Primefac

Emergency shutdown

FYI I have terminated your bot run with a post on User talk:PrimeBOT as it has absolutely blown up Category:Articles using duplicate arguments in template calls with over 1,500 pages at present. Seems you are missing a check for when |smallimage= is set to an HTML comment... Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 15:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

For an example (as I am starting to clean them up) please see Special:Permalink/1347050732... Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 16:02, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Oh my! You'd didn't have to do all that... I totally would let the bot take a run to clean it up. I suspect now that I'm down at S those will stop happening, but I'll add in a check for that particular phrase just in case and keep an eye on the cat to see if it starts going up again. Primefac (talk) 20:10, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Honestly, it was interfering with my ability to do my work because I need to constantly monitor that cat for new pages that I am possibly dumping in there because this is definitely an issue with JWB/AWB. When it is that full, I can't do that. So just made sense to clean it up myself. That being said...

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

--Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 20:13, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Pot, kettle. That's why I wanted to deal with the duplicate parameters first Primefac (talk) 20:58, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

I don't know WHAT you are talking about.... Facepalm Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 21:58, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Ok but seriously, I'm totally on board with your plan now to deal with the conflicting parameters first! Does look like your regex is still faulty per Special:Diff/1347128562/1347130005. Maybe just look for any comment with your regex? Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 22:00, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Just for the record, the trout was not for the typo... It was for 1,500+ on an unmonitored bot run...

Something I'll be keeping an eye on that might help ya: this petscan Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 22:11, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

I love that I'm not the only one who makes mistakes around here. The only people who don't are those who do nothing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Major General Charles Frank Bolden

It should be noted that Major General Bolden was inducted into the Unites States Veterans Hall of Fame in 2024.

2024 CEREMONY | Mysite ~2026-21399-60 (talk) 13:10, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Cool? Primefac (talk) 21:15, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Infobox errors / question

Hello there! In PrimeBOT's recent parameter cleanup, I'm seeing errors in one specific pattern. It always happens when an original parameter has a weird line break in the middle of a link, like this, at Neptali Gonzales:

| office7             = [[Regular Batasang Pambansa|Mambabatas Pambansa (Assemblyman)]] from [[Legislative district of San Juan–Mandaluyong|
San Juan–Mandaluyong]]

The parameter cleanup trims it to the part before the line break, resulting in this:

| office7      = [[Regular Batasang Pambansa|Mambabatas Pambansa (Assemblyman)]] from [[Legislative district of San Juan–Mandaluyong

Those missing end brackets wreck the infobox.

I've seen this same pattern many times over the past few days. This is very far out of my area of expertise, so I don't know if there's a way to prevent it. I suspect there isn't, but wanted to do my due diligence in reporting it. The error is very easy for me to spot and fix, so no worries. Thank you! :) Jessicapierce (talk) 16:16, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

This is unfortunately one of those GIGO things that I just haven't ever found a fix for, because none of the AWB scripts/tools I'm using assume that a wikilink will be split across multiple lines. That, and it's a fairly rare bug so usually by the time someone points it out to me, the run is usually over. If you keep seeing it pop up in a huge number of places I'll see about actually putting something together. Primefac (talk) 21:42, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply - that's kind of what I figured. No worries, I'm definitely not seeing a huge number of these errors, especially as a percentage of the overall number of primebot edits. They're quick to fix (and make me feel useful). Cheers Jessicapierce (talk) 22:57, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Regex typo?

Something went wrong with Special:Diff/1303616146/1348415854. Introduced |p= when removing the |residence= param. Tiny thing but just wanted you to be aware in case it is a larger issue... Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 15:19, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm going to guess that WikiFunctions.Tools.RemoveTemplateParameter cannot handle a named reference that uses multiple pipes and and = in the name. In other words, it looks like it saw <ref name="harvp|Lives|1965|p= 506"> and thought that the |p= was part of a new parameter instead of part of the ref. Not something I can really do anything about, but I'll mention it over at WT:AWB just in case someone has an idea. This could just be such a random case of GIGO that no one even thought to code it in (similar to the "hard return in a wikilink" issue mentioned above). Primefac (talk) 15:27, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Gotcha! Just wanted to make sure it wasn't another case of the jr/sr error... Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 15:32, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

It's probably related... thanks for reminding me. Primefac (talk) 15:32, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Of course! Keep up the great work though and thanks. Happy Sunday. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 15:33, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Medal templates

per this tfd, sees like there are more in Category:Medal icon templates which could be nominated for TfD as well? Frietjes (talk) 17:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

Oh my, thank you for that... I didn't even think to check the container category for similar templates; I was just looking at the three-letter ones. Thanks! Primefac (talk) 22:50, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

Revdel?

Should this be revdeleted? Unclear if promotion or personal, but without revdel the edit summary will remain visible in page history. Gamapamani (talk) 08:47, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

Yes, but next time please email me or the Oversight Team. Primefac (talk) 11:03, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I would have if it was clearer that this was personal information and not some sort of a promotion attempt (like if it was posted on a bio instead of a business communication article). Just having a number with nothing to tie it to seemed questionable in terms of needing oversight and potential risk of streisanding looked very low in this case. TBH the probability of getting chewed out for wasting your time seemed significantly higher. :) Gamapamani (talk) 10:42, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Oh, I wasn't chewing you out (and I never will!), I always appreciate when people ask about things that might need suppression (even if they're borderline). I requested private communication in the future because for the two hours between when you posted and when I replied, a larger number of people than would normally have seen that diff would have been given a link to that information (via my talk page watchers). Now they're all lovely people but it's more a matter of principle than anything in that regard. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 11:01, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Help at Commons

Hi Primefac, hope you're well. At WP:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard/Archive_50#Desysop request (Dank), you asked me to let you know if I need any advanced permissions. I'm now back on the English Wikipedia, writing and reviewing at WP:FLC, mostly ... and to make it work, I need IP block exemption on Commons so I can upload images. (I already have WP:IPBE on en.wp.) Can you help, or hook me up with someone who can help? - Dank (push to talk) 14:05, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Commons IPBE are dealt with at commons:Commons:IP block exemption (and on the off chance you need it, GIPBE is at meta:Global IP block exemptions). Primefac (talk) 20:26, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Removing my editing from nations at the Olympics

Hey there, guess what? If you continue canceling my editing I will make sure to block you from my existence, because it's now personal and I guess all the editors on Wikipedia hate me now. I blame everyone of you for messing with my editings. I guess maybe I don't really belong here, or maybe you know something that I don't, but it doesn't matter because it's been done and I can't continue this anymore! If you stop messing with my editings then I will be calm. Mkess300 (talk) 13:32, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi, we seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot. As I said at your talk page (and on the WT:OLY discussion) your edits to the infobox were breaking things; I am mainly trying to fix that issue. It's nothing personal. You're more than welcome to continue editing and improving Wikipedia, but if someone tells you that something you're doing isn't right (or that you should get consensus) please consider joining in the conversation. Primefac (talk) 13:35, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

What about removing the timeline tables? I've seen you done it in India and Bangladesh, and Pakistan maybe Mkess300 (talk) 13:38, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Some are useful, some are not. If there are specific tables that you think should be included that have been removed, discuss the matter on the article's talk page; don't just edit war to keep adding it in. Primefac (talk) 13:40, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

But if I try to prove it, it's been canceled anyway. Mkess300 (talk) 13:43, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "prove it", but I don't see any talk page discussions that you have started. If you think that those tables are useful, start a discussion and get a consensus to do so. Primefac (talk) 13:46, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Teach me how to do it because so far I've been struggling with it. Mkess300 (talk) 13:49, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Well, let's take a page I saw which had multiple people remove the table, Bangladesh at the Olympics. If you want to make the argument that the table should be included, go to Talk:Bangladesh at the Olympics and start a new discussion. I do note in one of your edit summaries you said This table is relevant because Bangladesh was a part of Pakistan before gaining independence, and before that these countries were a part of British India -- use that as your discussion starter, and see where things go from there. If no one participates after a day or two, consider posting a short note at WT:OLY using {{Please see}} to point people in the direction of the discussion. Primefac (talk) 13:56, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Ok, I will try, thank you, and sorry for letting my nerves out towards you Mkess300 (talk) 14:04, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

No worries, I certainly know how frustrating editing can be sometimes. Primefac (talk) 14:07, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Dup args

FYI looks like your latest bot run had an issue: Category:Articles using duplicate arguments in template calls (17). Not entirely sure what went wrong so I'm not sure how to fix... Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 15:54, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

An example is this edit on 2011 Women's European Volleyball League. The bot changed the report parm from 12 to 11 OK. But it removed the total parm (old parm 11) for some legs but not others. Davemck (talk) 16:15, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, regex fail, wasn't expecting any of the params to have {{nowrap}} used... And I ran trials on about 100 pages (out of 400) before I kicked it over to automatic... Primefac (talk) 19:32, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

These things happen... Do you mind fixing pretty please? Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 19:40, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

Working on it. Primefac (talk) 19:40, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

🙇 thanks! Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 19:41, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

Recent template moves

Recently you moved...a lot (all?) of the ship-prefix based templates with the comment "expand name for clarity". Very few of these of these are spelled out in common use, and they will never be spelled out in their useage on Wikipedia. I would like to ask that you revert these moves (a few have, but then I saw the full scope of the problem) and if you still believe they should be fully spelled out to open a full discussion at WP:TFD. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:27, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

This is not about what will be used most frequently (which is why template redirects exist in the first place) but rather what someone will be most likely to understand/recognise if they are looking for something specific (or even just someone looking a similar template to one they've used before). "Template:Ecuadorian Navy Ship" is a lot more clear than "Template:BAE", and some acronyms such as ARC, HS, or SMS have multiple meanings. This is also why our template content guideline says similar. If you still think that this is somehow inappropriate or "wrong" I will start the necessary discussion. Primefac (talk) 08:39, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

Recovery of code of deleted template

Hi Primefac. I see you "09:53, 9 January 2026 Primefac deleted pageTemplate:Kivu conflict detailed map (Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2026 January 1#Template:Kivu conflict detailed map)." Is there a way you could give me the code of the template? I might be able to revive the map by adapting the code into a module that would revive the template... Tradedia^talk 17:46, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

Restored and moved to User:Tradedia/Kivu conflict detailed map. Primefac (talk) 08:48, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

Request access to WP:AFCH

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants#User:Minna Sora no Shita

I was a reviewer before, but dropped due to inactivity, so I am requesting a reactivation of Articles for Creation reviewer status. --みんな空の下 (トーク) 19:54, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Cool, welcome back. Primefac (talk) 22:33, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

I'm not listed in active reviewers list though at the moment, so I can't use the AFCH script... --みんな空の下 (トーク) 23:26, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Correct. I usually go through AFCP on Sundays. Primefac (talk) 23:42, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I'll check back by then (or Monday). --みんな空の下 (トーク) 02:52, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:30, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

Request for template protection: Template:WikiProject Film topicon

Hello. I recently created Template:WikiProject Film topicon, a small user page top icon for WikiProject Film participants.

Since this is a template intended for transclusion on user pages, I wanted to ask whether template protection or another appropriate protection level would be suitable. The template is new, so there may not yet be a history of disruption, but I am hoping to prevent accidental or disruptive changes once it begins being used by WP:FILM/P.

Template link: Template:WikiProject Film topicon

If this request should instead be made at WP:RFPP, please let me know or feel free to decline this request. Thank you. Umais🗣 06:13, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

New templates are automatically protected by a bot once they reach a certain transclusion count. I'm not sure I see why it would be pre-emtively protected before that time. Primefac (talk) 08:50, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

Noted! thank you. Umais🗣 16:33, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

Revdel?

When you have a moment, can you REVDEL Special:Diff/1346319449/1354591851 for revealing PII? Not sure this is a personal cell number but certainly zero encyclopedic value. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 16:40, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Sorted, thanks. Primefac (talk) 19:16, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Much appreciated! Happy Sunday. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 20:10, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

AFC request

Hey, @Primefac. I recently added a request for AfC rights on the page, but I soon realised I don't have the required edit count in the mainspace. When you get a chance could you quickly tag it as not done? rfqii ^talk 23:16, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

Oh, I saw your self-retraction and called it a day. If you really want me to tag it I can, but there aren't any automated processes involved at AFCP so it's not like it must be tagged. Primefac (talk) 23:19, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

OK. Sorry to disturb you. :) rfqii ^talk 23:25, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

Request for revision-deletion

Hey Primefac! I think there are multiple edits at Voyager 2 (specifically those from 00:10 UTC and 01:38 UTC, 17 May 2026) that should be revision-deleted. Can you help with that? Renerpho (talk) 00:25, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

Sorted, thanks. Primefac (talk) 01:29, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, Primefac. Could you handle the edits in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bubble_Marin11, too, if that hasn't happened yet by the time to come back? Renerpho (talk) 08:21, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

Sure thing. Primefac (talk) 09:24, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

More at Special:Contributions/Bubble Marinj, Special:Contributions/Bubble Marink, Special:Contributions/Bubble Marinm, Special:Contributions/Bubble Marinn, and Special:Contributions/Bubble Marin12. I'm sorry, if there's a better place to report these (or to prevent them from creating new accounts in the first place), let me know. Renerpho (talk) 13:31, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Iqosaynv and Special:Contributions/Fiavi3211 belong in that list, too. Renerpho (talk) 13:48, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

Most seem to be blocked, so hopefully someone with CU has been locking them down. Not really much else to do if they're IP-hopping though (other than to keep playing whack-a-mole). Primefac (talk) 23:50, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for the help! Renerpho (talk) 07:14, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

@Primefac: Can you deal with Special:Contributions/Bubble Marin17 please? Renerpho (talk) 23:09, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

Sure thing. Primefac (talk) 10:12, 21 May 2026 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Bubble Marin19. One more. Renerpho (talk) 17:47, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

K. Primefac (talk) 17:50, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

New run

Category:Pages using infobox person with deprecated parameters (0) seems pretty well populated. If/when you have time for a PrimeBOT run that'd be awesome! One thing to watch out for is the usages of |status= on pages such as {{Infobox criminal}} or {{Infobox astronaut}}. That specific param may need to manually fixed? Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 02:18, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

I've been running it on and off all week. Primefac (talk) 09:37, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

Facepalm sorry! Thanks! Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 16:28, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

Space-related articles

Hi, I have noticed on my watchlist that you'd revdeld disruptive material. I think you were meant to revdel the edit summaries like with previous admin actions as I can see edit summaries have been removed recently as part of a simple pattern I've discovered, e.g. on the page history of Io (moon). Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:45, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

Whoops, thanks. I always muck that up because the RD options on the contributions page is in a different order from on the Special:RD page. Primefac (talk) 18:48, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

WP:BAG membership

In an effort to help out with some of these bot runs, I'm considering throwing my hat in the ring to join the WP:BAG. I previously tried back in December of 2018 but screwed up the process so it was basically a procedural denial with User:Xaosflux closing as consensus not reached. Do you have any thoughts on my trying again? Worth my time? Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 23:13, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

It wouldn't hurt us to have more BAG members... I would put your odds at better than 50%, so I guess it can't hurt to try. Primefac (talk) 12:23, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	I was visiting Meta and was reminded of the days where {{clickable button 2}} was a separate template from {{clickable button}}. I had gotten so used to our way of doing things—and I am incredibly grateful for all you did to make the merge happen :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:48, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

Aww, thanks! Always happy to help out where I can. Primefac (talk) 21:36, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

Question about AfC

Last week, you removed me from the list of AfC reviewers, but I'm not sure why. Can you please clarify why. Thanks. PeriodicEditor (talk) 06:36, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

As given in the edit summary of Special:Diff/1355877721, I was removing NPR folk. Primefac (talk) 17:54, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't notice that. PeriodicEditor (talk) 04:40, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

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Mass TfD related

I noticed your bot request. User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD has a TfD option. I've only used it for CfD and I have no idea if it can handle the amount listed. Gonnym (talk) 21:26, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Huh... from the documentation it looks like it will do TFD, might be worth checking with Qwerfjkl just to verify. I totally didn't know this existed, thanks. Primefac (talk) 21:28, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure what bot request Gonnym is referring to, but yes, the script should (theoretically) work for any number of pages. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:45, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval#PrimeBOT 50. Gonnym (talk) 07:54, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

FYI

Seems to be a typo in your regex for the current PrimeBOT run... Special:Diff/1345955757/1357491775 |otherpolitical_party= is not a valid parameter... Should just be |other_party=. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 23:51, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Also sorry for not explaining in my emergency stop post. Wanted to stop it ASAP. Intended to explain more here. Wasn't sure if you were online at present. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 23:52, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Order of operations fail, with 40 wrappers of infobox person I'm down to the low-tech version of find/replace without all of the other fancy things, so a search for "party" was matching "otherparty". My bad. Primefac (talk) 23:54, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

All good! To be clear, I've done the same thing before. Just wanted to stop the run as quickly as possible to limit the clean up. Keep up the good work. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 23:55, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

PrimeBOT question

Heya, quick question for you. When you're doing parameter replacements with PrimeBOT, do you use the AWB parameter replacement tool, or do you use a custom regex? I'm wondering because I'm seeing some incidents in my bot trial run (1, 2, and 3) of AWB replacing a a parameter inside a nested parameter (in example 3 above, {{{location}}} is being replaced with {{{hq_location}}} inside of {{Cite magazine}} in addition to {{Infobox company}}. Do you have any recommendations on how to prevent this moving forward? Thanks! phuzion (talk) 16:32, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Just looked around, and you're probably using your own infobox code! I think I'll use that moving forward, since it seems to be quite effective! phuzion (talk) 18:58, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

I using AWB's parameter replacement/removal tools (see L2691 and L2713) but I'm calling it directly from a custom module (specifically templateCall = WikiFunctions.Tools.RemoveTemplateParameter(templateCall, param, false)) Hope that helps! Primefac (talk) 20:21, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Sinfonia

Hello. I saw the back and forth as a result of my edit to update the section on education to reflect current policies. I apologize for the confusion, it was not intentional, although my lack of a source was as the document you are looking for is not able to be linked.

I see that you do identify as a member of the Fraternity and could not find information on this. There have been several communications in the members-only website regarding this over the past almost two years. The resource in question is available for members only and, although the name and program length is common knowledge, members-only items are not to be shared or otherwise linked, certainly not on public spaces such as Wikipedia. I would encourage you to reach out to brothers to discuss this and perhaps find a solution to the reference issue, as you have more experience on this website. Cyfonia (talk) 23:20, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Huh... found it, though in a menu that I didn't think was actually a menu. If there is no reliable source (which I would argue, there is none) then we need to craft wording that is still true but does not give anything incorrect. I'll think about how best to do this, but simply leaving off the timeframe and the name of the program (which is somewhat irrelevant anyway) would probably work. And for what it's worth, being this vague about something is probably not what was intended; you could have told me the doc was on the MyResources tab without breaking any great taboo. Primefac (talk) 00:00, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm glad you were able to find it. How I choose to discuss privileged information on a public forum is how I choose to; thank you for your condescending input. Again, I would still recommend contacting a current officer for questions as the document with the timeline and policy laid out is only available to officers (separate from the one in MyResources). I would also argue that the name is important as Etudes is the required, official program of the Fraternity. A lack of specificity by simply putting "member education program" is misleading by omission. Happy to have helped! Cyfonia (talk) 00:19, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Wasn't trying to be condescending (tone is very hard to read through text), I was just mildly annoyed at how long it took me to find it (clearly I didn't the first two times) and would have appreciated a pointer since we're all in this together. Primefac (talk) 00:21, 5 June 2026 (UTC)