Talk:List of video games listed among the best

List of games with most sources?

Hey, I was just wondering if there's a list of games organized by how many sources they have. I know this article used to have that, but that was a long time ago. Maybe there can be an updated version or something?

Also, I don't know where else to put this, but I'm the guy that added the Creator column to the list way back in 2017. Don't believe anyone else, but I had nothing else to do when I was at the library one day and had time to kill. Dunno if I should be expecting a check since that was on a public IP address... Draper Doodah (talk) 13:03, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

Another editor created such a list here. Phediuk (talk) 17:24, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

I have about 100-110 different lists on hand right now that we could use to turn into a comprehensive article if you want.

Some ideas would be

- Lists must be ranked articles in order, not unranked lists of different games

- Games are listed based on how many times they appear #1 or #2 on such lists

- The sources for the articles are listed beneath or maybe in a table under sources that highlights every article placing each game in first as the greatest game of all time or second place

- A separate table for audience rankings amongst the public or folding such audience polls into the main table, public voted rankings especially for a interactive medium such as video games really shouldn't be ignored and it was common for magazines and websites to host such polling. Never17 (talk) 04:42, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

Should pages of games on this list link to this page?

This isn't directly about this page, but I've wondered about this since it seems to be standard (typically done in the intro paragraph) but not always done. I also couldn't find anything in the archives discussing this.

For example, these articles have a link to this article with text like "one of the greatest games of all time":

Halo: Combat Evolved, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, Final Fantasy VII, and Metroid Prime

However, these don't (not exhaustive):

The Oregon Trail (1971 video game), F-Zero GX, and Horizon Zero Dawn (this seems to be a new addition so maybe word hasn't gotten around)

Should we make the practice done in the former examples standard? Should it be all games or should it be games that meet a number threshold for how many lists it's on? Or based on notability? Maybe have "influential" in the text be for 10+ lists? I'm just spitballing but maybe something worth considering. ThePoggingEditor (talk) 17:41, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

They can link here, and often do, but they are not required to do so. This practice was recently discussed at the WP:VG talk page here. Phediuk (talk) 00:03, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

If an article on a video game is to contain a piped link from something like "one of the greatest games of all time" to this article (i.e. one of the greatest games of all time), the video game should both (1) have sufficient sourcing to make that statement in WP:WikiVoice while abiding by WP:DUE, and (2) appear on this list. One is not enough without the other. TompaDompa (talk) 15:59, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

Yes. It would be accurate to keep individual articles in sync with this list. This list includes releases that have been ranked among the best games of all time by multiple reliable sources. It helps to attribute it but we need not be wordy about it. If someone wants to propose a standardized phrasing I'd be fine with that. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:12, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Moustique, 2024

I am revisiting this list, which I presented here awhile back, but was never added. The editors of French-language Belgian news magazine Moustique did a "top 100 video games since Pong's release in 1972" to celebrate the publication's 100th anniversary in 2024. I have transcribed it below:

Moustique, 2024

1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 2. Final Fantasy VII 3. Red Dead Redemption 2 4. The Last of Us Part II 5. Tetris 6. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 7. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 8. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 9. Super Smash Bros. Melee 10. Portal 2 11. Gran Turismo 2 12. Minecraft 13. Super Mario World 14. Mass Effect 2 15. Metal Gear Solid 16. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 17. Resident Evil 4 (2005) 18. Dark Souls 19. Half-Life 2 20. Okami 21. Super Mario 64 22. Halo: Combat Evolved 23. Disco Elysium 24. Assassin's Creed II 25. Doom (1993) 26. World of Warcraft 27. FIFA 13 28. Bioshock 29. Pokemon Red and Blue 30. Street Fighter II 31. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 32. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 33. Super Metroid 34. Grand Theft Auto IV 35. Wii Sports 36. Outer Wilds 37. Deus Ex 38. Shadow of the Colossus 39. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 40. Silent Hill 2 (2001) 41. Hades 42. Super Mario Bros. 3 43. The Sims 44. The Last of Us 45. God of War (2005) 46. Final Fantasy IX 47. Fallout 3 48. Grand Theft Auto V 49. Destiny 50. Stardew Valley 51. Dishonored 2 52. Persona 5 53. Goldeneye (1997) 54. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 55. Thief: The Dark Project 56. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 57. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 58. Snake 59. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 60. The Secret of Monkey Island 61. Dragon Age: Origins 62. Fortnite 63. Bioshock Infinite 64. Civilization V 65. Guitar Hero 66. Hitman: World of Assassination 67. Super Mario Kart 68. Age of Empires II 69. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 70. NBA 2K24 71. Diablo II 72. Starcraft 73. Left 4 Dead 2 74. Counter-Strike 1.6 75. Ms. Pac-Man 76. Overwatch 77. The Witness 78. Batman: Arkham City 79. Rise of the Tomb Raider 80. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 81. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory 82. The Sims 3 83. Donkey Kong 84. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 85. Mortal Kombat 11 86. Simcity 2000 87. Animal Crossing: New Horizons 88. Mega Man 3 89. League of Legends 90. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag 91. Life Is Strange 92. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 93. Kingdom Hearts II 94. Astro Race 95. Shenmue 96. Alien vs. Predator (1999) 97. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 98. Quake 99. Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005) 100. Pong

The list is editor-chosen, explicitly about the best games (per its preamble), and is not bound by genre, era, or platform. The one question that remains is if Moustique is a reliable source; a quick Google search turns up a spate of citations for the magazine on the French version of Wikipedia. The paper is owned by L'Avenir, which is widely cited on WP. Both papers are part of the IPM media conglomerate. The paper's staff list is here. I asked about the source on WP:VG/S previously, though nothing come of it. Phediuk (talk) 12:25, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

The newspaper seems to be a legitimate source with well qualified staff. IIRC the problem before was getting someone who speaks French who could fully confirm the validity of the source. Is that a required step or is the newspaper's history in being used for other articles acceptable? ~2026-14348-03 (talk) 05:26, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi, native french speaker here! I took a moment to find this link that shows the multiple times that this publication was referenced across French Wikipedia. My knowledge is pretty limited on how to confirm the validity of this source myself, but I hope that it helps. Jabberwocky7297 (talk) 16:44, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

The discussion of Moustique over at WP:VG/S has produced no objections so far, and it appears to be accepted as a reliable source over on French WP, so I will incorporate the list shortly. Final Fantasy IX and The Sims 3 will be added to the main page. (EDIT: Gran Turismo 2 and The Last of Us Part II as well.) Phediuk (talk) 00:15, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2026

WP:NOTFORUM

Horizon zero dawn has no business being on this list and it simply being there invalidates the whole list Snowdrop29 (talk) 13:22, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. {{GearsDatapack|talk|contribs}} 15:39, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

? i want horizon zero dawn removed from the list Snowdrop29 (talk) 15:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

It meets the page criteria, so no. λ NegativeMP1 15:59, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

how lmaoo just because it shows up on some random websites top 500 games of all time lists? no one seriously ranks it that high, its legit the most mid game of the decade, not bad not great just a cheap witcher 3 clone Snowdrop29 (talk) 10:38, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

At least six "random websites", to be precise. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 10:53, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

Dexerto, 2026

https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/best-games-all-time-2855973/ I personally think that updating an all-time list this frequently raises questions about how much effort is going into them, but if the previous lists were eligible then I suppose we're obliged to accept this one as well. IlmeniAVG (talk) 14:16, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I have transcribed the list below:

Dexerto, 2026

1. Elden Ring 2. Red Dead Redemption 2 3. Baldur’s Gate 3 4. The Last of Us 5. Grand Theft Auto V 6. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 7. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 8. Minecraft 9. Mass Effect 2 10. Bloodborne 11. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 12. Resident Evil 4 (2005) 13. Super Mario Galaxy 2 14. Final Fantasy VII 15. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 16. Halo: Combat Evolved 17. Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver 18. World of Warcraft 19. Portal 2 20. Half-Life 2 21. Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 22. Persona 5 23. Dark Souls 24. Tetris 25. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 26. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 27. Fortnite 28. Halo 3 29. Bioshock 30. God of War (2018) 31. Final Fantasy VI 32. Silent Hill 2 (2024) 33. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive 34. Stardew Valley 35. Hades II 36. Super Mario World 37. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 38. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 39. Shadow of the Colossus (2005) 40. Super Mario 64 41. Astro Bot 42. Overwatch 43. Resident Evil (2002) 44. Fallout: New Vegas 45. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 46. Cyberpunk 2077 47. Left 4 Dead 2 48. Death Stranding 2: On the Beach 49. Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End 50. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 51. League of Legends 52. Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 53. Gears of War 2 54. Journey 55. Grand Theft Auto IV 56. Metroid Prime 57. Forza Horizon 4 58. Animal Crossing: New Horizons 59. Batman: Arkham Asylum 60. Apex Legends 61. Dead Space (2008) 62. Hollow Knight 63. Diablo II 64. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 65. Civilization IV 66. Split Fiction 67. Marvel’s Spider-Man (2018) 68. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 69. Borderlands 2 70. Persona 4 Golden 71. Metaphor: ReFantazio 72. Fallout 3 73. Nier: Automata 74. Destiny 2 75. Kingdom Hearts II 76. Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 77. Fire Emblem: Three Houses 78. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 79. Street Fighter II 80. Divinity: Original Sin II 81. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 82. Hitman: World of Assassination 83. The Walking Dead 84. Alan Wake 2 85. Devil May Cry 3: Dante’s Awakening 86. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 87. Assassin’s Creed II 88. Gran Turismo 4 89. Doom Eternal 90. Tomb Raider (1996) 91. Undertale 92. Bioshock Infinite 93. PUBG: Battlegrounds 94. Monster Hunter: World 95. Tekken 3 96. The Sims 2 97. Okami 98. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 99. Quake 100. Blue Prince

25 games appear on this list that were not featured on either of the prior Dexerto lists. I will incorporate this list onto the main page shortly. While no new entries will be added to the main page, Divinity: Original Sin II and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 will both be at five sources. Phediuk (talk) 21:40, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Done. I have also added the Dexerto list to the omnibus data. Phediuk (talk) 15:16, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

Visualized list also updated. BenSVE (talk) 19:23, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

Isn't Dexerto considered an unreliable source? HUMANXANTHRO (What you say about his company is what you say about society) 16:12, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

As of 2026, it appears so, per WP:DEXERTO and WP:VG/S. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 01:28, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Lead still need work

Previously during our debate about the film, we went into discussion about changing the lead to better reflect the content of the article and have some meat on the bones of the list outside the numerology reasoning which was just chosen by a sample of editors involved. I'd like to cycle back to that if we could here. As Shooterwalker said, changes are best made to be WP:INCREMENTAL, so I'm going to just focus on adjusting the lead here as currently, the list is vague on why the number is applied and what being on a best of list means in a wider spectrum.

@Phediuk: had their suggested re-write here User:Phediuk/Lede. I've attempted a mild variation of the phrasing at User:Andrzejbanas/ListLede. I think some clarification on these qualifications will help make it a better article. Any thoughts/comments/issues? Any preference on what would improve the phrasing? I only request anyone following up that we focus just on the lead for now over how material is organized, displayed or other types of material at this moment. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:27, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

Some comments on User:Andrzejbanas/ListLede:

• Try to avoid "This is a list" per MOS:THISISALIST.
• The games are included on at least three best-of lists from different publications. – it's currently six, no?
• I don't think the phrasing All included lists included are not limited to consoles, genres or select time periods. works. The repeated "included" aside, it's a bit difficult to figure out what it's supposed to say if you don't already know.
• Game scholars Kretzschmar & Raffel (2023), for instance, observe that [...] – I take it this will be covered by a reference that is not included in the current draft. I would avoid using what looks like WP:Parenthetical referencing and instead use a phrasing such as "Game scholars [First name] Kretzschmar and [First name] Raffel, for instance, wrote in 2023 that [...]"
• Some list reflect – this should presumably by plural, i.e. "lists".
• I would try to avoid lengthy verbatim quotes in favour of paraphrasing where possible.
• 96 different best-games lists, representing 54 unique publications – I think these figures are now out of date?
• The "Notes" column beside each entry quotes where the game in question was explicitly named as the singular best game of all time by a given source. – this has not yet been implemented (but I don't think there was any particular opposition to doing so?).

Ping Andrzejbanas. TompaDompa (talk) 17:52, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi @TompaDompa:. Sorry for the slow reply, I initially waited to see if any others had any comments or big issues. I'm presuming there is not really any other issues or anyone against updating the lead to clarify the items we previously discussed.

• Fair, was unfamiliar. I've changed this.
• Ahh yeah. This number was something we discussed earlier in the discussion, but leave it for six for now and discuss that point another day.
• I've added the source for this and expanded as you requested. I've also added the IGN and Hardcore Gaming 101 sites. While these are just ones I happen to pluck, we might want to look at what other websites or information says on this topic.
• Re-wrote the quotes, a bad habit of mine! :)
• Yeah, I've moved it to over 90 for now, which seems accurate. Might as well have it so we don't have to automatically update every time a list shows up.
• True, probably something to discuss as a separate topic. but I've basically removed it for now.

How's it look now? Feel free to make some other edits to it. I've also added the sources. The "blank" ones, are using the citation names used in this article. Andrzejbanas (talk) 14:52, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Some new comments:

• The lists included have were ones that do not limit the scope – anacoluthon. How about "These lists do not limit the scope"?
• This ranges from Hardcore Gaming 101's overview illustrates these differing approaches writing give a broad overview of many different types of games across the medium’s history” – I am unable to parse this, and there's an unmatched quotation mark.

I'll probably make some copyedits once it goes live as well. TompaDompa (talk) 17:56, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it might be easier for you to give it a quick edit. Your welcome to edit my draft, I think it may be just easier that way. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:40, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: I gave it a shot. Please check if I unintentionally changed the meaning to something that is not correct. TompaDompa (talk) 13:51, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Sorry for my snail's paced reply! I think this will do. If anything, using it and changing it will get more eyes on it if there are any missing bits or further issues. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:12, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

Moustique, 2024 list incorporated

Following the discussion in the "Moustique, 2024" section above, I have incorporated Moustique's top 100 list onto the main page, and added entries for Gran Turismo 2, Final Fantasy IX, The Sims 3, and The Last of Us Part II accordingly. In addition Outer Wilds and Life Is Strange are now at five listings each. I have also added the Moustique list to the omnibus data. Phediuk (talk) 17:54, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

Great. Visualized list has also been updated accordingly. BenSVE (talk) 19:37, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2026

Need to add the games considered best from 2023 onwards. Keep it up to date Change the table to the remaining years For reference: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls023816644/ https://thegameawards.com/ AaronKoshy (talk) 15:11, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 16:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

Kinopoisk (2023)

https://www.kinopoisk.ru/media/article/4008429/#gg100

Thoughts? The list was compiled from the opinions of solicited experts (translated: "Representatives of the video game industry and film critics, game journalists and bloggers, stars and just gamers"), similar to this British GQ list. Kinopoisk is primarily a streaming service and online database, rather than a media outlet, but it does have thousands of citations on Wikipedia. Everything I can see points to this being reliable. IlmeniAVG (talk) 02:56, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for finding this. I have transcribed the list below:

Kinopoisk, 2023

1. Half-Life 2 2. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 3. Red Dead Redemption 2 4. The Last of Us 5. Doom (1993) 6. Heroes of Might and Magic III 7. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 8. Tetris 9. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 10. Fallout 2 11. Disco Elysium 12. The Last of Us Part II 13. Half-Life 14. Final Fantasy VII 15. Portal 2 16. Dark Souls 17. Mass Effect 2 18. Baldur’s Gate 3 19. Super Mario Bros. 20. Grand Theft Auto V 21. Silent Hill 2 (2001) 22. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 23. Minecraft 24. World of Warcraft 25. Deus Ex 26. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 27. Bloodborne 28. Fallout: New Vegas 29. Metal Gear Solid 30. Resident Evil 4 (2005) 31. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 32. Fallout 33. Max Payne 34. Thief: The Dark Project 35. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 36. God of War (2018) 37. Planescape: Torment 38. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 39. Halo: Combat Evolved 40. Prey (2017) 41. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 42. Diablo II 43. Civilization 44. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 45. Resident Evil (1996) 46. Grand Theft Auto III 47. Persona 5 48. Marvel’s Spider-Man (2018) 49. Super Mario Odyssey 50. Gothic II 51. The Stanley Parable 52. Bioshock Infinite 53. Elden Ring 54. Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty 55. Bioshock 56. Dota 2 57. Cyberpunk 2077 58. Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End 59. Mass Effect 60. Pong 61. Diablo 62. Psychonauts 63. Inside 64. Portal 65. Final Fantasy IX 66. The Sims 67. Animal Crossing: New Horizons 68. Dishonored 69. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 70. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 71. Quake 72. Rome: Total War 73. Battletoads & Double Dragon 74. Titanfall 2 75. Grand Theft Auto IV 76. Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne 77. What Remains of Edith Finch 78. Hades 79. Half-Life: Alyx 80. Escape from Tarkov 81. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive 82. Hollow Knight 83. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain 84. Hotline Miami 85. Alan Wake 86. Red Dead Redemption 87. Outer Wilds 88. Fortnite 89. Super Metroid 90. Firewatch 91. Counter-Strike 1.6 92. Pathologic 93. Dragon Age: Origins 94. Shadow of the Colossus (2005) 95. Contra 96. Xenogears 97. The Sims 2 98. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom 99. Heavy Rain 100. Pac-Man

The site is widely cited across the Russian Wikipedia, so it appears to be accepted as a reliable source. The list is explicitly about the "greatest games in history", is unrestricted by platform/era/genre, and is based on solicited expert opinions, so I will incorporate it shortly, if there are no objections. Entries for Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, and Outer Wilds will be added to the main page. In addition, Firewatch, Titanfall 2, and The Stanley Parable will now be at five sources each. Phediuk (talk) 23:23, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Any status on this update? Alena 33 (talk) 03:48, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Done. I have also added the Kinopoisk list to the omnibus data. Phediuk (talk) 08:39, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

Adding some games to the 2020 year

2020 has three of the five great games of 2020. (Last of us Part 2, Hades, and Animal Crossing: New Horizons. However, many people (both fans and critics/reviewers) have stated that Ghost of Tsushima and Final Fantasy VII: Remake are among the greatest games of the 2020 year. Many sources have stated this as well as the Game Awards nominating both games for Game of the Year (With Final Fantasy VII Remake winning best RPG and best soundtrack) TheAdorkables (talk) 04:50, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Please refer to the FAQ up on top of this page as to why they do not currently qualify. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 06:23, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

I've read it. I'm not sure I understand. There are indeed countless editors that have stated that both Ghost of Tsushima and Final Fantasy VII Remake are indeed among the greatest games of 2020 that perfectly meet the qualification standards set in the rules above. Not just for the year 2020 or their respected genres or platforms. TheAdorkables (talk) 03:22, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

To perfectly meet the qualification standards set in the rules above, they must be mentioned on "best of all time" lists from six different publications; being named among the greatest games of 2020 is not enough. According to the omnibus data, Ghost of Tsushima has been named once and Final Fantasy VII Remake zero times; there's obviously a chance that some lists have been missed, but probably not enough to meet the current criteria anytime soon. – Rhain ☔ ^he
_him 04:00, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Popular Mechanics just updated

GameRant did too, but that was a reader poll, so it doesn’t count. Alena 33 (talk) 21:35, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

I can confirm that the Popular Mechanics list is identical to their 2019 list. Phediuk (talk) 23:59, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Kanobu

Recently I tried looking for some lists and found this one from Kanobu. This list is a compilation of a 10 part series of articles ranking top 100 games. A quick search shows that the source is used on Wikipedia. The list description says "Let's be clear: these aren't academic top lists. There won't be games like Pong or Pac-Man. If game X introduced an important mechanic long ago, and game Y perfected it 20 years later, game Y will make the top. Aside from a bunch of subjective categories, all the games were subject to one key criterion: do they play well today?" So it seems to fit the criteria. One thing to note is that the source says it was updated in 2021, however wayback machine shows that the list existed back in 2018, while the first part of the series was posted in 2017. The rankings didn't feature any differences (though I could have missed something) so I'm not sure whether it would be better to list the ranking as from 2018 or 2017. IgorRoman10 (talk) 09:17, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for finding this. The list is staff-chosen, unrestricted by era/platform/genre, and explicitly about the "best games in the world", per its #1 entry. The only question that remains is whether Kanobu is a reliable source; a quick Google search turns up hundreds of citations on the Russian Wikipedia, so it seems accepted there, though running the site by WP:VG/S would still be a good idea. I have transcribed the list below:

Kanobu, 2018

1. Portal 2 2. Dark Souls III 3. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 4. Bioshock 5. Heroes of Might and Magic III 6. Overwatch 7. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 8. Shadow of the Colossus 9. Ori and the Blind Forest 10. Deus Ex: Human Revolution 11. World of Warcraft 12. EVE Online 13. Final Fantasy XII 14. Psychonauts 15. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 16. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 17. Braid 18. Beyond Good & Evil 19. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 20. Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance 21. Planescape: Torment 22. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 23. XCOM 2: War of the Chosen 24. Fallout: New Vegas 25. FTL: Faster than Light 26. Firewatch 27. Chrono Trigger 28. Silent Hill: Shattered Memories 29. Ikaruga 30. Halo: Reach 31. Night in the Woods 32. Final Fantasy Tactics 33. What Remains of Edith Finch 34. Xenoblade Chronicles 35. Diablo III 36. Civilization V 37. Starcraft II 38. Doom (2016) 39. Gothic 2: Night of the Raven 40. Inside 41. Half-Life 2 42. Grim Fandango 43. Alien: Isolation 44. Dota 2 45. Gran Turismo 5 46. Life Is Strange 47. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 48. Metroid Prime 49. Shenmue 50. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 51. Divinity: Original Sin II 52. Max Payne 53. System Shock 2 54. Prince of Persia Trilogy HD 55. Team Fortress 2 56. The Last of Us 57. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 58. Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory 59. Rayman Legends 60. Super Mario Galaxy 61. Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura 62. Bayonetta 2 63. Dragon Age: Origins 64. Hitman: Blood Money 65. Super Mario World 66. Resident Evil 4 (2005) 67. Rocksmith 2014 68. Total War: Attila 69. Supreme Commander 70. Burnout Paradise 71. Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004) 72. Cities: Skylines 73. The Secret of Monkey Island: Special Edition 74. To the Moon 75. Pathologic 76. Super Meat Boy 77. Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection 78. Samurai Shodown II 79. Sonic Mania 80. Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver 81. Gimmick! 82. Gunstar Heroes 83. Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition 84. Tales from the Borderlands 85. Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 86. Battlefield: Bad Company 87. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 88. Motorstorm: Pacific Rift 89. Fable: The Lost Chapters 90. Army of Two: The 40th Day 91. Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor 92. Minecraft 93. Until Dawn 94. Mass Effect 2 95. Left 4 Dead 2 96. Dying Light 97. Batman: Arkham Asylum 98. Comix Zone 99. Mortal Kombat Trilogy 100. Five Nights at Freddy’s

If this list is incorporated, EVE Online, Fable, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, FTL: Faster than Light, Bayonetta 2, Life Is Strange, Ori and the Blind Forest, Doom, Firewatch, and Divinity: Original Sin II will all be added to the main page. In addition, Final Fantasy XII, To the Moon, and What Remains of Edith Finch will all be at five sources. Phediuk (talk) 08:59, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

It's been a couple of weeks since I started a discussion on WP:VG/S; what is your idea so far about its inclusion? Jabberwocky7297 (talk) 20:25, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

The discussion is inconclusive so far, though the source's reliability on the Russian WP has been established. We should wait a bit and see if anyone else weighs into the discussion. Phediuk (talk) 16:30, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

this discussion around the Kanobu incorporation has been oddly quiet nowadays, you should discuss this more and do more research. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 07:19, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Old Format

Previously Wikipedia had a ranked format featuring all of the games placed in order based on how many lists included them & or how often they ranked at the top of the list. Whatever happened to that format and is there any interest in editors for bringing it back? I feel like such a format would be more indicative of video game critical acclaim than a list that's unranked as it includes a huge list of titles simply for being listed on just a small number of articles. Never17 (talk) 04:33, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

This page is deliberately not a meta-ranking to avoid WP:SYNTH, but another has editor has created such a list here. Phediuk (talk) 20:09, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

Such a format just ranks older games higher because they've been around longer. TarkusAB^talk/contrib 01:52, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

Not that I think this should be added, I don't agree that would be the case. For neutrality, it should be just listed alphabetically or chronologically (as it currently) Andrzejbanas (talk) 06:22, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

Okay based on the comments from you guys, i think i found a better solution.

- Magazines / Outlets listed in chronological order from when the list was made

- On the table we directly link each publications source, including ones were the website hosted surveys amongst their user base which is what IGN & Game Informer and others have done in the past

- At the end of the table it would be the game that was ranked #1 on the list, perhaps the #2 as well

A example would be since it came first chronologically, the start of the table looks like

Year / Publication / #1 Game / #2 Game / Reference

1996 / Next Gen Magazine / Super Mario 64 / Tetris / Source URL

Then it continues downwards by the year the article was published. This is much more efficient and easier for editors to manage, and additionally is not a ranking of games directly but rather highlights outlets themselves and what was #1 in that period of time

This would show a historical shift of Public & Critic Opinion spanning the last 30+ years of the Gaming Industry, very informative for the average reader who stumbles upon this article Never17 (talk) 20:36, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Rather than Wikipedia providing a synthesized ranking, this would provide the raw data in chronological order starting from when the first established source was published and then continuing to present day. People who view the article would be able to count themselves and make their own independent rankings without having Wikipedia doing it on their own. Never17 (talk) 20:40, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I proposed something similar to this in a particularly lengthy discussion about this article a few months ago, but it was rejected. I'm not sure how ready people are to have a discussion like that again, but I would prefer the format you suggest over the current format, for what it's worth. IlmeniAVG (talk) 00:17, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

I would be willing to help you guys if there is a consensus, but it would be useful as well to establish a baseline as to what sources are deemed acceptable. Never17 (talk) 00:21, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

If a game appears in the top 10 across a dozen lists, but never cracks the top 2 on any of them, it would not be listed here with your format. I do not think that's an improvement to the page. TarkusAB^talk/contrib 07:43, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

That is a valid concern, you are right. Resident Evil 4 for example could be top 10 numerous times but if it doesn't make the top of the list it wouldn't be here.

Then we'd need something different. Any ideas? Never17 (talk) 08:30, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

List aggregation should not be attempted on Wikipedia. Any attempt to do that is original research by definition. That is one of the main criticisms that people have of this page: that it is original research disguised as neutral reporting of facts. Discussions such as the above, which centre on how to fix the clearly flawed aggregation method, show that the page is still, even with the recent revisions, broadly understood as a list aggregation project. I know people are attached to this page and others are tired of debating it, but we're going to have to revisit it eventually. There are way too many problems here. IlmeniAVG (talk) 08:58, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

The proposed format would be chronologically listed to avoid any aggregation. Which addresses the issues we currently have, however a issue would be less games highlighted than present. Never17 (talk) 16:10, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Hyper, 2018

Hyper was Australia's biggest and longest-lasting multiplatform games publication published by Future Plc. In 2018, they published an unranked 200-game The 200 Games You Must Play list. Like 1001 Video Games You Must Play Before You Die, this is a list appropriate for inclusion as an unranked multiplatform, multi-decade list from a major publication clearly intended to represent the best games of all time as 'must-play' games. The publication has some sub-lists interspersed between the main list with amusing themes: these are not part of the 200. I am aware this is yet to be confirmed as WP:VG/S and am starting a discussion to that effect - I strongly consider this is easily identifiable as a reliable source. See the list below:

Hyper, 2018

• 80 Days
• Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings
• The Ancient Art of War
• Animal Crossing: New Leaf
• Arkanoid
• Assassin's Creed II
• Asteroids
• Bastion
• Batman: Arkham Asylum
• Battlefield 1942
• Bayonetta 2
• The Beatles: Rock Band
• Beyond Good & Evil
• The Binding of Isaac
• BioShock 2
• Blade Runner
• Bloodborne
• Body Harvest
• Borderlands 2: Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep
• Braid
• Burnout 3: Takedown
• Bushido Blade
• Bust-A-Move (AKA Puzzle Bobble)
• Buster Bros. (AKA Pang)
• Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
• Capcom vs. SNK 2: Mark of the Millennium 2001
• Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
• The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay
• Chrono Trigger
• Civilization V
• Colossal Cave Adventure
• Command & Conquer: Red Alert
• Crazy Taxi
• Crusader Kings II
• Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc
• Dark Souls
• The Darkness
• Day of the Tentacle
• Dead Rising
• Deadly Premonition
• DEFCON
• Defender
• Defender of the Crown
• Deus Ex
• Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
• Diablo III
• Divinity: Original Sin II
• DoDonPachi
• Donkey Kong
• Doom II
• Double Dragon
• Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
• Dungeon Master
• Earth Defense Force 2025
• The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
• Elite
• Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth
• Exile
• Fallout
• Far Cry 2
• Fez
• Final Fantasy VI (AKA Final Fantasy III [US])
• Flower
• Freespace 2
• Frequency
• Galaga
• Gauntlet
• Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved
• Ghouls N Ghosts
• God Hand
• Gran Turismo 2
• Grand Prix Legends
• Grand Theft Auto IV
• Guardian Heroes
• Half-Life 2
• Halo: Combat Evolved
• Head Over Heels
• Her Story
• Herzog Zwei
• Hitman: Blood Money
• Hotline Miami
• Icey
• Ico
• Ikaruga
• IL-2 Sturmovik
• Impossible Mission
• Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
• Inside
• Jagged Alliance 2
• Jet Set Radio Future
• Jet Set Willy
• Journey
• Kentucky Route Zero
• The Last Express
• The Last of Us
• League of Legends
• Left 4 Dead 2
• The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
• The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
• Lemmings
• Life Is Strange
• Limbo
• Lode Runner
• Lost Odyssey
• Lumines
• Manhunt
• Mario Kart 8
• Mashed
• Mass Effect
• Mega Man 2
• Metal Gear Solid
• Meteos
• Metroid Prime
• A Mind Forever Voyaging
• Minecraft
• Missile Command
• Monument Valley
• Myth II: Soulblighter
• NBA Jam
• Nier
• No Man's Sky
• Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan
• Out of This World (AKA Another World)
• OutRun
• Panzer Dragoon Saga
• Papers Please
• Paradroid
• Peggle
• Phantasy Star IV
• Phantasy Star Online
• Pitfall!
• Planescape: Torment
• PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds
• Point Blank 2
• Pokemon Blue / Red / Yellow (AKA Pokemon FireRed / LeafGreen)
• Portal
• Portal 2
• Prince of Persia
• Pro Evolution Soccer 5
• Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
• Quake III Arena
• R4: Ridge Racer Type 4
• Rainbow Islands
• Rayman Origins
• Realms of the Haunting
• Red Dead Redemption
• Resident Evil 4
• Rez (AKA Rez Infinite)
• Rocket League
• Rockstar Games Presents Table Tennis
• Rome: Total War
• Saturn Bomberman
• The Sentinel
• Shadow of the Colossus
• Silent Hill 2
• SimCity
• The Sims
• Sine Mora
• Sins of a Solar Empire
• Space Channel 5
• Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe
• Spelunky
• The Stanley Parable
• Star Control II
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
• StarCraft
• Stardew Valley
• Street Fighter II
• Super Mario Bros. 3
• Super Mario Galaxy 2
• Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
• Super Meat Boy
• Super Metroid
• Super Smash Bros. Melee
• System Shock 2
• Team Fortress 2
• Tempest 2000
• Tetris
• Thief: The Dark Project
• Threes
• Tokyo Jungle
• Tomb Raider (1996)
• Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
• Tron 2.0
• Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
• Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss
• Undertale
• Valkyria Chronicles
• Vanquish
• Vib Ribbon
• Virginia
• The Walking Dead
• Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness
• We Love Katamari
• Wii Sports
• Wii Sports Resort
• Wipeout XL (AKA Wipeout 2097)
• The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
• The Witness
• Wizball
• Worms Armageddon
• Yakuza 5
• Zen Bound

Relevant to my own interests, adding this would lead to the inclusion of A Mind Forever Voyaging which would then have six entries. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 06:30, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for this, The list is staff-chosen and unrestricted by platform/era/genre. In addition, it is selected based on what Hyper considers the best games; the entry for The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, for instance, says, "We argued long and hard over which of Link’s adventures should make this list and in the end we decided that his SNES outing was his best" and the Hitman: Blood Money entry says, "Hitman 2016 was a wonderful game, but Blood Money is still the best Hitman". I doubt there will be any trouble confirming Hyper as a RS, since it is already widely cited. If there are no objections, I will incorporate the list onto the page shortly. Entries for A Mind Forever Voyaging, Head over Heels, Crazy Taxi, Freespace 2, Lumines: Puzzle Fusion, The Stanley Parable, Life Is Strange, and Divinity: Original Sin II will be added to the main page. In addition, The Sentinel, Rainbow Islands: The Story of Bubble Bobble 2, Herzog Zwei, Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss, Puzzle Bobble, Saturn Bomberman, Worms Armageddon, Jet Set Radio Future, God Hand, Far Cry 2, Flower, The Binding of Isaac, Fez, and Bayonetta 2 will all be at 5 entries. Phediuk (talk) 17:36, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

Done. I have also added the Hyper list to the omnibus data. Phediuk (talk) 19:18, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Visualized list has also been updated. Thanks. BenSVE (talk) 21:49, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Missing entry problem

So I was just checking the omnibus out of curiosity and I saw Bayonetta 2 at six entries, I then went back to the page and scrolled through the list and the game was missing even though it meets the inclusion criteria of six entries, can anyone please fix this? ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 07:02, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Bayonetta 2 is at five entries at present (Edge, HG101, Hyper, GamesRadar, and Polygon), according to the omnibus data, so probably just a minor error on the spreadsheet. – Rhain ☔ ^he
_him 07:11, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

yeah sorry bro, I didn't know it was the omnibus's fault and not the editor's fault, you should correct that page, also on a related but unrelated note, can you provide me a list of games that are at 5 entries on the omnibus, for curiosity purposes. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 07:17, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Bayonetta 2 should be fixed on the visualized sheet. Thanks. BenSVE (talk) 21:12, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Any updates on the Kanobu situation?

since discussion around Kanobu has been very inactive, I wonder if any advancements have been made to ensure it's a reliable source to incorporate into the list or not. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 06:10, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

The WP:VG/S discussion on its reliability was inconclusive, so it will not be incorporated for the time being. Phediuk (talk) 15:40, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

but can you discuss it more? ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 03:52, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

the criteria mentions it has to be picked by a editorial staff and solisticed experts. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 03:01, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

Split Fiction, 2025

Steam: 97% positive reviews

PlayStation 5: 92% of "5 stars" reviews

XBOX Series X/S: 93% positive reviews — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-35866-73 (talk) 16:07, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Doesn't meet the inclusion criteria—not currently on any list of "best games of all time" by reliable publications. Review scores play no role here, especially not user reviews. – Rhain ☔ ^he
_him 23:28, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

can we tell this newcomer about the six entries rule? ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 03:52, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Decide if Kanobu is a reliable source. (Again)

hey guys, since the first discussion resulted in a inconclusive answer, I want you guys to find more about Kanobu and decide wherever it should be added to the list or not, and if the discussion results in yes, we will incorporate that into the list with new additions, if it results in no, you should just ignore it and move on. See you tomorrow! ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 07:40, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

I imagine we're all stalling for similar reasons: it's not particularly urgent, and it's tricky to research things in a foreign language. If you want to see some progress then I suggest trying to address some of the concerns yourself. They are, from what I can see, the lack of an editorial policy, and some concerns about the experience and qualifications of some of the editors. If you can find some new information on either of those fronts, that will get us closer to a decision. IlmeniAVG (talk) 13:41, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

update: I did the second discussion again on WP:VGS, after a long conversation, someone put the page through a accurate English translator to see if it was reliable, after that, we came to a consensus that Kanobu is a reliable source with a few minor issues, so we think it could be incorporated into the list. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 07:15, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure what "long conversation" you're referring to; this one only has one other contributor (who considers it reliable based on past usage and the Russian Wikipedia). It's a promising start, but last month's discussion was a bit more cautious, so we're not in a hurry here. – Rhain ☔ ^he
_him 09:32, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

how about you and I go to the page to discuss it together to find more answers. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 10:23, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

No need to wait for me! The discussion is still open—feel free to take a look at the website and see how it holds up against Wikipedia's guideline on reliable sources (and video game sources in particular). – Rhain ☔ ^he
_him 10:46, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

So I translated the entire page into English, and I found it overall to be fine and dandy in reliability with a few hiccups in the way. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 12:17, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

guys, I'm going to go to sleep now, bye bye, I will come back tomorrow. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 14:12, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

OK, I'm back, should I should go and message Phediuk about this? ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 05:46, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

hey Rhain, how many Simpsons episodes are you going to edit before you answer me about messaging Phediuk? ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 05:50, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

There is no rush; this thread is ongoing. Editors will reply if and when they want to. Demanding an answer after four minutes is not going to make it appear any faster, nor will tracking a user's contributions. – Rhain ☔ ^he
_him 06:13, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

ah sorry mate, but can I message Phediuk? ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 06:59, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Editors will reply if and when they want to. – Rhain ☔ ^he
_him 07:00, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

so, I think the editorial process of the article is kinda scarce to be honest, it's implied that the site used to be edited by everyone, and each entry on the list was submitted by a different editor on the website, I supposed you could see this as a detriment to reliability. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 09:43, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

OK, more people have decided it's reliable by pointing out how Russian and Western gaming sites are very different in approach, which makes researching as a non-Russian a pain in the ass, so yeah the only issues are presentation. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 14:11, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

hey Rhain, so the discussion has gone more in-depth, the Russian users say it's reliable while non-Russian users have a more mixed opinion. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 10:37, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

after the discussion, I think it's a 50/50 in reliability but still should be incorporated. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 03:29, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

If there isn't a consensus in favor if it's reliability, you have no grounds to be using it in this article. Sergecross73 msg me 23:11, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm no longer interested in this discussion, I'm leaving. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 08:44, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

The outcome of the Kanobu conversation

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Kanobu has been confirmed to be semi-reliable, please use this source with caution, btw if the source was incorporated, new entries will be on the list. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 05:04, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

The discussion looks far less conclusive to me. I don't expect to see the list implemented any time soon. – Rhain ☔ ^he
_him 05:06, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

OK, before I go, what are your thoughts on changing the criteria number for a game's inclusion on best-of lists to 5 instead of 6? ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 05:49, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

There have been several proposals over the years (both to raise and lower the threshold), but we're still at six for now. That can, of course, be changed by consensus—see Q3. – Rhain ☔ ^he
_him 06:08, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Should we change the criteria number to 5?

hi there, sorry about the Kanobu situation, but I think 5 is better than 6 for the amount of sources to make a entry valid, so please discuss this proposed change, and I'm sorry for fabricating the Kanobu consensus. ~2026-35526-57 (talk) 02:59, 3 July 2026 (UTC)