Talk:Cea Weaver

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I believe the article title cited in this footnote is incorrect. (I had to search several ways before finding it.)

6. Eisenpress, Cara; Weaver, Cea (August 2025)."The Debate: Freeze the rent". The Real Deal.

The title is "Should the government set price controls on housing? Mamdani primary reopens debate" https://therealdeal.com/magazine/august-2025/the-debate/ Greenbergman2 (talk) 21:16, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

her info

Her real name is Celia M Weaver.

Family are Celia S Applegate, Robert H Weaver, Stewart A Weaver.

She is not a "urban planner" she has never been a professional who practices in the field of town planning, urban planning or city planning.

Age 37. Tabbycatlove (talk) 18:40, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Correct that sources, including her current NYU bio https://gallatin.nyu.edu/people/faculty/cmw530.html show no such employment. Typically faculty bios are self-written so I'm sure she'd have included it if there was actual employment in that field. Coretheapple (talk) 22:30, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Why isn’t her actual birthdate noted. I’ve never seen born in 1988 or 1989. How would that not be know ~2026-14903-1 (talk) 03:32, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

When you search her name on wikipedia she is still described as "American urban planner and tenant organizer" - that should be corrected - since she is not an "urban planner". Boing55 (talk) 17:35, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

That was in the short description, which I changed to reflect her new status as a city official and her old status as tenant organizer. Coretheapple (talk) 17:43, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2026

Change American to Jewish American. Source: She goes to synagogue ~2026-11992-5 (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. --pro-anti-air ––>(talk)<–– 21:22, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

UNDELETE MY COMMENT, YOU COWARDS. I HAVE RECEIPTS. Tabbycatlove (talk) 23:20, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Please don't WP:SHOUT, I recommend you read that page. --pro-anti-air ––>(talk)<–– 23:24, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Please remove

...the question regarding notability. In her new role, she is making the front pages of every major news venue, and as such, will pose questions to those readers, which will turn to us. [once a professor, and registered editor] ~2025-42222-78 (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2025-42222-78 (talk) 02:04, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2026

Please added her mother Celia Applegate and connect via this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celia_Applegate ~2026-13542-0 (talk) 12:39, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

 Not done but thank you for flagging that BLP nightmare. There is nothing in the current article stating that Applegate is the mother of Cea Weaver. Coretheapple (talk) 15:02, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

Controversial Tweets

Was told I needed to start a discussion on her social media history. Her past tweets are vast and include highlights such as "private property including and kind of ESPECIALLY homeownership is a weapon of white supremacy masquerading as ‘wealth building’ public policy." and "while society transitions from a system of individual to collective property rights, “families, especially white families,” would be impacted."

These are definitely noteworthy and should be included in a description of her politics. It is currently being picked up today by major news outlets including ABC, PBS, NYP, Fox News, etc. Lockrobster12 (talk) 01:02, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Reliable sources covering this controversy (i.e. not NYPost or twitter links)

ABC

NBC

PBS

WSJ

NYTimes

The topic has been given more than enough coverage by RS to warrant inclusion in this article. DiodotusNicator (talk) 01:09, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

I agree. Thank you. Lockrobster12 (talk) 01:25, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Furthermore, we can see from the NYTimes link that this issue has been persistent throughout her career:

Ms. Weaver’s social media activity caused her problems in 2021, when the city’s public advocate, Jumaane Williams, nominated her for the planning commission and then withdrew her application.

“It was a lot of the same stuff being talked about now,” said Kalman Yeger, a state assemblyman and a conservative Democrat who served on the City Council at the time. “Weird home-ownership-is-white-supremacy stuff, seizing private property.”

Ms. Weaver “just seemed to be a bit too far out there,” he said.

StainlessSteelScorpion (talk) 01:32, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes, further to your point the existing article already had a reference to her twitter account "On her X account, she vocally supported the #CancelRent movement and supported residents participating in eviction blockades." bolstering your argument her twitter history is relevant. Lockrobster12 (talk) 01:42, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

WP:NOTFORUM The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

To be fair, as per World History, the concept of private property emerged via European trading in the 17th century, circa the invention of whiteness. It was also pretty foundational to settler colonialism in the United States, specifically the Dawes Act which imposed private property on Native Americans in 1887 to more efficiently grab what was then considered their land by the expanding United States. Perhaps this is what her tweets are alluding to. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 02:37, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Not only is this pseudohistorical nonsense - you can find the concept of private/personal property in Hammurabi's Code - it's completely irrelevant to improving this article. DiodotusNicator (talk) 04:25, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

If you believe this to be true re: private property, you are welcome to edit the multiple articles on private property and its relationship to settler-colonialism with reliable sources arguing your case. However, it is relevant in contextualizing her tweets if they are based in fact rather than opinion. You can also consult the article on structural racism as to the validity of these news source’s claims of anti-white bias. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 05:17, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Thankfully, I have no need to edit the article on private property, as the very first paragraph of the body details the presence of the concept in Mesopotamia: "he majority of legal documents from Mesopotamia, however, are overwhelmingly concerned with the proper disposition of what modern people would call 'property', with ensuring legal, unchallengeable, and fair treatment of individuals with property claims."

And again, this is completely irrelevant to this talk page. DiodotusNicator (talk) 05:20, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

The fact that the sentence right after that distinguishes Mesopotamian concepts of property with modern concepts of property is exactly why your accusations of pseudohistory are wrong. Capitalism and private property do not date back to ancient Mesopotamia. They originate factually in the Enlightenment, and in land enclosures in later stages of European feudalism.

Again it is relevant if some of what she is saying is true. Although as I say below, I believe that all of this is missing the forest for the trees. Persons having a controversies section is already in itself controversial, and it is not really appropriate for it to be as long as what she is actually notable for. One sentence about the controversy suffices in plenty of articles for figures less notable than she. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 05:31, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Private property simply does not originate in the Enlightenment. Modern, capitalist conceptions of property - that is something that you can find being argued by scholars. The first sentence is, again, pseudohistorical nonsense. I recommend Pipes, Property and Freedom or Silver, Economic Structures of Antiquity. I can quote from either if you'd like. DiodotusNicator (talk) 05:44, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

How is ancient Mesopotamia “modern”? Modern is traditionally defined as since year 1500. I acknowledge that I am not a scholar of the ancient world but at best private property was conceptualized in ancient Mesopotamia, went away, and then was rediscovered and recontextualized in the Enlightenment, and spread to the new world by settler-colonialism.

Further, private property as we see it demonstrably did not exist among the Lenape where New York City is currently located. This is really the core of what is relevant, as what I was talking about in the first place was United States settler-colonialism which I am very educated about and which you seem to know very little. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 06:02, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

"Rediscovered," lol. Do you realize the argument you are making is inherently Eurocentric, as it implies that civilizations across the world didn't independently formulate their own conceptions of private property rights?

Sharia#Property law or Qanun (law) - both provide citations with which you can educate yourself on historical Arabic conceptions of private property.

Accessio (Roman law)

Property_law_in_China#Imperial China

>How is ancient Mesopotamia “modern”?

The fact you interpreted my comment as implying this in any way signals to me that there is probably no point in continuing this discussion. DiodotusNicator (talk) 06:11, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

How does Sharia Law have anything to do with settler-colonialism in 1887? Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 06:16, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Your exact statement: "To be fair, as per World History [?], the concept of private property emerged via European trading in the 17th century, circa the invention of whiteness."

As I have detailed, you will not find a single scholar arguing such a thing. What you will find is scholars arguing that modern conceptions of private property were first articulated by Locke. DiodotusNicator (talk) 06:21, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

I am sorry for saying the concept of private property rather than the modern conception of private property, which is a distinction that I was not aware was completely necessary to make in an argument about, again, modern history. Antiquity is not my specialty, nor is it highly relevant in this conversation. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 06:25, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps you should refrain from making sweeping statements about economic history or property rights, then. DiodotusNicator (talk) 06:26, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

I was making statements about settler-colonialism’s relationship to property rights, including the displacement of the Lenape peoples from what is now New York in the 17th century and the further displacement of all native peoples in the continental United States by enforcing private property law onto them in the 19th century. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 06:29, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Consider reading the following excellent scholarly sources, since you seem to be interested in the topic:

Changes in the Land, Cronon's 1983 classic.

Property and Dispossession: Natives, Empires and Land in Early Modern North America, Greer 2018.

Native America, Discovered and Conquered, Miller 2006.

These works, if you choose to read them, will disabuse you of the notion that this process was as simple as how you are presenting it. You might also notice that none of them make such absurd claims as "the concept of private property emerged from European trading," or from "settler-colonialism," or any such argument. DiodotusNicator (talk) 06:43, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Have you actually read all three of these books or did you just do a quick google search to try and one-up me in this argument? All of these books are literally about Native conceptions of land and how they differ from Europeans. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 12:45, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

I was assigned all 3 in undergrad courses and wrote papers on Cronon and Miller. You have little to no understanding of this topic and should refrain from pretending as if you do. As I stated above: "You might also notice that none of them make such absurd claims as "the concept of private property emerged from European trading," or from "settler-colonialism," or any such argument." These are pseudohistorical claims that, at best, reduce the real scholarly arguments into muddled nonsense. DiodotusNicator (talk) 23:29, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Side note - my argument is “eurocentric” because Europeans are the peoples who settled the Americas. Whether or not other civilizations developed these concepts is outside of the realm of my knowledge and is both nitpicking what I said as an attempt to redirect the conversation away from settler-colonialism and is, again, arguing that capitalism emerged earlier than it did, which is simply incorrect. It is very easy to look at our current world and ask where the root of things emerged in the ancient world but perhaps more uncomfortable to acknowledge the direct forces that affect our lives today. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 06:22, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Reminder that primary sources do not meet the standard of WP:RS. A long tweet thread about someone’s problematic tweets is not up to standard as per policy WP:REPUTABLE: “Articles should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. This means that we publish only the analysis, views, and opinions of reliable authors, and not those of Wikipedians, who have read and interpreted primary source material for themselves.”

If the particular tweet listed within this Wikipedia article is not cited in a secondary source, then that is grounds for removal from the page as per extremely standard policy. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 02:32, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

In WP:NEWSWEEK it says that "consensus is to evaluate Newsweek content on a case-by-case basis." I would argue we should restore the Newsweek sources and content. StainlessSteelScorpion (talk) 04:54, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

I challenge this with: why? Exactly what purpose does it serve to list every single deleted tweet from a minor public official whose influence on public policy in the Mamdani administration is currently unknown? The criticism of her could be one sentence, and yet it recieves a section almost as long as what she is actually notable for. As she has expressed remorse for these posts on a public forum AND deleted them, it seems unreasonable and biased to have a section this long in the first place. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 05:13, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

"The criticism of her could be one sentence, and yet it recieves a section almost as long as what she is actually notable for."

It's because she's not "notable" for anything outside of her Mamdani appointment. She would not have a wikipedia article otherwise.

Her most "notable" achievement outside of this is serving on the DSA steering committee in 2019. I would love for you to find me any DSA steering committee members who also have their own wikipedia article. In fact, the actual committee itself doesn't even have an article here. Lockrobster12 (talk) 16:43, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Sorry to double reply, but my follow-up question to this why is wondering what exactly impact on her policy do you believe these problematic tweets will have? Do you believe that her tweets about homeownership will literally take away every house from white people in New York City? Do you believe that she has the power to literally drain the pockets of every middle-class person in the city? This is independent from whether these articles exist, because reporting on a new mayoral administration is famously ephemeral. Next year, how relevant do you believe this scandal will be? If it will be completely irrelevant, then featuring it now will be a pointless argument down the road that other editors will have to deal with. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 05:42, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

We are not here to prophesize. We are here to document the coverage of a topic by reliable sources. If I google "Cea Weaver" or "Zohran Mamdani" or "NYC mayor" as of January 7, 2026, I am greeted with a deluge of articles reporting on this specific controversy. This obviously meets WP:SIGCOV. DiodotusNicator (talk) 05:50, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Given that WP:SIGCOV mentions that the articles do not have to be primarily about the person, I personally recommend lengthening the sections on her past accomplishments in tenant’s rights as there was extensive coverage of the passing of Good Cause Eviction. I do not have time to do this, but the article as it is is incredibly unbalanced in favor of her tweets rather than the things she has actually done that merit an encyclopedia article. Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 06:07, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Newsweek is reliable regarding this article. Restore content. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:46, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Virtually all of the coverage of Weaver centers on her remarkably divisive social media posts rather than her unremarkable earlier career. In any case, the social media section is significantly whittled down now to refer to only her posts covered by major media publications. StainlessSteelScorpion (talk) 15:54, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

I agree that her social media activity is usable if sourced properly, as seems eminently possible. It is a primary reason for her notability. Coretheapple (talk) 16:52, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

"as there was extensive coverage of the passing of Good Cause Eviction."

There has been way, way more coverage of her recents tweets and appointment than anything she's done with the "good cause eviction" Lockrobster12 (talk) 16:59, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Good cause eviction did not pass. Coretheapple (talk) 17:57, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

It passed in April 2024. Day Creature (talk) 21:03, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. I stand corrected. Coretheapple (talk) 23:20, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Birthdate

is 19880921 Ryozzo (talk) 07:08, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

What's the source for that? There are rules governing use of birth dates but the threshold issue is sourcing. Coretheapple (talk) 16:58, 14 January 2026 (UTC)