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Although Cuckfield evidently has a "mayor" it is still only a village - all the quoted websites say so! Otherwise it wouldn't need to have a Parish Council Peter Shearan 10:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

True. The mayor is a ceremonial position dating from the 1960s. The election is a fundraising mechanism for local charitable projects and prides itself on being the most corrupt in Britain. --69.229.158.19 01:39, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I've lived in Cuckfield for 18 months and no-one I've spoken to in the Village has ever called it "Cookfield". The "cuck" in Cuckfield rhymes with suck. Even people who've lived in the village for years. Where did the author hear people saying "Cookfield"?--195.212.29.67 on 23 March 2007.

My grandmother has lived there for 70 years (and was actually 'mayor' one year), my mother grew up there; they both use 'Cookfield'. In addition

Though Sussex locals wince if you pronounce Chiddingly, Hellingly etc as -lee instead of Lie, and Cuckfield as Cuck instead of Cook.

and

Vowel shifts aren't consistent, either. In Sussex, you pronounce Uckfield as you'd expect, but prefix with a C and you get Cuckfield (cook-field).

I think that is proof--Erp 20:48, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

My family has been in Cuckfield since 1976, and the pronunciation has always been cook-field. I have never heard any other. JDAWiseman (talk) 22:10, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

inappropriate link?

Is

Independent State of Cuckfield - The community charity responsible for the idiosyncratic system of voting for mayor.

inappropriate? My view is that it falls under the category of "Articles about any organization, person, web site, or other entity should link to the official site if any". Admittedly the Independent State of Cuckfield isn't the main article but the mayoral election is discussed. Or should the link be included in the body of the article?--Erp 00:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation

The original wording of this article contained an inadequate example of pronunciation I'm afraid. It said that it is pronounced 'Cookfield' and that 'Cookfield' doesn't rhyme with 'Uckfield'.

There are so many different accents in the United Kingdom (and even just in England alone) that words like 'cook' and 'uck' are pronounced differently from one place to the next, and in some native accents both 'cook' and 'uck' are pronounced identically, so a better way of talking about the pronunciation of the place-name 'Cookfield' was needed.

Therefore I've made a slight alteration, building on what was previously there but deleting the part that was well intentioned but misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.159.193 (talk) 17:00, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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* Moved to 'start' from 'stub' as much to complete an article to be rated as a stub.--Paste Let’s have a chat. 07:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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Phonetics are unclear with KUUK-feeld

KUUK as in Cook/Book/Rook, or KUUK as in Continuum? KUUK as in Vacuum? KUUK as in Look? 82.14.222.80 (talk) 12:41, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

I forgotten to login, this was me GeorgeWL 1990 (talk) 15:30, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Manor of Cuckfield

The Manor of Cuckfield is the continued ancient system of government for the village and surrounding countryside. A section ought to be included as it is relevant to the history of the village. This is all based off relevant factual knowledge. Contributions are welcome from all views. SPQHH (talk) 19:43, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

At most this is history not government. The Lord of the Manor as it currently stands is a vanity title with absolutely no legal authority (well I guess he could try suing much like Mark Roberts (businessman)). Your additions are also mostly unsourced or sourced from Pitt's own website for the bit about Pitt. Erp (talk) 00:00, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

@Erp perhaps that is correct to some extent; though, surely history explains how government comes about. If not, then moving this section to history would be appropriate: is that correct?

I am afraid this conjecture on 'Lord of the Manor' being a vanity title is quite incorrect. Do refer to recent case law such as Roberts v. Crown Estate Commissioners [2008] 2 WLR 1111 and the common law principle that laws unchanged remain valid for proof on this point.

In the case of Christian Pitt, this is based on his website because he happens to have the title as confirmed by The London Gazette publication (which I cited in the article).

Otherwise, the crux of the sources cited (if deemed original research) rests on the legal textbook quoted and sources from The National Archives.

Let me know if I may be of any further assistance. SPQHH (talk) 12:45, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

I will note that someone's personal website is not considered a reliable source. You need a good secondary sources both for facts and for the significance of the current holder being mentioned. Pitt was once a district councillor (Mid Sussex District, resigned, and has since run twice more losing both times that at least is covered in secondary sources. Instead of 'vanity title' perhaps 'empty title'. What rights now pertain to it beyond being able to style oneself as such? Erp (talk) 13:59, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

Original research removed

User:SPQHH has tendentiously edit warred to include swathes of unsourced original research after final warning not to do so, they have been reported. Theroadislong (talk) 15:24, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

@Theroadislong that is a harsh and inaccurately rash judgment. I have included sourced and secondary sources with merely one admonition to my research. I cannot be held responsible for the idleness of fellow editors to read the sources. Do indicate what exactly is needed to provide the strength needed for a valid article and I shall provide the evidence as requested. Thank you x SPQHH (talk) 12:40, 14 July 2025 (UTC)