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Need advice (GA, etc...)

So i want to level up as a editor. I've already made articles, but i want to one day make good articles as well. and i think i found the perfect one to make into a GA. so does anyone have good advice to make better articles? Monathephantom (talk) 02:02, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

For good articles specifically, you should look at the WP:Good article criteria for it to have a shot at getting nominated over at WP:GAN, but reading and referring to past good articles (either at /recent or /all) is also recommended. nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead) 02:27, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Monathephantom, did you use AI to create User:Monathephantom/sandbox? 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 02:34, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

oh and see WP:NOLLM nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead) 02:37, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

I admitted it before, but I sometimes use AI as a starting piece to improve pre existing articles

That Sandbox I didn’t use for the main article as I’m just fixing things from the sandbox and improving it enough to be in the encyclopedia Monathephantom (talk) 02:42, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

When doing that, are you checking every sentence against every reference in order to ensure the AI has not hallucinated? Otherwise you are risking willingly introducing tons of unverified content to articles. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 02:49, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes. Monathephantom (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

@Monathephantom The use of AI to write or edit article content is prohibited. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 03:43, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

@Monathephantom You said "I sometimes use AI as a starting piece to improve pre existing articles". AI often makes pre-existing articles worse, by adding unnatural-sounding or vapid prose, and sometimes distorting meaning. Plus, what 45dogs said. David10244 (talk) 03:36, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

@David10244 Hi friends, I totally get your concerns. The ai edits on my recent expansions has been removed and I’ve been just doing it myself in my own words Monathephantom (talk) 07:49, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

@Monathephantom Thanks for that. David10244 (talk) 14:12, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, can you please type your future GA- nomination here. Just wanted to check if there are any issues in the article. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 05:16, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

The article I really want to improve is Ever Oasis Monathephantom (talk) 12:22, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

I checked your article and noticed that the plot and development sections has no references. This might lead to a quick fail if the article is nominated for GA. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 14:45, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes. I'm working on getting it ready for GA Monathephantom (talk) 18:31, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

If a plot section doesn't have a citation, then it's assumed that it is cited to the game directly. So uncited plot sections are permissible, with the caveat that an uncited plot section can only have things that are plainly visible in the game without any sort of analysis, interpretation, or commentary. Those things would need separate citations. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 20:01, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Merging of 2 rugby league categories

I propose the merging of 2 rugby league categories, namely merging 'Cumberland rugby league team players' into the existing category 'Cumbria rugby league team players'. They are one and the same team, with Cumberland being the former name up until 1973.

I don't have the authority to do this myself, so I'm just putting it out there to 'the Powers that Be' to see their opinion. Robinson Drinkald (talk) 09:59, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

I like this idea. I do not have that authority either, but I see your thinking. Powerplay11 (talk) 10:42, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Robinson Drinkald, and welcome to the Teahouse.

The place to propose this is WP:CFD.

You might consider discussing it first at WT:WikiProject Rugby league; or alternatively, if you think it is likely to be uncontroversial, you can go ahead adn raise a proposal at CFD directly. (You might still post at the WikiProject saying that you have made the proposal and linking to it). ColinFine (talk) 11:00, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Many thanks, I'll do that.

Thanks again for your advice Robinson Drinkald (talk) 12:54, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

with Cumberland being the former name up until 1973. So surely the "Cumberland" category usefully only contains those players who were in the team before the name change? In that sense it's rather like other time period-specific categories. Athanelar (talk) 12:57, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Athanelar,

I see your point, however, there are a number of (albeit) clubs that have changed their names over time, for example, London Broncos, Salford, Midlands Hurricanes & Halifax, to name but a few, and none have time-period specific categories, with all former players - under the earlier guises - grouped into one category. The exception would be those clubs that have been resurrected, e.g. Hunslet, Newcastle Thunder & Sheffield Eagles, which ''do'' discriminate. Therefore, in the interests of consistency, I am proposing this merger. The country of Cumbria was created in the 1970s, as an amalgamation of Cumberland & Westmorland historic counties, and whilst there was a Cumberland rugby league team, there was no corresponding Westmorland rugby league team, even though Barrow-in-Furness (home of many players) was in Westmorland. Robinson Drinkald (talk) 12:48, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

"In the interest of consistency" is never a good idea on Wikipedia. Athanelar (talk) 14:04, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

But doesn't WP:OTHERCATSEXIST say that in some cases consistency is a desired trait of categorization schemes? JordyGrey _talk🧸 04:12, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Returning an article to the sandbox

Hi,

My first attempt was rejected and I wonder how I return my article to my sandbox to try again, please? Simon J Garrett (talk) 15:37, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Simon J Garrett. You draft is at Draft:Centre for Policy Research on Men and Boys, which is the best place for it. (It could be in your sandbox, but there's no reason to move it there from draft space).

If you haven't already seen WP:BOSS, I recommend you read it, and show it to your colleagues.

Also note that if somebody approaches you offering to write an article it is probably a WP:SCAM. ColinFine (talk) 16:19, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Coln,

Thanks for replying. I take it from your kind reply that I can edit it in drafts in the same way, presumably, as I did in the sandbox. Thanks for letting me know, and thanks for the Boss and Scam references. I'm not being bullied into anything, thankfully. I see dozens of other think tanks on here, and the organisation definitely deserves a page so I will stick at it, and no, I won't be falling for anyone offering to do it for me for cash. Apart from anything else I have too much pride (haha). Simon J Garrett (talk) 16:24, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello again, @Simon J Garrett. You certainly can edit the draft where it is.

I wasn't supposing that you were being bullied: it was rather that I suspected (and still suspect) that you and your organisation have a (very common) fundamental misunderstanding about what Wikipedia is.

Your use of the word "deserve" implies that you believe that a Wikipedia article about your organisation is in some way for its benefit.

While obviously many organisations (and other subjects) do get some benefit from Wikipedia having an article about them, that is no part of Wikipedia's purpose, and if an article is accepted, you and the organisation will have no ownership or control whatever of its contents. You will be welcome to make edit requests, but it is never up to you or your colleagues to decide what is in the article: it is up to uninvolved editors according to Wikipedia's policies.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

If it happens that those independent commentators say things about the organisation that matches what you would like to say, great. If they leave things out: tough. If they are critical, or even nasty: tough - that's what goes in the article, and you won't be able to put the genie back in the bottle.

And if there are few or no places where independent commentators have written in some depth about the organisation, then there cannot be a Wikipedia article about it (that's what the jargon word "notable" is about). "Deserve" doesn't enter into it (and neither does worthiness, by the way).

And the fact that in writing the article you will effectively have to forget everything you know about the organisation and stick to summarising what the independent commentators say is what makes writing an article even more difficult for editors with a conflict of interest than for other inexperienced editors.

I'm sorry that this sounds so negative; but the fact is that people in your position rarely succeed. My advice to you is that you put the whole idea aside, at least until you have gained some solid experience in editing and improving Wikipedia articles where you don't have a COI, and learnt about some of the principles and policies of Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 20:19, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Colin,

Thank you very much indeed for taking the time to come back to me. It really is very kind. I had managed to miss this reply as Athenalar had also responded below, for which my apologies. As I mentioned to him, I've looked at the entries for a number of other think tanks and can't imagine that they've been written by people at random, rather than the majority were produced by people with a vested interest, or else why write them at all? How would anyone know about The Institute for East West Strategic Studies or The Intergenerational Foundation? Indeed, as I mentioned in my reply to him, there are even examples where editors have suggested that pieces were indeed written by contributors with "a close connection to the subject." Genuinely, all I want to do is to meet the same criteria that allowed all those other think tanks to have approved entries, and I can't seem to find a common thread where they have succeeded where I am failing, but, I shall persevere. Simon J Garrett (talk) 13:41, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

@Simon J Garrett Make sure you see WP:OTHERSTUFF, which was also linked in this thread. David10244 (talk) 07:31, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@Simon J Garrett The other articles might never have been "approved", especially if they were created before sourcing standards were what they are now. David10244 (talk) 07:33, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, I will, I'm working my way through it all. Simon J Garrett (talk) 07:33, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

the organisation definitely deserves a page Simon, I wrote an essay about this sort of thing that might benefit you; it's at Wikipedia:No special considerations, maybe give it a read.

In a nutshell, you must understand that everybody who comes to Wikipedia trying to write an article about their organisation, particularly in the case of charitable or community organisations, obviously fully believes that the work their organisation does is so important/lifechanging/inspiring/[insert preferred buzzword] that they simply must have an article in our encyclopedia. But that's rather like demanding that a museum serve you coffee because coffee serves a very important societal function. It's not merely that the argument is 'wrong,' rather that it's just a complete non-sequitur; the function of the museum is just completely unrelated to serving coffee, regardless of how important coffee otherwise is for the general running of society.

Whether something 'deserves' a Wikipedia article or not is based entirely on whether it meets our criteria for inclusion for that particular topic; in this case WP:NCORP. These criteria are generally totally unrelated to whatever amazing deeds the organisation might have been involved in, or whatever incredible work or research they might support. Athanelar (talk) 21:58, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Athanelar,

Thank you so much for taking the time to come back to me on this. I've read your essay, and also What Wikipedia is not. I've also gone away and looked at a number of the entries on here catagorised under Think Tanks Based in the United Kingdom. I have to confess the latter excursion has left me even more baffled. My piece was rejected on the basis of insufficient evidence of corporate notability. It included significant references from a number of national and international media from The Observer and The Guardian to the New York Times, the register of Parliamentary APPGs and even GB News. I found quite a few examples of pages for other think tanks where these kinds of citations were completely lacking. I've also seen a number which have notes appended saying things such as, "This article relies excessively on references to primary sources," or "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject," and yet they have all been accepted. I have complete respect for the fact that you have strict rules for admission, and clearly, having such a regime is one of the things which makes Wikipedia a respected and valuable place to be. I want to obey the rules and produce something which does "deserve" to be here. On the above basis, I am really struggling to work out how. I've had it explained to me that external agencies and individuals claiming to be able to have articles accepted are generally scammers, and anyhow, I really want to manage this myself. I note in my rejection that "live help" is available, but I don't want to presume that someone would have the time to go through my draft line-by-line, so any advice on specifics as opposed to concepts would be really appreciated.

Once again, I really do appreciate you taking the time when you must be drowning in people writing inappropriate submissions. Simon J Garrett (talk) 13:19, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

To say and yet they have all been accepted is just not true; anybody with an account older than 4 days who has more than 10 edits can publish an article directly into mainspace without it being 'accepted' by anybody, and that's not even to mention the articles published more than around 10 years ago, before the AfC draft process even existed. This particular fallacy is so common it has its own page, too; WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. In short, to assume that all of those other articles have undergone the same level of scrutiny as yours is an error. It is very likely that if someone took the time to really review those articles (and a great many other articles on Wikipedia!) they would probably find them worthy of deletion; but deletion is not a fast or easy process, and so many subpar articles languish in the forgotten corners of the encyclopedia until someone determined enough does the needful. C'est la vie.

any advice on specifics as opposed to concepts would be really appreciated. When it comes to organisations, WP:CORPDEPTH is key. Charities, businesses, think tanks and the like tend to attract a lot of reporting on their everyday activities; "X charity donates Y tons of rice to Poor Country" "TechCorp raises $XBn in Series A funding" "TankThinc releases new report on rising rates of Bad Stuff", that sort of thing. None of that's useful to establish notability.

Forgive the copypasted boilerplate here, it's relevant; A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source. That's really the key. a neutral summary of what people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications. We're looking for in-depth coverage by people entirely unaffiliated with the company writing from a position entirely unaffiliated with the company (so no 'exclusive interviews' with the founders or important people, which is another very common thing). Athanelar (talk) 14:12, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks again for that, and I finally think I'm getting a small piece of a handle on what you mean, although it does feel quite arcane. So am I right in saying that notability has to be directly about the existence and nature of the organisation itself, and that articles about the research findings the organisation produces, for example, don't count? Simon J Garrett (talk) 15:18, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Exactly. Notability isn't (generally) based on what you do, it's based on what othrr people write about you. To prove that your organisation id notable, you have to show that other people entirely unconnected to it have decided, of their own volition, to write about it.

That's precisely why the overwhelming majority of organisations in the world simply don't meet the standard. Athanelar (talk) 16:47, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

I see. Thanks again. Simon J Garrett (talk) 16:50, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

@Simon J Garrett For another point, in case this moves forward, I suggest removing the Advisory Panel. Information like that does not help much in showing how the group is important, and it is hard to keep information like that up to date as time goes on. David10244 (talk) 23:38, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I can't change the culers

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i cant change the colurs ~2026-32979-83 (talk) 16:24, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Can you be more specific about what colored thing you are having trouble changing? In solidarity, 💫ΩmegaMantis💫^(she/her) ❦blather | ☞spy on me 18:02, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

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Stop removing my edits

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i make necessary and useful edits and they are removed. Ridiculous ~2026-26780-82 (talk) 17:59, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

First thing I'd say is relax. You barely gave the editor who reverted your edit four minutes to respond. Wikipedia is not social media, and it can take hours or even days for editors to respond.

Courtesy ping: GiantSnowman

In solidarity, 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 18:03, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

One edit was reverted, as part of a wider series of non-constructive edits (I simply restored the last clean version). This particular editor's edit was unsourced and in any event technically factually incorrect. GiantSnowman 19:09, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-26780-82 You listed the source on your Talk page, but the source needs to be in the article itself, so that anyone reading the article can check the source. So reverting the change was not ridiculous at all; it followed Wikipedia guidelines. David10244 (talk) 03:57, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

They did the same with me; there is a bunch/group likewise.

My sincere apologies; I'm not a spammer nor a behavioral bot.

As per them Britanñica Encyclopedia and Guinness Book are not good, genuine sources of information.

They will write as per their wish on Wikipedia. Also, to add I'm a South Indian. Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 09:29, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Here is an example or sample if you are a newbie and Indian like me. They will make a rule for what they do, so don't bother about it. I'm getting nothing from it for 7 months, not a single penny, but as I'm a job seeker. I continue my work of truth at 44.

Indian Removal Act

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act

We bow before thee!

For peace and prosperity. Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 09:48, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Just letting you know, I'm pretty sure that page is about Native Americans, not Indians. You don't need to do anything, I just wanted to make sure you knew :) JordyGrey _talk🧸 04:25, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Oh sure, I believe everyone at Tea House is aware of it now.

Just so you know, it's still followed by you. Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 07:05, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-26780-82: Your edits were reverted because they violated WP:NOR. Please add citations whenever you add information to a wikipedia article. Magic facewall (talk) 16:31, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

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I'm new

I have done a couple of edits on wikipedia, but I'm a bit uncertain if my additions are constructive or not. So I want so feedback on what I am doing ~2026-32965-64 (talk) 07:11, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Well, It seems like your edits are okay even though most edits are in Talk pages. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 08:01, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for answering my question. I am someone who asks a lot of questions, a habit of mine. ~2026-32965-64 (talk) 08:09, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Why don't you create an account. TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 08:13, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm still uncertain if making an account on my school e-mail is a good idea, as it's my last year on this school ~2026-32965-64 (talk) 08:17, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

You don't need to link an email address to your account if you don't want to. Athanelar (talk) 08:19, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

The world of wikipedia is not new to me, but editing is and i'm uncertain if i can do it long time (i'm still sitting on the fence about it) ~2026-32965-64 (talk) 08:23, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

I've also modified the template of the painter Edward to include 'The Accolade' as it's one of his paintings. ~2026-32965-64 (talk) 10:21, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

I started a rfd and I think I accidentally put a vote to redirect, due to me copying the structure from somebody else. ~2026-32965-64 (talk) 07:47, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

You dont have to mention all your edits in the Teahouse. Please read WP:BOLD TheGreatEditor024 (talk) 08:27, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I've been reading the wikipedia for a long time, so boldly editing what I will (attempt) to do ~2026-32965-64 (talk) 09:20, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Requesting review for my first draft: Hill Surang

Hi everyone,

I am a new editor here and this is my very first Wikipedia article. I have created a Draft:Hill Surang, which is a village located in the Dhirkot Tehsil, Bagh District of Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK).

I have submitted it for review and i have tried my best to added reliable, independent sources, and academic citations regarding the area.

Could an experienced reviewer please check my draft and let me know if it is formatted correctly or if it needs any changes? I would highly appreciate your guidance.

Thank you!

BB Janjua (talk) 12:20, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

@BB Janjua Accepted Also please note that

1) There are some issues, which I've marked in the article, but overall the article passes.

2) The "Notable people" section is for people who pass notability guidelines for biographies only, which I've deleted since both entries don't show so.

3) Drafts submitted to Articles for Creation are reviewed in no particular order, and there is no set time when a draft is reviewed since its submission. nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 15:06, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

{{tq| ~2026-33192-07 (talk) 15:09, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

? nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 15:10, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Hill Surang is situated in the rugged terrain of Azad Jammu and Kashmir. Travelers coming from Murree enter Azad Kashmir after crossing the historic Kohala Bridge. The main road runs for about two minutes before branching to the right near the ZIC petroleum pump. Roughly one kilometer further, Dhirkot Road splits from the main highway, running directly through the center of Hill Surang village and Hill Bazar before reconnecting with the primary route: This is not something I would find to read inside an encyclopedia. Phrases like “travelers coming from Murree,” “runs for about two minutes,” “branching to the right near the ZIC petroleum pump,” and “roughly one kilometer further” sound like a guidebook, local directions, or original observation ~2026-33192-07 (talk) 15:14, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

this is their first article chill tf man nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 15:15, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

this is not an usual behaviour and way of replying. Morris (talk with this worm) 15:20, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

im not usual a lot of the time and i consistently forget social context so.... nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 15:23, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @nhals8, thank you so much for reviewing and accepting my very first article! I really appreciate your guidance and for supporting me as a new editor. I completely understand the points raised about the guidebook style and the notable people section. I am learning the Wikipedia formatting step by step and will clean up the geography section right away to make it sound more encyclopedic. Thanks again! --BB Janjua (talk) 15:55, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

I will say, that would probably be useful over at Wikivoyage, although I must admit I'm not very familiar with their policies. Have you considered contributing there, @BB Janjua? Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 21:54, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Commandant Quacks-a-lot, thank you for the wonderful suggestion! Since I am brand new to editing, I am still focusing on understanding Wikipedia's policies first. However, Wikivoyage sounds like a fantastic platform, especially for beautiful areas like Azad Kashmir, and I will definitely look into it in the future. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! --BB Janjua (talk) 08:55, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, of course! Happy editing! Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 14:21, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@BB Janjua I see the article has been improved, with things like "running about two minutes" being rightly removed. It's much better now. David10244 (talk) 07:43, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @David10244, thank you so much for the encouragement! As a new editor, I am doing my best to learn the formatting and encyclopedic style. I really appreciate you taking the time to check the improvements! --BB Janjua (talk) 08:56, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@BB Janjua You are welcome. David10244 (talk) 07:36, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Concerns about event "Wiki loves Pride" title and NPOV.

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"Wikipedia:Neutral point of view" page is saying that: "Usually, articles will contain information about the significant opinions that have been expressed about their subjects. However, these opinions should not be stated in Wikipedia's voice" and "A neutral point of view neither sympathizes with nor disparages its subject". I think that "Wiki loves Pride" clearly sympathizes with subject, which is violating NPOV rules. Am I right? ~2026-33177-47 (talk) 13:50, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

No. Wiki Loves Pride is not an article. If you don't love pride, you're free to eschew participation. Deor (talk) 14:11, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

it's just an event that you can ngaf about. and per deor, it's not an article or obvious hoax stuff and thus doesn't qualify under wp:npov nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 15:00, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

As with all the "wiki loves" events, you don't really need to have any opinion at all on the subject matter in order to participate or not. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 15:04, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

@DandelionAndBurdock It’s an event covering LGBT issues so it’s sadly been hounded by the hateful people around. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 17:01, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure you mean that I'm this "hateful" person but keep in mind that I didn't express any hate towards LGBT. I just think that wiki should be neutral, no matter of the subject. And I think that was the point of wikipedia. ~2026-33177-47 (talk) 17:20, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Although now I see that there are multiple "Wiki loves" which are associated with different things. ~2026-33177-47 (talk) 17:27, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

There was something similar a few months ago with regards to Wiki Loves Ramadan which attracted a lot of opinions which were, shall we say, rather revealing about the people making them. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^MUSHROOM 01:47, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

highkey you shouldn't assume hate from people who question neutrality nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 01:25, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@Electricmemory nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 01:41, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Given the attempts to manufacture furore over Wiki Loves Ramadan, can you blame them for thinking that? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 01:52, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

i would partially attribute to the fact that no one gaf to actually start Wiki Loves Lent, Wiki Loves Xmas, etc. despite no barriers stopping them, and partially to people assuming that just because Wiki Loves Ramadan, it must mean that Wiki doesn't love every other Abrahamic religion, which is alr a problematic fallacy in itself,,

there should be more awareness of the fact that WMF or « Wikipedia » as an individual isn't the only authority and decider on whether something has Wiki Loves or not nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 02:06, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Zero-sum thinking, isn't it? HyperAnd [talk] 04:06, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Please state which section of the guideline says this. Quote your sources before you make such a bogus claim. Magic facewall (talk) 17:19, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

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Biocomputers are animals or not?

My edit was deleted by Donald Albury, and we're having discussion about whether biocomputers should be added to list of animals by number of neurons or not.

I think that these biocomputers should be added to list - as they use living neurons to compute, and therefore are living beings. In other words, biocomputer runs on Isolated brain - albeit, a brain smaller than bee's brain. --~2026-32876-56 (talk) 16:47, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-32876-56, and welcome to the Teahouse.

When you have a disagreement with another editor, dispute resolution explains what steps you can take. ColinFine (talk) 17:32, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

We define whether something is an animal based on whether reliable sources say something is an animal. If reliable sources largely characterize a bottle of ketchup as an animal, then so do we. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 18:58, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

But ketchup is a vegetable, not an animal, yeah?--Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:13, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Man, given the history of ketchup and this, I really should have gone with mustard! CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 15:22, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@CoffeeCrumbs: I quite agree! Mustard is definitely an animal. --Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 08:23, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-32876-56 Did your update include an inline source? David10244 (talk) 07:45, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Feedback about Draft Chronicles and possible publication

Hello,

I created the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Spacetime_Chronicles about the Italian animated feature film Spacetime Chronicles, selected for Annecy 2026 Contrechamp.

Since I am the film's director, I am aware of the conflict of interest guidelines and would prefer not to move the article into mainspace myself.

Could someone please advise whether the current draft appears sufficiently sourced and neutral for possible publication by an independent editor, or if further improvements are recommended first?

Thank you. Stefanobertelli1981 (talk) 17:29, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Stefanobertelli1981, and welcome to the Teahouse.

Because of your conflict of interest, you are required to submit it for review, rather than moving it to mainspace yourself. I have added a header so that you can do so. ColinFine (talk) 17:35, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Please format your citations to give more information - at least, author and date as well as publication. Also note how to reuse citations. See WP:REFB.

You should also put a declaration of your COI with respect to this draft on your user page (as well as the existing one for an article about you). ColinFine (talk) 17:39, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

In fact, I see that your COI declaration on your user page refers to an autobiography which you (wisely) have not created. I suggest you change it to refer to this draft. ColinFine (talk) 17:45, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello,

I have now updated the draft with additional independent sources, formatted citations and a COI disclosure on my user page, following the advice above.

Since the draft has already been submitted through AfC, I understand it may take time to be reviewed. Would it now be preferable to simply wait for the AfC review process, or could an uninvolved editor potentially move the draft to mainspace if considered ready?

Thank you.

Stefanobertelli1981 Stefanobertelli1981 (talk) 06:22, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Could they? Probably. Should they? No, and why would any uninvolved editor think to do so?

Note that while the Draft is waiting for review, you (and anyone else who wants to) are free to add to and/or improve it further.

I notice that you have uploaded the film poster (at high resolution) to Wikipedia Commons: this means you have formally made it available to anyone to re-use it for any purpose, including commercial, so long as its creator (presumably yourself) is acknowledged: was this your intention?

(More usually for film posters, book covers, etc., a low-resolution "non-free" thumbnail image is uploaded directly to en.Wikipedia for single use in the item's article only; this can only be done with an accepted Article, not a Draft, but the presence or absence of any image in the Draft has no bearing on whether the Draft will be accepted or not. Once it is accepted, the image can be inserted. See Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria for details.)

I notice in the draft you have written:

". . . the French sales company Urban Sales boarded the film for international sales . . ."

As a layperson, I do not understand what this presumably film-industry jargon means; could you re-phrase it? Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 14:24, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

On articles about companies

Hello, all! Are articles about companies meant to/allowed to have lengthy lists of past clients or business partners? Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} -⃝⃤ (they/he) In solidarity. 21:57, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

It's not recommended unless it's reported in reliable sources. Also consider due weight. Sesquilinear (talk) 00:23, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I thought so. Thanks for the quick reply! Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} -⃝⃤ (they/he) In solidarity. 03:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

a lot of this site is either american or indian

a large amount of this site focuses on mostly american or indian stuff. why is that?

same with the userbase. 50% americans, 50% indians ~2026-28273-33 (talk) 03:30, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Two of the biggest groups of English-speakers in the world. Sesquilinear (talk) 03:35, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I use this site. I am neither American nor Indian. Perhaps your percentages aren't quite right. ~2026-32005-40 (talk) 04:28, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

i feel like OP awnsered their own question here. A lot of the users are from those countries and Wikipedia is written by its users, what more explanation do you need? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 06:30, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

yeah i get it. my question already got answered ~2026-28273-33 (talk) 08:14, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Help editing SVG images

Hi all,

I've found an image that I would like to edit to be a bit clearer (this flag of japan construction sheet), I'd just like to change some text but I'm not sure exactly what the protocol is around editing images. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks. ERSthan (talk) 03:46, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @ERSthan, this file is hosted on Commons, so the protocol is commons:Commons:Overwriting existing files. Generally, you can make minor uncontroversial changes. If there is a dispute, the file can be discussed at its Commons talk page. CMD (talk) 04:09, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Note that by default, only autopatrollers on Commons can overwrite files uploaded by other users. If you want to overwrite the file, you will need to wait until your Commons account is 4 days old (12:25 UTC, 7 June 2026) to be autoconfirmed and request allowing overwriting at c:Commons:Overwriting existing files/Requests. HyperAnd [talk] 04:24, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Are alterative videogame boxarts allowed for fair use?

Is anyone knows are Videogame boxarts are even allowed to be use in as for fair use in copyright friendly? Troyboy770 (talk) 04:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Context: c:User talk:TroyToonTrotStudios#File:Magna Carta - Crimson Stigmata Coverart.png — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:48, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Files on Wikimedia Commons must be freely-licensed (fair use doesn't count, I think you're conflating "fair use" and "free-licensing"). There is freely-licensed boxart, but those are very rare. Some examples are c:File:Freedom Planet boxart.jpg and c:File:Fez (video game) cover art.png. These files are allowed on Commons because the artists explicitly released them under a free license (which most do not). I recommend reading c:COM:THIRD for more context. That being said, English Wikipedia does allow local non-free files, albeit with strict criteria. HyperAnd [talk] 06:33, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

HyperAnd, their question was (but their English not so good) if an alternate cover for Magna Carta: Tears of Blood could be uploaded as fair use here. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 07:00, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. Though, for this case, it may fail criterion 3a as stated here: Minimal number of items. Multiple items of non-free content are not used if one item can convey equivalent significant information. HyperAnd [talk] 07:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I know my grammar isn't good, but it is what I really tried to make. Troyboy770 (talk) 11:40, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm sorry for my stupidest things to that boxart. Troyboy770 (talk) 13:18, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

wiki citation

Please explain how to insert second citation which was already cited in the text. When i try to do citation as described I obtain doubliсation in reference list ~2026-33286-18 (talk) 05:27, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

WP:REFNAME should be useful to you. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 05:44, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

if you're on visual editor, either (1) click on the citation, ctrl c, and ctrl v where you wanna re-reference it, or (2) utilize the re-use section in the « add citations » menu; but otherwise refnames are useful nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 06:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Ok. Troyboy770 (talk) 13:17, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

2026 Mogadishu war

anyone welcome to create three days ongoing war in Mogadishu, here the news link; Reuters AP NBC NYT QalasQalas (talk) 06:51, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, QalasQalas, you'd be welcome to create an (of course policy-compliant) article about this war. ("War" might be an exaggeration. But use the term, or one of the terms, that your reliable sources use.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

many WP:RS used battle erupts so what if we used to 2026 Mogadishu battle. QalasQalas (talk) 07:06, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

That sounds a bit odd to me. However, my opinion on this matter isn't worth much. You could ask the experts at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. -- Hoary (talk) 07:17, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Pending Changes Reviewer?

How can I become a Pending Changes Reviewer? What requirements and experience are normally expected before applying for the permission? And my recent edit is matches for this rights? A1-K (talk) 07:47, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@A1-K see WP:PCCRITERIA nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 09:07, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks(: A1-K (talk) 09:34, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Topic: Digital Sansad

To. The HR department. Wikimedia Foundation. Wikipedia talk:Teahouse. Inc.1 Sansome Street. Suite 1895, San Francisco. California 94104. USA.

Subject: Addition of links, website or URLs from "Digital Sansad" at India.

Respected, dear, distinguished dignitary members. I'm hereby humbly writing to request you to let us know if we can go ahead and add links pertaining to individuals of your divine kind nation as available on this domain/link/URL/website, /https://sansad.in/ls/dashboard. I'm sure it'll be beneficial, helpful, and useful to many. I genuinely request you not to revert the same after the addition/change/edition of the pages pertaining to your kind reputable association/company/organization Wikipedia. I'm sure you will all oblige and do the needful at the earliest. I'm eagerly waiting for your early kind confirmation and soon reply. I'm a South Indian; I'm aware of 3 dialects. I'm unpaid, unemployed member at 44. Any contributions would really be appreciated. Today's food is my parents's grace.

Thank you.
Your's faithfully.
Nandan M.
Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 07:55, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Nandanmwikipedia, (i) Please reread what Paper9oll and Tacyarg wrote on your talk page in March. Both Paper9oll and Tacyarg pointed you to WP:EL; please reread that too. (ii) Above, you ask "if we can go ahead and add links"; who are "we"? (iii) Above, you write of "your divine kind nation"; which nation is this? -- Hoary (talk) 08:42, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Sir/ma'am.

GA/GD/GW God's grace at India.

My sincere thanks for your kind reply. This is in reference to my reading and your queries.

(i) WP:ELOFFICIAL

(ii) This was with reference to any/all members likewise.

(iii)In the subject, as I've mentioned, the country's name. I was referring to the same.

I hope I've answered all; I request your excuse for any other obligations pertaining to the topic.

Thanks

NMW. God bless USA and its associations. Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 09:50, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Also note that this is not the "HR department of the Wikimedia Foundation". We aren't Foundation employees. 331dot (talk) 10:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Noted, thank you again for the good information. You've been the best, my friend. Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 10:05, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

And please stop it with the proselytising. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 22:27, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

GM/GD God's grace at India.

Prayers for peace, progress, and prosperity prevail. People's pride, personal, private & public property—please participate, but I'm not a saint. Pls excuse me. I'm a mere messenger of peace like your pope! Ameen 🙏🏼.

@Jéské Couriano! Always available at your assistance. You are welcome to visit us for a cappuccino.

Thank you.

Yours faithfully.

Nandan M. Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 01:06, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Nandanmwikipedia "I'm unpaid, unemployed member at 44. Any contributions would really be appreciated". Are you asking for monetary contributions for yourself, or a contribution to the article? David10244 (talk) 07:42, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Content assessment

I'm interested in learning article assessment on Wikipedia. Which tools, gadgets, or user scripts should I install to help assess article quality and importance ratings correctly? A1-K (talk) 10:33, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I personally use User:Evad37/rater for article assessments. The page explains how to access the user script once you install it. Mikeycdiamond (talk) 15:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for recommend this (: A1-K (talk) 15:04, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Pending DYK submission

Hello everyone! I created an article and DYK sudmission, but it hasn't been reviewed yet. My other 2 DYKs were reviewed very quickly so am just wondering if mine has been missed? Or is there anything else that I need to do? It is here Thanks so much! I&I22 (talk) 11:13, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

It is just a matter of waiting. Eventually someone will get to your DYK nomination, but there isn't a particular order for reviews. It will get done when someone takes an interest in your DYK. Mikeycdiamond (talk) 11:20, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks so much @Mikeycdiamond! And you have a very fascinating collection of articles and interests, wow! Awesome and yay, I will wait on then. Thanks again I&I22 (talk) 12:22, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

going live

Howdy. Can someone tell me how/when an article goes 'live'? My article Charley Lang has been in article space since March. Thanks! LittleSinners2026 (talk) 14:05, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Your article is "live" and public. What makes you think it's not?

What is your connection to Mr. Lang? You took a picture of him. 331dot (talk) 14:07, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

When I google his name, the wikipedia page does not show up. Thats why I thought it was not live.

Im a good friend. LittleSinners2026 (talk) 14:13, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

You should disclose your status as a conflict of interest on your user page(see WP:COI) and abide by that policy going forward.

It takes time for search engines to index articles- and that cannot occur until either the article is reviewed by a New Pages Patroller, or 90 days have passed. NPP has a significant backlog at the moment. 331dot (talk) 14:15, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

If you want to see if Wikipedia has the article, use the search function in Wikipedia: that will work as soon as the article is live. (Which it is!) Search engines may have a substantial delay. M kuhner (talk) 05:07, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

To check if an article is live, use Wikipedia's search function: that will always work. Search engines have a delay. M kuhner (talk) 05:14, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Changing language

Hello I wanted to write an article about a game in English but since I'm from Poland, all the links i give are still in Polish. I assume a person clicking "puzzle video game" doesn't want to be redirected into a polish article but rather an english one. How can i change that? Alternatively i could also write the article in Polish first and then translate to English, but this is more work. WhitePumpkin2 (talk) 15:23, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello. Sources do not need to be in English, as long as they are reliable sources.

It's probably be better for you to write it here first, as the English Wikipedia is likely stricter than the Polish Wikipedia in terms of policies and what is acceptable content. It would be easier for you to translate the English article into Polish rather than the other way around. 331dot (talk) 15:37, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@WhitePumpkin2: I translated pl:Kobiety w Wojsku Polskim to Women in the Polish Army a few months ago, & I hope what I did with the Polish citations in the English version of the article might be useful to you. First, I used |language=pl in the citation templates, which were mostly {{cite book}} & {{cite web}} templates. I also added a translation of the title using the |trans-title= parameter.

Incidentally, if you see any improvements or anything that is mistranslated, please feel free to make corrections! Peaceray (talk) 21:15, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Reliable Sources and Writing References

Hello,

I'm trying to publish an article for my manager and I'm having extreme difficulty. I am not an editor which makes this even more difficult. The article "David J. Reibstein" continues to get declined and I don't understand why. The feedback says that reliable sources are needed and that if I need help referencing to visit the referred page. I thought that the references was written correctly. Can someone please help? Nichol40 (talk) 17:18, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Nichol40.

Have you read WP:BOSS, and shown it to your manager? If you haven't, you need to.

Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 18:12, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Nichol40, please read Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure very carefully. -- Hoary (talk) 00:06, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Assistance with an External Link request on Talk:John Stafford Geddes

Hello! I am a new editor and a family member of the late cardiologist Dr. John Stafford Geddes. I have created a digital archive dedicated to his historical medical publications and his pioneering work with the Belfast Flying Squad. Following Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest (COI) protocols, I posted a formal request on the article's Talk page last Sunday asking if an independent editor could add this archive link to the page. Because the article is a low-traffic page, my request hasn't been reviewed yet. Could a friendly volunteer please visit Talk:John Stafford Geddes to review the request and, if appropriate, add the external link for me? I would deeply appreciate the help! Geddess (talk) 17:31, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Geddess, I've added it. -- Hoary (talk) 00:14, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Hoary, for stepping in so quickly and adding the link to the archive! I really appreciate your help. Have a great day. Geddess (talk) 20:22, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Hoary, thank you again for your help! I realized there is one more highly authoritative, non-commercial link that would greatly benefit the article's external links section. It is my father's official post-mortem biography maintained by the Royal College of Physicians:

https://history.rcp.ac.uk/inspiring-physicians/john-stafford-geddes

If you have a spare moment, would you mind adding this to the External Links section as well? It would serve as an excellent official reference for researchers. Thank you so much for your time! Geddess (talk) 19:14, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Apologies for the formatting mix-up in my previous comment! To clarify, I am hoping an independent editor can add the Royal College of Physicians biography link (https://history.rcp.ac.uk/inspiring-physicians/john-stafford-geddes) down into the External links section at the bottom of the page alongside the archive link.

Even though it is currently used as an inline footnote citation, having it clearly visible under External Links will make it much easier for researchers to find his full official biography immediately. Thank you again! Geddess (talk) 19:22, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Photos

I have used my own photos to add to historic places, but how do I use photos from the web to update wikipedia? For example, if I want to add a photo I find on the web to a wikipedia page, do I save it and then add it to the article? If a photo is on a public website, does that mean it is in the public domain? For example, could I save this photo that appeared in the Knoxville News Sentinel and attach it to a wikipedia article? https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/d220e92cb2d2c83c9589f24e836f5a591aff2939/c=208-0-4042-5112/local/-/media/2016/11/19/TennGroup/Knoxville/636151689396071955-ArthurQ-with-Ernest-Tubb.jpg?width=180&height=240&fit=crop Mlsmith1962 (talk) 20:03, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Mostly, you do not. Photos that aren't clearly in the public domain by age have to actively show a Wikipedia-compliant copyright notice in order to be used (see WP:COPYRIGHT). There is an exception for WP:NONFREE content, but the content in question must satisfy all 10 listed criteria. You can also ask the copyright holder to donate their material to Wikipedia under a WP:CCBYSA-compliant license. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 21:52, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Mlsmith1962, your link to the photograph isn't as informative as a link to the page in which you found the photograph would be. -- Hoary (talk) 00:03, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Mlsmith1962 "If a photo is on a public website, does that mean it is in the public domain?" Really, really, not. Make it your default assumption that any random pic you see online is under copyright and can't be used on Commons or WP. The pic has some info here , but it doesn't tell us for example when it was taken. More info at COM:THIRD.

That said, if there is a WP-article (not draft) about a a dead person, and you can't find a "free" pic, then you can use a non-free pic on en-WP as WP:LEADIMAGE. You upload those by going to WP:FUW and pick "Upload a non-free file". Malcolm Tierney is an example. If a "free" pic is later found, the non-free will get kicked out. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:45, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myles_Moylan

There has been dispute over Major Myles Moylan's place of birth - Tuam,Co Galway or Amesbury, Massachusetts.There is one citation supporting Moylan's place of birth as Amesbury - the Congressional Medal of Honor Society (https://www.cmohs.org/recipients/myles-moylanhttps://www.cmohs.org/recipients/myles-moylan). That website has recently posted the following - Myles Moylan served many years in the U.S. Army. During that time, he gave varying places of birth. Sometimes it was Amesbury, Massachusetts, and sometimes it was Tuam, County Galway, Ireland. Birth records show that he was, indeed, born in Ireland. Official Army records continue to show his birthplace as Amesbury because that is the place of birth he gave when he started the enlistment for which he earned the Medal of Honor. As of now, there is no supporting evidence for his Amesbury birth. All evidence suggests he was at least Irish. How can I delete Amesbury as his place of birth on his Wikipedia profile? BuffyO'B (talk) 20:59, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

When sources contradict each other, we cite them both. X says 123, but Y says 456, based on this reasoning. DS (talk) 22:22, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

That is a good way to handle a contradiction, and would certainly work. I'm not sure this is a contradiction, though, given the recent clarification. I think you could reasonably say he was born in Galway, and add something like "Army records show him as being born in Amesbury, Massachusetts, as that was the birthplace he gave on enlistment" sourced to the above. M kuhner (talk) 05:03, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I'd go with stating he was born in Galway, and then when it comes to his Army career, state that he claimed he was born in Massachusetts when he enlisted in the US Army, sourcing both. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 05:20, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Quest ion 5

where do find a wikipedia page where letting user know if the sources is considered reliable. TBB (talk) 23:03, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I don't quite understand what you mean, but you might be looking for WP:RS/Perennial sources. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 23:07, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

a question about edits being removed

Hello Ckatl, what do you mean that my Jacky Ward edits is not constructive enough? I was giving out more up to date information, why would you remove my edits? I am curious.

Please let me know.

best regards,

Qix2x

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qix2x#c-Ckatl-20260605235800-June_2026 Qix2x (talk) 00:06, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Courtesy ping: Ckatl ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 00:10, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Qix2x,

Thanks for asking! That specific change was reverted because changing a biographical timeline from "over 20 years" to "over 41 years" requires an inline reliable source [WP:V].

Because this is a Biography of Living Persons (BLP), Wikipedia policies are very strict about ensuring all details, especially dates and timelines are fully backed up by a citation. You are more than welcome to re-add the updated timeline if you can include a reliable source to verify it! Happy editing. Ckatl (talk) 00:14, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

There's more. You had the article say After leaving Mercury in the early 1980s, Ward briefly signed with Asylum Records, releasing a cover of Ricky Nelson's "Travelin' Man" in the same year in 1982, He has released four singles, alongside his final studio album: Night After Night <ref>. That <ref> causes a cock-up. (I've had to use "nowiki" to deactivate the "ref" tags, in order to prevent a major cock-up here too.) It's unreferenced (but admittedly what it replaced was unreferenced too). The punctuation is odd and the result ambiguous: does "in 1982" describe the release of the cover, or the releases of four singles and an album? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 03:23, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

How to add non-displayed non-wiki note for future editors?

 Courtesy link: WP:Edit filter/False positives/Reports § Enquire

I want to add a non displayed message to help future editors. I seem to recall that the syntax was <no-code> </no-code> or <no-wiki> </no-wiki> - but neither worked - what would?
Enquire (talk) 00:14, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Try this: <!-- Your message --> ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 00:16, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

<nowiki> is so your code doesn't display. For instance, if you were trying to explain to someone how to use a wikilink, you would say something like "Type this: Cat" but then the user can't see the square brackets. Using <nowiki> and </nowiki> on either side makes the square brackets visible (sorry, I tried to explain that coherently but I'm not sure it worked). ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 00:20, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

For what @JohnLaurens333 meant

This is without nowiki: cow

This is with nowiki [[cow]] nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 13:54, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, I'm sure you have to start the comment with for example <!-- this is a comment --> . Ckatl (talk) 00:17, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

For reference, this concerns a reference which is dead but has Archive.today screenshots. (The Wayback Machine doesn't have any functional snapshots of the site.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 01:16, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Enquire The sort of non-displayed message, that can only be seen when editing in source mode, requires specific markup, so <!-- Anythin within this area is hidden -->. See WP:HIDDEN Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:07, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, this is precisely what I was looking for. I must have used this in the past, but not recently, so a good refresher.

Enquire (talk) 00:43, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Visual Editor formating troubles

Hello,

I just made a relatively major edit re-organizing and improving the references of some sections of the Ebola vaccine page.However, I use the visual editor so certain things got messed up.To clarify, the problem is NOT that there is untrue/missing information.The problem IS that certain templates look ugly and weird.

My 2 specific questions are:

1.How do I add colours to my table, because rigth now only 1 box has a colour?

2.How can I precisely move (when I try it just jumps from paragraph to paragraph) the "Articles related to the" box ?Where should I move it to because currently I can't find a good spot? A Nerdy Hedgehog (talk) 00:35, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Only one box in that table has a color because it is the only one wrapped in a {{ClinicalStudyInfo}} template, and the color is being added by that template. I suggest reading up on the template and either using it for every entry in that table column, or none. Here's the documentation: Template:ClinicalStudyInfo. M kuhner (talk) 08:41, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Just to add--if you want help taking out this template, or using it for the whole column, ping me and I can try. Taking it out is easy. Putting it everywhere might require additional information. M kuhner (talk) 08:55, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

First of all of thank you for the help!!

I wanted to give you an update.So I looked at the template, realized it wasn't exactly what I wanted and that I definetely didn't know how to customize to make it how I wanted (I tried mucking around for a bit but it was just too complicated).I was able to get rid of it pretty easily (Command C Command V a cell that didn't have and that was pretty much it )and then with the help of some googling i figured out I didn't need a template to change the colours and that I could do it manually by inserting

| style="background: #afe0ba ;"

before the cell I wanted to change the colour of

So now it has colours!!!

Yay! (◕‿◕) A Nerdy Hedgehog (talk) 21:47, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Yay! Looking good. No idea about the other question, sorry. M kuhner (talk) 22:40, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

No worries! A Nerdy Hedgehog (talk) 01:03, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Apropiate image for video game side bar?

I want to get an image for the side bar of a video game that just released. Since there's currently no box art, I was guessing an image of the logo for the game I got from their press kit would suffice, but it's not clear to me what counts as an acceptable image to use, as images generally have to have the proper licensing, but it seems common practice for game pages to use box art for the side bar image (I'm just not sure what usage of images would be permittable). Thanks! Wik206 (talk) 02:31, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

See the WP:Image use policy. Athanelar (talk) 07:14, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Would this fall under WP:PROMO?

Would it be allowed to make a post on the Teahouse spreading the word of the Wiki Workers United labor union petition/editorial strikes, to gain more on-wiki signatures? Perhaps pin some kind of notice or reference to it? Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} -⃝⃤ (they/he) In solidarity. 03:31, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I see what you've done there, Shadestar474. (But if it's a serious question, then delete this entire thread, and repost your question on WT:Teahouse.)-- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 03:34, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

This is very spammy. See, for example, Wikipedia:Canvassing#Spamming and excessive cross-posting.

The teahouse isn't even the right place to be asking for editors as the petition is supposed to be only signed by editors whose work stoppage has an impact/are much more experienced than new. You've also posted this to all the reference desks. In solidarity, Aaron Liu (talk) 04:12, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Ah, apologies if that was against the rules; I thought CANVASS didn’t apply since it isn’t a consensus-building petition, and since Tamzin’s essay did say nothing prevents striking editors from lobbying other editors to join, even in strongly-worded terms, so long as they are civil and do not harass people. However, I have reverted myself nonetheless. Thanks for replying! Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} -⃝⃤ (they/he) In solidarity. 04:31, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you too! That's an interesting though lawyerly argument. By the spirit of the guideline, I think only the campaigning, votestacking, and signature-advertising parts shouldn't apply as numbers do not unduly affect the outcome, while the other parts have a lot more reasons than that. In solidarity, Aaron Liu (talk) 17:17, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

That’s fair; will be more careful on that kind of thing from now on. Cheers! 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} -⃝⃤ (they/he) In solidarity. 01:38, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Guidelines for character adaptation articles?

Hey! Similarly to articles such as Gwen Stacy (Spider-Verse) and several for Batman (1989, Dark Knight, DCEU, etc), I think there's a decent chance that the specific adaptation of Wednesday Addams as she appears in the series Wednesday could warrant its own article. I've already started compiling a list of independent, reliable sources that discuss the adaptation of the character in multiple paragraphs and I believe that there's enough differences between this version of the character and other versions and that the available info on the character (development, reception, etc) would greatly assist in readers' understanding of the character, while being too much to just put in the parent article. Thus, I think an argument could be made for a split.

I haven't been able to find any Wikipedia guidelines for making character adaptation articles. Are there any? Before I start working on a draft, I don't want to put a lot of work into it just to embarrass myself, and have the page be deleted. Thanks! HalfHazard98 (talk) 06:32, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I worded this poorly. Obviously I can just use similar articles as a “guideline”. What I meant was, when is it allowed? When are you allowed to make a separate character adaptation article? I’m guessing Wikipedia doesn’t want an article to exist for every single version of every single fictional character ever. HalfHazard98 (talk) 11:14, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia wants articles about subjects that are notable. If a particular version of the character has indeed attracted enough individual coverage to warrant an article split, then that's perfectly fine. Athanelar (talk) 11:54, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

That’s what I figured, was just making sure. Thanks! HalfHazard98 (talk) 12:02, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

New Editor, Shoebury Town FC

Hi, I wrote an article about a local football team (Shoebury Town FC). They've been running for over 100 years, and yet, I'm not sure there is a de-facto history of the club. Their results are peppered throughout local news coverage. Am I chasing a fools errand here? It feels like they should be on Wikipedia. My draft got rejected, should I look to books on local sport, or just give it up: Draft:Shoebury Town F.C.

Any help would be most welcome, all the best, James Woolley JimmyWool (talk) 09:27, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

JimmyWool Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I fixed your link, the whole url is not needed.

The draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.

Not everything that is old merits a Wikipedia article. It depends on the coverage in independent reliable sources. The coverage needs to be significant, meaning that it offers critical analysis and commentary as to what independent sources say is important/significant/influential about the topic. If the sources you have are all that is available, the club would not merit an article at this time; there needs to be more than coverage of its activities. 331dot (talk) 09:50, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll see if I can dig up something more substantial JimmyWool (talk) 09:51, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

For your article, I recommend having at least 5 reliable secondary sources to prove its notability. Primary sources don't count towards notability. patrol • ckatl (msg|contribs) 03:54, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you're recommending at least five here, when the requirement is only for "multiple". Three reliable secondary sources is usually considered "enough" for establishing notability in most instances. In solidarity, nil ^nz 04:15, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I recommended five, because in my experience, three or four usually get you just borderline across the general notability guidelines. That's why it was a recommendation. patrol • ckatl (msg|contribs) 04:20, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Need help verifying source for possible close paraphrasing

Would it be possible for someone who can, in any way, access this source (pp. 209-212) to help me verify and possibly rewrite a section in this article (Kometa and Shutka, second paragraph)? I wanted to expand upon their story but in doing so I'm really worried I ended up violating a policy. I'm not the best when it comes to writing and technical terms and English is not my first language. My intentions were good but I am a little overwhelmed and not sure if it can stay the way it is now. Vicccqh7 (talk) 13:39, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Vicccqh7 if you don't get a good reply here, try WP:RX. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:49, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Oh thank you! I wasn't sure where to ask that. If noone replies here I'll ask there. Vicccqh7 (talk) 13:52, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Generic websites, even when linked to specific ones

Hi everyone. May anyone help me with this? In the first two references in the article of William and Zachary Zulock, I've been trying to link those two sources (about incarceration status, DOBs, and others) to their actual corrections department's profiles but to no avail. Why is it that I conduct the search and insert the link to their info but if someone else (including me after inserting the reference) want to check them, they must conduct the search again? Thanks for any help in this. CoryGlee 13:59, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@CoryGlee That's a feature of the way the source URL works. You can suggest to readers how to find the information using the |at= parameter, for example |at=search Zulock. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:55, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@CoryGlee hi nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 17:08, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Many thanks to both! CoryGlee 20:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

[[^{Category:Insert category here}]]

What are those things at the bottom of a wikipedia article usually seen as the title above ([[Category:Insert category here]]) in wikitext and should they belong in the References section only if the article has an External links section? If it shouldn't belong in the References section, why should they belong at the end of a wikipedia article? See also: Categories. This section applies to all wikipedia articles. Magic facewall (talk) 14:04, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Your question isn't very clear. Are you asking what a category is? Athanelar (talk) 15:11, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Athanelar: Yes. But my main focus is the placement. I usually place categories in the references section and need insight on whether that should be done or not. Magic facewall (talk) 16:22, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Categories normally go at the bottom of the article, below every other section. That normally tends to be 'in' the references section because it's usually the last section, but they do not need to be (and should not be) in the references section if other sections come after it. Athanelar (talk) 16:40, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Athanelar: Okay. Is there any wikipedia project page saying editors should always place it at the end of an article? Magic facewall (talk) 17:13, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

H:CAT says Categories are normally found at the bottom of an article page. and On Wikipedia, it is customary to place category declarations at the end of the wiki markup, but before any stub templates (which themselves transclude categories). Athanelar (talk) 17:35, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

LGBTQ History in Wales – new article

Hi, I have done some research on LGBTQ History in Wales and am wondering whether it is permissible to create a new article for it given that Timeline of LGBTQ history in the British Isles already exists. The information for which I have found is specific to Wales and for the most part isn't already included in the page for the British Isles. Thanks Freddieh9 (talk) 15:49, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Freddieh9: Yeah, you may. Since the article you mentioned is about the LGBTQ history in the british isles and Wales is a country in the UK, it's permissible to make an article focused on a different location. Make sure you don't add any original research to the article. It will be removed for notability issues if you don't cite any sources. Please read H:YFA and WP:HTCAP before you create an article. Magic facewall (talk) 16:50, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Magic facewall Actually Wales is part of the British Isles and this is why @Freddieh9 asked the question. ~2026-20856-07 (talk) 22:19, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I think either option makes sense--it depends on how much information you have. And if you do make a separate article, I think it would make sense to also include any major milestones in the broader timeline. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:25, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I agree with SomeoneDreaming, if you haven enough sourcing you can make a dedicated page and then add the most major highlights to the broader timeline while leaving the more specific details for the Wales article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any more questions BTW. In solidarity, QuicoleJR (talk) 02:31, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@Freddieh9 If you look at the infobox, you'll see there are subpages for LGBTQ rights in Scotland and NI. Also, there are culture pages for different cities, etc. You can of course create a new page for Welsh LGBTQ history but, if it were me, I'd try to slot the various pieces of info in where it goes in the existing structure (which would mean adding to the head page, creating a comparable LGBTQ rights page for Wales, and adding additional information elsewhere in a similar vein). Mme Maigret (talk) 17:45, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

About White Powder Gold Entry

Mine was declined, the source is my own work. Can anyone who wants this to appear, help me to have a basic and small and needed article on white powder gold, or ORME, ORMUS? HBpencil2 (talk) 16:45, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @HBpencil2, Draft:White Powder Gold as there are no sources and inline citations. You said 'the source is my own work', there should be no original research on Wikipedia. For this draft to be made into a mainspace article, reliable sources must be provided.

Walnut (talk) 16:55, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Additionally, the draft requires major copyediting to have an encyclopedic tone; one of your edits was tagged as possible self promotion.

Walnut (talk) 17:02, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, HBpencil2. Wikipedia is not a place for you to promote your own unique theories or view of reality. The relevant content policy is No original research. Also relevant is WP:Fringe theories which says The notability of a fringe theory must be judged by statements from verifiable and reliable sources, not the proclamations of its adherents. I see no realistic possibility that Draft:White Powder Gold will ever be accepted into this encyclopedia. Cullen328 (talk) 17:04, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

In simple terms, unless your source is published and recognised as a reliable secondary source, it cannot be used on Wikipedia. (per WP:OR) patrol • ckatl (msg|contribs) 03:49, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

HBpencil2, as well as taking the advice above, you should read WP:MEDRES before making any claims here about a product's medical benefits. Maproom (talk) 08:13, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Translation help

Hi, I want to add Hurricane Beryl to this article. I found this on Beryl's article so it definitely can be done.

I don't like to just copy something from one article to another; I'd like to look at the sources for Beryl's impact in Hispaniola and use that to add to the Hurricanes in Hispaniola article.

The problem is that the two sources are not in English; one is in Spanish and the other is in French, and I'd like to use both sources. I know a lot of French; I'd have to only look up a few words, but I know no Spanish and I'm not sure on the accuracy of Google Translate.

So do I just copy and paste, use Google Translate, or have someone else translate it? Nibnab43637 (talk) 18:31, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

You can either copy and paste from the other article with appropriate attribution (if you trust the other article's summary of the source is accurate) or ask somebody else (maybe at WP:EMBASSY) to translate for you, but please do not use machine translation unless you're fluent in both languages in order to verify that the output is correct. Athanelar (talk) 19:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, I am an editor from Iraq from Turkmen nationalism and I want to provide information from Turkmen artists

Hello, I am an editor from Iraq from Turkmen nationalism and I want to provide information from Turkmen artists But I don't know how to request a review of the topics I add The last topic I added is this Draft:Abdullah shuaib Assekoas (talk) 19:00, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Assekoas Please see WP:NSINGER. Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:32, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Assekoas, you most recently requested a review of Draft:Abdullah Shuaib. You did so just 17 minutes after Theroadislong had declined an earlier version with the reason "Submission is about a person not yet shown to meet notability guidelines". During those 17 minutes, you did nothing to help your draft demonstrate notability. (You merely deleted some junk external links.) Shantavira gives you excellent advice above; please take it. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 21:53, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for replying, but I want you to help me, not the person who created the page in his name. I have more than twenty news from prestigious sources, but when I write something from the person, they reject it, I give you the person's news links and the person's information and you modify it for me. Assekoas (talk) 22:59, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Not me, Assekoas, and for at least three reasons. But now that you have expressed a hope that somebody will take the links you provide and use them to produce an article, don't be surprised if you receive one or more "offers" to do this, for payment. Do not respond to such an "offer". -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 23:31, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Okay, what's wrong with you? Help me with that Assekoas (talk) 23:58, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Assekoas We are all volunteers and nobody is obligated to help you create your chosen article. We will give you advice, but the actual learning and editing is down to you.

Please read WP:42 and WP:NSINGER to understand why your draft had been declined, and what you should be doing next - it's entirely possible that this person does not qualify for an encyclopedia article at all, in which case you would be best served moving onto another topic.

Also note that you must declare whether you have any connection at all to this person, by following the Conflict of interest guidelines. In solidarity, Blue-Sonnet (I'm listening) 00:09, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Please help with an edi

Arsenic and Old Lace: Background. Please clean it up. Thank you. LorettaJL (talk) 22:56, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

You can request this on WP:Cleanup if you like, with a few more details of what you want done. Or just fix it. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 22:57, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

LorettaJL, if you mean Arsenic and Old Lace (film)#Background, you're free to improve it yourself. Or you can make a suggestion for improvement, at the foot of Talk:Arsenic and Old Lace (film). -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 04:24, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Cleaning up AI articles

Before I stopped using LLM to help with my articles, I used it to help make Undertale: The Determination Symphony and List of Undertale and Deltarune concerts. I tagged these as AI generated to help clean them up but whats the best way to clean up LLM use? Monathephantom (talk) 00:31, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@Monathephantom: If you created those articles, then presumably you know how and where you used AI, and should be able to remove or rewrite the AI-tainted parts of the articles yourself. —In solidarity with Wiki Workers United · ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email) 01:05, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

This is not helping. These articles are mostly ai generated and I wanted to ask for advice on how to properly clean them up Monathephantom (talk) 01:08, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

If they are "mostly" AI-generated, then it all needs to be cleaned up. The solution is to delete or draftify these articles and write them from scratch with no assistance from AI at all. —In solidarity with Wiki Workers United · ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email) 01:17, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I have moved these articles to Draft:Undertale: The Determination Symphony and Draft:List of Undertale and Deltarune concerts. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 01:27, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I took a quick look at Undertale: The Determination Symphony, Monathephantom. It's voluminous. I can understand that you have no appetite for going though it. Replace the thing with a 100%-human-made stub. Then ask for earlier versions to be deleted (for earlier "revisions" to be "revdelled") in order to prevent editors looking in the history from copying the AI slop and pasting it back in. Nourish and augment the stub. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 01:33, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@Hoary, You removed your reply but i followed your advice and removed all AI generated content and left those articles as stubs. They're notable enough to receive inclusion here, and soon i'll be expanding it. Monathephantom (talk) 02:08, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Monathephantom, this unexpected resuscitation of my suggestion put me in the mood to snip out a few more bytes. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 03:49, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

You may well have done this already, so please ignore if so!

AI loves to just make things up, but for some reason I've found that it's got a massive blind spot when it comes to video games.

Make sure that you go through any AI-generated sources/citations with a fine toothed comb, because you can pretty much guarantee that some of them will be absolutely useless. In solidarity, Blue-Sonnet (I'm listening) 06:53, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

fixing an infobox on Netflix Studios Fort Monmouth

Hello. I screwed up the info box on a page i just created. For Netflix Studios Fort Monmouth would appreciate help if anyone would be willing and able. Bhdshoes2 (talk) 01:05, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

We don't have a template called "infobox studio," which is why it didn't work. I'm not sure what template you were trying to use, so I can't fix it.

Additionally, from a brief glance at the article, please note that you should not be citing Wikipedia on Wikipedia pages; see WP:CIRCULAR. "Content from a Wikipedia article is not considered reliable unless it is backed up by citing reliable sources. Confirm that these sources support the content, then use them directly." SomeoneDreaming (talk) 01:30, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi, did you use any kind of AI to draft this article? Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 03:08, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

It would appear so due to the fact he is using outdated/non-existent infobox parameters that LLMs use such as headquarters and status. patrol • ckatl (msg|contribs) 03:47, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

They've used AI in the recent past, see here. In solidarity, Blue-Sonnet (I'm listening) 06:45, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

My article left unreviewed

Hello, my article, 175th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, has been left unreviewed, contrary to belief that an article takes up to one day to be reviewed, please help in reviewing my article, thanks! SomeRandomGuy3523 (talk) 05:56, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure where you got the idea an article takes a day to be reviewed. WP:New pages patrol currently has a backlog of over 15,000 articlws (although they are reviewed in no particular order) Athanelar (talk) 06:04, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Usually, submitted drafts take anywhere from a few weeks to over a month to get reviewed by a volunteer. This timeline is not set in stone and can occasionally take even longer depending entirely on how active the reviewers are and how large the current queue backlog is. Please be patient, as all reviews are completed manually by volunteers! patrol • ckatl (msg|contribs) 06:55, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

BCCI official website reverts

Hello team! GA/GD/GW God's grace, sir/ma'am. @Whyiseverythingalreadyused please check, help, and support for your reason for reverts of their official profiles as available here: https://www.bcci.tv/international/men/players/ An example of your revert is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ravindra_Jadeja&action=history

Note: I'm adding it as per your "[WP:ELOFFICIAL]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links I apologise for any disturbance; I regret all inconveniences due to this for any and all. Thank you. Yours faithfully. Nandan M. Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 08:43, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I encourage you to reread WP:ELOFFICIAL as you seem to misunderstand it. Notice criteria 1 for what we consider to be an official link; The linked content is controlled by the subject (organization or individual person) of the Wikipedia article.

Jadeja obviously does not have any control over the BCCI website, so this is not an 'official link' in the context of an article about him. Athanelar (talk) 09:14, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Sir/ma'am.

We would like to have a page without spam links,

I'm sure all agree with me in this regard.

Now my friend has reverted the change here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virat_Kohli&action=history

Do you support him/her to sustain this spam link on their profile?

https://disdukcapilkabsorong.com/

Obviously, you can decide who is the spammer here.

We bow before thee!

Thank you.

Yours faithfully.

Nandan M. Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 12:12, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I have no idea what this user's edit summaries are, and I have no idea why they speak like they do. I've taken the liberty to revert just about their entire history of making this type of edit. Whyiseverythingalreadyused (t · c · he/him) 09:44, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Agree and appreciate, brilliant convincing equivalent, reply my friend. Just so you know, I've added a few more today. I'm sincerely begging before you to review them once.

Thank you.

Yours faithfully.

Nandan M. Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 10:42, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

While the example here obviously isn't an ELOFFICIAL in context (and wasn't added as one), it seems like a decent WP:EL to me, and 3 links in total isn't that many.. Of course, I know very little about cricket. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:20, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Sir/ma'am. Thanks for your timely, kind response, really much appreciated. As they have warned me to be blocked by them without further notice. Nandanmwikipedia (talk) 11:30, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

For the interested, I started a thread on the cricket-links at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cricket#Good_WP:EL_or_not?. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:31, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Should I accuse people of using AI/LLM in talk page.

An editor posted in talk page questioning edit performed by my other account. I have noticed that the text from that user in the talk page looks very suspicious to be AI/LLM generated. Should I bring this up?

Said response is at: Talk:Not_Just_Bikes#Unrelated References

🔥Jothefiredragon🐲talk🐉contrib(s)✨log🌟mail🎉global🎊 12:17, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@Jothefiredragon if youre referring to the comment made by slackbus, i don't think that looks ai generated...? there's more guidelines in WP:AITALK should there be ai-generated talk comments you encounter in the future, but overall i don't think the comment is ai-generated nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 15:42, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I don’t see an alternate account listed on your user page; have you read WP:SOCK? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 17:03, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I didn't list an alternate account on this account's user page but I did so on that account. Also, I don't believe that I violated sockpuppetry policies as I don't use multiple account in the same discussion thread. Am I mistaken? --🔥Jothefiredragon🐲talk🐉contrib(s)✨log🌟mail🎉global🎊 19:23, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

That policy explains the rules for using multiple accounts: every account should list the alternate accounts and you should have a clear reason for doing so. Right now, I’m not sure what that is. Maybe your alternate account says that but right now I’m not sure which that is. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 19:33, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

who knows here what the awnser of harvards riddle is

harvards riddle is the hardest riddle made by humans i think i am a harvard graduate and know the awnser do you know it to Grandinquisitor123 (talk) 17:05, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@Grandinquisitor123: Try asking at the Reference desks. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 17:18, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

is wikipedia alowed in north korea

is wikipedia alowed in north korea Grandinquisitor123 (talk) 17:06, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

no nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead // in solidarity with the WWU) 17:07, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

thank you Grandinquisitor123 (talk) 17:16, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

In fairness, practically nothing is allowed in North Korea. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 17:18, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Help with my editing of George Hay (artist}

I have added information to this article and included (using Upload Wizard) some photos of paintingss done by the artist who died in 1912. Somehow I have indicated that the paintings are my own work! Could this be corrected for me. I also had some problem with positioning the photos, needing to leave a huge gap in my editing text. I am out of touch with editing procedures now. BFP1 (talk) 18:09, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: George Hay (artist)

I can correct the copyright tags; since they are faithful reproductions of paintings by an artist who died over 100 years ago, the correct tag is {{PD-Art|PD-old-100}}. But I'm not sure about how the photographs should be positioned. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 18:41, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Okay, actually, I also need to know where you got the photographs from. Were they online? Did you take the photograph yourself? Are they from a book? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 18:42, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

They were online from Bonham and Christies auction catalogues BFP1 (talk) 21:56, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Can you provide the links so I can add them to Commons, please? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 22:25, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

How should I rewrite a declined draft?

Hello Teahouse, I would appreciate some advice before resubmitting a draft article. I wrote a draft about High Life, the British Airways magazine. The draft was declined because the reviewer felt it appeared to contain LLM-generated text and suggested that it be rewritten from scratch. The sources used are genuine, independent and verifiable (including coverage from The Independent, The Guardian, Campaign and Press Gazette), and the subject previously existed as a Wikipedia article before being redirected. Before I undertake a substantial rewrite, I would be grateful for feedback from experienced editors. Looking at the current draft, what changes would you recommend to make it more encyclopaedic and improve its chances of acceptance? Thank you so much in advance for any advice. Best, Kerry KS Citations (talk) 18:12, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

You said that the sources used are genuine, independent, and verifiable. But did you use an LLM to write the text? Those are two different questions. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 18:35, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:High Life (magazine)

Courtesy ping: Helpful Raccoon

^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 19:12, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

The sourcing seems okay, but as is common with LLM drafts, it describes the coverage itself instead of summarizing what sources have said about the publication, along with vague generalizations like "reflecting broader changes in airline publishing". The easiest way to fix this is by rewriting the draft yourself. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:23, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@KS Citations As someone who rescues a lot of pages, I would have suggested that you turn the text of the declined version into bullet points and rewrite each bullet point in your own words in neutral language but the page is now little more than a stub, which on first appearance would seem better as a section of the primary page. The draft does seem to one good sig cov and another that maybe passable. Mme Maigret (talk) 03:38, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

How to edit semi-protected pages

How to edit semi-protected pages Laadan61 (talk) 19:35, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

You're autoconfirmed (4 days and 10 edits), so you can just edit it like you normally would, as long as you're logged in. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 19:40, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

How long does it take for an article suggestion to be acknowledged?

I just suggested an article to be made, and I'd like to know if anyone knows how long it takes on average for an article suggestion to be addressed.

Thank you :) Aquangell (talk) 20:02, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

It may be a long time, depending on the topic, the availability of sources, and the willingness of someone to do the work. Requested articles is severely backlogged. Far more suggestions are made than fulfilled. 331dot (talk) 20:17, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, that was helpful! Aquangell (talk) 20:21, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Frankly, you should assume that any article you request will never get made. Article creation is a difficult and time-consuming process, and the people interested in doing so are probably going to do so in a topic that takes their interest (or that they've stumbled on good sources for) rather than doing so on the behalf of others.

If you want to contribute to the encyclopedia and you have a strong interest in the topic, I really suggest you start editing Wikipedia, get some experience and tackle the task yourself. Athanelar (talk) 20:22, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips :) Aquangell (talk) 20:30, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Aquangell, I suspect that the responses above are about suggestions related to Wikipedia:Requested articles, but that your question is instead about Wikipedia:WikiProject TikTok/Articles for creation. That could be different. However, as I glance at its history I don't notice any edit summaries such as "Removing from list (article now made)". It seems a sleepy page; Athanelar's advice remains valid, though I'd preface it with "first check that you'll be able to demonstrate that your proposed subject is 'notable'". -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:29, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for letting me know regarding the page's activity :) Aquangell (talk) 00:02, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

I submitted my first article to AfC in April and got it approved in 2 days, which was a complete shock. I think it critically depends on whether a reviewer is interested; mine was on a specific hobby topic and maybe I hit a reviewer with the right hobby. I have heard of other people taking weeks or months.

An alternative is to ask a mentor or other experienced editor for an informal review. Putting up an article directly and having it end up at Articles for Deletion is not much fun, so a pre-check is a good idea. M kuhner (talk) 00:13, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

M kuhner, despite its title, Wikipedia:WikiProject TikTok/Articles for creation is very unlike Wikipedia:Articles for creation. It doesn't expect drafts. But as for AfC, yes, it can indeed be pretty fast. See this example (pats self on back, pours self a beer). -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 01:03, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, missed the TikTok part! M kuhner (talk) 01:21, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Jungle Jim Liberman

Bio says born in PA. Dropped out of high school, and began racing when he moved to Northern Calif. The truth is, He went to school at Sunnyvale High in Nor Cal. He was already here before he started racing at Fremont Dragstrip. ~2026-33860-37 (talk) 21:04, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

If you have a suggestion for (or can make a correction to) the article Jim Liberman, then please present it in Talk:Jim Liberman. Be sure to provide a reliable, published source for it. (We can't accept mere hearsay.) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:13, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Movie Synopses

I tried to correct some major errors in an unsourced movie synopsis, and an officious editor reverted the synopsis back to the erroneous original, criticizing me for not providing any source for the corrections. I've checked a few, and I cannot find any synopsis that list sources (since the source for the synopsis is the movie itself). What would the source for a synopsis even look like, since the source is the movie (or book) itself? Krautsk (talk) 02:07, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

You are correct; a work such as a book or film is itself the reliable source for its content, since anyone can verify it by reading or watching the work, and an article about the work does not need inline citations in the Plot or other section describing its content, although actual quotes from it do need to be fully cited: see WP:PLOTREF.

Of course, anyone could take issue with the accuracy of a plot summary, but this would be a content dispute that should be resolved as described in that link, not a deficiency in referencing. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 02:29, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Krautsk, it seems that all is now well. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 02:37, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

I was wondering the best approach to merge 2 articles (1 being subset of the other)

So, I am studying this subject within Hinduisim about different temples.

And I am particularly interested to learn more about the Venkateswara Temple in Tirumala. And I came across a subset of this article in the name of Legend of "Tirumala".

Question: What's the best way to merge these two articles (I think A2 is a small subset of A1):

Article 1: Venkateswara Temple, Tirumala

Article 2: Legend of Tirumala MethodsUser (talk) 03:14, 8 June 2026 (UTC)