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Patronymic names

Hello there. Regarding the inclusion of Albanian patronymic names in the lead/infobox, could someone please clarify which interpretation is correct in this discussion: Eni.Sukthi.Durrës^‎Albania 14:38, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

As a note, this is the edit in question. Nehme1499 (talk) 14:53, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

@Nehme1499: Partially yes, but if you look at the subsequent edits, the citizenship information sourced from the presidential decree was restored, while the patronymic name was left unchanged, which is why this specific point is being discussed here. Eni.Sukthi.Durrës^‎Albania 15:24, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

To summarise, it seems that in Albania people have middle names almost exclusively for civil/administrative records. With that being the case, should they be excluded from Albanian football players' full names/Wikipedia articles? EchetusXe 21:06, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

MOS:FULLNAME says, Many cultures have a tradition of not using the full name of a person in everyday reference, but the article should start with the complete version in most cases. I don't see a reason to override the MOS here. Wburrow (talk) 15:14, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

To summarise, it seems that in Albania people have middle names almost exclusively for civil/administrative records - isn't that the same in most countries? I mean....most British people have a middle name but it's basically only ever used on official documentation. If you met the current England captain and asked him who he was, I doubt he would reply "I'm Harry Edward Kane"...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:22, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

@Wburrow: @ChrisTheDude: I may not be fully understanding MOS:FULLNAME here, but how would this apply in cases such as Iván Balliu? His full Spanish name includes the maternal surname Campeny, and after receiving Albanian citizenship his name appeared as "Iván Salvador Balliu Campeny", incorporating both naming systems. Would all of those elements then need to be included in the lead and infobox? And how would similar cases such as Mërgim Mavraj be treated? Eni.Sukthi.Durrës^‎Albania 00:17, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

I'd use the most complete name that meets WP:V. Wburrow (talk) 14:55, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

I think I agree.

Btw, could someone take a look at Mërgim Mavraj? The article has long carried maintenance tags and a Stub-Class assessment, but it has been substantially expanded and improved recently and I think the tags and assessment still need updating? Thanks. Eni.Sukthi.Durrës^‎Albania 11:59, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

First international match in national team infobox

I was taking a look at Vietnam national football team, and I noticed that two matches are listed as the team's first: the first game as "South Vietnam" (1949), and the first as "Vietnam" (1983). Given that Vietnam inherited South Vietnam's record, wouldn't it make sense to just list the 1949 match as the first? This applies to all countries in similar situations. Nehme1499 (talk) 13:42, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

I think it's OK to include both in this situation. GiantSnowman 09:16, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

If we agree on including both, we should at lease decide on how to display it. I'm not sure the excessive use of <hr> is appropriate. Nehme1499 (talk) 13:35, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Sherriff of London Shield

FYI, there's an ongoing discussion about whether to include this competition on this page. I'm sure this has come up a few times before, but it would be good to get some more voices on this, as it's currently going round in circles. NapHit (talk) 16:28, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

It's already in the lede of that article as the precursor to the Community Shield. Given that we include the Fairs Cup alongside its successor UEFA Europa League in honours sections, I think it would be fine to include the Sheriff Shield alongside Charity/Community Shield honours. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:31, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

Indonesian Premier League results articles

Hey, y'all. I want to know if articles like 2011–12 Indonesian Premier League result and 2013 Indonesian Premier League fixture and result should remain or just be deleted (speedy or otherwise)? The articles aren't complete, they still have some results and all missing but also think this kind of article is usually only done on continental cup competitions if not they're covered in any participating club's season article. RollonLaurent (talk) 05:47, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

100% delete. Even if they had grammatically correct titles, weren't in reverse chronological order in violation of the MOS, and were actually complete, separate articles with this level of detail would not be needed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:52, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Agree, totally unnecessary content fork and entirely inappropriate. GiantSnowman 09:15, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Alright, I'll propose it then. RollonLaurent (talk) 11:09, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Vitinha (footballer, born February 2000)#Requested move 30 May 2026

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Vitinha (footballer, born February 2000)#Requested move 30 May 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. QalasQalas (talk) 22:23, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Interest in a football-themed DYK set?

Over at Wikipedia talk:Did you know, I suggested the possibility of running either a FIFA World Cup-themed or association football-themed set for the day of the 2026 FIFA World Cup final (19 July), and was wanting to see if there was any interest here in potentially helping out with it should the idea go through.

I've already got some article nominated for DYK that would work for it (eg. Brazil v France (1958 FIFA World Cup) and Rappresentativa OPBG), plus some others I'm currently working on as we speak (one of which is a 5x expansion of Rudi Glöckner), but I was hoping to see if some of you guys would be on board with helping with it. ShadowBallX (talk) 23:10, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

• I'm down. I have Template:Did you know nominations/Deportivo Toluca FC 6–0 Club América (2003) in queue and will probably nominate 2026 CONCACAF Champions Cup final to DYK if it doesn't make it to ITN (low chances so far). I would add Toluca's goalkeeper to the mix since I expanded it 5x but that may lean too specific on Toluca which we may want to avoid. Let me know how I can help. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 18:19, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Stadium names in foreign language ("Estadio" v "Stadium")?

Hello, new here to WikiProject Football. What is the policy on naming conventions for stadiums? We have a lot of Estadio [Insert Name] across dozens of articles about stadiums. Estadio is the Spanish word for Stadium. Should they be renamed to English?

Example: Estadio Nemesio Diez -> Nemesio Diez Stadium, among many others.

I don't think MOS:NONENGTITLE applies here hence why I'm asking. Thank you, Morogris (✉ • ✎) 18:16, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

What do English language sources call the stadium? Most of the links on that page are either in Spanish, or are dead and unarchived, so difficult to say without more information. Spike 'em (talk) 06:37, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

NONENGTITLE is for titles of works, such as books or films, not for the names of articles. WP:COMMONNAME is the applicable guideline here. I would point out tht there is precedent for non-translation, with grounds like Stade de France and many others in Category:Football venues in France. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:33, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, COMMONNAME applies. Whilst looking for examples, I found that Aztec Stadium didn't redirect to Estadio Azteca despite it being used all over the Internet, instead it redirected to a minor US stadium that was never actually known by that name ... gotta love Wikipedia sometimes. Black Kite (talk) 13:05, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Many sources in English use "Nemesio Diez Stadium" AP News ESPN Diario AS. I feel like this would apply to many stadiums in the Spanish-speaking world (with the exception of the most iconic ones like Estadio Azteca which many sources in English may refer to it as such). River Plate's stadium is also referred to in English as "Monumental Stadium" by several sources but I would presume getting consensus to change this to English would be difficult. AP News Unsure how to proceed but if it's okay with everyone I can request renames for the least controversial ones. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 03:48, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

I'd say the default should be to not translate, per say Stadio Olimpico, which lists the (rarely used) English translation in the first sentence. Shoehorning in a translated stadium name grates (to my ears). In the UK at least, my impression is that the norm is to use the native name. So I'd propose any changes done on a case-by-case basis, rather than wholesale. U003F^? 07:02, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Should be discussed case by case, definitely. That's why a WP:RM exists. A clear example of this is at Talk:Bernabéu (stadium). One single stadium might generate a ton of different views over the article name (I was the one who thought this name was wrong myself) and yet other people thought differently... BRDude⁷⁰ (talk) 12:54, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Expansion of the A-League Men#Requested move 2 June 2026

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Expansion of the A-League Men#Requested move 2 June 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Qwerty123M (talk) 07:14, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Can u help me I live in Madhya Pradesh India and I like to know are there any tournament happening in my region

I want to play tournament so i contacted u i also played for my school ~2026-32824-56 (talk) 17:01, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, this is the wrong place to ask that sort of question. Spike 'em (talk) 17:04, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Changes to the number of matches in World Cup qualification

Spuddie79 (talk · contribs) changed the number of matches in a bunch of World Cup qualification articles. It looks like vandalism to me since the numbers are different from what is in the continental confederations qualification articles.-- Jahalive (talk) 19:26, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

I have reverted and warned them. GiantSnowman 20:33, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

I don't understand why you've done this, the changes I made were to make the data consistent with the matches that make up the teams individual World Cup records (as per their wikipedia pages). If the individual confederation pages are different then I can look into that but it's more difficult now that you've removed all of the changes I made. ~2026-32833-67 (talk) 20:44, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

We don't understand why you've done this. Show your work and use edit summaries to avoid misunderstandings.--Jahalive (talk) 21:05, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Most Scottish FA profile links no longer working

Looks like the SFA have rebuilt/redesigned their website recently. The "SFA Profile" links for current players, and some historic ones, are still working, but the majority have been broken. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 19:19, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Please provide two or three examples - for each one, the name of the Wikipedia article; the broken link currently found in that article; and what it should be fixed to. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:34, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Here's a previous version of Archie Gray which links to SFA via Template:SFA player and his Scottish Football Association player ID (populated from his wikidata). The correct new URL, if any, isn't obvious at all from the SFA site. U003F^? 00:20, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I can't find anything on the website that might give information about individual players. Perhaps it's all been taken off; they wouldn't be the first website to do this. I don't find a search feature on the website either. Maybe you need to be registered and logged in in order to get full features.

What I was hoping for is that they had retained the player IDs but changed the URL path, from e.g. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/players/?pid=113074 to perhaps https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/profiles/?player-id=113074 and then we could amend the template accordingly, and for the non-template instances put in a request at WP:URLREQ. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:39, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

The profile links appear to be moving to https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/en/teams/mens-team/firstname-surname. They may still be in the process of moving some over as neither Archie nor Archibald Gray works in that format. Evidently still has teething errors though as Hughie Gallacher (https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/en/teams/mens-team/hugh-gallacher) is listed as having been born 82 years after his first Scotland appearance. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 09:47, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Fabio Pandolfi

Is this player notable enough yet for an article? He’s an 18-year old yet to make a first team appearance. Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 13:10, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Still WP:TOOSOON – not enough independent significant coverage to meet WP:SPORTCRIT, IMO. Looks like a good candidate for draftification since it seems likely that more SIGCOV will be forthcoming. Wburrow (talk) 19:08, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Agree it should be draftified. GiantSnowman 19:12, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Naming convention for two Mexican clubs - consensus needed

There are two Mexican clubs, Tigres UANL and Pumas UNAM, that are most commonly referred to as "Tigres" and "Pumas" as standalone respectively by most reliable sources. I brought this up to an editor, User:Mediocre Legacy, given that there are many articles across Wikipedia that refer to the teams simply as "UANL" or "UNAM" (which, again, is not how sources refer to them as standalone). In fact, these are the university abbreviations, see UANL and UNAM.

I've tried to be civil after +20 of my edits were reverted by them, and provided reliable sources showing in their talkpage that we should use "Tigres UANL" as the first mention followed by "Tigres", and "Pumas UNAM" followed by "Pumas", per WP:COMMONNAME. They keep making changes despite this and not sure how to proceed other than seeking consensus as the editor has not provided sources for their claims. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 19:12, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:2026–27 UEFA Champions League § Teams table format

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:2026–27 UEFA Champions League § Teams table format. SocietyBox (talk) 23:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Terry McDermott?

Fairly certain that the footballer in the far right of this photograph is Terry McDermott, taken from a preseason tournament between Ajax and Liverpool in 1977. If so, can someone crop the photograph to a decent size, as the image for McDermott's article? APM (talk) 01:18, 6 June 2026 (UTC)