Talk:After Midnight (Chappell Roan song)
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editHi - I have tagged this as AI-generated based on various indicators of LLM output. Source-to-text integrity spot check is not great.
Paste considered it one of the tracks that emphasize Roan's brilliance while delivering sexually suggestive lyrics
-- The review does not talk about "brilliance" or anything nearly as strong, let alone in the context of "After Midnight."Neil Z. Yeung from AllMusic praised the song as catchy for its funky production and heavy use of synthesizers
-- The review does not mention synthesizers in connection with this song; the quote "catchy, synth-laden anthems" refers to the album.
Other issues:
The lyrics explore Roan's experience with bisexuality
-- Chappell Roan does not identify as bisexual (the source got this wrong), claiming she does is WP:OR.In February 2025, Collider's Ryan Louis Mantilla deemed it one of Roan's best songs
-- This is not a critical review, it's an news post, and the "one of her best songs" part is a listing of like half the songs on the album.
Gnomingstuff (talk) 15:02, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Gnomingstuff:
- The Paste review says that "'Femininomenon' is followed quickly by a pair of songs that highlight how much Roan shines when she's singing freely about sex and desire". I do not mind replacing "Paste considered it one of the tracks that emphasize Roan's brilliance while delivering sexually suggestive lyrics" with "Paste considered it one of the tracks that 'highlight how much Roan shines when she's singing freely about sex and desire'", if you have an issue with the paraphrasing, but I would like to note that the GA reviewer wrote the Paste source "verifies the themes and the critic's opinion".
- The AllMusic review says that "[After 'Femininomenon'], it's a nonstop flood of catchy, synth-backed anthems that could lay waste to mainstream radio if given the chance" and then discusses the next two songs which include "After Midnight". How exactly is "catchy, synth-laden anthems" not referring to "After Midnight" when it is clearly referring to the songs that come after "Femininomenon"? As a side note, the GA reviewer wrote the AllMusic source "verifies the author's opinion".
- This is not WP:OR because the article reflects what is written in the source, but I have paraphrased this part to avoid confusion.
- Removed Collider as I understand the issue with Valnet's content farming.
- This is not a "fucking AI-generated GA". I have never used AI in my Wikipedia editing, and I had an extensive source-to-text integrity spot check for my first FA. This article also had a spot check by the GA reviewer, who reviewed the two sources above and passed them. Medxvo (talk) 17:12, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- The text shows the same hallmarks of AI writing that every other AI-generated article does (particularly those regarding critical reception sections), and that Wikipedia articles infrequently did before 2022 (when AI use was impossible.) If you used tools such as Grammarly, Copilot editing in Microsoft Word, etc., those are also AI and will produce the same problems.
- Regarding your points, the paraphrasing was not accurate to the source. Saying someone "shines when doing X" is a figure of speech and simply means that a person thinks they do X well. So, if a source doesn't call someone brilliant, Wikipedia doesn't call them brilliant. (WP:V) And if a source does call someone brilliant, then Wikipedia still does not talk about them "emphasizing their brilliance" as if it is a fact, but states that it is that person's opinion that the person is brilliant. But, again, the source does not state that. (WP:NPOV) Gnomingstuff (talk) 18:20, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- No, I did not use these or any other tools. This is a false accusation, but I have made some adjustments to the critical reception section based on your suggestions. Medxvo (talk) 18:55, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
that other song
editIf you're going to have this song, what about the J.J. Cale song that was popularized by Eric Clapton? I suspect that, over time and particularly as a catalog item, the Clapton recording is as or more popular. You have entire pages devoted to other less popular songs Clapton played on such as "Can't Find My Way Home" (by Blind Faith) and "Badge" (by Cream). ~2026-19496-19 (talk) 17:42, 29 March 2026 (UTC)