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Any reliable sources for Fate/Extra CCC?

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Right now it is a redirect. I don't see anything on MobyGames or Metacritic. Ja wiki has ja:Fate/EXTRA CCC with quite a few refs, but no reception section. If we can find enough sources to estabilish notability, I'll try to write something up. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:15, 26 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Siliconera has written a couple of (short) articles, which you've probably already seen: (among others).
Apparently, there's also coverage of CCC in TYPE-MOON Ace vol. 8, including interviews. I don't have a copy of the magazine to verify, though, and it's primary sourcing.
The closest I've seen to reception is this page. Make of it what you will... Beyond the sources in ja:Fate/EXTRA CCC, I haven't seen much else covering CCC. Kodning 🌸 (talk) 06:15, 27 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Famitsu's cross-review of it is available on their site: https://www.famitsu.com/game/title/24587/reviews --AlexandraIDV 08:17, 27 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, I remember reading about it back in the day after enjoying the first Fate/Extra, but I only really remember the short Siliconera blurb-type stuff Alexandra already linked above. The PSP was pretty much wrapping up by this point, and particularly in English-language regions.
The only additional source I found was that Rice Digital review, which is apparently situational as long as they're not reporting on things they have ties to, which I don't think they do to this game. Not a real strong review though either.
That said, it seems like there's been an increase in interest/article creations with Fate stuff lately, so maybe one of those editors will provide something better Sergecross73 msg me 12:24, 27 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! From what I know, the game was only available in Japanese, so if there are sources, they will be Japanese. Famitsu is a RS, I think. Do we have any Japanese speakers who could do a search for sources in Japanese? (These days I guess I can also ask AI, but they still inferior to people experts, who can find stuff in IA or such...). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:35, 27 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, it got an unofficial fan translation, but it happened so far after the fact (2023) that I think this Time Extension article is really the only RS that reported on it. Sergecross73 msg me 18:20, 27 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Alexandra IDV @Kodning @Sergecross73 Thank you all for the sources, I was able to write a decent article, I hope (feel free to take a look). Is there anything that suggests notability for Fate/Extella Link? That one doesn't even have a ja wiki stand-alone article, suprisingly enough. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:50, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Wow, the CCC article came together nicely. A cursory search of Link turned up good results, given it's a more recent game:
English:
Japanese:
Metacritic: Kodning 🌸 (talk) 06:53, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Kodning Thank you, I will work on the article using the sources you found over the coming weeks :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:06, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Kodning@Sergecross73 I will be starting work on Link shortly; in the meantime, can you see if the infobox in CCC I added is correct? I use Infobox animanga/Game but maybe Infobox video game is better? Or should both be used? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:10, 17 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The infobox looks fine. Which infobox to use seems like a matter of taste: most video game articles seem to use {{Infobox video game}} and only mention other media in the body; articles closer to WikiProject Anime and manga prefer to infobox all related media using {{Infobox animanga}}.
I'm partial toward the latter since I like infoboxes, but I can see the argument for the former given the CCC mangas aren't notable by themselves. I don't think it makes sense to use both styles, though, since {{Infobox animanga/Game}} is the intended template to be used with the manga ones. Kodning 🌸 (talk) 05:41, 17 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Kodning Thanks. I used the VG one for Link since as far as I can tell so far there are no related media (manga etc.) although I haven't done a deep dive into this yet. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:07, 17 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Ex illis

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This has been tagged for notability concerns for 13 years. Please add reliable sources, or consider going to WP:AfD for merger or deletion. Bearian (talk) 19:23, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Echoing the remarks from the other thread, could you not have dealt with it yourself? toby in solidarity 19:26, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Bearian: Not only is this something you can do yourself, this page arguably doesn't even fall under this WikiProject. It looks like this more falls under board game / miniatures. Respectfully, if you don't care to do this yourself, why do you think anyone here should either. 13akoors (talk) 22:27, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
FWIW, I've sourced about 250 articles in the past three months, and I don't know much about games to be able to evaluate what's a reliable source or not. That's why I asked for help. Bearian (talk) 22:44, 3 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
A quick google search is often sufficient for WP:BEFORE. You don't need to be familiar with the field-specific literature in order to bring an article to AfD. Other people can try to dig up specialist sources there if they exist :) ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:46, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I've done a quick search with my sources (see User:Vacant0/Sources#Board_games) and nothing popped out. Like, literally nothing. I think it's safe to say that it can be AfD'ed. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:29, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
In the interest of WP:BEBOLD I have AfD'd it, but I have to echo the concerns that A) this does NOT belong in WikiProject Video Games, so posting things like this here is disruptive, and B) making others do AfDs can be seen as discourteous and poor Wikiquette as you are basically handing off responsibility to them if the AfD fails. It is not a good look, and you should be doing the AfD yourself or leaving well enough alone if you aren't sure. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:36, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Minor technical note that you should've also posted to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Board and table games... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:55, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you @Piotrus but for clarification to @Bearian they should only make a notice about tabletop games at WP Board and Table Games, because WP Video Games is not the correct place for this at all, as noted by users above. BOZ (talk) 20:35, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Trout received. Bearian (talk) 21:35, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Spoilers in article leads

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Is it appropriate to directly disclose a significant twist in the lead of a narrative game largely about that twist?

I'd like to resolve a difference of opinion with @~2026-16455-78 on the article And Roger in which we've made conflicting edits (see ) on whether to directly identify the game as one about dementia. In the end, the edit conflicts are more focused now on whether to mention this in the lead or not; the IP user has currently concealed it using a wikilink. I have mentioned the reveal of the character having dementia there as I think it's the defining narrative element and theme of the game and WP:SPOILER suggests not trying to conceal a plot element for a prospective player's benefit. The IP user, if I can paraphrase this colourful edit, considers this unnecessary disclosure and a highly compromising thing to reveal for a one-hour mystery game. Appreciate any thoughts on this. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 23:06, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I mean WP:SPOILER seems pretty clear to me. If that's what's notable about the game, that's what's notable about the game. It's our job to document encyclopedic information, not sell video games. I'd say I'd probably try to bury it deep enough into the lead so that it doesn't show up in page previews but that's about it. As a reference, Doki Doki Literature Club has a pretty infamous spoiler that is explicitedly in the lead but tucked at the bottom of the first paragraph. Whipmywillows (talk) 23:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Seems like a good best practice. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks all that have participated. Sounds like the best way forward is to revert, but also be mindful of framing and maybe add a gameplay sentence to back-load the summary of the narrative, and not start with it. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 02:02, 6 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'd actually be against in the lead only since many might read it before playing it. It should explain a little bit more than promotional material but not explain the ending or plot twist unless it received individual coverage. — Dissident93 (talk) 03:04, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
It did receive individual coverage: every review cited in the article opens by discussing the twist and that it makes spoilers difficult. Kotaku and Aftermath disclose the nature of that twist directly. It is not spoiling for the sake of it; it's the single most identifiable aspect of the game's narrative, themes, and reception. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 04:57, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I sometimes try to avoid a spoiler in the lead by not addressing it, without clearly stating what it is. instead of saying "Luke finds out Darth Vader is his father" in the Empire Strikes Back article, it says "Set three years after the events of Star Wars, the film recounts the battle between the malevolent Galactic Empire, led by the Emperor, and the Rebel Alliance, led by Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia. As the Empire goes on the offensive, Luke trains to master the Force so he can confront the Emperor's powerful disciple, Darth Vader" this does give the reader an idea of the story without "spoiling it" but also not really hiding what the basic premise of the story is. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:14, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Vertigo Games

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Latest comment: 9 days ago7 comments7 people in discussion

One of the biggest VR developers in the business (https://www.pcgamer.com/games/vr/one-of-the-biggest-vr-developers-in-the-business-closes-a-studio-the-vr-market-remains-a-challenging-space/) is a forever-redlinked for being "non-notable". ~2026-33760-55 (talk) 20:15, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Do you think that it's notability status has changed since 2015? Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
There's certainly room for a reevaluation after 11 years. The company has been around for a while and Embracer Group's acquisition in 2020 seems to have triggered more coverage. The title definitely shouldn't be salted. IceWelder [✉] 20:29, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
It had been very "notable" before 2020 too (https://variety.com/2019/gaming/features/vertigo-games-believes-location-based-virtual-reality-is-future-of-vr-1203170003/).
I would note that the user who salted the article is now deceased. I guess the reason why it was salted was due to having several entries in the deletion log, but I guess this is now notable. JuniperChill (talk) 20:41, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
If this happened a year or two later, I imagine that it would have been extended-confirmed protected rather than fully protected. Probably good enough basis to go to WP:RPP/D. ScalarFactor (talk) 20:51, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Looks like this one may have got caught in the crossfire of a different Vertigo Games making Game Maker games which seems to have been repeatedly creating a bunch of WP:SPAM. Still full protection is absolutely unneccesary. Whipmywillows (talk) 21:34, 8 June 2026 (UTC
It should at the very least be a redirect to Embracer Group. OceanHok (talk) 01:10, 9 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Unsalted, do as you wish. --PresN 02:13, 9 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Fae Farm GAN

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Seeing as the original GAN reviewer of Fae Farm hasn't edited for more than a couple of weeks, and the secondary one is on a wikibreak, and the fact that it is currently the oldest GAN in the video games section (been marked as under review since 18 Feb(, I would like someone new to finish it off. JuniperChill (talk) 20:17, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@JuniperChill I can do it. -- ZooBlazer 17:16, 9 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
thank you ZooBlaster! JuniperChill (talk) 17:33, 9 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

How to name this category?

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Before I create it, I wanted to ask for best practices in naming. I am talking about a video game category for the video games listed in Category:Fan translation (there are many more examples in Fan translation of video games, which is not comprehensive anyway). Category:Fan translated video games, with Fan translation of video games being its main article and relevant categories moved to the new category from that article? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:10, 9 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Requested move discussion

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A requested move discussion has been opened at talk page on whether Senua (video game) should be moved to Senua. VG community is invited to participate in the discussion. Thanks! Umais🗣 08:30, 9 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Are Sports games Fighting games?

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Latest comment: 6 days ago8 comments3 people in discussion

Good evening, all. I'm currently working on a revamp of List of fighting games to convert it to a table structure. Current work is at User:13akoors/List of fighting games, for reference

While working on this page, I noticed that the vast majority of the items in the "Sports (combat) subgenres" section are not listed anywhere else on the page (295 out of the approx 305 games in this section). This led me down a rabbit hole of trying to figure out if these games even qualify as Fighting games.

The Fighting game page seems to indicate they shouldn't be, saying boxing games, mixed martial arts games, and wrestling games are often described as distinct genres, without comparison to fighting games, and belong more in the sports game genre. This is in line with what I've always thought, but the references on this statement say nothing like this, and I couldn't find anything like this online with a cursory search.

Does anyone have any guidance on whether these games should be treated as Fighting games, and how I should proceed with this page cleanup? 13akoors (talk) 00:21, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I'm sure we could look up a lineage of it online, but generally games that are boxing or wrestling games are more close to the sports simulation games and less adapt to games that drew from the Street Fighter 2 mold. I'd try a basic google books search to clarify this but genres are often finnicky and some people apply rules that others do not. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:10, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I agree that boxing and wrestling games tend to be more heavily inspired by their real life sports than Street Fighter II. My concern would be everything that came before SFII, so Karate Champ, Yie Ar Kung Fu, Street Fighter I, etc. My experience tells me these often look superficially similar to modern fighting games but don't play very similarly at all (There's often a heavy focus on single-player, minimal or no versus mode, no character selection, unsophisticated defensive play, etc.) These are often still called fighting games but I find it hard to come up with a reason why Karate Champ for example isn't a sports game, it's quite literally a simulation of competitive karate. I also find it very hard to come up with a reason why Punch Out wouldn't be included in this same category, it essentially shares the same format as Yie Ar Kung Fu but with an over the shoulder perspective.
My personal feeling is that combat sports games should be on the list but separated out as they currently are. But I would love for these early progenitors to either have their own section, "Proto-fighting games" or something like that or filtered into the combat sports section. I can go hunt to see if someone's published a book on the subject to justify this. Whipmywillows (talk) 18:48, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
That would definitely be helpful. I was struggling to find anything when searching, so even a solid link would help. 13akoors (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I found some sources and a self-published book . Most of which seem to disagree with me, they say Karate Champ is definitely a fighting game (Sometimes the first fighting game, though I'd question why something like Heavyweight Champ doesn't count). If you're including dates then I don't have that much of a problem with it, either that or split it into "Early" fighting games and "Versus" fighting games.
Here's a good source: GMR September 2008 on page 52, "Punch Drunk Love". Also disagrees with me. Whipmywillows (talk) 19:13, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I've put together a quick incomplete list of early fighting games that I'll probably keep adding to, User:Whipmywillows/sandbox/Pre-1991 fighting games. I don't think it should be that hard to figure out what is or isn't a fighting game past 1991, and that time period isn't really my area of expertise anyway. I also found this fantastic list from Hardcore Gaming 101, doesn't look much like a reliable source to me but it is on our list. Whipmywillows (talk) 20:29, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'm always a bit iffy on calling anything "proto-____" it sort of implies that the fighting game genre was inevitable, which isn't the case. (It's hard to imagine a video game world where Street Fighter II never happened though!) I would just try to find sources that go into detail about a game being a fighting game instead of us presuming it has to be one. There's definitely a before and after when Street Fighter II set the mold for these games, so it becomes complicated. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:13, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the assist, everyone. I'll look into the sources this week. 13akoors (talk) 22:04, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Resident Evil game title format in the template

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Given the attempt to start an edit war while ignoring the discussion, I'll repost the thread link here. I'm not advocating for one option or another, I'm just tired of watching people constantly change the "full game titles" format to "abbreviations only" (for examole, Resident Evil Zero vs Zero) and back again without any discussion. Solaire the knight (talk) 00:34, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

PCGamingWiki template

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Hi everyone,

Thoughts on {{PCGamingWiki}}? I xfd'ed it nearly two years ago. For those not familiar, PCGamingWiki is a wiki for PC gaming. Shock, huh? It helps PC players fix issues, that kind of stuff. I feel this was (and still is) an ELNO regardless, so the template is not needed. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 17:24, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Anybody? No? Dust. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 06:41, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I personally believe most wikis/wikias should not be linked in EL at all, even large established Fandoms. The few times I have personally ended up at PCGamingWiki, I've found it's presentation difficult to navigate and information outdated or jumbled. However, I'm pretty sure another TFD will have the same result because the community at large still accepts the presence of any long running wiki. -- ferret (talk) 12:57, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Requested move at Talk:History of Eastern role-playing video games#Requested move 25 May 2026

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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:History of Eastern role-playing video games#Requested move 25 May 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 02:10, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Requested move at Talk:Hasbro Interactive#Requested move 1 June 2026

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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Hasbro Interactive#Requested move 1 June 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 05:18, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

New Articles (June 1 to June 14)

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 A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.23 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. --PresN 14:58, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

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Out of town last week, so double-update. --PresN 14:58, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Homebrew lists

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The lists I work with frequently often have these long tails of aftermarket and homebrew games, it seems new editors love to add them. Here are some examples for the NES, Atari 2600, and the Atari 7800. Problem is they tend to be very poorly sourced. I'd say the average amount of WP:RS added by any given editor to be about zero. These games also tend to be highly derivative (some might call them unlicensed clones) and I personally would question their notability. I know the benchmark for list additions is not WP:GNG but my experience has been RS coverage for these tends to be pretty slim. I have zero interest in sorting through these to figure out what's notable and what isn't but it seems like no one who edits them wants to either. Shouldn't we be demanding higher standards for these? I'm worried about WP:PROMOTION concerns.

An added wrinkle is that my favorite company in the whole wide world Atari SA recently bought out AtariAge, the fan website that hosts a number of these homebrew games for sale. AtariAge still sells the same games even after the acquisition which leaves these titles in an unclear limbo of officiality. I don't know the full legal story here but it is a headache. You can see the Atari 7800 list for an attempt someone made at detangling this.

Anyway, I would like to come up with some standard for what gets included and what doesn't that can be enforced and isn't too WP:BITEY. Wonder if anyone else has some thoughts. Whipmywillows (talk) 16:06, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

In articles I maintain, I generally remove them for the same reason - they're usually quite difficult to comprehensively source with reliable sources. You can usually find sources for more well-known ones like Somari, but not for the other 99% of the lists... Sergecross73 msg me 16:38, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
anything user created should require a third party source. List of Source mods is kept only to those with their own article or a third party source. Masem (t) 16:50, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'm wondering if we could create a similar sort of list for all of these. List of homebrew games or probably more usefully List of aftermarket home console games. Clearly there's some notable games here, Serge mentioned Somari, my punching bag was gonna be Halo 2600 until I realized it actually had a pretty decent article. My personal feeling is that all of these have more in common with each other than they do with the platforms their attached to. I feel like 90% of these are someone going "what if my favorite video game was on an older console" which is a pretty neat hobby project but should only be on the website if other media thought it was worth talking about. Condensing it down to one list might make it easier to maintain. Whipmywillows (talk) 17:03, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I wouldn't be opposed to the list as long as it had strong inclusion criteria, like requiring a stand alone article, or at least a third party reliable source reporting on it. The latter at least helps keep the junk entries out of the unofficial Sonic media article, though it does require constant monitoring. Sergecross73 msg me 17:36, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Only problem is I already have too many of my own projects to spend a lot of time on it. Moving what's already sourced and there probably wouldn't take too long but I wouldn't want to go through all the unsourced stuff without help. Whipmywillows (talk) 18:21, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
There's no rush. You can always wait until you have the time. Or start a WP:DRAFT and work on it when you have time, and/or share it here if you'd like others to chip in when they can if they're interested. Sergecross73 msg me 19:16, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
That would be a good idea with consoles like the Vectrex, as there is a TON of homebrew titles for it, compared to the number of official releases the console had during its heyday. Roberth Martinez (talk) 17:10, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I would recommend making a separate list for it if there are enough sources out there. That's what i did with the list of homebrew titles for the Atari Jaguar and Net Yaroze. Roberth Martinez (talk) 17:05, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Time Extension has been getting some crazy interviews

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Time Extension has been getting some super high profile interviews with lots of older designers and localizers in the industry. I've added a few as refideas on various articles in my wheelhouse but I imagine there's at least one of interest to each of you here. Cheers, Axem Titanium (talk) 08:31, 16 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Agree and recommend this site. It's come up a few times and glad it's been identified as an RS. The investigative and interview work is fantastic and has strongly supported drafting of articles like Barbie which you'd never think would have enough material to make to a GA standard. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 00:51, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
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