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Notifications on duplicate template arguments
editPlease refrain from placing talk page messages on minor issues on editors talk pages. Assume the editors made a mistake in good faith. If you see a basic mistake, made in error, than fix it and move on without leaving pestering notices. Duplicate template argument can be made on accident, even with doing preview checks. Placing messages like that on seasoned editors pages in particular comes across as rude and WP:POINTY. We all know how to use the preview button.4meter4 (talk) 01:04, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- If you choose to be offended by the fact that another editor took the time to both fix your error AND to notify you about said error, that is on you. No one ever said you did anything in bad faith. That very standard user warning is just a reminder and a notification about the error. Again, if you choose to get offended about about it that is your problem not mine. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 04:46, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- Please quit with the notices on my talk page.4meter4 (talk) 17:35, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- Please abide by them. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:35, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- I have my own editing practices, which I have been doing for a very long time. I am not going to change them, and I am not interested in dealing with you further. Thank you for any copy edits, but frankly I am article building and would have fixed these errors given time. You are choosing to interrupt a work in progress, and make unhelpful obvious suggestions. This is both condescending and irritating. Go bother someone else. If this continues, we may need to have a discussion about WP:HOUNDING.4meter4 (talk) 17:41, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- If you want to open a Hounding discussion go right ahead. You have no argument given the number of editors I am interacting with but please, go right ahead. If you don't want to be warned about breaking pages, then maybe stop breaking pages? Threats about opening a discussion will go nowhere and are a waste of time. This is very simple. Abide by wikipedia policy about checking your edits for errors and using edit summaries and you won't hear from me again. Continue to break pages as you have been, and you, just like any other editor on here, will continue to hear from me.
- Let me be clear, I am not WP:HOUNDING you by checking your edits exclusively. Pages you edit keep ending up in Category:Articles using duplicate arguments in template calls because you are not bothering to check for blatantly obvious mistakes such as this. Your
editing practices, which [you] have been doing for a very long time
obviously don't work. Also you should definitely go read WP:HOUNDING because leaving a grand total of TWO messages on your talk page is no where in the realm of hounding. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:47, 3 June 2026 (UTC)- Let's be clear here, I've already communicated to you that I find your interactions distressing, and you have continued to leave messages on my talk page when requested not to. If an editor has clearly communicated distress about your communication style, and you persist, that is hounding behavior that falls under harassment. I do my best not to make errors when I edit, and the vast majority of my edits don't have errors. Occasionally I make a mistake. Picking on editors for minor mistakes and leaving messages over easily fixed problems is a behavioral problem. Just fix the mistake and move on. Nobody is intending to intentionally put in a broken template, and as I've stated, you are interrupting me in the middle of article building before I even have had time to go back and copy edit. 4meter4 (talk) 17:55, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- Yea that isn't how this works bud. You cannot claim hounding because you keep doing things wrong and being told so. Based on that bizarre argument an editor could insert spam into an article and claim they "feel distressed" by warnings of vandalism.
- I am moving on to other projects. Let ME be clear:
- I am constantly checking for duplicate arguments in template calls. When a page ends up there I notify the editor who performed the edit (whether they have 1 edit or 1 million edits). This I did to you ONE TIME as you inserted duplicate arguments.
- I also notified you that you often don't use an edit summary. as nearly 50% of your edits have zero summary at all.
- Both the above are verified facts.
- You are blowing up my talk page with your complaining. Frankly, based on your logic, I feel hounded by you! Your constant complaining and threats to raise discussion of hounding (an obvious allusion to ANI) are highly distressing to me so I ask you to stop leaving messages on my talk page as you are, based on your own logic, hounding me.
- Any further complaints by you on my talk page will be deleted and ignored just as you have deleted and ignored both templated messages I left on your talk page. So, using your very own arguments, walk away and leave me alone. Do not hound me further about the errors YOU made. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:02, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- For anyone else reading this, and for future documentation, this tread shows how this conversation can (and should) go when the editor doesn't get offended and
distressed
by a simple courtesy reminder. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:42, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- For anyone else reading this, and for future documentation, this tread shows how this conversation can (and should) go when the editor doesn't get offended and
- Let's be clear here, I've already communicated to you that I find your interactions distressing, and you have continued to leave messages on my talk page when requested not to. If an editor has clearly communicated distress about your communication style, and you persist, that is hounding behavior that falls under harassment. I do my best not to make errors when I edit, and the vast majority of my edits don't have errors. Occasionally I make a mistake. Picking on editors for minor mistakes and leaving messages over easily fixed problems is a behavioral problem. Just fix the mistake and move on. Nobody is intending to intentionally put in a broken template, and as I've stated, you are interrupting me in the middle of article building before I even have had time to go back and copy edit. 4meter4 (talk) 17:55, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- I have my own editing practices, which I have been doing for a very long time. I am not going to change them, and I am not interested in dealing with you further. Thank you for any copy edits, but frankly I am article building and would have fixed these errors given time. You are choosing to interrupt a work in progress, and make unhelpful obvious suggestions. This is both condescending and irritating. Go bother someone else. If this continues, we may need to have a discussion about WP:HOUNDING.4meter4 (talk) 17:41, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- Please abide by them. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:35, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- Please quit with the notices on my talk page.4meter4 (talk) 17:35, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
Rutsel Martha
editI have verified information, allow me to make the edits. The information you have provided is incomplete. I am related to the deceased and it is important the information is correct to honour his legacy. Thanks. 678JW (talk) 23:45, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- You have been reverted by 3 different editors as none of your edits contain any sources. Additionally your comment above indicates you have a very clear WP:COI and should not be editing this page anyway. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:47, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Hello Zackmann08, please look at the final/last 1/3 of the infobox before and after your edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stony_Brook_Southampton&oldid=prev&diff=1358154936. Before your edit, the last 1/3 of the infobox is a open street map image that (hopefully) shows the geo location of Stony Brook Southampton. After your edit, the final 1/3 of the infobox reads "Lua error in Module:Mapframe at line 398: Unable to get latitude from input '82 acres (330,000 m2)'..". I do not think your edit is an improvement. However, i do not really understand the syntax of the entry "coor" in the template:Infobox university. It is quite probable that the old version that i did partially restore is only a little better than yours and also needs improvement. Thank you in advance --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 12:54, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Facepalm This is why I shouldn't edit while tired... Special:Diff/1358255795/1358257989 shows the solution. The value being supplied to |coor=was NOT in fact the coordinates, but the size of the campus... Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:18, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, i think this thread is solved/done. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 20:08, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
edit| The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
| For your tireless contributions and assistance to all who need it. Thank you. In solidarity Dafootballguy Want to talk? 23:46, 7 June 2026 (UTC) |
- You are very kind! Thank you!!! Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:45, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
Admin noticeboard discussion started
editI've started WP:ANI#Unnecessary template "cleanup" cluttering watchlists and recent changes. Your input there is welcome. Fram (talk) 19:52, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
- Next time, I would encourage you to at least attempt to continue the conversation before immediately jumping directly to filing an ANI. I get that my last comment on the initial thread was interpreted by you as me attempting to end the conversation, but it took you less than 2 minutes to file an ANI after I posted that comment so clearly your ANI was already in the works. A little bit more research on your part into the issue at hand and a better understanding of Template code that you, a TPE should really have, and this could have all been avoided. Gonnym said it best,
ANI should not be opened for "I don't like these edits" issues
. ANI is forurgent incidents and chronic, intractable behavioral problems
. Perhaps a review of the "Before posting" section of WP:ANI would help you in the future. Happy editing. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:07, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
Replacing deleted editnotice templates
editHey @Zackmann08, would you mind if I replaced the editnotice pages that are currently being deleted to use an alternative, instead of immediately G6-ing them? I think there should still be editnotices on those pages, as the nomination objected simply to the hard-coded instances. Otherwise I'd also be fine with just creating them again. Sorry for not getting in touch a bit earlier here. Best, Staraction (talk · contribs) 05:44, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Staraction: Honestly, no opinion on this. I'm just following the TFD process here. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 15:26, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- No worries, I understand. They've already been deleted and many things are now broken, but I'll work to fix them in the next day or so. Thanks for your TfD work. Best, Staraction (talk · contribs) 15:27, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
Many things are now broken
. Can you say more? What is broken? I want to make sure I don't cause more issues... Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 15:35, 11 June 2026 (UTC)- Hey, sorry that I missed this, it looks like you've already found the thread on Izno's talk though. Best, Staraction (talk · contribs) 02:07, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- No worries, I understand. They've already been deleted and many things are now broken, but I'll work to fix them in the next day or so. Thanks for your TfD work. Best, Staraction (talk · contribs) 15:27, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
Why are you delete my edits
editwhy r you delete my edits Denrateck (talk) 17:09, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- Both my edit summary and the message I left on your talk page clearly explain why... Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:13, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
Suggestion on Edit in Article Jaspal Rana
editHi User:Zackmann08. Thanks for your inputs for my edit in the article Jaspal Rana. I have observed your feedback and made the changes accordingly. Gardenkur (talk) 11:35, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
Help (2)
editContext: User talk:Zackmann08/Archive 19#Help
The same editor (judging by the edit patterns) did it again here ~2026-32016-21
~2026-34797-85 (talk) 16:44, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with you but I am not an admin. You need to talk to an admin or file an WP:ANI. I cannot block this user. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:20, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
Better use of tools
editRegarding your JWB edits resulting from this TFD, you should consider using User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster if all that is needed is to subst a template. Save you some time. Primefac (talk) 01:00, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
- Good tip! Thank you! Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:03, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
Your one million minor fixes are admirable, thank you for your work. I enhanced this article by adding an image from Commons which no one else could be bothered to do. We are supposed to support a collaborative environment here. Instead of pasting ungracious comments on the talk pages of veteran editors, could you please be somewhat more cordial and selective with your 'warnings' , or ask the curator of Twinkle to adjust the tone of the templates. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:51, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
- Or, you could be less hurt when someone both takes the time to fix your error AND notify you of the issue. How on earth can you find that message un cordial? No one is insulting your edits, unlike your clear sarcastic comment about my
one million minor fixes
. Don't like being notified about an error? Maybe don't make them. Surely someone with your editing experience should know by now that thumbnails don't go in Infoboxes. That is very rookie type of error. I say this with all sincerity, take your complaints elsewhere. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 03:57, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
- I might have thanked you for making that fix. Correcting and pointing out a 'rookie' error is one thing; some of us have been around so long and editing regulary that where our focus is not policing the project for small fixes, we can very innocently forget a very minor MoS feature. The tone of your self-made user warning templates is another. Your post above comes even closer to an instance of inappropriate communication. In future, please consider trying something less accusatory such as "Hi, I just fixed the syntax of an image you added to an infobox. There's no need to use the 'file' tag in infoboxes. See MOS:IBI". See the difference? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:17, 13 June 2026 (UTC).
- Z – I'm going to have to agree with Kudpung here. I encourage you to do a bit more AGF when people come to you with complaints. Putting wording like "take your complaints elsewhere" and "rookie type of error" in your initial response to a question or comment, no matter how that question or comment is worded, starts things off on the wrong foot. Complaining in your initial response about someone's overuse of bold text instead of simply ignoring it and responding to their actual question (as I saw elsewhere recently) also starts off the conversation in a combative way rather than in an AGF way that assumes people are coming to you for help with actual problems.
- I learned from working in customer service that only one in ten people, or fewer, who are experiencing a technical issue will bother to complain about it or report it. I tried to develop a culture in my work team of expressing gratitude to people who reported problems, even if they reported them in ways that were incomplete, incoherent, aggressive, or otherwise unpleasant. Just their taking the time to report a problem was something that we were grateful for, since it meant that we could fix something that was no doubt broken for many other people. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:23, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
- Let us be clear here, this entire thread boils down to Kudpung complaining about WP:DTTR. This is something I have never understood. If I make a mistake (which Jonesey95 know's I often do) and someone takes the time to not only fix my mistake, but to also notify me of the mistake that I made, I cannot fathom being irritated that they chose to use a template to do so. I don't care if you have 1 edit or 10 million. A mistake is a mistake and a gentle reminder is a gentle reminder. What you are saying is that I should have written a different message than I use on other editors because you are more experienced than the average Joe who makes this mistake. I would counter that if you were truly more experienced, you would not have made such a glaring error (this is not just a typo but a complete misuse of code) and how am I to know you are more experienced? What you are asking is that I fix your mistake, then come notify you but before I notify you, first check your edit count and make a decision as to whether to leave you a custom reminder message or to use my templated gentle reminder explaining the error.
- Another important point here is that NOTHING in my initial message said anything about this being a rookie mistake. I simply explained the error. You are the one who is taking offense that your error was both pointed out and corrected. Seems like you are feeling a bit embarrassed about the error you made and perhaps are lashing out? NOTHING in my initial message shows a lack of good faith. In fact it both starts and ends by thanking you for your contributions.
- Additionally to somehow claim victimhood when you were the one who escalated this by not replying to the post on your own talk page as is standard practice, but by coming here to complain with obviously and overtly sarcastic comments such as commenting on my
one million minor fixes
. Make no mistake, this was an obvious attempt to place yourself above me as you clearly think my edits are not as valuable as yours. Don't try to pass this off as anything else. - If you took offense to my good faith explanation on your talk page, I am sorry that you took the comments that way. My intent was purely to notify you of an error. There was zero attempt to imply you were inept or had made some horrific mistake that warranted a huge discussion. It was simply a notification that when you add an image to an Infobox, that is the proper way to do so. Not sure why you are making such a big deal out of it. In the future, if an editor leaves you a comment that you don't like, I would also remind you that you are free to simply ignore it. NO ONE is requiring you to respond in any way. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:02, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
- Zackmann08: I am unable to interpret
one million minor fixes
as clearly and unambiguously sarcastic. I did not read it that way when I first read the message. Plain text written prose lacks the nuance that spoken text can have, so it is subject to misinterpretation. AGF encourages us to assume good intent rather than reading an ambiguous statement in a negative way. Kudpung came here with two possibly helpful suggestions, specificallyplease be somewhat more cordial and selective with your 'warnings' , or ask the curator of Twinkle to adjust the tone of the templates
, and you insulted them, and assumed without evidence that they were hurt, and assumed that they were being sarcastic. You also denied their stated experience (How on earth...
) of finding the Twinkle message ungracious, which is basically the definition of gaslighting, and then you told them totake your complaints elsewhere
, even though going to editors' user talk pages to discuss their edits is explicitly part of our guidelines. I don't see how this behavior is conducive to building an encyclopedia. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:51, 13 June 2026 (UTC)- Jonesey95 you and I have worked together on a lot of projects. Probably no editor I respect more than you. Lord knows your have corrected me/fixed my
rookie mistakes
(MY words, not yours) numerous times. Know that your feedback is greatly appreciated. Not going to go point by point here, but I hear you. Don't agree with every word you've said, but know that I hear you and will continue to do better. Going to think this over some more, come back and re-read this again later and see if there aren't some changes to my workflow I should make. Thanks for the feedback. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:58, 13 June 2026 (UTC)- Thumbs up to all of that. We can all do better. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:21, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
- Jonesey95 you and I have worked together on a lot of projects. Probably no editor I respect more than you. Lord knows your have corrected me/fixed my
- Zackmann08: I am unable to interpret
- I might have thanked you for making that fix. Correcting and pointing out a 'rookie' error is one thing; some of us have been around so long and editing regulary that where our focus is not policing the project for small fixes, we can very innocently forget a very minor MoS feature. The tone of your self-made user warning templates is another. Your post above comes even closer to an instance of inappropriate communication. In future, please consider trying something less accusatory such as "Hi, I just fixed the syntax of an image you added to an infobox. There's no need to use the 'file' tag in infoboxes. See MOS:IBI". See the difference? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:17, 13 June 2026 (UTC).
sorry about that. I think i must have hit enter too soon!
the article's in a bit of a state isn't it. I was surprised to discover it survived an AFD as having been vastly improved some years ago - what it must have been like before! Morwen (talk) 19:25, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- All good!! Keep up the good work. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:26, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
Infobox Building Template
editI thought it was probably better if we start again. My apologies for causing you any distress.
If I have an attitude problem, it is probably bourne out of the frustration I feel, with things being changed for no apparent reason. I'm a reasonable chap normally.
I know you've put a lot of work into this template, although I don't necessarily understand what drives your need to change stuff.
1. As previously stated, Location and Address are two different things. There are two parameters to fill in. It used to work. It doesn't now.
2. Why should I now need to change every page to "pushpin_map_caption=" when "map_caption" should be perfectly adequate, and used to work well?
MartinOjsyork (talk) 20:34, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- Appreciate your desire to start over. Let's keep the conversation on Template talk:Infobox building to avoid WP:MULTI. Standby a moment I will respond there. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:38, 14 June 2026 (UTC)