, I have learned that I can link to an existing talk space comment using either a wikilink or an external link. Where is the documentation for this feature? ―Mandruss ☎ 2¢. IMO. 04:52, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

@Mandruss: Do you mean Help:Diff#Linking to a diff? PrimeHunter (talk) 08:23, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

No, I mean this or this. ―Mandruss ☎ 2¢. IMO. 15:48, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Mandruss. I wondered if you meant that. See H:SECTIONLINK. --ColinFine (talk) 16:09, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

They are not section links. ―Mandruss ☎ 2¢. IMO. 16:21, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

@Mandruss: H:TALKLINK covers them! - Purplewowies (talk) 16:47, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

That's it, thanks. I often use these links to refer to comments within the same long thread. I've come to prefer the wikilink format to EL because it's cleaner. I'm wondering how to prevent such links from breaking when the thread is archived. Example at the beginning of this archived comment. ―Mandruss ☎ 2¢. IMO. 21:20, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

@Mandruss: The original link before archiving would have been Talk:Donald Trump#c-Mandruss-20250808093000-John_Bois-20250808052500 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Donald_Trump#c-Mandruss-20250808093000-John_Bois-20250808052500. Both still work for me in the sense that a box pops up at the top right with a link to the archived comment. It even works if the base page name has changed. Suppose for example that the post had originally been on Talk:Example at Talk:Example#c-Mandruss-20250808093000-John_Bois-20250808052500. The feature also exists for archived sections like Talk:Donald Trump#Trump–Epstein or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Donald_Trump#Trump%E2%80%93Epstein. Talk:Example#Trump–Epstein also works, but some section names will be too common for that. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:40, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

I was confused/misled by the Easter egg link in the pop-up, a problem that needs correcting (wrong venue, I know). Its linktext refers to a page, not an individual comment. So my link is only "half broken". ―Mandruss ☎ 2¢. IMO. 22:59, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Alternatively, Special:GoToComment/c-Mandruss-20250808093000-John_Bois-20250808052500, which immediately redirects to the talk page archive without a popup. OutsideNormality (talk) 16:17, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Wikitables breaking

Code

{| class="wikitable"
|+ My userboxes
|-
! {{User:HALCANTDOTHAT/Userboxes/MCR}} !! {{Apprentice Editor Userbox}} !! {{User:Goldenglove/Motleycrue}}
|-
| {{User:GreatLakesShips/Userboxes/Motörhead}} || {{User:Shadestar474/userbox/Riordanverse/MC}} || {{User copy edit}}
|-
| {{User:GreatLakesShips/Userboxes/Iron Maiden}} || {{User:UBX/Minecraft}} || {{User:Trilletrollet/Userboxes/Non-binary|enby}}
|-
| {{User:Edit Centric/UBX/ArmBears}} || {{User:Angry Red Hammer Guy/Userboxes/hex}} || {{User:Argyriou/Userboxen/procrastinate2}}
|-
| {{User:UBX/User black parade}} || {{User:UBX/greenday}} || {{User Linguistics Subject}}
|-
| {{User:UBX/WMUWSE}} || {{User The Number of the Beast}} || {{User:Glambert4688/userbox/In the End}}
|-
! {{User:Tezero/Userboxes/All Apologies}}
! {{User:Tezero/Userboxes/Don't Speak}}
! {{User You're Gonna Go Far, Kid}}
|}

Anyone know why the bottom of this table is breaking? I can’t seem to figure it out, but I’m not great with wikimarkup, so I could just be ignoring something really obvious. Thanks! Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} -⃝⃤ (they/he) 20:30, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

@Shadestar474: User:Tezero/Userboxes/All Apologies has bad code which interferes with placing cells on the same source line with || or !!. I have moved the cells to separate lines which is more stable. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:17, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Ah, I wouldn’t have thought of that. Thank you! Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} -⃝⃤ (they/he) 23:48, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Will my code work?

{{User:MiszaBot/config | algo = old(30d) | archive = User talk:Coolgurl5555/Archive %(counter)d | counter = 1 | maxarchivesize = 150K | archiveheader = {{Archive}} | minthreadstoarchive = 1 | minthreadsleft = 4 }}

Will this text work? I am skeptical of my abilities to properly understand code and thought I should inquire. - coolgurl5555 ✈︎ (she/her) ✈︎ 23:45, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

@Coolgurl5555: It looks OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:56, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Much appreciated. - coolgurl5555 ✈︎ (she/her) ✈︎ 23:58, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

plane crashes in Goose Bay, Labrador, Nfld

I was a Canadian Military person stationed in Goose Bay, Labrador in 1979 & 1980. There was a large map of Labrador on the Canadian Hanger wall - it took up the whole wall. On it were all the plane crashes around Goose Bay's side of the Mealy Mountains. There were 175 of them, civilian, military, private planes. It was in 1980 that the Germnn Air force first came to Goose Bay, not 1981. It was a squadron of F4 fantoms. There was a crash of one of the fantoms the summer of 1980. The planes were coming together in formation. at the end of the day to return to base. A the last F4 to join was coming in too fast and at the wrong angle. Rather than hitting the other planes causing multiple plane crashes, the pilot turned away. The bank was too steep and the pilot could not regain control and crashed in an unnamed lake which was then named Fantom Lake. The Pilot was found within 2-3 days and was identified by a ring on his L. ring finger. The search went on for another 8 days and was to be discontinued. On the last day, a diver found the navigator sitting in the rear seat. He was found when the diver touched the back of the helmet which was gone and so was the skull. The day the pilot was found, his first child was born. This was a gruesome search for the divers because the lake was dark, mirky and cold. The divers were searching by feel. It was a sad time for the 4 air forces present on the base - British, American, Canadian and German. I do not know what the names of the German soldiers. Gayle Malone (talk) 05:04, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Do you have a question?

If you have reliable published sources about the plane crashes, then it might merit its own standalone article, or at least be something that could be added to the existing article CFB Goose Bay. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 05:12, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Creating a new entry about a person

How do I go about adding a new entry? Ray Ison (talk) 01:15, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

see Help:Your first article. But note that attempting to create a new article without prior experience in more general Wikipedia editing is rarely successful. Any article is required to demonstrate that the subject meets our notability guidelines, as demonstrated through significant coverage in published reliable sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:25, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks - am not sure where that leaves me. R Ray Ison (talk) 01:56, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

You don't have to only write articles; most editors start with smaller edits, like fixing typos or adding citations, if that interests you. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (Ping me!) 04:23, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Ray Ison.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 10:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC)