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TPA

Hi Girth Summit. I think it would be prudent to revoke talk page access for Alirana24. Their last posts are just soapbox diatribes where they say they will leave Wikipedia, then immediately followed by another unblock request. They were already caught socking so it's pretty obvious WP:NOTHERE behaviour. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

Oh and of course, the sock account M. Ali Rana. Same reasons and major time vortex. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:00, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
Sheesh - will go and do something... Girth Summit (blether) 16:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
I'm so sorry for trying to talk to him. I thought I could make him understand that Wikipedia isn't the right platform for his work, but he doesn't seem to understand. 🧙‍♀️ Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 17:44, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
No need to apologise, just best to leave it at this point. They're continuing to protest their innocence in the face of clear and unambiguous CU data - I don't think they are engaging with you in good faith, it's performative. Girth Summit (blether) 17:50, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

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Sockpuppet is back

Hi Girth Summit, I believe the same sockpuppet you blocked back in August 2023 on both Spellbound (Paula Abdul album) and Head over Heels (Paula Abdul album) is back again now using two IP's both locations are directed in the country of Turkey. I'm assuming it's Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/MariaJaydHicky both IP's are from Turkey and they're again trying to add in unsupported genres to the infobox. I sent both IP's a warning but after just now looking at the albums revisions they're once again trying to add the exact same refs they did back in 2023. Pillowdelight (talk) 03:11, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

That looks like them. No edits for a few days though, they've probably moved onto another IP. Ask at RfPP if they come back to target those pages. Girth Summit (blether) 09:25, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
They're back to reverting it again. Pillowdelight (talk) 17:02, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Speedy delete

I tagged the userpage for speedy deletion because they already have the contents in their sandbox, and they wanted some help publishing it correctly. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 20:54, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

I don't quite understand that. You tagged it as G11 - unambiguously promotional, no content suitable for an article. Surely it's either 'tag both', or choosea different CSD criterion? FWIW, I wouldn't be surprised if the subject was notable - he is a well a published academic, with a reasonable shot at an NPROF pass, or NAUTHOR if reviews of his work could be found. That doesn't mean I think he should be writing about himself, but I'd probably start with a conversation rather than a G11 tag on what was a fairly dry bit of writing. Girth Summit (blether) 21:28, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
I only tagged it because it was a duplicate of their sandbox. You're right; it shouldn't have been G11. Would U5 be appropriate? Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 21:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
U5 might have been nearer the mark, but I'd suggest having the conversation first, rather than retagging. It's not doing any harm in their userspace. If we're lucky, they might (just might) be willing to contribute some of their knowledge to our articles about statistics - let's not chase them out the door with CSD tags because they don't really know how this place works already. (At least he's trying to do it himself rather than paying spammers to do a slicker job!) Girth Summit (blether) 21:35, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
True. I've told him to find some sources and submit it through AfC instead of copying it to his userpage from his sandbox. I totally agree that we should make good-faith COI editors feel welcome here and help them, while making sure bad-faith UPEs don't spam the encyclopedia. It's a delicate balance. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 21:39, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

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SPI case

Hi there,

I was taking a look at the SPI case involving Akhtaradv and noticed you forgot to sign your post saying you indeffed their sock. Just wanted to give you a friendly reminder! Gommeh 🎮 20:47, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

Mmm. So, I should have signed it, and the clerk who archived it probably should have noted that it was me before pressing the archive button. I don't like editing archived cases, but I've put a note on this one for posterity, thanks, Girth Summit (blether) 20:52, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

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El archivo:cignal logo 2025 fue borrado por favor quiero que el archivo vuelve a estar en Wikipedia commons

por favor regresa el archivo en Wikipedia commons 201.246.228.246 (talk) 23:19, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

I don't speak Spanish, but Google Translate tells me that you're asking about whether a deleted file can be restored to Commons. It doesn't look like File:Cignal logo 2025 has ever existed here; without the exact file name, I can't look to see why it was deleted or whether restoring it to commons would be appropriate. Girth Summit (blether) 10:13, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

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SPI Question

Greetings, can I get your advice on an issue with User:Gwankoo, blocked as a suspected sockpuppet of User:Ethiopique? I saw you were active in the SPI.

1. I was rolling back a couple of thier questionable edits and found this indication of a (still active) alt account: . Should this alt account also be checked/blocked?

2. I was not able to find Gwankoo listed in Ethiopique's SPI. Is it normal that a suspected sockpuppet isn't always named in an investigation?

Thanks! Celjski Grad (talk) 11:17, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

Hi Celjski Grad - my thoughts below:
1 - I would not check that account without any behavioural evidence that they are the same person. A sock's word that they are an alt account of Person X is not evidence that Person X has done anything wrong - someone could create an account tomorrow and put on its userpage that it's an alt account of Celjski Grad, that could not be used as evidence of wrongdoing on your part, and would not justify me invading your privacy by running the CU tool on your account. Sockpuppeteers often claim to be people they're not - sometimes to obfuscate matters, sometimes just for fun. If you have any reason to suspect that account aside from the sock's assertion, by all means bring it to SPI, but if that's the only thing you've got to go on I'd just ignore it.
2 - It's not uncommon for a sock to be blocked and tagged without a report being raised. I often come across socks of Master B while investigating Master A, and will block them and tag them without going to the trouble of raising an SPI report. In this case, I see that Tamzin blocked and tagged them shortly after they posted this comment on their talk page - I don't know the history, but I'm guessing that Tamzin recognised them from that message, blocked and tagged on got on with other stuff.
Hope that helps. Girth Summit (blether) 12:13, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
Many thanks! Celjski Grad (talk) 12:15, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

Bensebgli/Anujror

Hello Girth Summit, I saw your comment at Sybercracker's talkpage, I agree that Sybercracker is a sockpuppet. I think Rasteem/@Bensebgli: is related to Sybercracker, can you consider running a check between the two? The same ungrammatical use of "abandon" in their comments is a smoking gun. See "that was just an attempt by Scotish to abandon me from Wikipedia" - Sybercracker and "This approach seems to be a coordinated attack to abandon me from Wikipedia indefinitely" - Rasteem (Bensebgli sock). Bensebgli has appeared numerous times as a suspected and confirmed master in previous Anujror filings and has also been confirmed to many of the reported users there. I think it is now at a point where both the sockfarms can be concluded to be operated by the same master on technical evidence. Ratnahastin (talk) 11:28, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if the two cases were linked to one another, but those accounts will be stale now. I might see if there's any more digging to be done when I have a bit of time, but it's not urgent that we figure out exactly which sock belongs to whom - they're all someone's socks and shouldn't be editing here. Girth Summit (blether) 12:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

You around?

Doug Weller talk 14:26, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

I am now. I'd been meaning to drop you a line to see how you were getting on. Girth Summit (blether) 16:29, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
Fine, I’ll email you. My talk page is plagued by socks righg now, just reverted one. Also [[[Special:Contributions/Palacepool]]]. I’ve never semi protected my talk page, maybe this time it’s needed. Doug Weller talk 16:41, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
Want me to press the button? Girth Summit (blether) 16:43, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) I hope it is ok to post this here, I've just reported Justin The Hero to AIV. @Doug Weller Knitsey (talk) 16:46, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
Yep, they're already blocked, and I blocked another sock they'd already created on their (proxy) IP. Doug, I've semi protected your talk for a week, tell me if you want that extended or shortened (or do it yourself, of course). Just looking to see if anywhere else needs protecting. Girth Summit (blether) 16:48, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for protecting. Doug Weller talk 16:51, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

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another Chuckfinley94 sock?

Hello, I'm not sure whether I should file a report for this at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Chuckfinley94. But a new account created today (Alex990099) showed up at an AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sam Mangel, an article which the socks have a COI with. Their first edit was to create their user page and the second edit was to !vote Keep in the AfD (they've since reverted their AfD vote). Thanks, Some1 (talk) 17:38, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Sorry for the slow response. It's obviously pretty fishy, but if all they've done is post a comment then self revert there's probably no action needed. Report if they reappear and start causing trouble. Girth Summit (blether) 13:57, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

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Thewikiuser1999

Your help is currently needed for Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thewikiuser1999. I am guessing you have CU logs for this SPI as you had done CU on this SPI in 2024. Thanks THEZDRX (User) | (Contact) 11:31, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Any checkuser has access to the CU logs from any case. The trouble with logged data is that it is not complete, and in most cases the older the data, the less relevant it is - IPs get reassigned, people move to different ISPs, move house, change jobs, etc. You'll need to wait until someone can look at it from a behavioural angle. Girth Summit (blether) 14:29, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

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LTA is back

Hello, LTA is back. They are continuing their POV edits. Could you please take a look at this SPI? Kajmer05 (talk) 21:29, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, it's late and I'm going to bed - someone will look at it in due course. Girth Summit (blether) 21:44, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

For the record (I wrote this just a second before the thread was closed)

"No, I do not see any irony here. I made this thread because I think TonyTheTiger's vote was retaliatory and obviously goes against the spirit of honest voting. I still think it does. How you deal with that is up to you. GeogSage giving his friend a "beer" was never ever an issue. Him running off to another page to comment on my "reaction" (and saying it's the least of what he thinks) is a very clear "F that guy" to me. You can interpret it another way, but I will not. And again, how the admins here choose to respond (if at all) is up to them. Block me, if you deem it necessary. I can only speak my mind and say my peace on this matter." 217.159.164.134 (talk) 22:55, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

Well, I'm sorry you interpret it that way. I don't know why you are so bothered about the original vote. Do you ever watch 'RfA' discussions, where people vote on whether or not somebody should become an admin? There are people who will vote oppose there not because they have any particular problem with the candidate, but because they are opposed to administrators in general, or even because they don't want to see an RfA go through unopposed. We don't block those people - we don't think they're very nice, but we don't block them, because they have a right to cast their vote however they choose, and if someone wants to make a pillock of themselves publicly then provided they're not causing disruption elsewhere, we are not the Don't Be A Pillock Police.
As for the beer on the talk page, I don't know why you think it has to be a 'fuck that guy'; why can't it be a 'never mind that guy, don't worry about it', or a 'yeah, he was over-reacting, you didn't do anything wrong so don't feel bad about it'? You can take it how you choose to, I suppose. And no, I don't see any reason why I would block anybody at this point. Girth Summit (blether) 23:12, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Can you please add this here as a very small linked addendum in your final reply on ANI? I did write it literally seconds before the close. My final ¢2. Other than that, I'll bow out. 217.159.164.134 (talk) 23:27, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
No, I don't want to add to a discussion that's been closed, and I don't see what good it would do. That discussion will disappear into the archive, and likely nobody will ever look at it again. Girth Summit (blether) 23:32, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Irrelevant but also so precious it can no longer be touched. Honestly, I think you are a nasty scumbag. As are the two other guys. Please block me from this website. And do it indefinitely. No two months nonsense. :) 217.159.164.134 (talk) 23:43, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
It's just a matter of form - adding to a closed discussion isn't entirely forbidden, but it's not the sort of thing one does unless there is a point to it. Now, what I can't really get my head around is someone who is so sensitive to perceived insults that they start a thread at ANI because someone else voted to cancel out their own vote, and complain about someone saying they over-reacted, but who is also willing to call other people nasty scumbags. I've been called worse, it doesn't bother me, but I really don't understand that mentality. Girth Summit (blether) 23:52, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Only responding in kind. I now see that almost all power users on this site are in cahoots (INB4 your retarded explanation about how that's not the case). Now block me (indefinitely). Let's get it over with. 217.159.164.134 (talk) 00:04, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
Erm... I had to look up what INB4 means. 'Retarded' is not a nice word to use, I'm not personally offended by it but I know that some people are, so I will use a synonym. Stupid explanation incoming: I've never interacted with either of those two editors before, as far as I can recall. I'm not sure I'd call either of them 'power users', they're just regular editors. I guess Tony the Tiger has a few advanced permissions and a lot of edits, but GeogSage not so much. So no, we're not in cahoots, but we've been around long enough to learn the lay of the land. I kind of suspect that you have too, no? This particular IP hasn't been editing for long, but new editors tend not to wash up on the shores of Wikipedia talk:Vital articles as their first port of call. How long have you been around?
We don't indefinitely block IPs. We sometimes block them for a few years, but since they tend to get reassigned, there's little point in indefinitely blocking them. You've been on this one for, what, three days? If I was going to block you, I'd probably make it a week - but I'm not going to block you for calling me a few mean names on my talk page. Someone else might. Girth Summit (blether) 00:14, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
Ah, I see that Acroterion has pressed the button. Any ideas who this is? Girth Summit (blether) 00:17, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
No, they don't seem familiar, just someone with a chip on their shoulder and a keyboard. Acroterion (talk) 00:37, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
I doubt this is their first rodeo, but I don't see them on that IP range in the past. Oh well. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 00:40, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

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The Barnstar of Good Humor
Thanks for helping diffuse the situation on ANI. I owe you a metaphorical beer as well. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 03:31, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. If only the drama had actually diffused, instead of migrating here, perhaps blocks wouldn't have been necessary... Girth Summit (blether) 03:33, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Hey Gerda - just realised that I didn't respond to this - how rude! Thanks for the reminder - how can it have been six years? Thanks for the precious memories. Girth Summit (blether) 23:33, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi Girth Summit, I was just wondering if you could let me know about something. You recently reverted an edit on pastirma that also took out a copyright problems template that I had added. Was that done on purpose? If so, that's totally fine with me, but after checking out the Earwig report, I'm just a little unsure whether it actually fixed all the concerns. Best, Squawk7700 (talk) 21:33, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi Squawk7700, I was reverting a sockpuppet. Looking a the history of the article, there has been a lot of reverting back and forth over the past month with numerous socks and IPs. If you still have concerns about the current text, please feel free to reinstate the template. Girth Summit (blether) 22:45, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

Francis Acea article

It appears you accidentally edited an old version of the article here when you corrected the educational institution information, undoing a lot of intermediate edits. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:09, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

Yes, this was an accident- I can only assume I had an old version of the article open when I clicked 'edit'. I'm on a cell phone at the moment, but will fix in an hour or so when in back in my hotel room (unless someone else has already done it). Girth Summit (blether) 01:04, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

Malaysian user

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JohnDavies9612&diff=prev&oldid=1313371362

(Removal suggests additional check) 93.143.172.227 (talk) 22:33, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

Argh, my eyes, a mobile diff!
Ahem, I've recovered now. I see nothing wrong with the removal - the issue was resolved, the reports have been deleted as misfiled (or closed, I haven't checked which, but they're no longer in the queue). What's the problem here? Girth Summit (blether) 22:47, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi, the IP is from Croatia. He has used various IPs to remove content about the Malaysia football league, clubs, players and some of them are from Europe. He has interfered with other people's work. You can see here ,. JohnDavies9612 (talk) 23:14, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
I mean, I can't disagree with an IP editor who removes the following sentences: The team will use Teck Hin-KR FC in the 2025/26 A2 Amateur League. A mutual agreement has been reached by the club owners with KR to compete and pursue success. Both parties are committed to ensuring the team is at the highest level in the football hierarchy, sourced to a Facebook page. I haven't looked into it, but it's almost certainly Copyvio, and even if it isn't, it's unencyclopedic marketing drivel, and it should have no place in any article. Girth Summit (blether) 02:45, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
All right, thanks. JohnDavies9612 (talk) 04:12, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amar_Rohidan
Please take a look after my grammar clearing, as again mentioned user shows blatant lack of understanding. 93.143.173.65 (talk) 05:23, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
Hello Girth Summit, you can see the IP Special:Contributions/93.143.172.227 is same with Special:Contributions/93.143.173.65. He has so many IPs. I have also warned him for NOT WRITING AN EDIT SUMMARY. That is against Wikipedia policy. JohnDavies9612 (talk) 06:01, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
Any responsible editor able to apply ban should help user John, his sight and mental state got affected. Even feels sad to read. Thanks in advance 93.143.173.65 (talk) 06:10, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
You are just an anonymous IP. This is because you are interfering with their edits. Every article has a creator. They are doing their editing. You need to read, understand and register Wikipedia:WikiProject Football, list your name on Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Malaysia task force. JohnDavies9612 (talk) 06:35, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
John, stop - no, nobody needs to register an account to edit here (except pages that are semi-protected, or in certain contentious topic areas). Nobody needs to join a WikiProject to edit articles - wikiprojects do not own articles. Yes, edit summaries are good practice - rather than 'warning' someone for not using them however, it might be more collaborative to just explain to them why they help? Girth Summit (blether) 10:37, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
All right. I just want to ask why the IP from the same person removed (BlackHoleRev7) painstaking work.. See here. Anyway thanks for your explanation. 👍🏻 JohnDavies9612 (talk) 11:03, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
Have you asked them why they made that edit? (As opposed to warning them not to?) Girth Summit (blether) 11:46, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi Sir/Madam, you can see he did a manual revert. I already explained that don't use [[ ]]. See here JohnDavies9612 (talk) 13:12, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
93.143.173.65, there is no need to make guesses about other users' mental states, it will just make them upset. See WP:NPA. Instead, you can just provide the necessary evidence (links, etc), and let the administrators decide what to do. 『π』BalaM314〘talk〙 10:58, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
You can see black talk page where we agreed to keep his format detail.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking
[[]] explained, he is stalking each of my edits out of desperation or ?!
if you can handle still, good luck. 93.143.173.65 (talk) 13:20, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

Opala300 and concerns regarding Romani pages

I wasn't sure how to go about this, but considering the user's past conduct and the fact they revert unfavorable messages on their talk page such as this message from you, in which you voice your own concerns, I decided to bring this to your attention.

User RomaniResearcher reported Opala300 to the Administrator's noticeboard already , and while I agree that RomaniResearcher's conduct wasn't appropriate (and their own edits questionable due to outdated sources), their concerns regarding Opala300's edits and refusal to discuss changes were valid and the matter should have been looked into. What I find particularly concerning are multiple page moves that are not only not discussed, but also marked as minor edits, which they were doing under EggplantSandwich already.

A lot of (if not all) Romani pages are a mess now, on account of both users, and due to the sheer mass of edits and content changed in such a short timespan, I'm not even sure where one would begin to fix any of it. While I hope RomaniResearcher will be open to changing their approach, I don't think Opala300 should be allowed to edit these pages any further, at least not without providing sources.

Thank you for your time Alexeji (talk) 20:02, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello,
The Romani pages are struggling at the moment with Opala300. He clusters around Albanian and Muslim Roma pages, which has allowed users to possibly track his multiple (several, in fact) accounts. He's been blocked for POV-pushing under multiple accounts and on Simple English Wikipedia. 8 days ago, I received this message from another Wikipedia user who wished to remain private:
"Hi RomaniResearcher,
I am sorry to see you struggling with confronting the POV pushing of Opala300. Opala300, based on public info, has been banned from Simple English Wikipedia for POV pushing in Romani articles:https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Opala300 Opala300 socked with the account Snape8382 (also banned, https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Snape8382) and IP addresses 188.28.223.246, 94.197.58.69 and 217.65.134.12 (under 3-month global lock) to keep pushing their POV there simultaneously. There is also suspicion that Opala300 is a sockpuppet of the (1) globally locked account Nalanidil (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Nalanidil) which did the same POV pushing in Romani articles (2) long-term abuser (LTA) known as "Demographic Vandal" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Demographics_vandal#Targeted_articles) which has been targeting Romani / Albanian articles. They all had a strong overlap with Opala300 in terms of their interest and behavioural pattern. I hope that these information can help you plan any actions you wish to take."
I believe Florian, another user on the Romani topic-articles, may be another account of his.
Concerning the pages, the previous information contained on the pages were incredibly inaccurate. Some, like myself, take seriously academic principles and a neutral standpoint. Everything I've written has been fact-checked by the original source material. Concerning the "old sources", they are not less authentic, in this case we shouldn't use Homer or Hesiod in discussion on Ancient Greek religion. In Romani Studies, much of the available ethnographic material is from older sources. For instance, nothing substantial has been written ethnographically on Scottish Travellers for over half a century except Stanley Robertson's unavailable article from 2004. Most of the available sources, such as Colin Clarke, Donald Kenrick and Thomas Acton are in the domain of social and racial policies (i.e sociology), not ethnography. This is why researchers (I've been doing this for over 10 years) use older source material. In additional, many of the citations are incorrect. For instance, the information concerning the strong north-south divide in the Romanichal community actually links to a 2013 report on Roma in the UK - which are completely different ethnic group[s]. Therefore, what I've written on the Romani pages is updated, reliable, fact-checked information. The sources have been cited correct and are available to view. In conclusion, I kindly say that it does not need "to be fixed", in fact, I fixed what was unreliable, incorrect and uncited. The actual source material, which is reflected in academia, is now manifested in the articles. I take academic principles very seriously and I'm not offended if you can prove me incorrect; please scrutinise the sources if you believe they are incorrect. I will be happy to change or discuss them. The reason I joined Wikipedia is because your information was creating utter confusion in the Romani community in other spaces online. As a researcher I had to do something about it. Saying this, if a user wishes to update the article, then I welcome this. Again, I'm not adverse to be proven wrong; I welcome scrutiny - it helps me as a researcher to correct my own mistakes. I stress, however, that unlike Opala300, I have never reverted another user's article (except Opala300's edits due to the problems discussed). RomaniResearcher (talk) 20:43, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi,
I forgot to add that Opala300 often removes cited information without discussion. For example, all available source material refers to Kirk Yetholm Tinkler's as "Kirk Yetholm Gypsies." I provided sources that confirmed this usage, and I was in the process of gathering more. However, Opala300 removed the information without explanation.
From what I’ve observed, he appears to have a limited understanding of British Gypsies and Travellers, yet does not engage in discussion about why he removes cited material. When asked to provide sources or evidence for his edits, none are given, and most inquiries go unanswered. At times, he seems to take on an "admin-like" role, but his rewrites often introduce inaccuracies, as they are not grounded in the cited material.
To avoid misrepresentation and erasure, I’ve had to include longer quotations from source material so the information cannot be easily altered or erased. This issue has already occurred on the Scottish Traveller page, where sourced and accurate information was removed, leaving the article factually incorrect and incorrect cited. The current version written by Opala300 no longer aligns with the cited sources, whereas the earlier material which I wrote did, as I was the original citer. Again, he is incapable of citing and checking source material. RomaniResearcher (talk) 21:00, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi both. @Alexeji: it sounds like this is something that would be best discussed at WP:ANI, rather than on my talkpage - that would get more eyes on the issue, and you might find some people willing to help with any clean up that is required. I appreciate that it's been raised there before, but if you can demonstrate with diffs that they have carried on as they were without paying heed to the warning, it is likely that stronger action would be taken to get them to stop. @RomaniResearcher: if you suspect sockpuppetry, please raise your concerns (with diffs) at WP:SPI. If you use Twinkle, that makes it very easy to create a properly formatted report, using the 'ARV' option from the Twinkle drop-down menu. Regarding your comments on the content and your approach to editing, I know very little indeed about the subject matter you're talking about, or the state of the scholarship on the subject. With that being said, you are describing yourself as a researcher. I just want to ensure that you are aware of our policies on WP:OR, and that you have read WP:SECONDARY. Please let me be clear that I have not reviewed your editing, and am not accusing you of having breached either of these - I just want to make sure that you are aware of this. Our content should be based on what the best and most up-to-date secondary sources have to say about a subject; primary and historic sources are not entirely forbidden (WP:PRIMARY), but editors should never use their own interpretation of those sources and should rely on secondary sources for any analysis. Where sources simply don't exist, we must remain silent. And to address the example that you raised, we would not use Homer or Hesiod in an article to support an assertion of fact regarding ancient Greek religion; we would rely on the work of modern scholars who interpret Homer or Hesiod. Hope that makes sense. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 21:32, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

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Thanks and a question

Thanks for reining me in the other day. I really appreciate you taking the time to do that.

Question: In the opening post of that discussion I pinged all the folks who were involved in the previous ANI discussions about this editor. The vibe I get is it would have been better to not, even though that's what was done previously. Am I reading that right, or was there some hidden value in doing this? Uhoj (talk) 00:42, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Not necessarily an easy question to answer - 'it depends'. I didn't read the whole discussion - how far back did you go with the previous ANI cases? Did you ping all the editors who commented in those discussions, or just a subset? And if the latter, how did you decide on the subset - was it just the people who filed the complaints? Just the people who close the discussions? Just the people who complained against the editor (and by extension, not any people who might have spoken in support of them)? Can you also point me towards whatever people have said that gave you the vibe that you shouldn't have done it? Girth Summit (blether) 13:47, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

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take a look regarding unsourced edits please 93.140.197.21 (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taichung_Rock_FC 93.140.197.21 (talk) 07:36, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
I'd suggest that you discuss the matter with the user in question before reaching out to admins - I can't see where you've done that. Girth Summit (blether) 14:10, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

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Sockpuppet accusations

I just noticed more sockpuppet accusations by JeanClaudeN1 that link me to even more accounts. I'll say this because I do find JeanClaudeN1's edits very POVish and it appears that other random editors in Poland do too. Apparently all of Poland is one big sockpuppet because Polish people get upset that an editor inserts a heavily German-centric POV on Poland related articles.

What I find concerning about JeanClaudeN1 is that their edit pattern resembles a single-purpose account or a paid-contributor. JeanClaudeN1's edits primarily focus on Germany and if JeanClaudeN1 edits in Poland related articles they only focus on German history there. Also, looking at JeanClaudeN1's edit history it is clear that they spend a lot of time editing EVERY DAY - going through articles in a very mechanical way, as if they had a list or something. Finally with all this sockpuppet accusations going around, I noticed that a lot of Poland related article that JeanClaudeN1 edited also over lap with Tino Cannst, as seen in the Editor Interaction Analyse.

Here is one good example, some small hole-in-a-wall village in Poland Słoszów. A while back Tino Cannst added a very one sided summary of the village's history "The town was colonized by Germans in the Middle Ages. Its German name Roms likely refers to the place Rommerz in Hesse." That's it, that's the history, just German stuff, and sure enough JeanClaudeN1 chasing all of Poland's sockpuppets reverted that text back after and IP deleted it. Could we check JeanClaudeN1 for possible sockpuppets and examine their edit patters, which as I mentioned before are very specific, same with Tino Cannst.

Also, by the way, Tino Cannst, only edits Poland related articles and exclusively focusing on German history in those places. Don't believe me, see for yourself , about as single purpose and niche topic area as you can get.

It seems that JeanClaudeN1 is trying to block everyone that disagrees with their POV push, perhaps it's their way of solving content disputes. PJK 1993 (talk) 22:29, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

PJK 1993 is already known for making false accusations. However, these latest ones are unparalleled in their absurdity. They appear to be the next stage in their personal campaign against me. I have absolutely nothing in common with User:Tino Cannst (see below for how the edit overlap happened). I'll not even comment on the other accusations given their lack of substance. The facts are as follows:
PJK 1993 has been engaging in disruptive editing and POV pushing for weeks, mostly within a contentious topic area. They have been blocked multiple times in a short period.
Recently, they started two separate discussions on different noticeboards (here and here). When neither discussion went in the direction they wanted, an IP address from Poland suddenly appeared and began trying to steer the discussions in PJK 1993’s preferred direction. The only edits made by this IP address are comments on those two noticeboard discussions. I therefore initiated a sockpuppet investigation.
Shortly thereafter, the associated IP range was blocked. Upon closer inspection, I noticed that dozens of disruptive edits had been made from this IP range in recent weeks (which is already apparent from the frequent edit summary tags such as “possible vandalism,” “reference removed,” “section blanked,” etc.). I reverted several of these edits per WP:BE.
After seeing the baseless accusations mentioned above, I took another close look to understand where the overlap with Tino Cannst came from. Here’s what I found: the blocked IP range appears to have been following this user and, as if working from a list, reverted many of their edits (see Editor Interaction Analyser) Since I had reverted some of the edits made by the blocked IP range, the overlap with both the IP range and Tino Cannst can be explained that way.
The fact that PJK 1993 is now complaining about me reverting these IP edits speaks volumes. It not only provides further evidence that they might be connected to these IP edits, but the false accusations above seem to mark the next stage in PJK 1993’s ongoing campaign against me personally. It is yet another strong indication of their battleground mentality, for which they have already been warned multiple times, e.g. here JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 00:45, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
JeanClaudeN1, PJK 1993 - I don't know why either of you is on my talk page - does this relate to a case I've handled in the past? Allegations of sockpuppetry can be dealt with at SPI; other types of abuse, including false accusations of bad faith, can be handled at ANI. Girth Summit (blether) 13:41, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment. I don’t know why PJK 1993 wrote that on your talk page. There’s no further action required from my end (the user has already been sanctioned) — I just didn’t want to leave this uncommented. JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 14:08, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, Girth Summit. Stupid question, maybe, but is this TBAN still in effect? It's still listed on the editing restrictions page. Asking you, well, because a)I don't know the exact details of how tbans work (and am happy to remain ignorant) and b). GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 05:25, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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How can the topic of @khashayar farzam be put up for creation by an extended user as the topic has now achieved notability?

Thank you so much. PNA43PNA (talk) 05:03, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

WP:FIRST gives some guidance on writing your first article. Girth Summit (blether) 11:55, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply.
The topic was previously put up for a creation block to be made by extended users only. Not sure if that's still the case. PNA43PNA (talk) 16:05, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

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Hello admin, once you had blocked an account named @GhoshThakur, his another sock @Neutralwikipedian was also blocked but now he has created two more accounts to do his povpush, i request you for a UC and to block these socks too. The socks are @Asyoukniwand @Johndmafia. 2409:40D0:1015:8F47:3D95:CE01:63BA:34D4 (talk) 06:39, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

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Hello Girth! Congratulations on your success in the ArbCom election!! Mz7 (talk) 18:56, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

Seconded. I’ve no idea what happened, but it sounds amazing. Seasider53 (talk) 19:21, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm an old admin who is still trying to get back in the swing of things, so apologies if there are better venues for this. I was responding to a request for page protection on National Iranian American Council due to suspected sockpuppeting, and I noticed that a previous contributor to this page, User:James Bertrand 8, had been blocked by you due to abusive editing (presumably sockpuppeting). However, I could find no WP:SPI page or other information, so I'm wondering if you might be able to look into this, especially the newer accounts that seem to all be agreeing with each other on the talk page. Thanks! RunningOnBrains(talk) 23:03, 6 December 2025 (UTC)

@Runningonbrains, when you get a request like that at RFPP, my uncharitable but realistic assumption is that it's someone who knows page protection will win them an edit war and is hoping that RFPP won't look as hard at the sock claims as SPI would. So if I were you, I'd decline those and direct the reporting editor to SPI. -- asilvering (talk) 04:16, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
Hey - I agree with asilvering on this. I'm afraid I can't immediately bring to mind what led me to make that block, but if someone suspects sockpuppetry they ought to make a report that we can invetigate, rather than just ask for protection of a particular page. Girth Summit (blether) 11:09, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

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Katietalk 16:32, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Just a reminder to email us per the above instructions at your earliest convenience. Thanks. :-) Katietalk 23:18, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
Hi Katie, thanks for the prod. I've sent the email; agreements already signed, and username already on the lest. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 11:06, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
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Congratulations! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:51, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda! Girth Summit (blether) 11:06, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
You are welcome! - I woke up to a a Bach cantata, GA by an editor's first review, and it was the first time that I was involved (a bit) in a pictured ITN blurb. More pics of buildings by him on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2025).

Administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

removed Spicy

Technical news

  • Starting on November 4, the IP addresses of logged-out editors are no longer being publicly displayed. Instead, they will have a temporary account associated with their edits.
  • Administrators will now find that Special:MergeHistory is now significantly more flexible about what it can merge. It can now merge sections taken from the middle of the history of the source (rather than only the start) and insert revisions anywhere in the history of the destination page (rather than only the start). T382958

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