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Article on talk page

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Hi, I've written a contribution on the talk page of the "J/Psi meson", namely "Theoretical interpretation of the J/Psi meson" on Febr.20, 2026. No other contributions or comments on this argument have been added. My question is simply when this contribution will be moved to the main page of the article. Thanks a lot. Mario Mario Tom Greco (talk) 11:40, 25 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Mario Tom Greco, you could move it to the article yourself, but if you do so as it stands, it will be reverted since it's pretty non-compliant and looks LLM-written. You will need to write in coherent sentences with properly formatted in-line references. What looks like just notes won't be accepted without you making it compliant and consistent with the rest of the article Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:53, 25 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
I've noticed that you have a conflict of interest, so you shouldn't in fact move it yourself. Clean it up and ping me when you think it's compliant, and I'll take a look Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:05, 25 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hi Jimfbleak, I've re-written my contribution to the "Theoretical interpretation of the J/psi meson" on the Talk page, following your suggestion. Please give a look and tell me if you could move it to the main page.
Best, Mario Mario Tom Greco (talk) 16:25, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for your answer, but what you mean by "looks LLM-written."? Mario Tom Greco (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Mario Tom Greco, the style seems more chatbot than human, it's written as a series of notes using only primary sources, it has a promotional tone with all those "breakthroughs" and successes, and provides "interpretations" which are not that. Anyway, regardless of whether it's human- or bot-written, it needs a lot of work Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:54, 25 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hi Jimfbleak, thanks for your suggestion. Actually I wrote my contribution in a very schematic style, as I tell this historical piece of science to my phD students, who like very concise statements, much easier to remember. Please notice that the three papers I mentioned led to the same interpretation of the experimental discovery, namely a bound state of charm-anticharm quarks. I will try to modify my text and I'll be back to you. Mario Tom Greco (talk) 17:42, 25 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Mario Tom Greco You said "My question is simply when this contribution will be moved to the main page of the article". Things you add to the talk page of an article do not magically get moved to the article itself. I haven't checked, but unless you asked, at the talk page, for any interested editor to please add the info to the article for you -- for example, if you just added a bunch of info to the talk page -- then it will just stay only on the talk page. If you have properly sourced information that you think should be in the article, generally, you should add it to the article yourself. Plus, what Jimfbleak said. David10244 (talk) 07:15, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Mario Tom Greco Now that I checked the talk page, it is not at all clear from what you wrote there, that you expected the info to migrate into the article. David10244 (talk) 07:19, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Gnu free images

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Hi, what is the story with loading Gnu free images? This ancient computer image would be good to have. Ideas please. Thanks Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 03:58, 28 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

If you don't get a good reply here, try Commons Help desk. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:18, 28 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
It depends on the license status. That typically means knowing at a minimum what year the photo was taken (or sometimes what approximate range, based on certain cut-off ages) and who took the actual photo. But it also depends on the use-case. For a single photo of a unique object that no longer exists (and will not reasonably exist again), such as the BCC-500 computer, the rules of what is allowed are sometimes slightly relaxed, but the requirements for what details are known about the photo might be increased so proper credit can be given. DMacks (talk) 11:45, 28 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for clarifying the general issues. But I am still not sure if I should load it. I am certain that the computer had been dismantled by 1981, because I met Wayne Lichtenberger that year in the bay area. He had been keeping the machine alive in Hawaii and felt sorry they had dismantled it after he left. But I have no source for that. So I guess I will have to move on unless another suggestion is made. Thanks Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 14:47, 28 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
I googled around and see it in a few places but never with a credited photographer or other origination info. The computer was likely built around 1969–1971 and was one-of-a-kind, so we know the timeframe when the photo was taken. More importantly, I can't find the date of the first publication (or posting, etc.) of the photo. That means we can't really know whether it is free for use. But! I'm sure the image qualifies for non-free fair use because it is likely irreplaceable and it displays the topic of a substantive section of a WP article. Could you take a look around and see if you can find any site that has photographer or other original-publication details? That can help when filling out the form to allow its use here. DMacks (talk) 15:20, 28 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Your assessment is correct. It started in 1968-69 in Berkeley, then they left in 69 to start the company. But they relied on a single funding source and when that source suddenly had its own unrelated problems the funding stopped. It was a setback for the computer industry, because it was a clever design that would have had followers. Unfortunately Gio Wiederhold is no longer with us, so we can not ask. He was one of the group as well although the page does not say that. The photo I linked to was loaded in April 2022, but that may not help. I searched but can see no other one. If you want to load it please do. I do not know what else I can do. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 16:10, 28 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hi, I thought I should mention to you in passing that I just realized that Project Genie had a much bigger long term impact than people know about, and those involved never guessed it. It resulted in the Sigma series computers. Now, what machine did Charley Kline use to send the first internet message in Oct 1969? A Sigma 7. Take look at the page if you like. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 16:43, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

My valid changes were reversed!

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'Hello FantasticWikiUser! Everything i have adjusted in recent wikipedia pages is validly written to align with British language standards I have gotten rid of words which are viewed as 'Americanisms' and not to used in British English such the 'ize' suffix's and replaced with the British standee 'ise' for all British English used pages I have also gone ahead and removed double quotation marks due to them being used in improper ways as British English only ever establishes their usage when its within double quotes (a quote within a quote) the de facto style to be used for ordinary quotes is ' not " I have alsoused the correct British spelling for 'mediaeval' as well as it being the more historical accurate spelling used for the words the Wikipedia pages are about. Can you please explain why you have reversed valid changes not invalid changes but valid changes' I tried contacting him but nothing why is this? Kingdoms gg (talk) 15:39, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Not all Wikipedia articles are written in British English. Some are, especially if they have a British lineage, but we don't have one defined setup of rules for language variables Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:48, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'll also say that mediaeval is a very old British term, it's certainly not the spelling used in modern Britain. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:50, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Actually, it's the spelling I preferentially use when not accommodating myself to American readers, but I admit to being borderline elderly. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 07:35, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
It is not acceptable to change the actual title of published works purely for ENGVAR of our article that cites them. DMacks (talk) 16:14, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hi, and sorry for not seeing your earlier attempts to contact me. If I recall correctly, I didn't think that the spelling mediaeval was ever used for English, and I wouldn't have reverted if I had known it was ever in use in English, meaning I thought it was some sort of accidental edit that added a typo, so that's my fault. In solidarity, FantasticWikiUser(Ts and Cs) 16:16, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
The spelling is A Thing, but it is rather archaic. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 17:06, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Jéské Couriano, here's The (Rather Archaic) Thing: mediæval. -- Hoary (talk) 05:53, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

See MOS:ENGVAR. Wikipedia does not have "correct spellings" and articles can be written in different variants of national English.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:57, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Courtesy ping: FantasticWikiUser 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 16:07, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Kingdoms gg, if you are saying that recognize, realize, etc, are somehow unBritish, I suggest a reading of the article Oxford spelling. (To confirm what it says about The Oxford English Dictionary, take a look therein for euthanize or whatever: although the meat of the OED is behind a paywall, viewing the choices of headword spellings costs nothing.) See also Template:Use Oxford spelling. -- Hoary (talk) 05:45, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Resume-like pages to be edited

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Hello, I want to edit Sumayya Vally and Harriet Harriss' page, so it's less like a resume and in support of what has been flagged on both pages. Could you provide guidance on what sticks out the most, that needs to be changed? Also on Harriet Harriss' page, it has '(ARB, RIBA, (Assoc.)AIA, PFHEA, FRSA, Ph.D.)', should I remove?

I've edited Harriet Harriss' first few paragraphs significantly, as it was a lot in the introduction.

Thank you. Lesanimas17 (talk) 16:55, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

I'm afraid that my internet is a bit spotty so I've had trouble taking a proper look at the pages - I noticed you haven't had a reply yet & figured I'd try to give you what little advice I can until it's sorted out.
Here are a few tips off the top of my head, they're pretty generic so you can apply them to any article:
  • I find it helpful to start by thinking about the purpose of a resume (make the subject look good, promote them to the reader, list their achievements) vs. the purpose of Wikipedia (presenting neutral information about notable subjects, increase a reader's knowledge without promoting the subject) and cast a critical eye over parts that don't look like they belong on an encyclopedia.
  • Look at articles about similar subjects (ideally look for GA's & FA's) for an idea of what your end result should look like. It isn't reasonable for you to match a GA or FA, but they will show you what the best Wikipedia articles look like and vastly reduce the risk of you accidentally picking a bad article as a baseline.
  • Vet the article section-by-section and edit in relatively small, workable steps; this way you won't get overwhelmed and it'll be easier for you or another editor to find and correct any mistakes that may occur.
  • Check each citation as you go, you will probably be able to re-use sources in other places (or find that out shouldn't be there in the first place).
  • Don't be afraid to get rid of entire sections or even most of the article if you think it'll be easier to start from scratch - sometimes that will save a lot of time and effort in the long run (see WP:TNT).
  • You will have an individual mentor assigned to you, so if you need one-on-one support make sure they're your first point of contact. See this page if you aren't sure how to find them.
Blue-Sonnet In solidarity 22:05, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, this is super helpful. Also thanks for flagging the assigned mentor, I didn't realise this. Lesanimas17 (talk) 15:14, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
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https://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/bsb00000006/images/index.html?nativeno=336

I have a photograph I would like to use for Anna Zammert but I am not sure where to find information about the copyright. There is a link at the top saying that it is under copyright but that use cases are specified on the site. Can anyone help me figure out where the use cases are listed? Thank you! Mismeander (talk) 10:49, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Okay, so, it looks like the work was created by "Deutsches Reich. Reichstag" in 1932. While it's marked as under copyright by the database, I think that just means it doesn't have a copyleft license on it, not that it can't fall under public domain. The first page of the book says it was "published by the Office of the Reichstag, printed and published by the Reich Printing Office." It does not list an author. That would indicate (I think) that this is a work "published in Germany before the Law on Copyrights and Neighboring Rights (UrhG) came into effect on January 1, 1966 [and] does not indicate its author and was published by a legal entity under public law." Per the documentation of Template:PD-Germany-§134-KUG on Commons, that means it would fall under public domain. So you should be able to upload the image to Commons using the linked template, and then link the image on Wikipedia. Does that make sense? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 12:07, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! I have uploaded it and added that template to the file page on Wikimedia Commons. I hope I did it right. Mismeander (talk) 20:03, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Mismeander: Thanks for your work. I made a minor tweak to remove your assertion of "own work" and move the actual PD statement into the "licensing" section of the description. Please review my change. -Arch dude (talk) 15:27, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Fantastic, yes I'll take care to do it that way if this ever comes up again. Looks great! Mismeander (talk) 15:56, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Given its age, it might be now public domain, but in any case, since the subject has been dead since 1982, you may also be able to argue its use under the Non-Free Use Rationale as an upload directly to en.Wikipedia (not Wikimedia Commons) for use in this article only. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 12:14, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for this idea as well, I went with the template idea from @SomeoneDreaming because it seemed the easiest and most clear. In the future I'll keep this in mind though! Mismeander (talk) 20:05, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Standard information

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Why is it that profiles often identify individuals as Jewish or of Jewish origin, while this is rarely the case for individuals of other religions or ethnic groups? Are there any policies regarding inclusion of such information? ~2026-32332-54 (talk) 11:46, 31 May 2026 (UTC) David J. FleischmannReply

See MOS:ETHNICITY, and the essay Wikipedia:Jew-tagging. There are clearly sometimes legitimate reasons to comment on someone's ethnicity and/or religion in a biography - i.e. when it is actually relevant to their notability, but there is no question that it has been emphasised to excess in articles on Jewish people, and we are aware of the issue. I'd like to say we are taking steps to fix it, but the reality is that it involves a lot of donkey-work, and removal of such content sometimes meets well-meaning resistance. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:57, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
I appreciate the effort regarding avoidance of 'Jew-tagging.' But there is an underlying question that seems to have been addressed mainly by avoidance. The style guide says that "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality are generally inappropriate for inclusion in the opening paragraph, unless they are explicitly due emphasis in a person's life... Substitution of ethnicity or religion for nationality, or mixing or equating nationality with ethnicity (i.e., Polish-Jewish) are discouraged in the context of the opening section of an article." Why is it that we automatically accord key importance to nationality? It is an easier key to identification, but is it necessarily the most important one, the one most revealing of a life? Conversely, if religion is an important factor in providing an understanding of a Jewish individual's life and significance, shouldn't Christianity (and the sect or variety) be noted in a comparable way for others, instead of seeming to be a default assumption? ~2026-32332-54 (talk) 11:42, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Putting two tables side-by-side

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In Safari on iPad: can't insert links in Visual Editor or in Source Editor. After the link choice is entered, the link button is red. What should I do? Hunzu (talk) 20:29, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Normally the link button is red because the link is to a page that doesn't exist; see WP:redlink. Does that answer your question? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:00, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Hunzu: Can you link to the page you're talking about? 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 00:34, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hunzu, when I use the source editor (as I always do) and want to link the word "toe" to the English-language Wikipedia article about toes, I type [[toe]], and thereby get "toe". What happens when you try to do the same? (NB: Other-language Wikipedia articles (such as Orteil), Wikimedia but non-Wikipedia pages (such as toe) and non-Wikimedia pages (such as "Morton's neuroma") are linked to in other ways.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:39, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Account

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You will not allow me to log in to my account because I do not have access to the account email address. Since I cannot login and use the service. How can I stop my monthly donation of $52.00.

My username is jpprice47. ~2026-32492-24 (talk) 22:15, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Donations are not tied to Wikipedia usernames. (The two systems are very much separate.) In any event, any questions about donations should be sent to donate[at]wikimedia.org. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 22:40, 31 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
I will also note you don't have to donate one penny to operate an account. Donations are not required to operate an account. 331dot (talk) 15:17, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

jpprice47 shows that the account last edited in 2016, and had relatively few edits. The best thing to do would be to create a new account and to note that you previously edited under this name. If you really wanted to revive this account, you could write to ca@wikimedia.org to explain the problem.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:27, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

~2026-32492-24/jpprice47, losing access to an account this way is quite common, and a common expedient is to add a note to the original account's page (which you don't have to be logged into to do) saying that you lost access and are now using a new account named /whatever/, and to the new account's page that you previously used the old account (in this case jpprice47).
Note that most everyday editing can be done without an account at all (I have, in over 20 years of work here, deliberately never created one). It merely gives you some extra accesses to semi-protected article editing, and certain resources, and the possibility of applying for various specialist tasks, if those are what you want. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 15:02, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Access to the Organisation Page

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Dear Wikipedia family,

My organisation page is available on the wikipedia website but I dont have access to my organisation page not in my company. please do suggest how can i change information on the page? ~2026-32581-69 (talk) 07:20, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Please see WP:BOSS. Generally speaking, you should not edit the page if you are directly involved with it. If there is something obviously wrong, you can make an edit request on the relevant talk page. What is the page that you would like to edit?--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:24, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hello, @~2026-32581-69.
It sounds as if you have the common misunderstanding that a Wikipedia article about your organisation somehow belongs to, or is managed by, your organisation, so you need a special account to edit it.
This is entirely wrong. Wikipedia's article about your organisation does not belong to the organisation, is not controlled by the organisation, and will not necessarily say what the organisation would like it to say.
It may be edited by almost anybody in the world except people associated with the organisation, who should not edit it directly, but make edit requests instead.
Note also that if you are in any way employed by the organisation (including as a volunteer or intern) you are probably regarded by Wikipedia as a paid editor, and you must make the formal declaration described in that link. ColinFine (talk) 17:03, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Source editor apparantly hates me now

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Source editor has gone berserk and is trying to "help" me by offering suggestion about how to finish my words. Dirves me nuts, how do I turn it off? Can't fine a button in Preferences right off. Thanks. Herostratus (talk) 12:43, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Herostratus, is this perhaps your device that’s doing this? I don’t recall this being a thing within Wikipedia. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 13:10, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I think this may be due to the change to mw:Parsoid. The new parser will offer suggestions if you start writing a link, HTML tag, or a template. If you turn off the syntax highlighter it also turns the suggestions off, but you'll be looking at the raw source without colour-coding. I don't think there's a way to keep highlighting and only turn off the suggestions. I also don't think you can revert to the old parser now that it's been rolled out (though I may be wrong about that, idk).
If you're getting suggestions for ordinary text, not just links/templates/HTML, then I think this is a problem on your end rather than with Wikipedia's source editor. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 13:14, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

How to connect to German Wikipedia page

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How to connect https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Deane_Berman on the US Wikipedia ~2026-32421-30 (talk) 16:42, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hello, @~2026-32421-30.
I'm not sure what you mean.
You can create a wikilink to an article in another language Wikipedia by putting the language code after a colon at the beginning, eg [[:de:Anne Deane Berman]] displays as de:Anne Deane Berman, and links to that article.
If you are talking about linking an article in the English Wikipedia (it is not the US Wikipedia, by the way: it serves all varieties of English) to a related article in the German Wikipedia, that is done nowadays by Wikidata: see interlanguage links.
If you want to insert a link in an English article to a subject that is in the German Wikipedia, but not at the moment in English Wikipedia, it is recommended to use the template {{ill}}. That is also described in the page I linked to above. ColinFine (talk) 17:09, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Birthdate

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How do I remove a birthdate, or at least the birth year from my client’s Wikipedia profile? Robertprguy (talk) 23:51, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

What article are you referring to? The birthdate should not be removed if there's a reliable source supporting it. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 23:54, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
You would need to make a WP:edit request due to your conflict of interest (editing on behalf of a client). But, as JohnLaurens333 said, there would need to be a good reason to have it removed. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 23:56, 1 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I don't think there is; the birth year is cited to a reference work that corroborates it. I'd be more sympathetic if it were unsourced, but anyone removing it would need to see a very compelling argument beyond "My client is being screwed out of roles." —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 01:17, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Robertprguy You were already told to disclose your COI earlier today which you still have failed to do. At this point you should be blocked from editing for that reason. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 01:18, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I guess I am not understanding. I am certainly not attempting to do anything more than what my client has asked of me. Would it be better if she makes this request of you all?
And, I am making WP edit request now.
Thank you!
Robert Walker
(Redacted) Robertprguy (talk) 01:25, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Robertprguy you are required to adhere in full to Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure, before you make any edits relating to your client or anyone else who has paid or requested that you make edits for them. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 01:28, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Admins around?- Robertprguy has been warned three times on his talk page to disclose his COI and still has failed to do so. Should at minimum be blocked until COI disclosure is completed. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 01:20, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Additionally, his username suggests a single-purpose account who is only here for the purposes of writing for his paying clients and as such should be indeffed as WP:NOTHERE. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 01:29, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Electricmemory,I've posted a final warning and I'll indef if any edits are made without declaring, or if any direct edits are made to Tonea Stewart, declared or not. Thanks for restoring the DoB Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:52, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Robertprguy your client also has an obvious COI, and would get the same response. There is no reason for removing publicly available verifiable data Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:56, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Electricmemory I've gone down this line of questioning before; it is not the case (regrettably, in my opinion) that people who are here only to do PR are ipso facto WP:NOTHERE, at least by the community's current opinions. Athanelar (talk) 10:49, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Attempted Fraud!

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I have received a highly suspicious email from a private company claiming to represent you and clean up or correct my Wikipedia entry. Needless to say, they are prepared to charge hundreds of GB pounds to do so.

I am treating this as a ransom demand and will report it to the police as such.

In the meantime, I am obliged to stop making contributions to Wikipedia.

Nigel G. Spencer ~2026-32720-81 (talk) 01:50, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

They're a scammer. They are not affiliated with us what-so-ever. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 02:19, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Lost temp user appearing to request help from a politician via Talk page

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I genuinely have no idea what to do here. A temp user has posted what might be a request for help on a politician's page in what might be Hinglish. I posted a response saying that we have no connection to this person. Talk:V. D. Satheesan#c-~2026-32216-08-20260530143100-My name is Vipin i so one Amma in palakkad olavacode railway station she's situa.... Is there a standard protocol for handling posts like this? SenshiSun (talk) 02:18, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Just reverting them off per WP:NOTFORUM is all that is needed. If they included personal details, you may also want to look into privately contacting an administrator or Suppressor depending on the nature of the information. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 02:20, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Removed. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 02:40, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. SenshiSun (talk) 14:51, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
In the future, if WP:NOTFORUM or another similar policy applies you can BOLDly remove it. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 23:07, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

es.wp

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why so much antagonism against Spanish Wikipedia. I understand you are notoriously hostile to: new accounts autobiographies women’s biographies Latin American academics people writing about themselves long, well‑documented careers It's sickening. I am reconsidering my donations to you. I have tried to put up the autobio in Spanish and in English, long, short, etc. and it gets rejected. Either your system is inefficient or you are discriminating. ~2026-32803-72 (talk) 03:31, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Spanish Wikipedia is a separate project entirely from the English-language one, and the English-language Wikipedia has stricter standards and enforcement of same. That said, unless you link to the draft you're talking about (this temporary account only has one edit, and it's posting this rant) we can't help you with it. We aren't clairvoyant. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 04:06, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hello, @~2026-32803-72.
I can't speak for Spanish Wikipedia, but as regards English Wikipedia, Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.
Very few people are able to distance themselves enough to create an acceptable autobiography, so it is strongly discouraged to try.
It is true that some groups of people are less well covered in reliable independent sources, and so it may be much harder to create an acceptable Wikipedia article about them: if this is discrimination, it is not in Wikipedia, which does its best to apply its policies consistently. (Sources do not have to be online, or in English, but they do have to be reliable).
As for donations: it is entirely up to you whether you donate - there is nobody involved in editing Wikipedia who has any knowledge about who donates and who does not. But if you believe that whether or not you donate has or should have any bearing whatsoever on whether an article by you or about you is accepted, you have fundamentally misunderstood what Wikipedia is. ColinFine (talk) 10:50, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Infobox Image

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How to insert image on the infobox of page IMGTMC (talk) 04:07, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Exactly the way you did in your sandbox. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 06:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@IMGTMC: Most infoboxes only want the file name and then add their own formatting. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:30, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Did you actually take that photograph of Angelo Agcaoili? It matches one I see on social media and both the overall composition and the person himself look artificially created. DMacks (talk) 12:43, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hi. Yes, as I assume that it for public use. Is there anything I need to adjust? If so, I would really appreciate if you could guide me please. IMGTMC (talk) 05:09, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

SandBox

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Yesterday I wanted to create a Page for Bertram Sargeaunt", so was sens to "the SandBox" - but now, wanting to add to it, I can't find it ! ClayRobin (talk) 11:10, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

The edit immediately above is the only one that you, logged in as "ClayRobin", have made since March. But perhaps the history of the sandbox will show you an edit you made when not logged in. -- Hoary (talk) 11:32, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you SO much !
I have found it !
Alas ! Wikipedia has got SO complicated  :-(
And I can NEVER remember Passwords, so I had to open YET another account - PobClay !
This morning, when I tried to LogIn, the WebSite ONLY offered THIS name, and refused the other one !
Yesterday was vice versa !
And I can't remember THAT Password either !
"Too clever by half"  :-(
AND - I have not the SLIGHTEST idea HOW to Log Out, so I can (try to) LogIn under that other name !
Thanks again. ClayRobin (talk) 12:12, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you SO much !
I have found it !
Alas ! Wikipedia has got SO complicated  :-(
And I can NEVER remember Passwords, so I had to open YET another account - PobClay !
This morning, when I tried to LogIn, the WebSite ONLY offered THIS name, and refused the other one !
Yesterday was vice versa !
And I can't remember THAT Password either !
"Too clever by half"  :-(
AND - I have not the SLIGHTEST idea HOW to Log Out, so I can (try) to LogIn inder that other name. !
Thanks again. ClayRobin (talk) 12:40, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
ClayRobin (aka PobClay), if you can never remember passwords, you might consider writing them down somewhere. -- Hoary (talk) 22:53, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
NB "the sandbox" is not the only "sandbox". For example, User:ClayRobin/sandbox is the default address for ClayRobin's sandbox, but nobody has yet edited this. -- Hoary (talk) 11:43, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@ClayRobin: I guess you are User:PobClay. Click "diff" at Special:Contributions/PobClay to see the edits, and see Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry if you want to use both accounts. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:14, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@ClayRobin: I see you found out by yourself. Both accounts have stored an email address at Special:Preferences so you can use Special:PasswordReset. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:17, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you ! ClayRobin (talk) 12:46, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Prime ??
My daughter married a "Mr. Prime" !
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Thanks again - I'll give it a go. ClayRobin (talk) 12:52, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@ClayRobin: My username refers to searching for primes, not Prime (surname). Somebody was once offended by the name. I guess they thought it referred to something else. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:17, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I assumed you were some method for determining of the first derivative. DMacks (talk) 13:47, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
...slope at a point on a curve...angle...slant...bias... AHAH! You help find WP:NPOV violations. DMacks (talk) 13:49, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Assistance needed at the World Congress for Biomechanics: July 11!

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Hello Did you know that less than 20% of Wikipedia biographies are about women? In 2023, a search of 'Women in Biomechanics' on Wikipedia by Emeritus Professor Julie Steele returned NO results. The International Women in Biomechanics set out to change this in Dec 2024 when they coordinated a Wikipedia-Bomb (https://www.intwomenbiomech.org/abc_anzors_wikibomb) I am part of a group of researchers attending the World Congress for Biomechanics in early July in Vancouver. We are planning on continuing this fun tradition and would like to host a Wiki writing/editing event to promote Women in Biomechanics as well as other equity seeking groups (Black Biomechanists Association and Latinx in Biomechanix). We are requesting on site assistance from a Wiki editor to help us publish our text in the format required for Wikipedia. We are fun- and pretty good writers, for scientists! Please let me know if anyone is open to spending a Saturday with us as we aim to change the narrative and increase Equity and Diversity on Biomechanics related Wikipedia pages. Looking forward to hearing from you! Lori Vallis Lvallis (talk) 13:47, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hello, @Lvallis.
This sounds like a very good idea - but bear in mind that Wikipedia articles require the subject to meet the criteria for notability, which is mostly about whether enough independent material about the subject has been reliably published. Sadly, women scientists (as in other fields) are sometimes underrepresented in secondary sources, and where that is the case, no Wikipedia article can be written. Working to address that lack would also be worthwhile, though it would not immediately benefit Wikipedia.
I suggest you read WP:How to run an edit-a-thon, first.
Then go to WP:WikiProject Women in Red and ask for advice (and maybe participation) there. ColinFine (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hello ColinFine
Thank you for the reply and for the additional links. I am working with Colleagues in Australia who ran a similar session a few years back. I believe they worked with a Wiki editor there to create a list of Women Biomechanists who met the Wiki publishing criterion. We have set aside time in the conference proceedings to get to the writing/editing of these planned pages!
If you know of anyone in the Vancouver area who is interested in working with us on this Fun project please let me know - the group has lots of energy and are excited to contribute content about Women in Biomechanics who are making incredible contributions to the field.
Lvallis Lvallis (talk) 15:20, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia:Meetup/Vancouver? 2 years ago, the meetup Wikipedia:Meetup/Vancouver/ArtAndFeminism 2024 was organized. -- Reconrabbit (talk) 16:55, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Folks!! Is a 1927 UK book still in copyright. This is it scope_creepTalk 14:13, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Scope creep: what do you want to do? Wikipedia:Non-US copyrights#UK Copyright says The UK Copyright service has a good summary. The legal basis is the 1988 Copyright, Designs and Patents Act, and subsequent modifications and revisions. In particular for literary, artistic works, copyright ends 70 years after the last surviving author dies or if unknown, 70 years after creation or publication. TSventon (talk) 15:09, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hi @TSventon: I would like to put a {{PD-notice}} on a reference if its public domain. Hector Charles Cameron died in 1958. Would that mean its not PD for at least 18 months. scope_creepTalk 15:23, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I am not an expert, hopefully someone else can answer, if not you could ask Diannaa. Obviously she is busy so explain the situation for her. TSventon (talk) 16:00, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Scope creep: also I can't see a chapter "A Short Account of the Evolution of Lister's System of Antiseptic Surgery" on pp. 15–61, am I missing something?
@Scope creep: the book enters the public domain on 1 January 2029. Mjroots (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Mjroots: I'll put a chapter on it. That is cool. I think Diannaa will probably concur. I was planning to speak to MarchJuly in commons, but it will likely the same answer. Thanks folks. scope_creepTalk 17:46, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
If you're in the US, before 2029 you can upload images from it to Wikipedia and tag with {{PD-USonly}}. If you're not in the US, ask someone who is. Anything published before 1931 has entered the US public domain, so Wikipedia accepts it even though Commons doesn't. Nyttend (talk) 20:08, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia not honoring my Reduced Motion (prefers-reduced-motion)

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I need Reduced Motion for accessibility, which includes gifs not autoplaying. So I have Firefox about:config set to ui.prefersReducedMotion = true. But Wikipedia's gifs in articles don't honor my request and instead disregard it and autoplay. Why? ~2026-32903-73 (talk) 15:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@~2026-32903-73: It doesn't appear our software supports prefers-reduced-motion for animated gifs. I didn't know this feature. TheDJ suggested we consider it in phab:T85838#8667603. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:47, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
yeah this is a longstanding problem, but areas like these are pretty difficult to change. I'll note that Firefox has its own setting for auto playback of gifs that can be used. If this is really a problem for a person, I would definitely advise using that browser and setting that option. If anyone has a couple of weeks to spare of his life, then patches to implement the CSS trick are welcome as well of course. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 08:53, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Swap menus between the left and right sidebars (Vector 2022)

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Is there a way (eg. via common.css, or common.js) to swap which sidebar a particular menu appears in? eg. Moving the main links menu to the right sidebar or moving the appearance menu to the left sidebar. By default, the only option seems to be a button to "move to sidebar" or "hide" but no option choose which of the two sidebars a menu ends up in. I was wondering if there was a way to override where the menu ends up with custom CSS or a script. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 18:09, 2 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Scyrme There are no such options at this time. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 08:54, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunate. Thanks for the reply. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 19:27, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

privacy & safety concerns - need birthdate removal on wikipedia page started about me

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Hello, A page was just started about me and my birthdate was included with my birthplace. Because of multiple identity theft situations that I have experienced, I am very uncomfortable with this information being out there like this.

This information isn't on a reputable website elsewhere out there - I checked out the wikipedia requirements and it's being pulled from imdb, which I'm also currently in the process of getting it down with because of terrible circumstances.

Please advise me on what to do. I'm honored that someone would even think to include me on this site, but my birthday information is really scary information for me to have out there. Tuesdayandwednesday (talk) 01:35, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Tuesdayandwednesday, the quickest and easiest way to have non-public personal information removed from both the article and its edit history is to contact the Oversight team by email, with details about the article in question, and the information you need removed from it. In solidarity, nil nz 01:46, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Seconding Nil. IMDb isn't an acceptable source full stop, let alone for birthdate (which generally requires a source). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 02:34, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Jéské Couriano Which page is this about? Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 14:36, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The OP hasn't said, but as a rule IMDb isn't a suitable source, and ageism is enough of an issue that birthdate counts as controversial for WP:BLP purposes. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 18:53, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, I'll reach out asap. Tuesdayandwednesday (talk) 02:58, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Tuesdayandwednesday Per the rules at WP:COI, if there is a Wikipedia article with which you have a conflict of interest, you are required to disclose that on your user page. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 14:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Electricmemory: No – they're only required to if they're editing the page involved. Given the circumstances, it seems very reasonable for them not to want to draw attention to the article after posting on one of enwiki's most-watched pages. In solidarity, nil nz 18:53, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Login Verification code

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I am trying to login, password works and it sends a verification code....but not to my email, i recover the account and it sends the recovery info to the correct email, why would the verification code be sent to some other random email address? any help much appreciated ~2026-33029-43 (talk) 06:58, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Not sure, but if you are logged in to the account, please set up meta:Help:Two-factor authentication. Email login verification is not entirely reliable and if you have 2FA enabled the email verification will be switched off as it is not needed.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:44, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@~2026-33029-43: Mails are sent to the same address but some of them may be blocked as suspected spam. If you have a webmail with a spam folder then check it. If you have a way to set approved senders then set wiki@wikimedia.org. If you know the password but can still not gain access then mail ca@wikimedia.org. Don't send the password. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:06, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Article Request for Tracy Edwards (Trade Unionist & Campaigner)

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Hello, I am trying to submit a biographical article for Tracy Edwards, a prominent Scottish and British trade unionist who recently passed away on 13 May 2026. Because my account is new, I am continuously hitting automated abuse filters and CAPTCHA errors preventing submission. The text is fully drafted and sourced below. Could an experienced editor please move this into the draft space or publish it? *** PROPOSED ARTICLE TEXT:

CrankyAntiX (talk) 11:30, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Please see Your first article. If you are new to Wikipedia, it is best to create a WP:DRAFT so that other users can check it out before it goes live in the article mainspace. This would need a lot of work before going live.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:37, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
If you re having problems starting a draft, could you use your sandbox at User:CrankyAntiX/sandbox? TSventon (talk) 11:44, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'll post guidance to your talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:58, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hello, @CrankyAntiX.
My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 16:22, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I would also read WP:Biographies of living persons, as that policy also applies to recent decedents. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 18:50, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

K fee

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Hallo. Is K-fee (the jumpscare coffee company) notable enough for an article? ~2026-22534-68 (talk) 15:01, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

That depends on if it meets the definition of a notable company, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 15:04, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Infobox

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Hello,

I am editing a wiki page and wanted to add an infobox. I looked up how to do this and it said to click 'insert' in the editor. This button is not available for me. Is there another way to add this?

Thank you! Sum25003 (talk) 16:00, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Sum25003: It depends which editor you are using. In the source editor you can write the infobox code manually. The code should be documented on its template page but you didn't say which infobox you want. If you use VisualEditor then in the mobile version it has no Insert button for some reason, probably a bug. In the desktop version it does have Insert. You can switch between the mobile and desktop version on a "Desktop view" or "Mobile view" link at the botttom of pages (maybe not during an edit). You can switch between the source editor and VisualEdior on a pencil icon at the top right while editing. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:46, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! Sum25003 (talk) 14:23, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

PSYCLONES (band) page

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Hi, I am trying to keep the page PSYCLONES (band) page. For some reason it was set for deletion. The page was made over 20 years ago. User, I have no idea. But I would like to make sure the page is not deleted. Psyclones is a note worthy band, and one of the first experimental industrial bands of the 80's. Please help to keep it on. Jcfbkl (talk) 17:01, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia only carries articles on subjects which meet our notability criteria (that would be WP:BAND for the Psyclones). THe draft provides zero evidence of this, and you need to provide evidence to the contrary. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:12, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
(Personal attack removed) ~2026-32824-88 (talk) 17:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
A member of the band wrote this, not me. Jcfbkl (talk) 17:45, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
How do you know that a member of the band wrote this? Do you have a personal connection to the band? CodeTalker (talk) 19:23, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The evidence is LPs, CD's and cassete still available on the internet from various music labels. Subterranean Records, and Permanent Records. Also Ladd-Frith Music, plus Amazon Music and Bandcamp. What more proof do you need? Many many other bands don't even have one record out and they exist on Wikipedia. Why is more proof needed?? Jcfbkl (talk) 17:41, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The article originally written about 20 years ago on Wikipedia. The evidence of proof is the band is a viable note worthy band of the 80's that help lift the genre of experimental industrial music to the whole world. Jcfbkl (talk) 17:47, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia's rules were far less strict than they are nowadays. If it couldn't pass in 2006 then it probably won't pass now. GarethBaloney (talk) 18:15, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
It has been updated and all has been fixed. Please remove the discussion of deletion tag. Than k you. Jcfbkl (talk) 18:24, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
AfD deletion tags do not get removed as long as the deletion debate is ongoing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 18:33, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I think it is over. Thank you. Jcfbkl (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
It is not over. I just commented on it, and based on timestamps the deletion debate only just started. (Deletion debates run a full week barring a swift and overwhelming unanimous consensus for one outcome.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 18:48, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hello, @Jcfbkl.
I'm afraid that existence is not enough, and nor are primary sources.
A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.
Unless such independent, in-depth sources exist, there is literally nothing that can go into an article, and no article is possible. ColinFine (talk) 19:52, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Finding uses of a website as a reference

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Reading Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide I found a spam link. Is there any way of searching Wiki to find other uses of it? Red Fiona (talk) 18:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Couple of methods, but the easiest is probably to use https://spamcheck.toolforge.org
The other option would be to manually find them using the search bar, with insource:"url here". In solidarity, nil nz 19:01, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you :) Red Fiona (talk) 19:16, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I see several different IPs and accounts who had added links to the site you found at NAD. None seem to be recent, so probably nobody worth warning or blocking. Thanks for tracking and cleaning them! DMacks (talk) 00:14, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Correct redirect categorization?

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Hello, for this redirect, did I apply the correct categories? Special:Diff/1357629775

  • Redirect *from* alternative spacing
  • Redirect *to* same page with diacritics

I'm questioning that second one about diacritics because technically the redirect is not the exact same page, due to the alternative spacing. If that makes sense. Thanks for your help! Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 18:57, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hello, @Chao Garden. I've never used those categories, but looking at their documentation pages, it looks right to me. ColinFine (talk) 19:56, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Looks fine to me; I don't think {{R to diacritic}} needs the page to be exactly the same. If you'd like you can add an {{R from avoided double redirect}} tag to redirects like this. I am bad at usernames (talk · contribs) 21:43, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I want to become Editor

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Hello. I enjoy editing Wikipedia but I don't have a specific topic area that I am deeply interested in or knowledgeable about. Is it acceptable to contribute mainly through general maintenance work such as reverting vandalism, adding categories with HotCat, fixing formatting issues, copyediting, adding references, patrolling recent changes, and other cleanup tasks? If so what are some good areas or workflows that experienced editors would recommend for someone who wants to help improve Wikipedia without focusing on a particular subject area? ProTrump1 (talk) 20:43, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I would suggest keeping an eye on recent changes pages. You can keep an eye out for material that may be tagged for vandalism or other similar material. Other ones would be highly visited articles which are prone to vandalism. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:52, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the advice. I am currently an autoconfirmed user and mainly edit from mobile. Would Twinkle be suitable for vandalism reversion and maintenance work or are there other tools that experienced editors would recommend for mobile users? ProTrump1 (talk) 20:55, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
It is absolutely acceptable, and in fact very helpful, to contribute with this general maintenance work. The page Wikipedia:Task Center has a good list of these kinds of tasks, including links to go to a random page in a category of pages needing specific help. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:57, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I can't find the button to access random articles.

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I can't find button to access random articles Huldah42 (talk) 22:16, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Huldah42: You posted from the mobile version so tap the hamburger button ≡ at the top left and then "Random". PrimeHunter (talk) 22:25, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Minor suggestion to avoid newbie errors on TPs

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SUGGESTION: Include a simple notice like "Add your entry at the bottom" in the Talk Page top template for ALL articles.

RATIONALE:

Finding this in the Talk Page requires scrolling about 10 screens down to reach the "New topics and headings on talk pages" (which also should be the first section).

I am sure this is a very common newbie error. I have been scolded (".. for the nth time, [jp1008]!") for putting my comment at the top of a TP and have only learned this after over 6 months of frequent editing!

Lastly, putting it first rather than last is the more intuitive thing for a newbie. It is easier for one. And second, one could argue that seeing the latest comment first would be better than scrolling to the end. But Wiki rules need to be adhered to. You just shouldn't need to learn it through a scolding.
Jp1008 (talk) 22:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Are you editing on mobile or desktop? If you're on desktop, there's a "add topic" button along the top bar on the right hand site which might be easier than scrolling all the way down. Not sure if there's an equivalent button on mobile.
Many talk pages use Template:Talk header, which does have a line specifying "Add new text under old text" and a button that allows you to start a new topic, but it's not universally used. The documentation leads me to believe that there are reasons for that, but I'm not sure what they are. You could ask on the template talk page. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:56, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Jp1008: the issue you raise is not a big one. It is easily dealt with when it happens. As you say yourself, you have been educated as to where you were going wrong. You're still a newbie at 6 months editing. You will make much bigger mistakes in the future. The important thing is that you learn from them when you make them. Mjroots (talk)
I did say it was a minor issue, but thanks for the reply. And the ... encouragement? LOL
Jp1008 (talk) 22:51, 6 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Editing on Chrome, iOS. The Tea Room and this page do have the "Add Topic" button, but I have not seen that in any TP so far. Anyhow, I thought it might reduce the frustration of old editors and "avoid chaos" as I was told, and it may not be too hard to add it to the standard TP template, me thought. I'll just leave it at that. Jp1008 (talk) 03:57, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hello @Jp1008
I understand that it can be difficult for new users; However the other side is it shouldn't also clutter Wikipedia for everyone else. One way to do that is with editor help panel which does not teach new editors what to do on talk pages. You could suggest this idea to mw:Talk:Growth/Focus on help desk as they can directly implement your idea if a successful discussion is made. I love RYCBARM (talk) 08:23, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, but isn't this Help Desk? Perhaps you meant some other place?
Jp1008 (talk) 16:40, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I think I have fixed the link. TSventon (talk) 16:56, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Use of images posted in public Discord servers as per Wikipedia's non-free content policy

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In trying to find suitable images of a copyrighted work for inclusion as an article's lead image according to the requirements for non-free content, I was wondering if images of the copyrighted work posted by the copyright holder in a public Discord server fulfil criterion 4 for "Previous Publication". In short, are images posted by the copyright holder in public Discord servers considered to be "published"? Thanks for the help. ~2026-33064-13 (talk) 02:32, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hello, @~2026-33064-13. That question's a bit specialist: I suggest asking at WP:MCQ. ColinFine (talk) 16:00, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Footnotes

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I separated the footnotes from sources in Jason and the Argonauts (1963 film), but the former isn't showing up. What did I do wrong? Clarityfiend (talk) 03:05, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Clarityfiend: I think the problem could be with the <refn> syntax you used for the in-body notes; maybe <ref group=nb> will work better. You could also use WP:NFN with the syntax {{efn}} and {{notelist}} for the notes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:52, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Clarityfiend, one of your notes: <refn|group=nb|It took Ray Harryhausen well over three months to animate the skeleton sequence.</ref>. I haven't knowingly encountered refn before (I use Template:Efn) and so can't guess just what you're attempting here, but your markup treats refn a hybrid tag/reference, which can't be right. Perhaps use the combination of Template:Efn and Template:Notelist? Their docs are easy to digest and implement. -- Hoary (talk) 06:51, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I read WP:REFNEST rather than WP:REFGROUP. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:10, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Clarityfiend, WP:REFNEST recommends {{refn|group=nb|A footnote.<ref>A reference for the footnote.</ref>}}, but in your Harryhausen example you have the equivalent of <refn|group=nb|A footnote.</ref>}}: rather different. -- Hoary (talk) 09:40, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

typo on george michael page

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the line is "someone wrote the graffito "Wham!" It should be spelt Graffiti.

itd at the end of the legal problems section Damps (talk) 05:27, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

No, "graffito" in reference to a single piece is correct. (The word is Italian in origin, and "graffiti" is that word's plural form.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 05:31, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
You might look at graffito in Wiktionary. -- Hoary (talk) 06:38, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Can translate.google.com.ws be used as a source

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For titles like Hoʻoponopono, can we use translate.google.com.ws as a source to the english translation? Samoaa Fisho (talk) 05:55, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

You cite the original source. Translation services are just tools to help make sense of what is written. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 06:23, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
If this is for translations for individual words/phrases, since automatic translation tools are not reliable secondary sources, I do not think that it would be appropriate to cite Google Translate for the translation of a word or phrase. It would be more appropriate to cite a suitable dictionary or topical encyclopedia. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 12:46, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
That translation is sourced to Google translate and a dictionary and the dictionary is quoted later in the article. I would suggest removing Google translate as a source. TSventon (talk) 13:58, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Can someone please check James A. Garfield's wiki page and fix his potrait?

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Currently watching Death by Lightning and I checked the wiki page and got spooked by the portrait being Garfield the cartoon cat ~2026-33144-07 (talk) 09:59, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

check Already fixed. Thanks for the heads up! SomeoneDreaming (talk) 12:22, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Disabling Media Viewer for registered users

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Has the option to disable Media Viewer for registered users been removed? Whenever I click on an image it displays in Media Viewer and there seems no way to turn it off. There used to be an option under Preferences|Appearance to disable it, but that seems to have disappeared. WP:Media Viewer and its associated talk page are no help. There's some information at the foot of that page about adding some code to global.js but I tried that and it didn't work. --Viennese Waltz 10:00, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Nothing has changed for accounts that have already disabled it. I can't speak to the possibility of disabling it, but when I click on an image, I go straight to the image description page, just as I have ever since disabling it originally. Nyttend (talk) 20:16, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Lucky you. I also disabled it years ago, but now when I click on any image it opens in Media Viewer. Please could you check your Preferences > Appearance page? Do you have a box to enable or disable it, like this one? --Viennese Waltz 07:49, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Log-in issue

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Over the past week or so, I'm getting notices in the morning when I go to a page and try to do something like writing a message, asking me to log in because — for some unknown reason — I'm logged out even though the previous day I got a similar statement about being logged out and accordingly logged in as requested. So again I log in, only for the same thing to reoccur the following day.

I've never had this happen before and I can't think of anything unusual going on that might account for it. Help, please. Augnablik (talk) 12:45, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

It may be the browser. At the time of a web login, you are asked if you want to stay logged in for up to a year, and this sets a HTTP cookie. This should prevent login requests every time you visit the site. Try different browsers, and check that they are not clearing cookies when you close the browser.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:04, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
IanMacM (sounds like a braw Scottish name!), I have replied every time that I'm asked that I do want to stay logged in up to a year. That's what seemed particularly odd about this situation.
The browser I'm using is Chrome, but it's the same one I've been using for quite some time when I work in Wikipedia. Although I use other browsers, I'd really prefer to reserve Chrome just for my Wikipedia work for several reasons. Any other possible remedies? Augnablik (talk) 13:29, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
If you try replicating the fault with different devices and browsers, it may be possible to narrow down the fault to a particular device or browser. Then you could try uninstalling and reinstalling the browser that causes the problem.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:52, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The plot thickens. On the two other browsers I use, DuckDuckGo and Safari, I got mixed results: DuckDuckGo, fine—worked correctly as Chrome used to, with me logged in; Safari, same issue as Chrome recently, with me not logged in.
Now, if I follow step 2 of your advice and uninstall/reinstall Chrome, won’t I lose all my history, bookmarks, settings, and tab groupings? Augnablik (talk) 16:19, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Possibly, but it is often possible to export bookmarks and passwords and import them after reinstalling the app, eg with Chrome here.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:29, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
All right, I’ll give it a try if I can get up enough nerve. But why did this happen in the first place is what I’d like to understand … and is there anything I can do to prevent if from happening again? Augnablik (talk) 04:24, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Augnablik- Hmm, I would try asking at WP:VPT? They will probably know more about what's going on/can point you on how to make a bug report. Sarsenethe/they•(talk) 04:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, @Sarsenet. Augnablik (talk) 05:46, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I think you can archive this discussion now. Augnablik (talk) 07:59, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Trying to Give Helpful Information to a Ultra-Rare Community

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Hi, I am trying to edit the Glanzmann Thrombasthenia page to include an extremely valuable piece of information that will allow those who actually have the disease to reach out to someone else with it for the first time. It is that rare, one in a million.


It seems my change is dismissed everytime, I am trying to link to curegt.org. It is unfortunate that only the big players are allowed to be linked there, especially when they cannot offer meeting others with it. PeterZdziarski (talk) 18:19, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hello, @PeterZdziarski.
Please look at What Wikipedia is not.
A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.
Unless an independent reliable source (see WP:42) has talked about something, it may not go into an article, no matter how many people might find it useful - and for medical subjects we have a higher criterion for what is a reliable source: see WP:MEDRS.
I get that you are wanting to help people; but what you want to help them with is something which is not appropriate for Wikipedia. Sorry. ColinFine (talk) 18:29, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
That doesn't make sense to me at all. But ok. PeterZdziarski (talk) 18:42, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
PeterZdziarski I might also suggest that you read this page which goes into more detail about what ColinFine was saying. I think social media is probably a better place for you to do what you are trying to do.
I gather that you are probably affiliated with this organization? Please see conflict of interest.
I'm not sure what you mean by "the big players"; no other websites are linked to from that article. If you are referring to the sources, those sources are provided to support the information in the article, not as a means to promote an organization. 331dot (talk) 19:44, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
PeterZdziarski, some of what Colinfine said wasn't on topic — your initial comment sounded as if you'd added a big chunk of text about this organisation, and Colin's comment would have pertained to that. Basically, please remember that this page is an encyclopedia article, so the webpages of organisations in this field really shouldn't be included, simply because you can understand about this disease without knowing about an organisation for those with it. Our external links standards says that organisations' websites shouldn't be included like this, except when they're the official websites of the subjects, which is not the case here because the disease doesn't run the website. I'm sorry, but we have to distinguish links that are generally good (like yours) from links that are genuinely encyclopedic. Nyttend (talk) 20:33, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Essentially, @PeterZdziarski, it would be like if you walked down the street taping this website's URL to the front of random businesses. People tend to be under the mistaken impression that Wikipedia is some kind of one-stop-shop for all information and resources about a given topic, but we are not. Much like those random businesses in the street, we do not use our articles as bulletin boards where people can post whatever relevant links they would like. Athanelar (talk) 05:20, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
At this point, I've been told in every possible way why I am wrong and what is right. I will be unsubscribing from all future comments, but if more people want to tell me how I am wrong, providing a ton of links that I will not be clicking, go for it. PeterZdziarski (talk) 11:00, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Referencing errors on Eric Stephens (cricketer)

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Reference help requested. The ISBN in the book is 978-1-94907-46-8 - what is incorrect in this format? Thanks, DJohn73 (talk) 19:45, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

You only included twelve digits; ISBNs beginning with 978 are thirteen digits. Go back to the book itself and count the digits. If there are indeed only twelve, well, we can all blame the publisher for failing to comply with the standards, and someone else will have to help you because I won't know what to do. But if you missed one, just add it and things should be fine. Nyttend (talk) 20:35, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Editor Nyttend is somewhat mistook. Twelve digits are given here by OP, in the article, thirteen are given. Compare the error messaging:
ISBN 978-1-94907-46-8 {{isbn}}: Check isbn value: length (help)
ISBN 978-1-914907-46-8 {{isbn}}: Check isbn value: checksum (help)
Still the advice has value: Go back to the book itself and make sure that the ISBN provided in the {{cite book}} template matches the value provided in the book. If there is a digit-for-digit match, wrap the ISBN with accept-as-written markup; which see.
Trappist the monk (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
To the contrary: 13 is the worldwide standard. Ask any anglophone librarian (including me) about it, and you can get heaps of information. Nyttend (talk) 00:06, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I know that. But Qwerfjkl (bot) was highlighting Editor DJohn73's edit that created this broken reference (permalink) in which |isbn=978-1-914907-46-8 has thirteen digits. The attached error message is not complaining about length but is complaining that the checksum doesn't match the check-digit. Recalculating the check-digit (assuming that all other digits are correct) gives this:
ISBN 978-1-914907-46-3
but that is likely wrong, though worth the try, because neither google nor worldcat recognize that isbn as valid.
Trappist the monk (talk) 00:42, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Possibly ISBN 978-1-914407-46-8 . TSventon (talk) 00:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
(ec) Looking at the picture of the back of teh book on Amazon, the isbn is ISBN 978-1914407-46-8. DuncanHill (talk) 00:55, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Many thanks - the ISBN 978-1914407-46-8 seems to have worked, despite the actual book I have in front of me saying 978-1-914407-46-8 ! DJohn73 (talk) 10:40, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Is it possible to delete Hare and Wolf or does it need fixing

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So does the article Hare and Wolf need fixing because the article has one reference and that reference is not working. SillG (Hi! Want to talk?) 20:50, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hi Sillcosisgogol. In general, a WP:DEADLINK doesn't automatically mean the link has zero value to Wikipedia as a reliable source because sometimes a work-around can be found as explained in WP:DEADREF. A single link to YouTube, though, typically not sufficient in and of itself to establish the Wikipedia notability for a TV program per WP:NTV. Does this mean the article needs to be deleted? Not necessarily because someone (you perhaps) can WP:FIXIT and find additional sources to cite in the article to better establish the subject's Wikipedia notablity. A lack of notability can't be WP:OVERCOME, but a lack of reliable sources being cited sometimes can per WP:NEXIST if such sources can be found. Maybe a good thing to do in this case would be to ask the members of a WikiProject like WP:TV or WP:VIETNAM to take a look at the article to see whether there's a way to improve it or whether it can't be fixed. You should try to do a WP:BEFORE before nomininating, prodding or otherwise tagging any article for deletion just because it lacks cited sources because that's one of the first things you will be asked about if you don't and your self-assessment of the subject matter's Wikipedia notablity turns out to be incorrect. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:53, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
For background, it seems that an equivalent vi Wikipedia article, vi:Thỏ và Sói, was deleted in 2015 as it had no content. TSventon (talk) 22:02, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Marchjuly SillG (Hi! Want to talk?) 22:06, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Repairing old split

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Hello. I have been editing the page History of Notre Dame Fighting Irish football which I assumed was split out from Notre Dame Fighting Irish football given similar wording. Checked page history and yep that was at the main article first, but the creator (a since blocked user) back in 2009 did not provide attribution, and also the material was never removed from the main article, leading to an article that's 13151 words and seems to contain pretty much the entire text of the sub-article within it. I can edit out some of the detail from the main article, but I'm not sure what the proper steps are for attribution. A dummy edit now seems weird since the actual split was many years ago.... SomeoneDreaming (talk) 22:32, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

EasyTimeline extension fail to work on multiple articles.

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Several articles appear to have broken EasyTimeline renders. Examples include Star Trek, President of Vietnam, and President of the Philippines. In part of the page that would display the timeline, they instead shows the error message:

Timeline error. Could not store output files.

This does not appear to be limited to a single article, and may be affecting many other pages that use the EasyTimeline extension. I would like to know: What is the likely cause of this error? Is this something that can be fixed by editors, or does it require developer intervention? Is there a way to identify other affected pages across Wikipedia?

Any guidance or answer for any of the above would be appreciated. AjinGixtas (talk) 10:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@AjinGixtas: It's also reported at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Broken timelines and phab:T428063. The latter says: "Note: The cause is known and described on a private task." I guess that means we should just wait for a fix without discussing it more. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:12, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, hopefully that will be resolved soon. AjinGixtas (talk) 21:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Will you help Nicole Wolfe, please.

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I am Robert D. Gauthier. Will you assist the Commander in chief. ~2026-33390-79 (talk) 11:00, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia has no article about a Nicole Wolfe. Is the assistance related to Wikipedia? If so, please explain. -- Hoary (talk) 11:58, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Do you mean this person () otherwise I am confused what you are talking about. I love RYCBARM (talk) 13:31, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Logging in

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When I tried to login, I got a message saying that an e-mail was being sent to my registered address for verification. I have had this e-mail address for many years, and the redacted version looked correct. However, I never received an e-mail in either my inbox or spam folder. Attempting to reset my password with the "forgot password" ploy also failed. Can you help? My username is Herb Huston. ~2026-33246-45 (talk) 11:56, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@~2026-33246-45: If you know the password then mail ca@wikimedia.org. Don't send the password. Your mail provider may block mail from us as suspected spam so suggest another email address if possible. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:08, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
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The 2026 Men's European Volleyball Championship and 2026 Women's European Volleyball Championship are both linked as a hatnote on each other page but also on 'See also' section then I removed it but the creator, ILoveSport2006, undid it without explanation so I reverted by linking WP:HATNOTE and WP:NOTSEEALSO in my edit summary but then got undid and their edit summary is this: As I mentioned based off my experience. The links are useful. Isn't it WP:OL?

Here's a related volleyball discussion. 𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑 𝙼𝚎𝚜𝚜𝚊𝚐𝚎 𝚖𝚎 11:58, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

What's wrong with my explanation? I think it is a better one than just spewing Wikipedia links that people think we will read. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 13:08, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Article overwritten

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Dear all,

I have stumbled over the article Medianet, which had its subject changed in January 2026 (diff). Previously, it described a TV channel from the Maldives, now it details an Australian media analysis company.

I believe that, given notability of both subjects, there should be two articles, no? How to handle that, given the original article is currently overwritten? Best regards, Fallen Sheep (talk) 12:57, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I've restored it to the original topic; the user should submit a draft via the Article Wizard. I think they may be a paid editor. 331dot (talk) 13:03, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Wouldn't be surprised if this was a clever UPE avoiding scrutiny by hijacking an existing article. The Australian media company version of the article shows no signs of passing WP:NCORP. Athanelar (talk) 16:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@331dot In fact, I have immediately found offwiki evidence that proves without a doubt YangZhou0316 works for Medianet (the Australian company). Obviously I won't out the user by saying precisely how I did it, but I should imagine you can figure it out and find the evidence yourself. Athanelar (talk) 16:19, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your assistance, @331dot and @Athanelar! Fallen Sheep (talk) 18:07, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, I have been having trouble with the links I shared on my wiki page. It seems like one moment they turn blue and half an hour later it says page doesnt exist. But maybe worse is that I enter text and it is there when I open the sand box, but when I publish it is just gone. I have no idea how I will receive an answer with this request for help, but I hope you can sed me a notification or an email. Thanks in advance, Stefanie Namax71 (talk) 19:09, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Can you share more details? Your sandbox seems to have content in it right now. What happens when you click publish or try to add a link? In solidarity, 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 19:25, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Namax71: I have fixed a lot of syntax errors. See Help:Referencing for beginners. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:35, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply