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Question from Denverma111 (00:49, 19 December 2025)

Hi! I made an article in my sandbox - can you give me any feedback? --Denverma111 (talk) 00:49, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

@Denverma111: I think it's a very decent start. It's much better than the average draft I see from a new editor. I've made some stylistic changes but otherwise haven't done anything too major. I'd say your biggest concern from here is trying to find out if this biography meets our standards for inclusion. Generally speaking, biographies should meet this criteria, but articles on academics are more lenient. I find assessing that tends to be confusing, so I usually avoid them when I'm reviewing new articles. Rosiestep might be able to offer more definitive guidance in that respect. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:13, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
Thank you. I tried to follow the criteria for living author biographies (not academics). Yes, this is my first article. They have been referenced in many secondary sources, several of which I included. Do I need more? How can I take next steps do you think? I want to publish this and improve it once it meets the standard! Denverma111 (talk) 12:10, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping, Clover, and hello Denverma111. I've looked at the draft article on Susanne Cook-Greuter, as well as her Wikidata item, which contains authority controls associated with her work. As Clover already mentioned, you've made a very decent start. As you've already said, the article doesn't meet the notability requirements for academics. IMO, in its current state, the article also doesn't meet the notability requirements for creatives (specifically, writers). Cook is one of twelve authors of the 2004 book; single author of a 1999 book; and co-editor of two books. If a plethora of reviews about her works were added, we could revisit the notability requirements for writers, but, frankly, I still don't think she would meet notability requirements for authors. That said, others may see it differently and/or have other suggestions, ergo, my recommendation: ask for feedback from this group of editors who focus on new biographies about women before taking the article through the review cycle at Articles for Creation. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:13, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
I see. I do have additional research papers referencing her work, so I think there is plenty of evidence of notability, but I can get some feedback from the group of editors about it. She has many peer reviewed papers and book chapters, but those were cut. Maybe I should add some back? Thank you! Denverma111 (talk) 13:16, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
Denverma111, yes; add her reviewed papers in the "Articles" subsection I just created. Add a new subsection for "Book chapters" and add that list, too. In the "Career" section, add reviews about her books, articles, chapters. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:30, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
Denverma111, by the way, if you have any type of relationship with the subject (I'm not suggesting that you do, I'm just sharing information), please read and abide by Wikipedia's conflict of interest instructions. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:33, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for all of the above. Helpful for this motivated learner! It seems like you are saying this may fit better with an academic notability rather than bio of a living person? I will put the other works and references I have. Denverma111 (talk) 12:15, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
Sorry, but no; not one or the other, Denverma111. I'll try again. The draft must comply with the notability policy for all people, the policy regarding biographies of living people, and an occupation-type policy (e.g., academic, author, politician, sportsperson, etc.) if one exists. If a conflict of interest exists, it must comply with that, too (for example, see here. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:53, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for clarifying. I made some edits to add context and references. I added back a few of the papers, and a review of her work and some other mentions. Will ask for feedback once I review it again. Denverma111 (talk) 14:11, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Question from Meowyme0407 (02:44, 19 December 2025)

What should I even edit if all the edits I make get taken down? --Meowyme0407 (talk) 02:44, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

@Meowyme0407: I took a quick look at your contributions and it looks like you're in a content dispute. I know it can feel really discouraging to feel like your efforts are leading to nowhere, but it's not hopeless. My suggestion would be to take a bit of a break (don't attack other editors who disagree with you, they're also generally trying to do what's best for the project) and then maybe edit another area for awhile. There's more than 7 million articles around here to work on. Another thing that you'd probably find helpful is knowing that there are various forms of dispute resolution. A good first step when you're stuck can be asking for a third opinion. My kneejerk response to criticism is to wonder if the other person is right (which isn't always the case) or to ask clarifying questions if I'm confused so I understand their argument or perspective better (which you can still disagree with, but it's good to at least understand where someone is coming from). Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 03:07, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for the advice I'll use it from now on. Meowyme0407 (talk) 04:08, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
@Meowyme0407: Glad it helped. Feel free to reach out again if you're feeling frustrated. Sometimes it really helps to just have some sense of direction, you know? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:09, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
I'm scared that I might get banned and I won't be able to edit the articles I want to do is there anything I can do about it? Meowyme0407 (talk) 04:11, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
@Meowyme0407: In my experience, people are usually pretty lenient to newcomers. Especially if you admit that you're sorry for saying something unkind to someone else. I see you've changed your user page to do that already. This may come as a surprise, but people can be pretty mean to Wikipedians sometimes, and being sorry can mean a lot to someone. I think you're in the clear as long as you don't keep repeating the same mistake. Blocks are meant to prevent disruption and not simply to punish people, so you should be okay. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:14, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
Thank you it's just that I've been crying for a bit about it and I needed some reassurance. Meowyme0407 (talk) 04:16, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
@Meowyme0407: Again, I'm glad I could help. Try to see the fact that you care as a strength instead of a weakness. You clearly want to do the right thing and not everyone cares about doing that. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:22, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Question from Corrèze France (23:26, 19 December 2025)

Hi Hannah :) Not sure how I can create EN, FR, IE pages/articles on topics I am interested in publishing. Mostly it would be places not currently available in those languages, where I can write a little and provide some media (mostly photos, but some video too, at times) looking foward to tour guidance, regards, Ru --Corrèze France (talk) 23:26, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi Corrèze France, nice to meet you. There's several resources I can help link you to. The first is the guide for how to create an article. The second is for how to translate a page. And the third is the guide for uploading images. If you're interested in contributing your own photographs (I've done a lot myself for stuff like local buildings I write about), you'll probably end up contributing to Wikimedia Commons as well. Let me know if you need clarification on any of this, I'm happy to help. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 02:10, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Reminder

I would like to remind you that your guess on Wikipedia:1.5-billionth edit pool has passed. It is the 20th of December, and your guess is the 4th. Please take your chance to guess again. Theeverywhereperson (talk here) 13:40, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I appreciate your initiative, but I don't really feel like guessing again. That's why I didn't do it when you pinged me the first time. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:47, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
That's fine. The pool will close soon anyway, so not many people are guessing this close to the pool close anyway. Theeverywhereperson (talk here) 13:50, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Question from JBWO Jago Bheel Walfare Organization (18:03, 20 December 2025)

What will i do about may page --JBWO Jago Bheel Walfare Organization (talk) 18:03, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@JBWO Jago Bheel Walfare Organization: I'm a bit confused about what you're trying to ask me here. But since you're here anyways, I strongly encourage you to read our username policy (I suggest renaming to something like "[first name] from JWBO") and our guide to conflict of interest editing. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:09, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Happy holidays

Hi Hannah
Season's Greetings and all the best for 2026
Wherever you are and whatever you believe in (or don't), reach out for peace on this little planet of ours!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS 🥳
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:03, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. I mostly just feel out of place this time of year. I try my best to do things like celebrate my birthday and a few other holidays by myself, but a lot of holidays are rather family-dependant to truly "work". Christmas and Thanksgiving are two of them. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 06:22, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Holiday wishes and a happy new year!

Infinite Possibilities
Is this real life? Yes! Is this going to be forever? No! Elvis is getting ready to leave the building and 2026 is about to be born, kicking and screaming. They say nothing gold can stay, but I say, don't listen to them, stay golden all the same. Here's to a new year of infinite diversity and beautiful combinations! Viriditas (talk) 21:52, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
@Viriditas: I like the Star Trek reference when it comes to infinite diversity. It's a nice touch. :) Interesting choice for "stay golden". I read The Outsiders for a school project in 8th grade but I don't remember it all that well. My first thought when clicking the link was that it was a reference to Golden (Huntrix song). I think it's very meaningful plot-wise because it's sort of that halfway point of self-confidence where the characters have made a lot of progress but still aren't quite there yet. There's a part of the song where the main character, Rumi, hides her "patterns" by putting on a jacket while singing about how she's done hiding. I love that juxtaposition. It also makes the finale song This Is What It Sounds Like all the more impactful. Something I really like about this film is that the villain they have to defeat is a personification of shame. I also really like how it's so unapologetically feminine in pretty much every way. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 23:15, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
Nailed it! IDIC spoke to me from day one. Viriditas (talk) 23:18, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
@Viriditas: I relate strongly to a lot of Vulcan philosophy, even if I disagree heavily with their approach to emotions. I'd probably give a Vulcan a heart attack if they met me... I have a tendency to be very bubbly when interacting with others. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 23:33, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
It's an interesting take. A lot of these fictional philosophies, when you look at them in any kind of depth, resemble a kind of cult, perhaps something like the historical Pythagoreanism, although the details are scant. I heard a modern interpretation of it recently (from the late 2010s) that argued that Pythagoras used vegetarianism to control his followers by reducing their protein intake, making them more suggestible. I don't think I necessarily agree with that version, but it appears to be a different way of understanding how philosophy and practice intersect in the real world and the ramifications of holding such beliefs for their followers or adherents. And yes, we can see how the Vulcan approach to emotion is problematic, and often acts more as a plot point for the character to learn more about humanity rather than a practical approach, as you observed. Viriditas (talk) 00:58, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Happy Holidays!
Wishing you warmth, joy, and meaningful moments as the holiday season approaches and the year comes to a close. May the season bring peace to your home and inspiration for the year ahead. Shubhsamant09 (talk) 00:46, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

WikiProject Canada 10,000 Challenge ninth anniversary

The Bronze Maple Leaf Award
This maple leaf is awarded to Clovermoss for improvements to Canada-related articles, including the Good Article expansion of Ketchup chips, during the ninth year of The 10,000 Challenge of WikiProject Canada. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 15:10, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2026!

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Re: The Light of Other Days

You would like The Light of Other Days. As for time travel fiction, sure, send it to me. Viriditas (talk) 00:01, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Forgot to mention: regarding this same author, I enjoyed the Manifold Trilogy, but found the Destiny's Children slightly too weird and unusual for my taste. Others may like it. I hope you've already read the Remembrance of Earth's Past series. In the event that you haven't, I would recommend it. If you haven't, I don't want to ruin it for you, but the use of hibernation in the series is a great alternative to time travel. Recently, the writers of the new adaptation of Foundation did the same thing to great effect. I'm pretty sure that wasn't in the original Asimov books, so it's quite possible they were inspired by Liu Cixin; I don't know for sure, but it was the same idea. Viriditas (talk) 00:18, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
@Viriditas: The mediawiki email system doesn't allow attachments. If you're comfortable with emailing me, I'll reply with my writing. Don't want to get too into detail on wiki lest I inspire the LLM scrapers. 😅 Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:23, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
Email sent. Viriditas (talk) 20:55, 30 December 2025 (UTC)
Got it. Probably won't have time to start on it until tomorrow. Viriditas (talk) 23:57, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

On my comments during ACE

Hi Hannah. As we talked about privately, I am coming here - with a statement we've both agreed to - in order to try and provide some clarity you've asked me for around my comments at ACE. I want to acknowledge that I did phrase my criticisms of you differently on-wiki than I had off-wiki though we do disagree on whether I was direct enough off wiki with my concerns. But I want there to be no confusion among others that I was not calling you dramatic during my comments at ACE. For me someone who is dramatic is someone who blows things out of proportion. I was instead discussing the kinds of dispute resolution skills that are called on in the role of arbitrators when I wrote that I thought you increased rather than decreased drama. I hope people will not take my comments as reason to label you as dramatic, because that is not a word I would use to describe you and there is certainly evidence of you helping with disputes in your current formal and informal roles. Instead the incidents I presented were enough to cause me to oppose you at this time for Arb. As I later wrote in the discussion, I don't think that means I would always oppose you, especially knowing the skills you have and which you could bring to a role like arbcom. I hope you can find joy in your efforts on Wikipedia, whatever they may be. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 07:23, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

I appreciate the clarification. Some people assume that I don't like being critcized, but I want people to tell me if they think I should be doing something differently. That doesn't mean I'll automatically agree with them, but I really do mean what I say on my userpage. I don't how I could be more /explicit than that other than hoping people just genuinely believe me over time when they that my words really do reflect my actions. Hence why it mattered to me that I didn't feel like your concerns were direct enough when I sought your feedback pre-ACE. I'm not the reckless sort of person and I do genuinely care about what others think. I happen to think my conflict resolution skills are quite good, but I do think there are some small things I could do better in isolated circumstances. I think it's important to articulate the things that people tend to leave unsaid because it gets to the root of what's really causing problems. I think that a lot of how Wikipedians tend to operate has an unfortunate tendency to sweep certain issues under the rug until they explode and can't be ignored down the line. But I do not think it is a problem for people to politely express disagreement and discontent when they have been treated unfairly, and I will always defend someone's right to do so. That said, there are some small things I think that I could do better. For example, waiting for other people to approach me instead of pressing an issue, and trying to take less of an active role to help others who do not want such help. If I ever try for ACE again someday in the future, I might end up writing a subpage where I summarize my experience in dealing with such things so people have a more holistic understanding of me than having to rely on whoever shows up to say something. I was disappointed in the lack of discussion on other candidates and it definitely led to a feeling of being singled out when I know my "issues" are quite small in comparison. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:31, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

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Dispute over an infobox parameter

Hello! I am having a bit of frustration with a dispute I recently became involved in that has been going on for several months.

Talk:North Korea
Talk:Laos
Talk:Communist_state#Requested_move_23_December_2025
Talk:Somali_Democratic_Republic

The conduct here has begun to slowly edge towards personal attacks in some cases, specifically on Talk:North Korea. In all cases, there has been no resolution met.

I also fear that there's a ton of WP:OR being used, with some users referencing wikipedia articles as part of the dispute, as in using wikipedia articles to back up their claims as if they were RS.

I would like to know if this could be resolved. Thanks!

WeaponizingArchitecture | yell at me 02:00, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

I've given a quick skim of the discussions at hand, but will be more thorough about it tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to provide my thoughts then as well. I just wanted to confirm that I have seen your message. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 05:27, 28 December 2025 (UTC)
Hi!
1. I would love that you take a look at this debate. WeaponizingArchitecture is refusing to accept the results of RFCs and has attacked me personally on several occasions (literally from the first dit, which was on Moxy's talk page)
2. In all cases WeaponizingArchitecture is in the minority, and forcing upon a fringe theory on Wikipedoa. When scholarly sources disagree with him, he accuses everyone else of fronting WP:OR.
3. He has tried, but failed to garnered consensus for moving the article communist state (and adding questionable additions to infoboxes). Instead of accepting the results he tries to get other editors involved that can force through his views.
I am not perfect in this process, but I will advice you to check out Talk:Communist state.
Have a nice day! TheUzbek (talk) 16:39, 28 December 2025 (UTC)
Abhorrently bad faith accusations. I don't have anything else to say. Have you considered taking a break? WeaponizingArchitecture | yell at me 20:44, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Okay, I've had a chance to take a closer look for the North Korea article specifically. I care about thoroughness and can look at the dispute regarding the other articles later if desired. There's a few things going on here from my perspective:

  1. In a generalized sense, articles regarding subjects where people have strong opinions on what matters like religion and politics tend to get a bit messy. They are also subject areas where there tends to be a lot of serious scholarship on an issue and WP:SOURCETYPES are important. You want to cite scholarly sources over news articles if they exist. But not everyone in a scholarly area always agrees with other people, so there isn't always one academic consensus per se. In those circumstances, you WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV (scholar so and so says this; Jehovah's Witnesses#History is a good example of what this can look like because there's some disagreements when it comes to labels).
  2. It's good to see that TheUzbek gave a source list in the North Korea as a communist state talk page discussion. I'm not familiar with the full context of these sources so I'm limited in the extent that I can truly evaluate them beyond what is provided there. The first source's title sounds decent in the sense that usually anything throwing around a term like "comparative study" is academic. But it's not ideal to have something being claimed indirectly and then be used without qualification in something like an infobox (a lot of contentious infobox discussions kind've end up the way that they do because sometimes it's hard to capture nuance through that format). Source 2 seems pretty strong for the "communist" label, but that doesn't nessecarily mean "communist state". Source 3 is pretty strong in use of the label, but it's also clearly making an argument. That can hint that the purpose can be to persuade fellow academics and that matter is disputed. Source 4 is not academic if the reference to Dateline is what I think it is. The rest of the sources have the same issue in that it's hard to tell how authoritative they are in the subject area without more information. Are these book chapters? Newspaper articles? What year were they published? Does anyone cover this topic in more depth? Are these cherrypicked examples outside of the norm?
  3. I agree with the general argument TheUzbek makes in that it is not our place to pick sides on what scholarly consensus is and simply describe it. That's the whole point of WP:DUEWEIGHT. Wikipedia should not be using a label that is not being used by other people. But from a process perspective, Anachronist is right in that you have to have an RfC to overturn established consensus. Sometimes one just needs to be patient even if it's upsetting to see something that you see as wrong be the status quo for awhile. In these situations, I try to remember that it was likely this way for far longer than before I noticed it. For example, when I noticed that Billy Meier was described like this. There was a consensus for awhile with a small group of editors that that was totally fine and I had to go to WP:BLPN for a broader group of editors to take interest. So consensus can change. The references in question for the contentious label were this, so try to avoid being in a comparable situation. Consensus changes with strong policy-based arguments like MOS:CULT, not passing mentions in POV sources (not saying this is definitively the case here).
  4. I'll make a similar argument in regards to process towards WeaponizingArchitecture. People generally like it when someone who is re-starting a discussion brings good arguments and sources and doesn't simply re-start a discussion saying that the "Previous RfC didn't seem to go anywhere". It can give people a kneejerk unfavourable opinion of you, even if that isn't entirely fair. I don't have much experience when it comes to writing good RfCs myself, but it definitely is something that can take practice. But people like to see analysis of why certain sources are not reliable or "good enough" instead of just seeing someone say so.
  5. When things get complicated, there's usually two routes that people take to try to solve things. Dispute resolution processes involving content and the venues where you report the conduct of editors. You don't want to have a battleground mentality where you think of winning and losing because that leads people down the latter path. So it's best to avoid making any assumptions regarding another person's motives most of the time by sticking to describing the actual behaviour. Because when it comes to conduct, it isn't about who is right.

Hopefully these observations are helpful. If people think having me do something like Talk:2021 Canadian church burnings#Text source integrity analysis would be helpful, I can do that if given access to the sources. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 03:56, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello Miss, Clovermoss

Can you please help resolve this issue - Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard#Talk:Kilgore, Texas#Etymology of Kilgore, Texas Luka Maglc (talk) 18:18, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi Luka Maglc. It's always nice to meet new people (your userpage is interesting I can appreciate your interest in developing articles that aren't as well-represented on Wikipedia, I do a lot of that myself). That said, I have to agree with the other editors who have participated at Talk:Kilgore, Texas#Etymology of Kilgore, Texas already. That is generally what people mean when they talk about WP:SYNTH on Wikipedia. But maybe I can offer another way of thinking about it that might help make it stick? Wikipedia:Verifiability does not guarantee inclusion is also relevant here because explaining the origin of someone's surname isn't directly related to the history of a town. You see this in several articles about North America that are named after people. Content that would be more relevant would be something like early immigration trends (these two things tend to be correlated but don't necessarily have to be). The last part of this that I think matters is that Wisdomlib is not a reliable source. It is someone's personal blog and even websites that focus on surname origins are somewhat infamous for not always correctly representing that history. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:18, 30 December 2025 (UTC)
wisdom lib was not my sources this was which explain the etymology of last names as in Kilgore's sur/last/family name. Luka Maglc (talk) 06:14, 30 December 2025 (UTC)
@Luka Maglc: Is there a different edit where you used that source that I missed? I was going off , which does cite Wisdomlib (Help:Diff explains how I made that link if you don't know how to do so). But if you were citing that book later on, that would indeed be a reliable source. Unfortunately, it still does not fix the synthesis and relevance issues. It would if there was something unusual about the name Kilgore itself and these two ideas were connected (see St. Catharines#Origin of name for the rare exception where the origin of a name matters and is discussed in reliable sources). But again, you need the source to make the connection and it needs to be relevant. I hope that helps. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 06:33, 30 December 2025 (UTC)
I originally did not have a proper source (which I do agree on) but I went and re-researched the Etymology to find a better source. I have only used it as a source right now on the notice board, because I'm refraining from getting into an edit war, but if I was to add the info back, this would be my citation. Luka Maglc (talk) 06:37, 30 December 2025 (UTC)
@Luka Maglc: Taking time to pause and not force your way is a good trait to have. I agree that it is a better citation, even if doesn't solve those other issues. So my feedback is somewhat at a standstill past this point because you can agree with me or not. I'm more sympathetic than most to asking for as much feedback as possible, but some look down upon such behaviour as forum shopping. I think I'd be doing you a disservice if I didn't at least bring the subject up. But between the talk page discussions, the noticeboard one, and my talk page, that's a lot of places where people are giving feedback that is basically the same (where Wikipedia tends to get more confusing is when people give you conflicting advice and have their own strong opinions about what is right and wrong, but that's somewhat of a different struggle). So, and I mean this as kindly as possible, you're going to have to make a decision on whether you want to follow the advice people are giving or be unconventional and try to change the way things are done more holistically (but pushing for changes to WP:SYNTH would probably take quite a lot of time and effort, as changing any status quo is difficult). Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 06:51, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Wishing you a positive outlook for the new year, 2026

Happy New Year!

Hello Clovermoss: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 19:20, 31 December 2025 (UTC)



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A barnstar for you

All-Around Amazing Barnstar
For your contributions to Wikipedia, both in mainspace in important and varied topics, as well as your outlook on editing, administration, wikiculture, and your dedication to do what is right and kind. HSLover/DWF (talk) 17:31, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

AFDs on same-day events

I was thinking of your suggestion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 71 when I saw Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International reactions to the 2026 United States strikes in Venezuela today. The article was created via WP:SPLIT at 16:05 UTC, prodded at 17:11, de-prodded at 17:17, sent to AFD at 17:21, and the AFD was snow-closed at 18:25.

Maybe a note in Template:Current about avoiding deletion during the first 24–72 hours, because the event's significance may not be obvious to everyone? WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:26, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

Ah yes, that thread that was inspired by me realizing that no one had a crystal ball to know whether Erika Kirk would turn out to be notable. Seems like my idea of a wait and see option still has some interest if you remember it. :) I have to say it was a surprise this morning to wake up to the current news. My first thought nowadays when seeing something like that is to check whether it's causing havoc on Wikipedia (for example, I reduced the Assassination of Charlie Kirk article from full protection down to extended confirmed once I had managed to inspire two editors to work on an edit filter to prevent BLP vios that were a recurring issue). So this morning involved me doing a quick semi-protect of Cilia Flores before moving on with my day. I'd have to go digging, but I think some other editor ended up proposing that there simply be a "wait and see" !vote instead of closing AfDs automatically within a certain timeframe, which seemed like a reasonable compromise to me. I'm not sure if that ended up going anywhere. I'd advise proposing changes to the template on the talk page because bold edits might be a bit controversial. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 03:04, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
You're thinking of Wikipedia talk:Speedy keep#Speedy close for recent events of unclear notability. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:42, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

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Re: Science fiction

Reading through it now. Immediate Orson Scott Card vibes. The in medias res is slightly jarring. A lot of science fiction uses prologue-like devices to help the reader gradually enter the world you've created, although I realize that prologues can be controversial with some writers. You may be very interested in the way Ian Banks uses them in the Culture series. My take is he does this because he assumes that most readers aren't going to slog through ten books composed of thousands of pages. But it's a cool way to setup the narrative in less than ten pages. I think if you gave me a prologue-like invitation to the story, that would make me feel more comfortable as a reader. Otherwise, I feel like I just walked into a party as an uninvited guest. Viriditas (talk) 02:29, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

@Viriditas: Would you say it broke your immersion completely or just that it wasn't your personal preference? I find that most people perceive writing as weaker if it requires exposition. I think you're the first person I've met that actually prefers it the other way around. It might also be a matter of generational differences? In medias res seems to be quite common for YA fiction these days, whereas you see prologues more with "traditional" sci-fi. Personally I've always liked stories that slowly weave the worldbuilding into the narrative. Dracula is a really good example of this. My characters are confused about what is going on as well, so it's more like you're secretly along for the ride instead of an uninvited guest. Although maybe that reframing doesn't do it for you. I understand if that's the case. My email is always open if you ever want to have extended conversations about fiction. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 03:48, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
You're right about the YA fiction approach; I definitely picked that up from what you sent me and it comes through loud and clear. Viriditas (talk) 03:56, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
When facing difficulty in writing a story, Isaac Asimov once received the advice to start later in the narrative. It became something he would often do whenever he got blocked, knowing he could rework the earlier portions of the narrative into the story later on. As I recall, he had two key pieces of advice for writers: know where the story is going, and start later. (He was thankful for those like John Campbell and Frederik Pohl, who had the talent of being able to offer suggestions to improve the writing of others, which he was aware he mostly lacked.) isaacl (talk) 03:59, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Speaking of Asimov, Seth Andrews recently recorded a version of "The Last Question". If you know his voice, but haven't heard him read it, then you're in for a ride. Viriditas (talk) 04:03, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
The problem is that I've known most of the plot for years but have faced difficulty actually writing it all. Writer's block sucks although I think I'm slowly fighting my way out of it. I sent Viriditas some notes about my worldbuilding and what I hope to accomplish eventually. I hope they at least enjoyed the premise. I get very excited about the details and hope to do them justice. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:04, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Use the index card, post-it note whiteboard system all of the television writers use. There's even software you can download that does it. Viriditas (talk) 04:06, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Without saying too much, the keystone is the flower. Spend a week just writing about the flower. The entire story will come together from that one central point. It will work, just try it. Viriditas (talk) 05:01, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Vital signs 2026

Hi Clover! You've been asking intelligent questions on WT:MED for a while, and I was wondering if you'd be interested in joining the Vital Signs 2026 campaign. We're trying to update all top-importance medical articles to B-class or above, and can use a few more hands. Editing these big articles is easier than you think: the bigger the topic, the more established clinical guidelines and easy-to-read review papers exist. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 12:23, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

@Femke: Hmmm. I've been avoiding time-intensive volunteer work lately in an effort to focus more on real-life projects such as my writing and moving to a new city. I felt a bit bad saying no to the backlog drive for NPP as I normally participate whenever they're going on. I have been trying to get better at learning how to address issues in medical content on Wikipedia because there's more nuance to the sourcing requirements but I'm not sure I'm quite at the level where I feel like I could take on a whole article by myself. But this appears to be a year-long project? If you'd be willing to work on an article with me, I could see myself taking on that challenge. A little help makes a world of difference sometimes. I try not to be reckless when doing new things. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 03:56, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Absolutely willing to help :). With medical articles, to some extent there's less nuance in the source selections. A lot of grey area sources are simply not allowed and strongly discouraged, meaning that you end of with mostly really good sources that are not too difficult to use. When you've got the head space, let me know what article you might want to take up. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:18, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

ANI

Hey Clover, I saw that you are active and I was hoping an admin could take a look at this: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#~2026-23354-3. Thanks, Marincyclist (talk) 04:09, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

@Marincyclist: I've blocked the TA in question. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:24, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
@Clovermoss Thank you for your help! Marincyclist (talk) 04:27, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

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Authentication on the web

Regarding this comment: each request made to a web server is handled by the server independently from the other, even if they are all from the same browser with the same user at the same computer. So to check if a given user is authorized to make a given request, the request has to be authenticated, and then the corresponding permissions/authorization controls for that user can be checked. For technical reasons, the built-in HTTP authentication methods don't scale well in practice, so authentication is typically handled by having a login page, and then in response to the user logging in correctly, the web server sends back a cookie with a session identifier. All subsequent requests from that user (on the same browser and computer) will send back the cookie with the request, and the server can use the session identifier to check that it corresponds to a valid, authenticated session that started when the user logged in. The session ID has to be sufficient random that an attacker can't just guess a valid session ID, and to that end, it's best practice for sessions to time out in order to limit the period during which an attacker can guess the associated ID. (The requests sent through the network are encrypted when using the HTTPS protocol, so attackers can't just intercept the request somewhere in the network and read the cookie.)

Non-logged in users now also get a cookie with a session ID of sorts. It links subsequent requests to the initial request. But as there is no registered account associated with it, there's no account-specific data associated with it. Users can clear their cookies, use a different browser, or use a different computer, and they'll get a new cookie with a new identifier (and a different temporary account). So the implementation of temporary accounts doesn't use any mechanism that would help with identifying sock farms. There are limits placed on how many temporary accounts can be created from a given IP address within a specific period of time. SecurePoll already allows scrutineers to sort votes by IP address. Given how network gateways can make many users appear to come from a single IP address, I'm not sure it would be a good idea for SecurePoll to implement IP-based throttles. isaacl (talk) 03:41, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

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Help with the Suicide among LGBTQ people article

Hello! I recently came upon your proposal to reassess GA status for the article on Suicide. In it, you bring up how the article does not mention LGBTQ people, which prompted me to add a Sexual and gender variance section to the page in order to fix that issue. In turn, this led me to theSuicide among LGBTQ people article, and, particularly, the bad state it is in. Other than some highly dubious information about trans suicides (which has thankfully now been removed), the article uses very old sources, mainly primary studies, and may also need some help on the wording. I put up an update template about this and made a list of recent WP:MEDRS on the Talk Page. Sadly, I am facing some very difficult time constraints, so I do not believe I will be able to sufficiently update the article myself. Since you seem to be a prolific LGBTQ editor who has taken interest in the topic, I would appreciate if you could take a look. Thanks! Amateur Truther (talk) 14:11, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi AmateurTruther. I appreciate you reaching out to me, but I don't think I'll realistically be able to take on a task like that in the near future. I have a lot on my plate as well, especially when it comes to my life offline. I also only have so much tolerance for emotionally heavy subjects. When I have the headspace for that, I usually am trying to focus on the article about Jehovah's Witnesses, which I've been working on and off for about three years now. That said, you definitely have some serious research skills and I have faith that you'll make a meaningful difference to content quality in this subject when you have the time. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:38, 4 February 2026 (UTC)
That's completely understandable. I have already made some changed to the article, and will likely try to make more in the near future. I thank you for your attention. Amateur Truther (talk) 11:49, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

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You've got mail!

Hello, Clovermoss. Please check your email; you've got mail!
Message added 21:20, 19 March 2026 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

--TedEdwards 21:20, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

@TedEdwards: I just want to confirm that I've read your email. I'm still thinking about the best way to reply, but you should hear from me within the next few hours. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:47, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
@TedEdwards: I have now replied. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 22:14, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
Thanks for you reply. I have in turn replied back. --TedEdwards 03:10, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
Thanks for all your help. I have just sent you one more email that's tangential to what we've been talking about. --TedEdwards 23:29, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
@TedEdwards: I'm glad I could help. Not to brag, but I do seem to have a pretty high success rate when it comes to solving problems. 😅 As for the other email... I appreciate the tip. I'm going to look into that more deeply and think about what I should do about that, as well. It might take me a few days. I like to be thorough and confident about anything I'm doing in my admin capacity. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 23:34, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
@TedEdwards: I just wanted to say that I did do something about this instead of leaving it alone. I forwarded these concerns to the oversight team. I also started a thread at Wikipedia talk:Child protection#Role of ArbCom/T&S?, in case you have thoughts you wish to share there in a general sense. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:14, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Thanks for emailing them. I have been thinking about what's happened, but I'm not sure if my idea I've come up with is relevant to the discussion you started, but I'll state it here:
By the sounds of it there could be a repeated problem of editors putting photos (or some other images) of child nudity where it is not sufficiently encyclopedic (not adding information), or where a less WP:SHOCKing depiction that serves the same purpose. If that's the case, we could create an equivalent to the MediaWiki:Bad image list for photos of child nudity and perhaps other types of images. This would mean that only admins or interface editors can add new photos of child nudity to articles i.e. this could only happen after consensus or someone with experience saying that it is suitable for this image to be added. Then every photo on Commons depicting child nudity could be added to the list, which I doubt would be to difficult assuming they are all well-categorised there. I don't think this could reasonably be seen as censorship, since it doesn't ban such images, only ensures they are included only when necessary, to avoid the aggressive POV-pushing.
Also, don't know if it's worth having a guideline where, if an image depicting nudity is necessary, that an image of adult nudity should be used to illustrate the relevant concept, unless only an image of child nudity would suffice. Though I think a guideline like this does recognise images of child nudity are necessary in various situations (e.g. Nirvana's album Nevermind or Phan Thi Kim Phuc a.k.a the Napalm Girl), I think some editors might think that would be too stringent and also think this guideline pushes the opposite POV to those editors you've seen: that all images of child nudity are immoral.
Feel free to ask questions about this proposal :) --TedEdwards 21:51, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
@TedEdwards: I think it's worth asking what other people think at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) if you want to propose something. I think I've spent too much time thinking about the underlying subject matter the past few days. My PTSD symptoms aren't as severe as they were back when I was a child, but it's all triggering nonetheless. Not that that's your fault or anything, I'm just saying that I'd prefer not to get too involved with anything past what I already did. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 22:19, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Ah no worries. I hope you manage to stay well despite what's happened and what you've been through. --TedEdwards 22:26, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, I couldn't see the email you sent me

First time receiving a mail from here. It isn't in the email account I submitted upon registration and I cant click to read from the notification here. Dolpina (talk) 12:09, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

@Dolpina: Ah, fair enough. I believe you can change the email used here. It was mostly just me expressing sympathy for your situation, as I saw what was going in the page history/at the noticeboard thread and recognized that would be stressful to deal with. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 12:19, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Yeah thank you. I'll do that. It has been stressful. Also going on with a non notable article created with LLMs with original research and sources that say different thing [[ichafu (headdress)]]. The premise is that a word for scarf is equivalent to a Gele when basically it can be applied to anything with that logic. Just a lot of accounts that popped up recently flooding there as well as some "sleeper" accounts. Dolpina (talk) 12:23, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
@Dolpina: Hopefully everything will be sorted out soon, especially once someone more experienced about dealing with sockpuppetry gets involved. In the meantime, try to take care of yourself. I find taking hot baths, taking walks in nature, and journalling to be incredibly helpful when I'm feeling stressed, but you probably have your own habits. If you want something to look forward to, maybe we could work on an article together after all this is over? I don't really have much experience in editing subjects outside of North America, but I could definitely try. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 12:29, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll get myself some rest and calm ha ha. And yeah I'd love to work on an article or more with you. Dolpina (talk) 12:33, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Help with editing on phone

Hi Clovermoss,

I met you in New York and I know you are a friend/colleague of Jere Odell. I work with a group in Nairobi that meets on Tuesdays at 12 ET. I can send you the link or we will find a date that works for you. my dm is rosalindhinton@mac.com Rosalind Hinton RosPost 20:04, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

@RosPost: That specific name doesn't really ring a bell, but I meet a lot of people these days. I do know that occasionally people ask me for learning how to help other people with mobile editing and I'm guessing that's the case here. I'd be happy to offer my advice. Using Special:Email to set up a date and time would work fine. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:11, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Barnstar!

The Special Barnstar
For your creation of Stroller that amazingly didn't exist until today! Well done for finding that! {{GearsDatapack|talk|contribs}} 09:37, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

The new CEO

Hi everyone, I had my first meeting with Bernadette today. It went very well. I'd say her interest in hearing from other volunteers is incredibly sincere and it's very encouraging to see that. She comes across as very approachable, so I'd definitely say it's worth it for other people to reach out if there's anything you want to bring up about the future of the WMF. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:46, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Q: Did you set up a meeting, or rather was it spontaneous (i.e. them reaching out)? Sohom (talk) 19:50, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
@Sohom Datta: I set it up. Apparently I was the first volunteer in the movement to reach out to her by email so I had a bit of a headstart lol. I'd reach out at bmeehan@wikimedia.org if you're interested in talking with her too. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:58, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

That's good to hear. For what it's worth, she has been replying to posts on her user talk page on Meta. ↠Pine () 20:47, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Help to find an editor to set up a wikipedia page

Hello Hannah,

I am hoping that this is the correct method to reach you? I am researching to create a wikipedia presence with a page and I am hoping that you can please help me to find a volunteer editor to submit the content and references I have created?

I have resided in the Niagara region since 2022. I am Canadian, but as a professional magician I traveled internationally for more than 30+ years. Last year I wrote a book "The Power of Magical Women" which is an anthology including 70+ female magicians. It would be very helpful to have a Wikipedia presence.

If you can please help me or guide me with connections or suggestions about how to be included within Wikipedia I would be very grateful. I have been struggling to understand how to connect with the correct people to obtain this goal. Thanks in advance, Connie Boyd ~2026-18659-35 (talk) 21:38, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi Connie, this is how people generally reach me. If you wish to create a draft, you should read this page. The most crucial thing to be aware of is that Wikipedia has specific guidelines for when someone is considered "notable" and most people do not meet that criteria. You can read more about what is required here, but generally speaking, you're looking at 3 different reliable sources (typically something like newspaper articles) that talk about you/your career in significant detail. Since you are looking for help, I'll also warn you that sometimes people try to scam people, and if anyone ever promises you they can create an article for money, they're probably trying to take advantage of you. Let me know if you have any questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 21:45, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Question from Rocksvillewiki (03:24, 26 March 2026)

Hello.I wanted to make an article about a Micronation that I (made from a neutral perspective ) including its 2 year history I wanted to know how.if. I could do this. Thanks! --Rocksvillewiki (talk) 03:24, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi Rocksvillewiki. Micronations are a tricky area to write about. First, what you need is at least three reliable and independent sources that talk about about the concept in detail (see Wikipedia's notability criteria). If that coverage does indeed exist, you'd need to be careful how you write about it (be clear that it's a micronation and that it is legally part of this bigger area, what places recognize it if any, etc). Generally speaking, the notability criteria is the biggest hurdle. Let me know if you have any questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:33, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Question from Krazy-Eight (16:51, 26 March 2026)

Hello, I was wondering how to create a page? --Krazy-Eight (talk) 16:51, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

@Krazy-Eight: There's a pretty detailed guide here. Let me know if you have any further questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:03, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for being such great admins for this site! (Talk) PHLOGISTON ENTHUSIAST 17:38, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
@Phlogiston Enthusiast: Thanks. I read your userpage and you seem to find fires interesting, so maybe you'll like knowing I took the lead image at Self-contained breathing apparatus. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:50, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
OMG!!! Where did you get that??? Very cool, I need one for myself! I hate it when the smoke gets in my lungs so much. Worst thing about fires is the smoke for sure. Such a cool photo!! (Talk) PHLOGISTON ENTHUSIAST 20:07, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
@Phlogiston Enthusiast: I took that photograph when I was learning how to put out fires. I'm a sailor so we need to be the firefighters if anything goes terribly wrong. We even got put in a completely dark room (to simulate losing power) and finding dummies within the alloted air. It was pretty badass. That said, I think my favourite parts were all the stuff we did at the YMCA with a lifecraft and immersion suit in their pool. So this is basically a really long way of explaining that I don't really own this in a personal capacity. I doubt it's something that's easy to get as a member of the general public. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:18, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
Dang. I really would hate to be a firefighter, personally, but I really appreciate you all the more for your hard work. I doubt a Firefighting area would hire me nonetheless, honestly. How did they simulate only having limited amounts of air? Did they actually seal the room? What if you suffocated? (Talk) PHLOGISTON ENTHUSIAST 20:20, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
@Phlogiston Enthusiast: So the place I did all this at had a room specifically designed for this that could easily have the power turned on/off and didn't have any windows. It wasn't "sealed" per se, but we had to use all the firefighting equipment when we were doing the exercises because it's heavy and you need to know how to use it. The SCBA had 30 minutes of air and we had to finish whatever we were doing before it ran out. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:24, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
Wow. I didn't think Firefighting equipment would be heavy. Have you ever been in a Fire Lookout Tower? Also, do you have any advice on safe fire dousing? (Talk) PHLOGISTON ENTHUSIAST 20:38, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
@Phlogiston Enthusiast: Haven't been to a fire lookout tower as far as I know. As for firefighting advice, I'm not really comfortable giving out tips. I'd hate to give you a false sense of safety, you know? It's also one thing to say something and another to do it. Anyways, if you like photographing places like that, you could try doing WikiShootMe. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:44, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
Fair enough. I'm real competent in fire safety because I usually set them in safe areas in my backyard and then put them out after I'm done. (Talk) PHLOGISTON ENTHUSIAST 20:45, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
I should get a campfire. (Talk) PHLOGISTON ENTHUSIAST 20:45, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Question from IndieWriter22 (05:34, 28 March 2026)

Hello. I've noticed that Wikipedia does not have any articles for certain higly influential indie rock bands I'd like to write for. Can you show me how to do it? --IndieWriter22 (talk) 05:34, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

@IndieWriter22: I can definitely give you some tips. :) Highly influential sounds good, but I also know that label can be somewhat subjective. The requirements for what Wikipedia considers a notable band can be found here. If that sounds like what you want to write about, we can go from there. Let me know if you have any further questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 05:37, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
Thanks IndieWriter22 (talk) 05:47, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Upcoming Wikimedia Café meetup regarding the the 2026-2027 Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:George L. Kelling.webp

A tag has been placed on File:George L. Kelling.webp requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a non-free file from a commercial source (e.g. Associated Press, Getty Images), where the file itself is not the subject of sourced commentary. If you can explain why the file can be used under the non-free content guidelines, please add the appropriate non-free use tag and rationale.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. REAL 💬 14:41, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

@999real: I'm not sure you understand our WP:NFC guidelines. The file is fine, as the subject of the photograph is dead and it's only used in the infobox of the article about them. This is fairly standard practice, hence the way the form is filled out. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:50, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
Literacy Is A Blessing!! REAL 💬 15:11, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
@999real: Implying another editor is illiterate is against our civility policy. I'd also recommend you not revert admins who decline your speedy deletions. It's not a good look. I've been doing some further reading into F7 specifically and it seems like the community has slightly different reactions to it, the guides do not explain it well, and our intrepration of it may be stricter than the actual law (hence why it did not show up as a red flag to me because it looks like a file like this one easily pass all 10 criteria for NFC). FfD have consistently kept such files like the one in these cases as well, from my understanding. I think this might be one of these situations where we need to revisit the entire crux of an issue as a community to make sure things are being consistently dealt with, one way or the other. I'm strongly of the belief that even if you could technically license something, commercial viability is minimal months or years after a subject has died. In the meantime, I strongly recommend you slow down and stop doing this en masse, as that could be considered disruptive and lead to a block from an uninvolved admin. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
The policy is clear and you aint give one of example of keeping them if you think the policy should be changed go propose it REAL 💬 15:34, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
@999real: Even if you believe you're completely right on the merits, taking an action en masse like this is incredibly disruptive. If you're wrong and an admin has to decline your nominations en masse, that takes considerable time. Addressing FfDs en masse takes considerable time. Pausing while people figure out how they want to deal with this (such as removing or rephrasing a speedy deletion criteria that is beyond the realms of standard practice for how people actually deal with such things) would be the responsible thing to do. Haven't you noticed that a lot of files you're doing this to have been here for months? I've considered the possibility I could be wrong, you should too. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:42, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
I been doing this for a while and I aint the only one who do it nor the one who chooses to delete them REAL 💬 16:12, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
Images from commercial photo agencies are subject to speedy deletion per WP:F7 item "b". The reason is that they fail WP:NFCC#2. The exception is if the photograph itself is the subject of commentary. -- Whpq (talk) 21:27, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
@Whpq: I see that, but I think that's wrong with how people generally approach such things, at least the "newer" generations of admins. I think it's worth a discussion at AN because the way people apply this in practice seems to be very different based on discussions I've had with several admins today. It might be one of the speedy deletion criteria that need to be retired or rephrased, like U5 was. I don't think the usage of such files automatically fails NFC#2, especially months after the subject's death. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 21:33, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
Really? In most cases, including this one, it is very clear cut. Is this an Associated Press image? Yes. Is the photo itself the subject of critical commentary? No, it is being used for visual identification. F7 even gives AP as one of the example agencies for which this applies. -- Whpq (talk) 21:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
@Whpq: Yup, there's substantial disagreement. I rely heavily on how the form itself is worded as well as the criteria itself. Even a Commons admin told me that it's about balancing usage against other aspects of fair use and isn't nessecarily an automatic fail. The admin that declined several of the nominations specializes in copyright issues and even she didn't have that opinion, at least not earlier today, and seemed to vaguely recall several FfDs that had such a result. I think part of this stems from people not nessecarily being super aware of the speedy deletion criteria for files, even if they're uploading non-free content. But there's a reason the form specifies whether the subject died recently, and I think that should be enough. If we have some hard cut rule like "no non-free files for historic portraits the month after a subject's death" to limit possible commerical impact, we should be fine. Regardless, it is not helpful for contradictory outcomes to exist, and such things should be consistent. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 21:42, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
@Whpq: Please feel free to comment at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Rethinking F7. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 22:10, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Non-free content on each project

By request, for the comparison project, less than 10% of the fleet have a page connected to WP:NFC. (And I checked one or two and their point of view is "no non-free content" so you'd have to check each to get a precise number.) Which means 90% provide no exception for non-free content. Izno (talk) 18:14, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Question from Yama bep (04:47, 30 March 2026)

Hello, I was reading about Brown v. Board of Education and decided to add a piece of information I thought was interesting and maybe important from the book. You can see it on my edit history (I think).

Can you review my work to see if I did anything wrong?

I hope to be a good wikipedia editor because I enjoy adding knowledge to the world. Thanks! --Yama bep (talk) 04:47, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi Yama bep and welcome to Wikipedia. You can see a list of all your contributions here. They look like good edits to me. I might change the wording slightly (remove the "many" before observers) but that's somewhat of a nitpick on my part. I'll leave some helpful links on your talk page to help give you a sense of direction. I am also always here if you ever need have further questions. Happy editing! Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:53, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Question from YogaIsSelfLove (19:06, 30 March 2026)

New editor seeking guidance — creating article with COI disclosure

Hi Hannah, I'm a new editor and you've been assigned as my mentor. I'd really appreciate your guidance before I take any steps, as I want to do this correctly from the start. I'd like to create a Wikipedia article about Mount Madonna Center, a nonprofit yoga retreat center, intentional community, and school located in Watsonville, California. It was founded in 1978 by Indian yoga master Baba Hari Dass and has been operating for nearly 50 years. It currently has no Wikipedia page. I need to be upfront about my connection to the subject. I have volunteered at Mount Madonna Center for several years, and my partner works there. I understand this is a conflict of interest under Wikipedia's guidelines, and I have already declared this on my User page. Because of my COI, I plan to submit the article through the Articles for Creation process as a draft rather than publishing it directly, so that an independent editor can review it before anything goes live. I have done significant research using independent third-party sources — including the Santa Cruz Sentinel, Yoga Journal, Good Times Santa Cruz, Hinduism Today, India West, the Encyclopedia of Hinduism, and the Wall Street Journal — and I believe the subject meets Wikipedia's notability requirements. Before I submit the draft, I have two questions:

Is there anything specific I should do or avoid given my COI situation? Would you be willing to look over my draft before I formally submit it to AfC?

Thank you for your time. I really want to do this the right way. - YogaIsSelfLove --YogaIsSelfLove (talk) 19:06, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

@YogaIsSelfLove: I'm glad you're being transparent about this. :) It seems like you're doing everything you should be doing: declaring your COI, using AfC, etc. The thing I'd be the most careful about is avoiding promotional language, but you've probably already considered that. Usually the biggest problem COI editors run into is a lack of notability, but it sounds like you have enough secondary sources to meet our inclusion standards. I could definitely give more specific feedback once you have a draft. Let me know when you want me to take a look. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:19, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2026 Issue 6

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Question from Christoballer (10:50, 1 April 2026)

Hello Hannah,

I am editing a page about Pauline A. Young. I did research about her father in undergrad so the link to the source I have is to a database (ProQuest Historical Newspapers) behind a paywall that I no longer have access to. I do on the other have have relevant information such as date, publication and title of the article. Does that suffice or should I try to find a link to the article? I do also have an image of it although I am unsure if it is protected by copyright. --Christoballer (talk) 10:50, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

@Christoballer: If you have an image of it, you can use it for yourself to make sure you're not just going off memory (uploading it would be a copyright violation), and just cite the date/publication/work. You don't need to provide a URL. Hope that helps. :) Let me know if you have any other questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:13, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Question from Eva Hanif (15:30, 1 April 2026)

Hi.:] --Eva Hanif (talk) 15:30, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

How do i edit somthing? --Eva Hanif (talk) 15:31, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Can i make an app/website --Eva Hanif (talk) 15:32, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi Eva Hanif. You can edit most pages by clicking the edit button. If you can't do that, the article is probably protected but you can still make edit requests. You can't make an app/website because that's not what Wikipedia is for. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Question from Armarj4 (07:27, 5 April 2026)

Hello,

I visited a wiki page regarding "Council of Ministers of Nepal", and found that it lacks information on oath taking, I did add a section on this. Is this appropriate and does this how it works? --Armarj4 (talk) 07:27, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi Armarj4, I assume you're talking about this edit? It looks reasonable to me, especially because you cited a source, although I admit I don't know much about politics in Nepal. Wikipedia:WikiProject Nepal might be a good space to find other people who have more familarity with the subject matter. You can always come to me, of course, I just want to let you know about other options. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:18, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2026

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2026).

Administrator changes

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Checkuser changes

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Oversight changes

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Guideline and policy news

Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the GSCASTE extended-confirmed restriction in the Indian military history case has been narrowed. It now applies to caste-related topics in South Asia, and the preemptive protection remedy has been amended accordingly.
  • The arbitration case Pbsouthwood has been closed.
  • The arbitration case Maghreb has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 7 April.

Wikimedia Apps Newsletter – First Quarter of 2026

Hello, and welcome to the first newsletter of 2026!

In this edition, we’ll walk you through the main updates, experiments, and improvements in the Wikipedia mobile apps during January, February, and early March.

iOS

This quarter focused on scaling and improving the Activity Tab experience.

We released the Activity Tab to all users and continued refining it with:

  • New editing insights, including all-time impact, recent activity, and views.
  • Monthly highlights such as most viewed edits and contributions.
  • Improved onboarding and empty states for different user types.
  • Better navigation within reading history and timelines.
  • Continued survey collection (extended through April).

We also fixed several issues related to saved article syncing, timeline, and deleting items.

Results from scaling

Our goal was to increase account creation by 5%. The results significantly exceeded expectations:

  • Account creation increased by 91% after scaling.
  • 25% of all new accounts were created through the Activity Tab.
  • 18.5% of new users saved an article, and 2.9% made an edit.

We also observed stronger retention among Activity Tab users:

  • 93.8% of logged-in users returned to the app.
  • 91.8% of logged-out users returned.
  • Compared to overall app return rates of 81.9% and 72.1%.

Learnings

  • Personalization continues to drive account creation.
  • Users are more likely to engage in reading than editing.
  • Navigation changes need clearer communication.

Next steps

  • Improve clarity around the History location in Search.
  • Add clearer messaging and guidance, especially for logged-out users.

The team also focused on preparations for migrating the app to Liquid Glass, planned for April. We completed a gap analysis and audit, and then triaged and prioritized tasks.

  • Adding “close all tabs” functionality.
  • Highlighting the active tab.
  • Introducing long-press previews.
  • iOS designs for the “Which came first?” game were completed.

As part of ongoing improvements:

  • History was moved into the Search tab.
  • Adjustments are being made to better support logged-out users and reduce confusion.

Other iOS Updates

  • Integrated hCaptcha into account creation for test wiki.
  • Conducted Explore Feed audit and design groundwork.
  • Fixed multiple bugs, including issues with search, saved articles, and donation flows.

Android

We began testing a new hybrid search experience that combines keyword-based and natural language search.

  • The experiment is now available in beta for Greek, English and Portuguese Wikipedia.
  • Users can opt in or out of the experience.
  • This is part of Phase 1 of the Information Retrieval project.

Other Android Updates

  • Continued work on hCaptcha integration for account creation on test wiki.
  • Improved donation clarity by adding ISO currency codes.
  • Updated image handling to match MediaWiki standards.
  • Ran an A/B test for the Google Play product page (Japanese users).

We also fixed several issues, including:

  • Background re-login issues.
  • Incorrect article titles in Year in Review.
  • Reading list syncing problems.
  • Translation and UI inconsistencies.

Cross-Platform

Across both apps, we continued design and research work to rethink the Explore experience, with the design principles of:

  • Retention before depth: reasons to come back matter more than any single deep read.
  • Discovery through remixing: snippets and previews lead into articles, never replace them.
  • Transparent personalization: "Because you follow..." not a black box.
  • Calm, trustworthy browsing: productive and credible.

Design work continued on improving the Explore feed:

  • Two visual directions were developed and wireframed.
  • Different onboarding approaches were explored.
  • User testing is being prepared.

Our current hypothesis is that a more personalized and structured feed will help users better understand its value and increase daily usage. User testing will help determine the direction to move forward.

  • Both teams shared results on the Year in Review project pages (Android, iOS).

The Apps team has started conversations with communities to explore how editing should work on the mobile apps.

The goal is to better support both new and experienced editors, and to guide users toward the right editing tools.

Community input is welcome, and discussions are ongoing.

Looking Ahead

This quarter focused on scaling successful features, especially the Activity Tab, and continuing foundational work on Search and Explore feed.

We’re seeing strong signals around personalization, engagement, and new ways to guide users through reading and editing.

Thank you for following along, and stay tuned for the next updates later this year.

~~ARamadan-WMF11:46, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Sorry

Thank you for suppressing them, and I’m sorry about the ridiculous experience. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:49, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

@Vanderwaalforces: Technically, I only revdelled the edits in question (single crossed out line, OS'd shows two). I'm not an oversighter (and thus can't suppress things), but that's not needed here anyways. As for creeps leaving sexual comments, I'm somewhat used to it by now. It's an unfortunate part of being a woman on the Internet. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 22:14, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Nathan Knorr

On December 10, 2024, you tagged Nathan Knorr's biography for lack of secondary or tertiary sources. Could you take a look to see if the tag is still necessary?. Thanks. Jairon Levid Abimael Caál Orozco (talk) 20:53, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi Jairon Levid Abimael Caál Orozco, I agree that there's more sourcing (and it seems like that was mostly a result of your efforts, so thank you), but I believe the tag is still valid at the moment. There's still a heavy reliance on publications from the Watchtower Society such as the Proclaimer's book. Ideally that wouldn't be the case. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 02:27, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Question from Jeansmithkells on Robert, Duke of Bar (01:02, 13 April 2026)

Hello, how do I flag a query? Is his son Henry's birth date of 1362 correct as his father's marriage is given as 1364 which would make Henry illegitimate. --Jeansmithkells (talk) 01:02, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi Jeansmithkells, thanks for noticing this and bringing this up as a potential issue. I've added an inline tag to the article in this edit. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:46, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2026 Issue 7

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Wikipedian percentage

I had no idea that User:TortoiseWrath/Boxen/Percentage was even a thing until I read your userpage just now! What a cool userbox - turns out I've been a Wikipedian for more than 55% of my life so far. Thanks for adding that to your userpage, which led to me finding it and then adding it to mine :) Acalamari 10:10, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

55% of your life is wowing, I must say. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:39, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
I've always liked that userbox. I'm glad other people feel the same way. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:08, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Question from Criloh (23:34, 17 April 2026)

Hey I have a question about editing how do you use the advanced editing stuff correctly? --*sigh* Welp Criloh (did this) 23:34, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

@Criloh: It depends on what you're trying to do, but if you want a page that covers everything, Wikipedia:Source editor is what you're looking for. Let me know if you have any other questions. I'd be happy to help. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:32, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
thank you alot for the help *sigh* Welp Criloh (did this) 13:23, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

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Wikipedia humor

Question from Yama bep (06:18, 21 April 2026)

Hello, I've been reading about Wikipedia image policy but am still a little bit confused.

Just to be sure, if I took a picture of the mayor of my city when she was giving a speech, I am the copyright owner and thus can upload it to Wikimedia?

Also, if I email her and ask her for a photo to be used on Wikipedia would that be okay? --Yama bep (talk) 06:18, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

@Yama bep: Uploading a picture you took of the mayor would be fine. Your understanding is correct. :)
If you emailed them to ask for a photo, they would need to be the copyright owner of whatever photo they wanted to use and they would give to email photosubmission@wikimedia.org so another volunteer could upload it (there's some legal intracies involved). Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 08:31, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

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Question from ShaikhTanveerAhmed-ChairmanHANDS (09:22, 21 April 2026)

Hello Hannah can you please guide how can I upload my picture? --ShaikhTanveerAhmed-ChairmanHANDS (talk) 09:22, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

@ShaikhTanveerAhmed-ChairmanHANDS: Generally speaking, there would be no reason to upload a photograph of yourself unless you were the subject of an existing article. Is that the case? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:52, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Destubathon of the Americas

Hello there! You are invited to participate in the Destubathon of the Americas, a contest/editathon which will run from May 1 to May 31. The goal is to destub as many of our 475,000+ stubs for the Americas (from Alaska down to Chile) as possible. A good chance to have fun in expanding many of our old stale stubs and win up to £2000 ($2680) in Amazon vouchers for expanding stub articles. Sign up in the Contestants/participants section on the contest page if interested. Even if not interested in prizes you are still warmly welcome to participate in it as an editathon! Hopefully we can achieve something significant in the month of May together! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:58, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

May 2026 Administrator Elections – Schedule

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Question from Mchizi Pingu (00:44, 23 April 2026)

Hello, how can I create music page --Mchizi Pingu (talk) 00:44, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello, is it allowed to write about Mchizi Pingu, using the same account of Mchizi Pingu? --Mchizi Pingu (talk) 00:47, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
@Mchizi Pingu: You can create a draft, but Wikipedia has specific criteria for who is considered notable for inclusion and very few people qualify. If that's the case for you, it would be better to redirect your energy into other endeavors. Let me know if you have any other questions about editing. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:09, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

Question from Robbie Tatone (03:15, 25 April 2026)

Hi there, I just recently started making edits on Wikipedia and looking for articles that I could improve. There was one specifically that I was interested in, however, it seemed to have some more complex problems that are beyond my current skill level. It is titled Turnpike (software). I noticed some areas in the article(specifically the lead section and paragraph 3 of compatibility) seemed to violate the Neutral Point of View rules and lacked sources. In this specific scenario, what would you recommend I do? I considered adding something to the talk page, but it hasn't been in use since 2016. Thanks for looking into this, and I'm looking forward to my time here!

Robbie Tatone --Robbie Tatone (talk) 03:15, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi Robbie Tatone. A lot of talk pages on less viewed articles aren't very active, so people are generally encouraged to be bold. If you think you can improve the article, feel free to try. Worst case scenario is that someone undos it and you start a discussion about the changes (WP:BRD). Do you know which sources you'd like to cite? I can help you with figuring out formatting if that's your biggest barrier right now. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:26, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

May 2026 Administrator Election – Call for Candidates

The administrator elections process has officially started! Interested editors are encouraged to self-nominate or arrange to be nominated by reviewing the instructions at Wikipedia:Administrator elections/May 2026/Candidates.

Here is the schedule:

  • April 29 – May 5: Call for candidates
  • May 8–12: Discussion phase
  • May 13–19: SecurePoll voting phase

Please note the following:

  • The requirements to run are identical to RFA—a prospective candidate must be extended confirmed.
  • Prospective candidates are advised to become familiar with the community's expectations of administrators, which are much higher than the minimum requirement of having extended confirmed status. This includes reviewing successful and unsuccessful RFAs, reading the essay Wikipedia:Advice for admin elections candidates, and possibly requesting an optional poll on their chances of passing.
  • The process will have a seven day call for candidates phase, a two day pause, a five day discussion phase, and a seven day private vote using SecurePoll. Discussion and questions are only allowed on the candidate pages during the discussion phase.
  • The outcome of this process is identical to making a request for adminship. There is no official difference between an administrator appointed through RFA versus administrator elections.
  • Administrator elections are also a valid means of regaining adminship for de-sysopped editors.

Ask any questions about the process at the talk page. Later, a user talk message will be sent to official candidates with additional information about the process.

If you are interested in the process, please make sure to watchlist the appropriate pages. A watchlist notice will be added when the discussion phase opens, and again when the voting phase opens.

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New pages patrol May 2026 Backlog drive

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Question from Wildwood Mountain Coffee Co (01:01, 30 April 2026)

Hi,

Can I add articles that were written about our business. Ex. https://womansweek.net/wildwood-mountain-coffee-co-brewing-more-than-coffee-fueling-ambition-adventure-and-excellence/n about our business. --Wildwood Mountain Coffee Co (talk) 01:01, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

@Wildwood Mountain Coffee Co: Generally speaking, no. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and we have high standards for inclusion, particularly for companies. You'd need independent reliable sources to write about your business, such as newspapers. So sometimes it's a "later" instead of a "never". But new businesses rarely meet this criteria. We also have a username policy (you could rename to something like "[Your name] at Wildwood Mountain Coffee Co" if you'd like, but your efforts would probably be better spent promoting your business on social media instead, unless you have a generalized interest in writing an encyclopedia and wish to improve other subjects). Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:10, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
Could we have an About Us type article then to start with? Can any of the blogs I have written be added later? Wildwood Mountain Coffee Co (talk) 01:21, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
@Wildwood Mountain Coffee Co: No, Wikipedia really isn't the place you're looking for for that. See WP:NOTAD. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:25, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
FYI: There is a company called AIRIX.app telling people to get an article about their company on Wikipedia. Wildwood Mountain Coffee Co (talk) 01:28, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
@Wildwood Mountain Coffee Co: I strongly suggest reading WP:SCAM. There's also some information on that page on how to report such things. There's not much I can do about that on a personal level. Unfortunately, a lot of these companies know that they're offering false hope. If anyone ever tells you that they can promise an article for money, they're scamming you. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:41, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
Thank You! Wildwood Mountain Coffee Co (talk) 01:43, 30 April 2026 (UTC)