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Template:Twistys Treats of 2006

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:57, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 November 11#Template:Twistys Treats of 2005. Non-notable award and two fail navigation for having only one link, plus no article exists for this to require a navbox(s). WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:06, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. This seems like a very non-notable magazine award. Gonnym (talk) 16:17, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - nothing notable here. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 07:35, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Uw-softerblock/preload

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Pppery (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:09, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While this is a preload and subst template, I couldn't find any usages of it in an insource search. It also has no incoming links and no documentation which might have added any insight to where it might be used. This might have been used somewhere in the past, but currently it seems it isn't. Gonnym (talk) 11:33, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:28, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment it was a template that I created evidently in 2020 and found some use in at the time, but I do have a question @Gonnym:. That search you linked...wouldn't the template never show up as it was substituted? Outside of my test just now which has it because it was used after the nomination, there is no reference to "preload" at all in the page text as it is essentially a shortcut for a rather prolifically used substituted template. I don't necessarily object to this deletion (and had forgotten the template existed), but just wanted to flag that the validation method for its use might be flawed unless I am misunderstanding something. --TheSandDoctor Talk 07:07, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @TheSandDoctor Usually when a template is a preload template it appears in other template code. See for example Template:RMassist/preload insource results. Since this template has no regular incoming links, no hidden usages found with an insource search, and no documentation, it seems that this template is hidden from everywhere and everyone which more than likely means it isn't used by anyone. I of course can't be 100% sure about this, which is why this TfD is open to present facts that disprove the above. Gonnym (talk) 13:32, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You are correct that I was probably the only user, but that does make sense why you came here with it. I wasn't aware of {{Preloaded template}} until just now so that explains why it wasn't tagged with that etc. either. I think Preload was just what I came up with as a name independently since it was preloading text when I was dropping the template at the time, not thinking that there was a wider thing actually called a preload. That makes things a little clearer for me, thank you. I am indifferent to its fate in this case. TheSandDoctor Talk 06:12, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Campaignbox Eighty Years' War

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The result of the discussion was Convert to navbox * Pppery * it has begun... 17:56, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose splitting Template:Campaignbox Eighty Years' War into...

Nominator's rationale: This sidebar is evidently overgrown; a problem which I myself substantially contributed to (7%) over the years. Splitting it after the Hundred Years' War model is in line with the policies, guidelines, conventions, precedents and suggestions I've gathered at User:Nederlandse Leeuw/Campaignboxes, more specifically the 1 war rule. The idea to split this infobox was also previously discussed at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 May 28#Template:Campaignbox Spanish colonial campaigns. Technically, discussion is not necessary, as I could split this whole sidebar myself WP:BOLDly as proposed, but the sheer number of pages involved and the fact that it was discussed previously makes me think it would be courteous to talk about it before I do anything. If nobody objects, I'll proceed anyway, but if there are objections, this is the time to discuss them. NLeeuw (talk) 19:44, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Note that the nl:Tien jaren (Tachtigjarige Oorlog) article already has a period-specific sidebar (zijbalk) listing only the battles occurring in the 1588—1598 period. (The Ten Years (Eighty Years' War) was a sort of "Mauritian phase"). NLeeuw (talk) 20:16, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @RobertJohnson35 and Benjitheijneb: you two engaged with me the most during the May 2025 TfDs on overgrown campaignboxes. I think you'll be interested in discussing this proposal as well (originally suggested by RobertJohnson35). NLeeuw (talk) 09:51, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep but convert to navbox. Similar reason with Zackmann08 above Simple non combat (talk) 10:31, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Kommunizm

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 09:58, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly links to the Russian Wikipedia. Outside band members - only one link is to an album on this Wikipedia. The rest are text or links to related articles that have too little connection. Fails navigation. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:35, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Fails basic needs of a navbox. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:50, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:R to diacritic/Explanation

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 December 20. Primefac (talk) 13:22, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Germany by state category navigation

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The result of the discussion was No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 17:55, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While this at first glance may seem like a good idea, in the end it will only lead to have all sibling categories from all parent categories listed at the category pages themselves as well, creating lots of unnecessary content at the top and pushing the actual category contents down.

As an example, this template is used on Category:Artists from Hamburg, and largely matches the subcats of Category:German artists by state. But there seems to be no reason why we couldn't have the same template for the other two parent cats, i.e. one with the 49 subcats of Category:German artists by populated place, and one with the 16 subcats of Category:People from Hamburg by occupation. On Category:Artists from Berlin you could have the same three, and a fourth one, with the parent Category:Arts in Berlin. The possibilities are endless, which is basically the issue. A category doesn't need boxes repeating the parent categories, that's what the parent categories are there for. Fram (talk) 16:52, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I wouldn't say it is pushing content much further than similar established templates such as {{navseasoncats}}. The basis of the template/module only works for a limited pre-defined set of search teams – it wouldn't be possible to imagine all populated places in Germany or all possible occupations to put in the base module. The possibilities are therefore not endless. The question is then whether to have templates that may repeat content from the parent category, such as this one and {{navseasoncats}}, or not, where I would say these two examples are helpful. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 17:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The possibilities are endless though (well, not endless, but as described), there is no requirement that these get autopopulated and they could just as well be hardcoded. And it seems weird that we have one for the other states, but not for e.g. the other occupations, as if one is more important than the other.
    As for pushing contents, perhaps I should have bundled this with worse actual examples, as e.g. shown on Category:Footballers from Puy-de-Dôme, where the actual categories are a screen down thanks to the nav template. Fram (talk) 17:34, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, the France-by-department template became too big in that aspect (browsing on phone) but for the ones that are couple of rows, I wouldn't say they are problematic. While I don't understand the argument that this may legitimate the creation of any bulky template as a limited number of entries is a key component, is usage with a Foo from Foo category different from others as “occupations” is a conflicting grouping: is Category:Artists from Hamburg a worse application than Category:Cabinets of Lower Saxony, Category:21st century in Hesse, or Category:Buildings and structures in Saarland by city? Kaffet i halsen (talk) 18:41, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, facilitates navigation between a limited number of interlinked categories without taking too much of space (some larger sibling templates may be discussed separately or become hidden for mobile like navboxes). Also helpful in category maintenance such as finding poorly categorised categories and stray categories. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 18:46, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    One problem is that it seems technically impossible at the moment to put these at the bottom of category pages (similar to where navboxes are placed in articles), even though that would seem a possible compromise (still there for maintenance and for who really wants it, but not taking the place of what the page is really about, the categories themselves). Fram (talk) 09:32, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I've added nomobile to this template/module and the one used in the category listed above, Category:Footballers from Puy-de-Dôme. In the latter case I've also made it collapsed. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 15:33, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I didn't find this helpful when I came across it. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:37, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, Compared to the corresponding templates with maps in French and Chinese Wikipedia, this template facilitates a limited number of interlinked categories without taking too much of space --Htmlzycq (talk) 13:04, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, I have found templates like this to be very helpful and time-saving when working with categories. These 16 states don't take up much space. I don't think this template's existence is suggesting we use this scheme in cases with very large numbers of members, but 16 is a very reasonable number. DB1729talk 12:49, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per nomination. As well-intended as this template is, this is not Commons. Over there it makes more sense, but if an issue exists like finding poor categorization of caategories or stray cats, it will be found. It's not as if CFD does not have a shortage of such renaming or merge nominations. But the cats that are part of this template's navigation scope can be found without it as well. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:14, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Most populous cities in Yunnan

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The result of the discussion was Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 03:36, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This template is being used at the bottom of the article as a navigational template but isn't designed to be so. Therefore, I'm not sure what purpose this template fulfills. Logoshimpo (talk) 03:49, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This template is part of a well-established family of dozens of templates (see, for example, Category:Largest cities of Asia templates) that have been created using {{Largest cities}}. Deleting just one of them makes no sense. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:49, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually part of Category:Largest cities of China templates. This should be considered a test case. Logoshimpo (talk) 04:15, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now per previous comments. Unless and until all {{Largest cities}} uses are nominated, no reason to remove just one. Logoshimpo I get you were using this as a test case, but that doesn't really work... If you think this one should go, you really need to get to the root of the issue. If you think this series of templates should be removed, then I would nominated {{Largest cities}} for TFD and see where that goes. At least then you would remove the issue of "why just this one" or "this is part of a series of templates" and focus on the actual problem of its use. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:22, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to the reply I gave to Frietjes, the other provinces have already been deleted. I'm not so sure nominating the provincial templates makes sense. Logoshimpo (talk) 03:01, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Television in Burundi

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:49, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Navbox with only two blue links, one of which is a redirect. Not enough to aid in navigation. ✗plicit 12:40, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Dating sims and visual novels

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:49, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This template apparently used to just be called "Anime games", but that is obviously now far larger than this. However, its current focus is no less random. The "Distribution" section contains a highly specific game label that doesn't seem notable, and "Dojin soft", which can encompass far more than just visual novels or dating sims. The "Genres" section also lists certain genres, like erotic game, that are more than just dating sim-specific. And regarding the "Engines", half of them aren't independently notable with NScripter's notability also being unclear. I think this should be put out to pasture as not very helpful. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:19, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Road data/masks/CHN/Shoudou

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:38, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused road data modules. Gonnym (talk) 11:33, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Replace

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:42, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused module. We have Template:Replace and we have the string module(s) to request any related change if needed. Gonnym (talk) 11:32, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:R from sort name

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:43, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused redirect-related module. Gonnym (talk) 11:30, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Legislationuk/new

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:43, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused "new" version. Gonnym (talk) 11:26, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Kashmir conflict detailed map

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:44, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused map module. Gonnym (talk) 11:24, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Folger Shakespeare/configuration

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by Pppery (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:04, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sub module. Module:Folger Shakespeare/config is used instead. Gonnym (talk) 11:17, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Folger Shakespeare/configuration and its associated /doc can both be {{db-g7}}'ed. It's left over from a previous refactoring that I just forgot to have speedied, and has been replaced by /config and /plays (as Gonnym noted). Xover (talk) 12:39, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Module:Eritrea Detailed Map

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:44, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused map module. Gonnym (talk) 11:16, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Date converter

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:44, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused date related module. Gonnym (talk) 11:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Cyprus problem detailed map

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:45, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused map module. Gonnym (talk) 11:06, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Contributing to Wikipedia/styles.css

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as T5 by Izno (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 18:08, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused after this edit. Gonnym (talk) 07:37, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Stagecoach West bus route 32

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused route template. Gonnym (talk) 07:30, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Shortcut mini/styles.css

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as T5 by Izno (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 18:08, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unused after this edit. Gonnym (talk) 07:29, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Saint Pierre and Miquelon political parties

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:51, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Only one link to a party outside main article. Not needed. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:15, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - not useful or needed. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 02:22, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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