Talk:Miriam Shomer Zunser

Latest comment: 5 months ago by Peaceray in topic The Master of Thornfield

The Master of Thornfield

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@Peaceray

Bro you have got to be fucking kidding me, requiring a "reliable source" for correcting the spelling of The Master of Thronfield to The Master of Thornfield. You could go read Jane Eyre and see if you think Miriam and Rose knew what they were basing their play on, or you could bloody google it yourself. Just this once I'll do your goddamn homework for you:

Shall I go on?

Meanwhile, the other questions people ask, according to Google, are "What does Thornfield Hall symbolize in Jane Eyre?" "Who burned down Thornfield Hall?" "What happens to Jane at Thornfield?" "Is Thornfield Hall a real place?" But of course if I search for "Miriam Shomer Zunser the Master of Thronfield," I immediately get results for . . . "Miriam Shomer Zunser the Master of Thornfield." Because even a search engine is smart enough to recognize and correct a fucking typo when it sees one and not require a doctoral dissertation on why a thing should be spelled which way According To Some Petty Micromanaging Wikipedia Jackhole before going forward.

Jesus Christ. ~2026-52551-1 (talk) 19:41, 25 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

@~2026-52551-1: The archives.nypl.org/mss/3424 citation states The master of Thronfield; a play in 4 acts, built on the story of Jane Eyre.
Have you added a citation to correct this on the article itself? If not, please rectify the situation rather than reprimanding someone who reverted based on the existing citation. Please do so before someone else reverts the correction. We operate by verification from reliable sources in the article, not the talk page.
I also recommend that you have a look at WP:AGF. Peaceray (talk) 21:39, 25 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I would have called it a good faith assumption to assume that the person who wrote the citation at archives.nypl.org intended to type "Thornfield" like every other person who has ever heard of Jane Eyre and named the play accordingly, rather than citing to the single source in the wide world that has a typo in it and perpetuating the error for who knows how long—just as I assumed in good faith that when you said "If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite a reliable source, discuss it on the article's talk page, or" (emphasis added) you were sincere in offering these as discrete options. That'll teach me, I guess. ~2026-52551-1 (talk) 13:16, 26 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@~2026-52551-1: While I have read (and listened to) hundreds of novels including Emily Brontë's Wuthering Heights & certainly have heard of Charlotte Brontë's Jane Eyre, you cannot assume that I, or any other reader, would be familiar with Thornfield. If you encounter a misspelling that may not be obvious to everyone even though it is obvious to you, & there is a citation, I suggest you check that in the future to determine whether the misspelling came from the source or the editor.
Regarding the warning that you received, I use the semi-automated Twinkle tool to place warnings like {{uw-error1}}. Since I make check hundreds of other's edits a day, & make over a thousand edits a month, I am not going do a tailored response for every edit that I revert. As it is, I think that the canned {{uw-error1}} seems a decent to a situation in which a new editor failed to check or correct the existing citation.
I commend you for educating me on the difference between Thornfield & Thronfield. I hope that I have educated you on what sometimes needs to be done when correcting a mistake.

Доверяй, но проверяй [Trust, but verify]

Russian Proverb

Peaceray (talk) 00:05, 27 January 2026 (UTC)Reply