Talk:Neo-feudalism

Comment 1

On the page it says: An early example critical of the Left is the essay "Neo-Feudalism" by John Kenneth Galbraith, published in 1961.[2]

But the citation does not lead to the article "Neo-Feudalism". The cited article [2] refers to Galbraith's "The affluent society", but this book mentions neither feudalism nor neo-feudalism, as far as I can see.

I suggest to either add appropriate references or delete the reference to Galbraith. As it stands, there is no substantial connection between Galbraith and neo-feudalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:2902:3700:D0AC:696:176:12E7 (talk) 18:47, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Are neo-feudalism and techno-feudalism the same thing

A lot of recent text has been added to the article talking about techno-feudalism. But the article dates to the 2000s and deals with neo-feudalism. Are the two the same or similar things? If they are the same or similar, then techno-feudalism should be mentioned in the lede. If they are different, then the technofeudalism text should be moved to its own article or a separate section in this one. Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 09:39, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Haywood

I added a sourced paragraph about Charles Haywood wanting the United States to become feudal in the future. It was reverted by another editor without explanation. I’d say Haywood is notable enough to mention here, and probably also notable enough for his own article as well. He has close ties to the Claremont Institute, a popular podcast, lots of money from his own business ventures, and has been platformed by Tucker Carlson among others. He’s certainly within the mainstream of what passes for American “conservative” discourse these days (I use that term in scare quotes because, by their own admission, American conservatives are not trying to “conserve” anything but just want to tear the whole system down, a la Timothy McVeigh). 2604:2D80:6984:3800:0:0:0:6466 (talk) 18:18, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Comment 2

",which impose by force and influence,"

should be

"that impose, by force and influence,"

for the sake of readability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redward1958 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Michel Luc Bellemare was not original source of term, but he is the original source of the term "Techno-Capitalist-Feudalism"

The assertion Michel Luc Bellemare coined the term Techo-feudalism is incorrect. My research reveals the Australian author and academic Dr Brentley Frazer first coined the term, though without the hyphen (technofeudalism) in 2014 in a review of the dystopian novel Zanesville by American Author Kris Saknussem https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20060307062840/http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/21323/20060304-0000/www.retortmagazine.com/06/id_02.06_iview_saknussemm.htm and again in an academic paper in 2017 https://aawp.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Frazer_AAWP_2016_aboriginal-to-nowhere-RF.pdf Ed Rembrandt (talk) 00:30, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Michel Luc Bellemare never claimed to have coined the term "techno-feudalism", Bellemare only claimed to have coined the term "Techno-Capitalist-Feudalism", which is correct and accurate. The contributor above did not fully comprehend the subtlety of the term: "Techno-Capitalist-Feudalism". In the sense that "Techno-Capitalist-Feudalism" is quite different from "Techno-Feudalism".

Michel Luc Bellemare

The sections have been re-written to comply with Wikipedia in 2025.

The sections relating to Bellemare are bloated, biased and potentially self-promotion. Suggest editing these into concise summaries to improve the readability and trustworthiness of this important page.

Also, why is this talk page such a mess? Can anyone help tidy it up?SycamoreWood (talk) 02:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

If there are not secondary sources added to support the weight of bellemare then I will remove it in the next few days Czarking0 (talk) 06:19, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

The Bellemare sections are now in compliance. Do not remove! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avantgarde1111 (talk • contribs) 12:31, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

I think given the state of the talk page Luc Bellemere content needs secondary sourcing. Czarking0 (talk) 14:03, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Why exactly are you removing valid information concerning Michel Luc Bellemare. And don't say it is because it isn't sourced enough. Because, there are plenty of other entries on Wikipedia with weaker sources. So why? Avantgarde1111 (talk) 18:38, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

The quantity is the the issue here. It is the nature of the sources being primary and blogs. Also I wanted to ensure you saw my talk page message? FYI you can view my contributions to wikipedia by clicking on my user name and then clicking "Tools" and "User Contributions" if you send some time looking through there you will see I remove a lot of content from wikipedia. Czarking0 (talk) 01:46, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Cédric Durand and others

Cédric Durand, Technoféodalisme. Critique de l’économie numérique, Paris: La Découverte, 2020

There is a French article about Cédric Durand: his book was published in 2020 which makes him a contender for the origin of the term. Also the redirect from Technofeudalism to Varoufakis has to be changed.62.73.72.111 (talk) 20:15, 25 October 2025 (UTC) Varoufakis acknowledges Durand's contribution but claims in his book that he has been toying with the concept since 2018.

Jean-Max Noyer used the term in French in 1994 and noted this later in 2002: Noyer, J. M. (1994). Tourments européens, Études internationales, 25(2), 295-312; Noyer, J. M. (2002), La guerre numérique au cœur de la stratégie, Les Cahiers du numérique, 3(1), 13-42 (open access, both).62.73.72.111 (talk) 10:00, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

Possible OR by temp account

It appears a temp account took a big swing at revising this article. I don't have the sources on hand and I'm not an expert, but it seems like they might have dipped into original research. Snowman304|talk 02:19, 30 April 2026 (UTC)