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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022

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Nativity of John the Baptist

An undiscussed move of this wasn't a good idea. The article is about a church feast day, & normally has the "Saint". For God's sake don't start taking this line with paintings. Birth of John the Baptist is an event, Nativity of Saint John the Baptist something else. Johnbod (talk) 01:11, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

The article itself used "Nativity of John the Baptist", which sounds more normal for me. Perhaps its a regional thing, or perhaps its subject-matter dependent. The history books seem to prefer no "saint" for the feast day. Srnec (talk) 21:39, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Rodrigo Vázquez

Hello Srnec, glad to hear from you. What I have documented is that Rodrigo Vázquez, son of count Vasco (Velasco) Sánchez and Urraca Viegas, died in 1198 in the battle of Ervas Tenras, and married Toda Palazín (daughter of Palacín de Alagón) who most likely accompanied Dulce de Aragón when she married Sancho I of Portugal. I only have two daughters from this marriage: María (married to Ximeno de Urrea) and Teresa Rodríguez de Barbosa (married to Gómez Suárez de Tougues). One of the sources is this article by Sottomayor Pizarro, p. 222], also see notes 33 and 34, p. 231. Hope this helps. Regards, --Maragm (talk) 21:37, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Maragm! Looks like Suero is unrelated. I will add this information to the Velasco page. Srnec (talk) 21:59, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Greetings Srnec

I have included a list for some articles that still have no pages. Hence, I would like to ask if you can please have a look at it and help to turn all the reds to blues if possible. Regards. Alas2022 (talk) 20:20, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I will have a look. Srnec (talk) 00:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Second Apocalypse of John

On 12 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Second Apocalypse of John, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Second Apocalypse of John paints a picture of the Last Judgement in which Christian emperors are driven like slaves and racial discrimination is no more? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Second Apocalypse of John. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Second Apocalypse of John), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Is the misspelled word "apperance" in the original quote? In the same paragraph with the correct spelling "appearance"? Shenme (talk) 02:10, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Seems a typo: correct seen at Shenme (talk) 02:19, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

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Axis Powers

Hi Srnec, just wanted to explain my edit. Considering it had been listed as Tripartite Signers per yours and another user’s recommendation, and has been that way for 5 years, I figured some sort of consensus or discussion was warranted as was always asked whenever major changes are made. Why is this time different however. Tripart seemed like a neutral way to describe states that weren’t necessarily all powers but definitely allies of the main Axis powers. For example when a user wanted to add a sub category for puppet states that were acis aligned, they were required consensus and reverted by a single editor. I mean “Other Axis States” makes sense. Better than powers. Just wondering about the change of edit requirements. Cheers and thanks for your edit. OyMosby (talk) 14:28, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

My edit was based on past discussions, especially in Archive 10. I think consensus was to avoid "Tripartite", "co-belligerent" and "puppet" designations in the infobox and to distinguish only between the "major" Axis powers and the rest. I'm not sure there was consensus on exactly what to call the rest beyond "other". Srnec (talk) 21:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

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The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022

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DYK for Storia de Mahometh

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DYK for Pedro Tenorio (archbishop)

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Hungaro-Ukrainian War

If "Hungaro-Ukrainian War" is unknown in English why did you moved article without updaing lead, infobox and Wikidata? Don't move pages without updating lead, infobox and Wikidata. Eurohunter (talk) 23:36, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Disambig

Hello I wanted to ask your reasoning for creating a WP:D Werner of Steusslingen with just one category? Can a hatnote suffice? Bruxton (talk) 21:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

I created it to head off any attempt to move the blue-linked article to Werner of Steusslingen on the mistaken assumption that it was unambiguous. The German Wiki has a dab page, so I assumed that there isn't a primary topic. Since the other page is red-linked, a hatnote won't work right now. Srnec (talk) 23:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I am new to on NPP and did not want to make a mistake. Bruxton (talk) 01:19, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022

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Aqsa

Hi Srnec, at the Aqsa discussion, I left you a message at 08:31, 14 June 2022. If you have time would you mind letting me know the answer? Onceinawhile (talk) 16:58, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Srnec. I and another editor have replied. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:29, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Srnec, thanks again for all your efforts here. I believe consensus has developed around some form of disambiguation, whilst the Qibli proposal won’t gain consensus. I would be interested in your thoughts on what solution might gain enough consensus to pass at this point. Thanks again. Onceinawhile (talk) 19:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Mogho Naaba

Why are you reverting improvements? Do you have any subject mater expertise on Burkina Faso? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65sugg (talk • contribs) 18:39, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

@65sugg: I did not revert any improvements. If you want the article title to change, see the process at WP:RM. —Srnec (talk) 13:31, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

You did revert improvements beyond the name change. There's many erroneous and unsourced claims I removed as well as updating for consistent terminology and spelling. 65sugg (talk) 15:53, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

I also already did a correct move using the process that you reverted

Move log

18:36, 31 May 2022 65sugg talk contribs moved page List of rulers of Wogodogo to List of rulers of Mogho Naabas (1. Wogodogo is no longer used, if anything it should be Ouagadougou, 2. In present day the Mogho Naaba has no political power and only serves as a traditional ruler, the actual rulers of Ouagadougou would include Mayors and such. 3. This list is really a list of those who have held the title "Mogho Naaba" which in fact predates the existence of Ouagadougou) (revert) 65sugg (talk) 15:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Governor infoboxes for Andalus governors

Hi Srnec, you recently undid edits I did on pages for governors of Al-Andalus governors, such as Hudhayfa_ibn_al-Ahwas_al-Qaysi. I had added infoboxes to the pages of governors, and you undid those edits because of the information in the infoboxes being redundant given that there was a succession box at the bottom of the page that had that information. My perspective was that the infoboxes can be populated with information that the succession box can't be, and I wanted to be consistent with other pages for Al-Andalus governors. Geopony (talk) 15:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

I believe the three infoboxes I removed were the only al-Andalus governors with infoboxes. I was trying to be consistent. On short articles, I think the infoboxes are a distraction. Also, please respect WP:BRD. Srnec (talk) 15:17, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Removal of Infoboxes

@Srnec: why are you removing infoboxes, I may ask? I did not find a valid reason for that removal. Thought of discussion on your talk itself since this removal is not focused on single article. Logosx127 (talk) 01:54, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't think infoboxes are useful on short articles in general (outside a few exceptional topic areas). I think most infoboxes are not well designed to handle historical complexity and uncertainty. I do not go around removing infoboxes, but I will often remove them from pages on my watchlist if I think they are being added pro forma. For example, the infobox you added to Elias of Merv contains no information not in the first sentence. Srnec (talk) 01:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Srnec, I am not opposing all those removals at the same time. Some of them are almost okay for me and yes, I agree with most of your reply. But you seem to be blindly reverting all what I do there, and I smell bad faith on me from your part. Or is that some sort of an article ownership? Anyway I don't mean any harm to the article, I assure. But I prefer to keep infoboxes wherever they are effective in giving a nutshell about the article. Especially in cases where the subject of bio is also a saint or have successor/predecessor or previous post. In case of Elias of Merv, the infobox was indeed somewhat unnecessary. But that not the case always. And I have intentions to expand those articles too.Logosx127 (talk) 02:06, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

On the contrary, if you look at maphrian you will see I have lots of reverts in the article history but I haven't touched your edits. Srnec (talk) 02:18, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

@Srnec: so you have all these articles in your watchlist? Well and good. I have restored the infobox in Gregory of Kashkar and don't remove that. That indeed carries some information. And I am okay with the other two for now. Logosx127 (talk) 02:23, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Articles I create go on my watchlist by default and I rarely remove them. I will leave Gregory of Kashkar for now, since I have long planned to come back to that article and expand it. But please don't give orders ("don't remove that"). Srnec (talk) 00:24, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVI, July 2022

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Change name of page

Why did you moved page Marquess of la Romana to Marquis of La Romana? Marquess and Marquis is the same, or not? Bye. 88.5.40.33 (talk) 18:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Like earl, marquess is generally reserved for British usage. Marquis is more common for continental nobility (in English). Srnec (talk) 15:10, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVII, August 2022

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Rfc for intros and/or RM for papal bios

Howdy. If you wish to open up an RFC on papal intros or an RM on papal bios or both, concerning whether or not to use 'Pope'? I won't object. But for now. let's try to keep consistency as much as possible across those 265 bios, while acknowledging that St. Peter gets treated differently. GoodDay (talk) 00:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

About the Armeniai-Azerbaijani War page

Would just like to point this out regarding your re-opening of the Requested Move on the Armeniai-Azerbaijani War page, per WP:CR:

"Many discussions result in a reasonably clear consensus, so if the consensus is clear, any editor—even one involved in the discussion—may close the discussion. [...] if consensus becomes clear before that and discussion has slowed, then it may be closed earlier. However, editors usually wait at least a week after a discussion opens, unless the outcome is very obvious, so that there is enough time for a full discussion." DJ (talk) 23:21, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

That does not apply to RMs. The closure rule for them is An involved editor, admin or otherwise, may not close a move request (with one exception, detailed below). See WP:RMCLOSE. —Srnec (talk) 23:24, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Fair enough. However, WP:RMCLOSE also states "the mere fact that the closer was not an admin is never sufficient reason to reverse a closure." DJ (talk) 23:34, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Epistola consolatoria ad pergentes in bellum

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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, September 2022

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DYK for Pietro Badoer

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Fraxinetum

Srnec, what's the problem with that book? It's published by Princeton... Drmies (talk) 23:56, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

@Drmies: Nothing wrong with the book per se, but it is about the Black Death and mentions Fraxinetum in passing in the prologue. It is being used to claim that Fraxinetum was an "emirate" and that it extended into Switzerland. I do not see that we need to introduce this source for this (questionable) information in the lead. Ballan, for example, calls it "an Islamic frontier state", but never calls it an emirate. Likewise, he does not corroborate Fraxinetum's control extending into Switzerland, although they certainly raided there. Srnec (talk) 01:16, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi Srnec! With regard to the user you've been having trouble with at Fraxinetum, you may want to see this. Regards, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 15:52, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Siege of Anamur

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"Titanic Republic" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Mursi

Hi

Al Mursi or Mursi is the same. For example Al Ganzouri or Ganzouri. Panam2014 (talk) 20:22, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCIX, November 2022

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Apostolic Church (1911 denomination)

I wonder how you chose the name of this page you moved - it seems dubious. Just a few days ago the article said it was formed in 1916: after all, it celebrated its 100th anniversary in 2016. StAnselm (talk) 15:22, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

The hatnote: "This article is about the Christian Church formed in 1911." I've no idea what date makes more sense or if there is an altogether better way to disambiguate. I only know that the old title was bad. Srnec (talk)

I have moved it to Apostolic Church (1916 denomination). StAnselm (talk) 22:24, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

My change to the article: Abd al-Malik al-Muzaffar

I note you reverted my unsourced change to the article. Yes, my change is unsourced. But if you look at the third last sentence in the last paragraph of the article, you will see why I made the change. This feat earned him the honorific by which he is now known, "the victor" (al-muzaffar) replacing "sword of the dynasty" (sayf al-dawla). How can he already be called "the victor" (al-muzaffar) when the article says later that that title was awarded later in his life? Chewings72 (talk) 09:58, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

@Chewings72: I checked the Makki citation and what he says is reinforcing him with a powerful army headed by his son, 'Abd al-Malik, who was given the title "al-Muzaffar". I have simply removed the statement in the article since it isn't entirely clear whether Makki means that this was the occasion for giving him that title or that this was the title by which he came to be known. Obviously I read it the first way the first time, but in light of the other source that reading can't stand. Srnec (talk) 14:48, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you.  :) Chewings72 (talk) 08:49, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

You and I have no outstanding issues

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Peter of Poitiers (secretary)

I am a bit worried about this Peter being confused with the similarly-named theologian. The two appear already to have been conflated on French Wikipedia.--Thoughtfortheday (talk) 11:31, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

@Thoughtfortheday: Do what you think is best. I am rather strict with WP:NAMB myself, but I won't fight over it. Many cases are judgement calls about what readers who don't know Wikipedia's inner workings will infer from our choices. Srnec (talk) 15:53, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Kalends of January

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Happy New Year, Srnec!

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Please do not edit war as you've now clearly done at Inayat Khan. None of us are allowed to behave like that. I will be restoring the well-sourced and relevant criticism section there every now and then until until you engage in proper consensus activity on that talk page. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:29, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

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Große Berliner Kunstausstellung

Hi @Srnec: Are you putting random links in. I had to revert. Are you not checking what your linking to? scope_creep^Talk 22:02, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

THat is some really good well-written articles you've created. scope_creep^Talk 22:47, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

The general was at Friedrich Stahl, so I moved him to make a dab page. I fixed some of the links, but Große Berliner Kunstausstellung was sloppiness. We don't have an article on the artist, although the German Wiki does. Why do you say he was Italian? Srnec (talk) 01:42, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

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List of Visigothic Kings, A list of Visigothic Kings, and DilutedHereticX

I see you have redirected List of Visigothic Kings, it back at A list of Visigothic Kings. I had earlier redirected the second article, but DilutedHereticX has restored it. Thoighy you might want to know. I'm going to redirect the recreated article again, but I'm sure it will just be restored again. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 22:37, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

And again A list of Emperors, although it could have been speedied by the time you see this. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 20:37, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

@ActivelyDisinterested: It was. The user in question has exactly zero interactions with other editors. And it isn't for lack of concerns raised on his or her talk page. Srnec (talk) 02:07, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Srnec I don't know what to at this point, I just redirect the latest version that was at List of Visigothic Monarchs. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 19:48, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

WP:CIR. Pinging @Whpq: the editor who blocked the user in question from the File namespace. Srnec (talk) 23:21, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

I've left a note at the editor's talk page. Hopefully, that will prompt them respond to issues. -- Whpq (talk) 13:34, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Scythians merger proposal

Could you please at least bother to participate in the merger discussion instead of refusing to respond when your criticisms are addressed? The behaviour of many "participants" of the discussion where they make criticisms of the proposal but then refuse to respond when their criticisms are addressed is starting to become ludicrous, and this includes your latest "input" where you accused me of not knowing what I am trying to do although I had already made it very clear to you that all my past splits and mergers were done because that's what the data I had at hand at the time suggested I should do. Antiquistik (talk) 15:32, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Why does this matter so much to you? What is the current setup preventing you from doing? I think we should retain sub-articles on the various Scythian kingdoms per WP:SUMMARY. If you want to call that a merge to Scythians, fine. I'd leave Scythia as a geography article. I'd restore the two articles on the lesser Scythias and structure the main article to make the progression clear. I'd do this because the main article is already 136,292 bytes long and we already have a sub-article on Scythian culture. —Srnec (talk) 01:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

My issue is that I have added all the data that I could while the pages are in their current states, and I need to know for sure whether the pages will remain separate or will be merged to be able to add the data I now have at hand, and I can't do that so long as the status of the various pages remains uncertain.

And my concern is only with the polity of Iškuza and Pontic Scythia: I initially moved content from Scythians to these because most editors tend to be in favour of splitting as much as possible. However this is not working well because they all cover the same polity, meaning that information about these is so intertwined to the point there it is necessary to copy extremely large amounts of content from each other to provide proper historical background for each article. This, in turn creates large amounts of repetition and duplication so that about half of the present Iškuza and Scythia articles consist of material copied from each other and from Scythians.

This is why I have had no problems with splitting other sections from Scythians but been proposing to merge only Iškuza and Pontic Scythia into Scythians. I however do agree with you that Scythia should be made into a separate geography article, and, if you think it will be better to do so, then we could restore the pages of the two Scythiae Minores too. Antiquistik (talk) 11:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Although my biggest issue so far is the thorough unseriousness of multiple participants of that discussion, which in the case of certain users goes into outright bad faith territory.

The present administrative processes of Wikipedia are clearly dysfunctional and easily abused. Antiquistik (talk) 11:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Why do you think summary style won't work in this instance? Why must the pages be "merged" rather than simply turned into clearer sub-articles of the main article? Why not have the political history covered in full in summary at Scythians with more depth and detail to be found in the political sub-articles (Ishkuza, Pontic Scythia, the Scythiae Minores)? Srnec (talk) 17:06, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Because of the large amount of information overlap and duplication that I have mentioned:

• in Iškuza, the "Origins" sub-section is copied content from Scythians verbatim, and it is absolutely crucial information to understand the formation of this polity, so it can't be just removed from the page or condensed further;
• in Scythia, it's worse because the whole of the "Origins of the Scythians" sub-section and much of the "Arrival in the Pontic steppe" sub-sub-section of the "Background" sub-section, and the whole "Society" section are also merely content copied verbatim from Scythians, and the "West Asia" sub-sub-section of the "Background" sub-section is a slightly condensed summary of Iškuza, and in this case too, none of these sections can be removed or further condensed without losing crucial information to understand the formation and society of this polity.

The situation means that only the sub-sections concerning the political histories proper of Iškuza and Scythia are unique to those pages and they form less than half of each page. Meanwhile the rest, which forms the bulk of each page, is copied content which cannot be removed or further condensed. Additionally, much of the content of the "Culture and society" of Scythians requires most of the content from the political histories of Iškuza and Scythia as context to be understandable, which isn't possible under the current setting of separate pages.

The gist of it is that the information concerning the West Asian and Pontic kingdoms of the Scythians is too inherently intertwined with the general understanding of the Scythians themselves, and having stand-alone pages in this specific case makes it more difficult to convey information about the topic. Which is why I am proposing that Iškuza and the information about the political history of Scythia be merged into Scythians while, as you had earlier suggested, turning the current Scythia page into one covering the geographic term denoted by the name "Scythia."

The Medes article, which covers both the Median ethnic group and the Median Empire while there is a separate article for the region of Media, and the Ammon, Moab and Edom articles, which cover the states of Ammon, Moab, and Edom, as well as the Ammonite, Moabite, and Edomite ethnic groups, are good examples of what, in my opinion, should be the format for the Scythians. Although I think I am warming up to your position that the Scythiae Minores should be their own separate pages.

Furthermore, even if merging Iškuza and Scythia into Scythians is ultimately rejected, Iškuza and Scythia would nevertheless need to be merged with each other because, as the source Ivantchik (2018) notes, the Scythian presence in West Asia (i.e. Iškuza) was merely an extension of the Scythian kingdom in the steppes (i.e. Scythia), meaning that they were not separate polities, and the aforementioned information overlap between these two articles is too extensive for these two phases of the same polity sharing extremely extensive political, social and cultural continuity.

Although I am also adding the caveat that I am not asking you to change your position in my favour, I am only asking you to engage in the discussion, which is why I only requested you to participate, not to side with me, in my initial message. Antiquistik (talk) 18:03, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the discussion does not seem to be active. I think there is no consensus for a merge, although I am not wedded to an independent Iškuza article. I think you need to approach this from a new angle. Perhaps draft articles that would show editors exactly what you have in mind? Srnec (talk) 03:07, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

What must I do to show a draft to the editors? Antiquistik (talk) 16:32, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Create the draft and ping them on the draft talk page? Just a suggestion. Srnec (talk) 16:34, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Quotes

Hi Srnec,

Take a read of WP:Quote. We do not have to reproduce spelling mistakes from quotes. It is not as if the error is very significant. Sometimes the spelling error can help to discredit the source. But that is not usually what we are trying to do. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:37, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm surprised to see that, but it is an essay and I'm not sure I agree with it. The APA disagrees. Moreover, the error is not called out by "(sic)" to draw attention to it. I'm more comfortable not altering the spelling in quotations. After all, couldn't we then Americanize British spellings in quotations if we felt like it? For consistency in an article? Srnec (talk) 15:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

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I have a bit of a conundrum.

What do you know about a rebellion by a Heinrich von Virneburg and his posssession(occupation?) of the archdiocese of Mainz? Would you know what year that occurred? Any information would be helpful. Thanks! --Kansas Bear (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you're talking about the "Mainz Schism" as mentioned at Baldwin of Luxembourg. This de:Heinrich III. von Virneburg was the pro-Louis IV/pro-Nicholas V candidate. It looks like the schism in Mainz lasted longer than the papal schism. Other than the sources in the German article, I don't really know of any off the top of my head. The reign of Emperor Louis IV is poorly covered in English and that definitely includes the antipapacy of Nicholas V. Srnec (talk) 15:21, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

You sir, are awesome! That is more information than I was able to find. Thank you so much! Stay safe, Srnec! --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:14, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

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Please read the source!!!!!!!!

The source is about people who claim to be just muslims not about Non-denominational Muslims!!!!!!!!! Panam2014 (talk) 18:46, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@Panam2014: Considering how you modified the lead at Non-denominational Muslim, your hairsplitting makes no sense to me. Srnec (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

You are not neutral but biaised user. Panam2014 (talk) 18:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@Panam2014: Well now, I read the survey and it's fairly clear that you are misreading or misrepresenting the source itself, since the Pew Research survey explicitly speaks of Muslims worldwide who choose not to affiliate with a specific sect, aka Non-denominational Muslims. Therefore, the content that you keep deleting is sourced and accurate, fully in accordance with the cited source which you keep disparaging with your useless edit warring:

“Just a Muslim”

"Many Muslims worldwide choose not to affiliate with a specific sect but volunteer that they are “just a Muslim.” This affiliation is most common in Central Asia and across Southern and Eastern Europe; in both regions, the median percentage stating they are “just a Muslim” is half or more. In Kazakhstan, nearly three-quarters (74%) of Muslims volunteer this response, as do more than six-in-ten Muslims in Albania (65%) and Kyrgyzstan (64%).

In sub-Saharan Africa and Southeast Asia, substantial minorities also consider themselves “just a Muslim” (medians of 23% and 18%, respectively). And in three countries – Indonesia (56%), Mali (55%) and Cameroon (40%) – “just a Muslim” is the single most-frequent response when people are queried about their sect. Identification as “just a Muslim” is less prevalent in the Middle East and North Africa (median of 12%) and South Asia (median of 4%)." GenoV84 (talk) 19:06, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@Panam2014: If you accuse other editors of being biased while disrupting the project by abiding to your own POV, you are most definitely WP:NOTHERE. GenoV84 (talk) 19:08, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@GenoV84: stop liying. You made a clear WP:OR and violated [[WP:NOTHERE] Panam2014 (talk) 19:15, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Are you talking to yourself in the mirror? Because that's what it looks like....

I simply stick to the sources and didn't violate any POV, unlike you my dear. GenoV84 (talk) 19:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@GenoV84: your behaviour is ridiculous. You are guilty of original research and misappropriation of source. Panam2014 (talk) 19:22, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@Panam2014: Read the source again, and prove it. Remember to avoid insults and personal attacks, because that's also forbidden on Wikipedia. GenoV84 (talk) 19:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@GenoV84: Very cheeky of you. You insulted me as a liar and a vandal Panam2014 (talk) 19:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Criticizing a behavior is not prohibited Panam2014 (talk) 19:29, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@Panam2014: You have been reported to WP:ANI for insults and personal attacks. GenoV84 (talk) 20:00, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Amherst papyri

Hi Srnec. You added a reference for "Grenfell & Hunt 1901" to Amherst papyri, and two cites for "Grenfell & Hunt 1900" but not one for 1901. Could you let me know which of the cite you meant? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 13:40, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks, Srnec (talk) 15:04, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Guru

Hi, this is about : perhaps you should suggest an alternative wording, instead of wholesale deletion. tgeorgescu (talk) 04:30, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Seeing as the paper nowhere uses the word 'guru', why do you think it is relevant? Srnec (talk) 20:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

I don't see a real difference between "guru" and "cult leader" (at least in Western contexts). tgeorgescu (talk) 12:51, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

It isn't a page about cult leaders. Even the "Western" section is mostly about the Western reception of the guru–shishya tradition, which is almost the opposite of a charismatic and self-appointed leader with a set of beliefs and practices which are considered deviant (cf. cult). Srnec (talk) 20:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Your point is valid. However, when Western people speak of gurus they mean people like Rudolf Steiner, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov, Osho Rajneesh, and so on. tgeorgescu (talk) 20:19, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

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Hebrew

Hi. I was beginning to slog through the newly created issue when the Hebrew redirect was changed from the language to the dab page, when I realized that there needed to be some discussion of the retargeting. So I simply reverted the change of target. Thanks for reverting those. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:19, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Clarification

Wait, based on this, Can I close as moved if literally no votes have taken place? >>> Extorc.talk 05:10, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes. It can be read as uncontroversial. That is my understanding of the 'no minimum participation' rule. In this particular case, I felt it was uncontroversial, but out of an abundance of caution for anything related to the Middle East (construed broadly), I went with RM. When I see no participation, I assume my instinct was right and it is in fact uncontroversial. Srnec (talk) 16:07, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Crusade of 1107

Hello! In the article you created for the Crusade of 1129, there is a redlink to Bohemond I of Antioch's Crusade of 1107. Is this another name for the Siege of Dyrrhachium (1107–1108), and if so, would it make sense for me to make the redlink a redirect to that article? Or would this be a larger topic that would eventually get its own article. Blue Danube (talk) 16:58, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

I went ahead an created a redirect tagged {{R with possibilities}}, since it is a larger topic that would eventually get its own article. Srnec (talk) 00:03, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

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Hello Srnec, I have a question which you may think to be frivolous; when I was editing this article, I noticed that we use Lord for French noblemen who own manor, however, wouldn’t it be more qualitative if we used seigneur? The French use seigneur on their Wikipedia and it’s in the English dictionary, furthermore, I would say it’s more pertinent and appropriate even if it may seem trivial. Nonetheless, I hope you can enlighten me on this matter as someone who is more savant than me. Okiyo9228 (talk) 21:56, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "more qualitative". I think it is the same. "Lord" is a translation of "seigneur". Whether it needs translating depends, I think, on context. If we are talking about lordship, then a translation seems wise. But if we are merely using identifying titles, then there is a stronger tendency to stick to French. 'So-and-so inherited the seigneurie/lordship of X' seems fine to me either way. I do not believe English usage is terribly consistent in this. Srnec (talk) 22:43, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Treaty of Lunéville

I'd suggest doing some checking before dismissing edits as nonsense. The history of the Imperial Austrian Army starts in 1806, see the article Imperial_Austrian_Army_(1806–1867, before 1806 the Habsburg monarchy was an amalgam of territories, most of which were part of the Holy Roman Empire and therefore not fully sovereign and it's army was the Imperial Army (Holy Roman Empire). I will happily shift the article linked to Imperial and Royal Army during the Napoleonic Wars which may be more relevant. Additionally your edit mentions Italian Republics, which after the Treaty of Lunéville were all merged into the Italian Republic (Napoleonic). Ecrm87 (talk) 21:59, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes, Imperial and Royal Army during the Napoleonic Wars is probably a better link. I will issue a mea culpa of sorts, since you are correct regarding the topic of the article at Imperial Army (Holy Roman Empire). But I think the distinction being drawn here between the "Imperial Army" and the "Army of the Holy Roman Empire" does not make sense. The norman translation of Reichsarmee would be "imperial army". I assumed, incorrectly, that that was what the article was about. Our two article titles do not properly distinguish their contents. John Gagliardo, Germany under the Old Regime 1600–1790, p. 4, clearly reserves "Imperial Army" for the Reichsarmee, likewise Roeland Goorts, War, State, and Society in Liège, p. 129.

As for the Italian republics, I think you are wrong. The treaty refers to the République cisalpine and République ligurienne. The Italian Republic was formed after the treaty. Srnec (talk) 22:43, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

I think the problem is that Kaiserliche Armee and Reichsarmee both translate in English to Imperial Army, whereas the more accurate term for the former would be Emperor's Army. They were definitely separate entities as one was raised and paid for directly by the emperor from his own dominions to be used at his discretion and the other by the princes of the empire only in the event of a Reichskreig.

As for the Italian republic(s) I agree the reference in the treaty is to the two republics, but that section of the article's talking about the treaty's implications and the merger of the italian republics into one was a direct result of the treaty. Perhaps adding a later to that sentence might clarify better? Ecrm87 (talk) 22:56, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Query

Hello, Srnec,

You moved Kizilbash (suburb) and I was wondering why the article wasn't titled Trachonas which is how the town is identified in the article. Do you know why? Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

@Liz: I didn't even notice! But I do know why: an improper cut-and-paste move from Trachonas by Sportscorrection back in 2018. Is it possible for their histories to be merged? I have no opinion on which title is more appropriate, only that it isn't he primary topic for Kizilbash. The (correct, original) redirect was overwritten during the cut-and-paste. Srnec (talk) 02:05, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

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One of the comments here is almost trolling! I cNnot see what caused it but it is clear that you are a valuable member of the Wikipedia community. You must work full time at it. Best wishes Bev Rowe (bev@bevrowe.info) BevRowe (talk) 17:28, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Libellus de vocabulis rei militaris

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Manoli Blessi

You need to add a RS next to the statement . Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:25, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Question (sort)

Hello, I was just editing the articles of the early popes and I saw someone changed one of the pope’s church from Catholic Church to Early Christianity, denoting those popes who died before the Nicene Creed. Thus, I choose to emulate the editor’s actions to serve as a modality for the early popes. Hence, I have come here to ask your opinion on the matter… Raulois (talk) 02:16, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Can you link to a diff of the kind of edit you are talking about? Srnec (talk) 02:35, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

He's done a load of these. It would have been better to have asked first, and asked at the Catholicism project. I'm sure the question has been discussed there before, and perhaps a consensus formed. Don't be amazed if you get reverted. Johnbod (talk) 02:46, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

You’re probably right, sorry. Raulois (talk) 03:05, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

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Kingdom of Germany

stop deleting the info box at the Kingdom of Germany site, You do this every 2 - 4 month. I mean it's so Unnecessary And annoying AsuraZC (talk) 19:09, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

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siege of silves and torres novas

bro why do u remove those sieges? . pls answer me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zayani55 (talk • contribs) 10:04, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Not every single battle or siege deserves an article of its own. The sourcing for pre-modern conflicts will not necessarily support it. The articles as they stood were fluffy pieces that introduced little or no information not already in the parent article on the campaign (and better sourced there). Srnec (talk) 01:02, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Dialogo de Cecco di Ronchitti da Bruzene in perpuosito de la stella Nuova

Hi Srnec. Just to confirm, you added a reference for "Petrizzi 2010" but did you mean "Peruzzi 2010" (e.g. "A New Physics to Support the Copernican System: Gleanings from Galileo's Works")? Otherwise a new full cite will be required. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 10:39, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks, Srnec (talk) 11:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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Drobolitza and Mouchli: did you mean to delete the discussion?

While checking CGR article alerts, I noted that not only was the discussion about splitting Drobolitza and Mouchli closed (quite reasonably), but that both the title and the discussion on the article were now redlinked. Perhaps I'm not familiar enough with the process—but aren't discussions about keeping/deleting/merging/splitting articles usually preserved? I checked on the pages of both topics, since experience teaches me that merge proposals are often started on the wrong talk page, making them harder to locate, as clicking the link under the merge template and alerts pages lead to the place the discussion was expected to take place—but in this case the discussion doesn't seem to have gone under either of the articles, probably because the original page was deleted without a redirect. As someone more familiar with the process, I expect you can tell me—shouldn't the discussion that resulted in splitting the contents between Drobolitza and Mouchli—evidently the latter having been created as a result of the split—be preserved on at least one of the talk pages, perhaps with a link from the other, so that there's a record of what was done and why? P Aculeius (talk) 13:27, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drobolitza and Mouchli is linked at the top of Talk:Mouchli. Or am I misunderstanding your concern? I only moved the page without leaving a redirect using my page mover rights. I'm not an admin. I don't think I can delete any substantial content. Srnec (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake! I think I saw the discussion redlinked under article alerts, and erroneously thought it had been deleted. Probably not thinking clearly! Thanks for clearing that up. P Aculeius (talk) 04:26, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Hundred Years' War, 1415–1453

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Transliteration, Allography and Garshunography

Intriguing! Before my heavy edit and recasting of the Allography/Allograph article, I searched around for uses of the word. Virtually all were about letter shapes, with the legal use (an agent on behalf of a principal) a very poor second. The Coptic/Arabic didn't come up at all. The choice of the word "allography" makes sense, given its etymology, though I can't help wondering if it is an archaic usage given that transliteration is the more generic term? So when you write "a practice known as allography", the question must arise: known by whom? Is this usage unique to Worrell?

I'm also a bit concerned by the WP:EGG effect of having [[Garshunography|Allography]]: my preference would be for Garshunography ("Allography"). But I recognise of course that this is a specialist topic and words have specific meanings in that context and are understood by the readership. So totally your call.

When you write the Garshunography article, you will need to extend the hatnote on the allograph article to point to it.

You might want to add a line or two to the Wiktionary article too? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:10, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Luxembourg Rebellion merge

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Re:Duecento

I left the redirect instead, as it was before brunodam's edit. The only "substantial" edit were two, literally two, sentences added by Johnbod in 2021, any other substantial edit has been done either by brunodam's sockpuppets or IPs (I can't literally find an IP which is not his). In order to magnify his own idea of Italy and Italian heritage (usually with a nostalgic fascination of fascism) brunodam doesn't really thinks twice before falsifying source or even creating his own, although the content in question appears to be just a trivial summary of contents present elsewhere, I can't trust a single word written by him. I won't open an RfD, speaking frainkly it's quite a time consuming process and I'm fairly tired of being given the burden of proof when dealing with such a blatant abuser. Bye. --Vituzzu (talk) 22:26, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

That is flat untrue - for example I did these edits in September, and many other editors have added stuff - look at the history. I'm reluctant to take you to ANI, but you are on your last warning.

Srnec - you haven't archived this for over 5 years, & it takes a while to find the bottom! Just saying. Thanks for your edits. Johnbod (talk) 02:10, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

I will archive it soon. Srnec (talk) 00:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Why reverted?

Hello, I didn't get the point. I was just added infobox. Why you reverted this edit? ‍~ 𝕂𝕒𝕡𝕦𝕕𝕒𝕟 ℙ𝕒ş𝕒 ^{(inbox - contribs)} 03:45, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

I just don't see an infobox improving the article. Infoboxes are best where important information cannot be put into just a few reasable sentences. Srnec (talk) 00:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

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Italian and Swiss expedition of 1799

Your recent page moves created an error: this Italian and Swiss expedition should move here Italian and Swiss expedition of 1799, not here Italian and Swiss expedition (1799–1800). Cotling (talk) 11:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

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Revert reason

"Not obvious improvements" is kind of a chicken way to avoid saying what you didn't like about my edit that you reverted? There were two lowercasings. Did one of them seem wrong to you? Dicklyon (talk) 04:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: Both, for different reasons. First, you left the intro as The Second Battle of Dongola or siege of Dongola, which looks silly to me. If we have a name ("Second Battle of Dongola"), why are we tossing out a description in bold? If the former is not actually a name, then it, too, should be lower case. But in that case, the article should be moved, which can be done boldly or by RM. I favour the latter because I do not think the current title would be an acceptable descriptive title. I am not opposed to a move, however. Second, so-called "Old Church" looks like a way of saying "the church referred to either by natives or by scholars as the 'Old Church'". It looks, in other words, like a name. I believe it is usually capitalized in sources, as it is in The Medieval Kingoms of Nubia. Srnec (talk) 04:23, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

OK, so one "looks silly" to you, and the other might be treated as a proper name, even though there's no hint of that in the article, and no source cited near the usage. I think MOS:CAPS suggests we default to lowercase when we don't have a good reason to do otherwise; looking silly to you is not such a reason. I agree that the "Second Battle of" title needs further investigation, but it's not required that I fix everything in one go, is it? Battles often seems to have these kinds of settled names; there's no reason to think it would have two proper names. Dicklyon (talk) 04:58, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

The ref for the damaged church just calls it "a church". Dicklyon (talk) 05:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Checking sources, it's clear that the title is not so common, but as often "second battle" or "second Battle" as "Second Battle" (in sentences); so I moved it. Dicklyon (talk) 05:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: Most instances of "second battle of Dongola" are probably downstream of the Wikipedia article. I can find only one case from before 2009, when our article was created. It is on p. 1 of the Historical Dictionary of Ancient and Medieval Nubia. It is in lower case. As for "Old Church", it should be capitalized, as it is in the Handbook of Ancient Nubia, the Historical Dictionary of Medieval Christian Nubia, The Christian Epigraphy of Egypt and Nubia, etc. It is consistently capitalized in RS. Most churches in Dongola have names like this (i.e., "Church of the Granite Columns"). Srnec (talk) 15:28, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Please add that ref to "Old Church" then. Thanks. Dicklyon (talk) 16:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

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Medieval great powers

Why did you revert my edits under the pretext of not reliable sources. Those were various historical books with precise dates, better than, for example, the primary source used in the article, which gives single years rather than periods. One such error is the statement that Lithuania was a great power in 1450, omitting Poland, although a number of sources cite Poland and Lithuania together as a great power since the victory at Grunwald in 1410. Plus the photo of the largest great power by area seems to be adequate for the article (no room for maps of all powers as the article is short). The omission of a number of powers, like the North Sea Empire, the Second Bulgarian Empire, Poland or Hungary, is apparent to any person with at least an average interest in medieval European history.

Compare this to articles on ancient or modern powers, where each is briefly described with maps. I am not able to develop the article in a similar way because I do not know various languages, however, it seems to me I have taken a step in the right direction in which the article could be developed. Please explain precisely how the sources I cited were inferior to some of those already used, and do not just one-click revert my or other users' sizable edits without prior discussion, if only out of consideration for someone's effort. Marcin 303 (talk) 12:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Page moves

Hello, Srnec,

I review the Move log daily and it seemed like today there were a number of times where you moved an article from A title to B title, and a few minutes later moved it from B title back to A title. If this happened once, it would seem like a simple mistake but I saw this happening several times. I guess I'd just like to ask you to be more careful with your page moves, think about whether an article should be moved to a different page title (or not moved) and, if so, what it should be and get the spelling and grammar correct the first time. Since you are a page mover, if any of these mistaken page moves were do to misspellings, then you don't need to leave a redirect behind when you move an article back. And if you are trying to create redirects, you can do that easily without moving an article just by putting #REDIRECT on the redirect page along with the current title.

I realize that you are a very experienced editor so I was more suprised at these move reverts and just thought I'd cover all of the bases in this message. Thanks for all of your contributions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Muhtaseb/Muhtasib

Hello,

Why did you remove my family name from the Muhtasib wikipedia page? It is accurate and directly related to the information. I can testify that the family is from Hebron. Please revert the change kindly, thank you. Quilterson (talk) 18:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Ethiopic Apocalypse of Ezra

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David II of Georgia

You recently redirected David II of Georgia to David II, but the only viable target on that page is David IV of Georgia - sometimes known as David II (he was listed as David II, but I've fixed that). The only other possible candidate that I can find is David II of Iberia who was a member of the Georgian Bagratid dynasty, but that seems a bit of a stretch. It seems to me that it would be better to revert back to David IV of Georgia - what do you think? Leschnei (talk) 15:17, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

I do not think that "David II of Georgia" is a clear title. I think it would be natural to assume that David II of Georgia and David II of Iberia were the same person. In fact, the Historical Dictionary of Georgia has three David IIs and our "David II of Iberia" is described as "king of Georgians". See here. Srnec (talk) 20:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

I wrote an addition to my original question, but apparently didn't save it properly - after digging some more I found several other people who could be called David II of Georgia. So I agree with you, it is not a clear title, and should redirect to the DAB page. Leschnei (talk) 00:10, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Texts attributed to Ezra

We need to discuss the name of the category on Category talk:Texts attributed to Ezra—-W2024 (talk) 04:06, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Attributed is an offensive word. Ascribed, assigned, or traditionally authored are more appropriate —-W2024 (talk) 04:09, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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Raynald of Châtillon

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Kingdom of Asturias and Pelagius and Reconquista

Hello, I am a graduate student studying the Visigoths and Visigothic kingdom pages. I think it is misleading to include the historical myth that the Kingdom of Asturias and specifically Pelagius was the beginning of the 'Reconquista" (which itself it one of those umbrella loaded terms like 'Crusades'). Do you think it is possible to remove these references? Or should I leave them in and add more text about why it is not considered accurate (by current historians) Thanks, Tmarac (talk) 12:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC) User: Tmarac

@Tmarac: What articles are you referring to exactly? Srnec (talk) 16:09, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Dear Srnec, I am referring to the The Visigoths article:

"A Visigothic nobleman, Pelayo, is credited with beginning the Christian Reconquista of Iberia in 718, when he defeated the Umayyad forces in the Battle of Covadonga and established the Kingdom of Asturias in the northern part of the peninsula."

Roger Collins in The Arab Conquest of Spain page 148

Pelagius did not think he was 'reviving' the Visigothic Kingdom. A Christian bishop was fighting on the side of the Arabs against Pelagius.

And more broadly:

page 198 "counterweight to tendancy to believe that the Arab invasion marks a totally new beginning".

Thanks,

Terry Tmarac (talk) 12:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

"is credited with" X certainly doesn't imply that Pelayo had X in mind. I have nevertheless reworded to remove reference to the Reconquista, which is largely out of scope at Visigoths. Srnec (talk) 22:44, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Dear Srnec,

Thank you very much. I appreciate your help.

The Visigothic kingdom article (also) includes this sentence at the end of the first paragraph of the section titled Muslim Conquest:

"The only effective resistance was in Asturias, where a Visigothic nobleman named Pelagius revolted in 718, and defeated the Muslims at the battle of Covadonga; this was the beginning of the Reconquista.[citation needed]"

As I am a newcomer editor I am hesitant to remove the phrase "this was the beginning of the Reconquista", (I would retain the first part of the sentence). Do you think I should go ahead?

Thanks, Terry Tmarac (talk) 01:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes. Worst case, you are reverted and then you have to discuss the change. See WP:BRD. Bold editing is encouraged, but when challenged, discuss. Explaining your edit succinctly in an edit summary helps avoid misunderstanding. Srnec (talk) 02:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Dear Srnec,

Thank you. I just read the WP:BRD. I might post my plans in the talk page first. Likely I will go ahead with the edit and will have a edit summary ready.

Thanks, Terry Tmarac (talk) 12:38, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Alexander Romance page rating

Hello. I noticed you helped improve some of my edits at Alexander Romance and I appreciate it. I have noticed that the article has a C-class content assessment but I think that after my work on the page this may be able to be elevated. Do you know how I can request a reassessment of the articles content quality? Pogenplain (talk) 06:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

You can change it yourself by normal editing (strange and/or gauche as that may seem). Myself, I don't care much about article ratings. They are often done in a semi-automated manner and they serve mainly to identify articles needing improvement (I think). There is still a lot of room for improvement at Alexander Romance, but that goes with the territory of such an expansive topic. With your improvements there and over at Clementine literature, you are crossing articles of off my to-do list! Srnec (talk) 22:17, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK

Hey, I've noticed that I forgot to respond to your review of my DYK nomination. I don't know how that happened, but I finally replied a few days ago. I think your suggestions are good. The mention of the image can be next to Eretna instead of the Eretnid dynasty, because the coin belongs to Eretna and not his descendants, who used different motifs. Let me know if I need to do anything in addition, because I have not self-nominated any other article for DYK before. Aintabli (talk) 01:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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Guaimar IV of Salerno

You recently reverted the page to an edit you did a back in July 2023 under the pretense of "vandalism" without further explanation. I fail to see what's been vandalised in any of edits after yours. Would you mind explain yourself? Do you simply feel an arbitrary ownership of the article in question? Voy178 (talk) 08:18, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

The vandalism was by the now blocked user JR1993, a longtime account abuser. I preserved one of your edits, but not the infobox, which I oppose. We can discuss the infobox on the talk page if you want. Srnec (talk) 20:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I'd like to know what's wrong with the infobox. It's very useful and the norm on all featured and good articles. Voy178 (talk) 20:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Per MOS:INFOBOXUSE, infoboxes are never required. In this case, it repeats his uncertain birth and death dates from the lead and lists his relatives. It gives his "house" as "Salerno", which is just silly. In my opinion, it adds no value. It does not present information in a convenient way that is superior to prose, as the infoboxes of modern politicians and athletes often do. Srnec (talk) 23:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

I believe lists are easier to read. It's just an overview. Especially useful when considering the section on his family. The entries into the infobox may change as sources changes. I feel like you just have a bias against infoboxes. Consider Cleopatra. Voy178 (talk) 08:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

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Wikidata

Hello Srnec. I see that when I create some pages you connect it to a Wikidata item. I saw this most recently with the page I made today Babyloniaca (Berossus) just now. Is this connection something I should or can be doing myself? This is a feature I do not know. Thank you. Pogenplain (talk) 00:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Pogenplain: You can, but the only way to do it yourself that I know is to check Wikidata to see if the topic exists there already. Eventually a Wikidata page will be created for any new article. At that point, we migh have two different Wikidata items for the same thing and they will need to be merged. (That's also easy to do. There's a merge button on Wikidata.) In this case, I went to see if there was a Babyloniaca dab page at other Wikis. I checked the French first. When I go to https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babyloniaca, there is no article but it lists Wikidata results at the bottom. That's how I learned there was a Dutch page on Berossus' text. There is probably a better way... but I usually stumble on Wikidata items by roundabout routes like that. Srnec (talk) 01:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Reversion of Earl of Northumbria

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I notice that you have reverted my edit. May I ask why? Because the information I added has proper citation and as I see it, there's no reason that it has to be reverted. Also you labeled my edit as vandalism? Juleskoundes (talk) 00:33, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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trouvère

per trouvère "Trouvère (/truːˈvɛər/🔈, French: [tʁuvɛʁ]🔈), sometimes spelled trouveur (/truːˈvɜːr/🔈, French: [tʁuvœʁ]🔈), is the Northern French (langue d'oïl) form of the langue d'oc (Occitan) word trobador, the precursor of the modern French word troubadour. Trouvère refers to poet-composers who were roughly contemporary with and influenced by the trobadors, both composing and performing lyric poetry during the High Middle Ages, but while the trobadors composed and performed in Old Occitan, the trouvères used the northern dialects of France. One of the first known trouvère was Chrétien de Troyes (fl. 1160s–1180s) and the trouvères continued to flourish until about 1300. Some 2130 trouvère poems have survived; of these, at least two-thirds have melodies." etc Mason (talk) 19:11, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

This seems to be a dialect specific verision of a troubadour. Please undo you revertsMason (talk) 19:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

No. Trouvères are French-language composers, while troubadours are Occitan-language composers. This is how the terms are used in English. The categories are misnamed. I tried to fix it here, but the categorists don't seem to care if our category names are misleading/inscrutable. Srnec (talk) 19:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok, so it seems like those people should be in the French troubadours category based on the CFD. They're french nationals who are poet composers. What am I missing? Mason (talk) 19:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Like at the very least they should be in Category:13th-century French composers and Category:13th-century French poets, instead of Category:13th-century French people. Mason (talk) 19:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

The word "troubadour" implies the Occitan language, while "trouvère" implies French. Thus, trouvères are not troubadours, since they did not write in Occitan. The modern use of "troubadour" to mean itinerant musical performer does not at all reflect scholarly usage. The term "French troubadour" is almost oxymoronic. Srnec (talk) 19:36, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

There's no need to be so salty about it. Anyway, I've moved them to French composers, as that's a category that reflects their nationality, not their language. Mason (talk) 19:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Alice of Champagne

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Why deleted my added Barony of Vaud flag

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Sources? Srnec (talk) 01:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

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Inquiry About Reverted Edits

Hi Srnec, I hope this message finds you well. I noticed that my recent edits on the Al-Yunini and Ibn Abi al-Dam articles were reverted, and I wanted to understand the reasons behind this decision. My intention was to improve the articles by adding an infoboxes. I was about to add one to the Al-Kutubi but refrained myself after noticing it.

Could you please provide some insight into why the edits were reverted? I am eager to learn and contribute positively to Wikipedia, and your feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and assistance. Ainty Painty (talk) 07:08, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Inofoboxes are somewhat contentious, at least on certain types of article. See Wikipedia:Disinfoboxes. Generally speaking, I think they are overused. They are never required, per MOS:INFOBOXUSE. They are best when there are details that cannot be easily or efficiently conveyed in prose in the lead. I do not think they add much value to relatively short articles on historical writers. Srnec (talk) 23:52, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

What does this mean?

Hello Srnec. I was browsing around randomly and saw something i don't understand, which i see you added here: His dates written as "1244×1247 – 29 August 1287" ~ what does 1244x1247 mean? Very possibly it's all over the place, but i don't remember seeing it before, so thought i'd ask; hope you don't mind. Thank you. Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 22:16, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

It indicates a range, i.e., "born between 1244 and 1247". Ideally, we'd have the "×" marked the way we mark the "c." and "fl." in, e.g., c. 1245 and fl. 1244–1247, but I'm not tech savvy enough to do it. Srnec (talk) 02:50, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Cool. Thank you so much for the explanation. One of the best things about reading and editing here most days is that i thus learn something most days. I did see that the range was shown that way in the DNB you used as a reference (though didn't understand it there, either). Thanks again, Lindsay 07:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I've added the tooltip ~ surely i'm not the only reader who didn't understand! Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 07:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

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Tomb of Charles III and Eleanor

It is a shame that you did not nominate the article Tomb of Charles III of Navarre and Eleanor of Castile at WP:Did you know. My Charles III nomination caught a lot of attention. Just the mention of King Charles III's tomb would have seen people flocking to the article. Surtsicna (talk) 13:14, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't like QPQ. Feels like a chore. Srnec (talk) 13:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Siege of Silves (1191)

Hello @Srnec

Recently i wanted to create an article regrading Siege of Silves (1191) during the Reconquista. Later i discovered that there was an already existing article regarding that but redirected towards Almohad campaign against Portugal (1190–1191). Seeing the history page , I've stumbled on AFD of the page which you nominated. It was redirected as it doesn't have more details.

I've created a page on my sandbox that covers details of the siege. Does it achieve notability? Should we reverse the redirect or add the content on Almohad campaign against Portugal (1190–1191)? Let me know what you think.

Here's my sand box User:عبدالرحمن4132/sandbox5. عبدالرحمن4132 (talk) 07:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I cannot find State of Islam in Andalusia. Is this an Arabic work? We need better bibliographic data. I think the article is short enough to handle the addition. But if you would prefer to overwrite the redirect, go ahead. Srnec (talk) 13:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Srnec

Regarding the book yes its an arabic work consisting of multiple volumes from the beginning of Muslim Spain til its fall.

I'll try to check for more sources that could be added. عبدالرحمن4132 (talk) 13:29, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

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Petronilla as countess of Barcelona

In the past few months the articles Ramon Berenguer IV of Barcelona, Petronilla of Aragon, Alfonso II of Aragon, and Count of Barcelona have been edited to show Petronilla as the countess of Barcelona from 1162 to 1164 in succession to Ramon Berenguer instead of Alfonso. Is this correct? Surtsicna (talk) 08:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Off the top of my head, I would not think so. I would think that Alfonso succeeded his father. This article seems to say as much. That doesn't mean that Petronilla did not continue to style herself Countess of Barcelona at least until 1164 (see here, but not in 1173). She may have been regent of Barcelona in some sense in 1162–1164. I have read the Stalls paper cited in the Petronilla article, but if I have a digital copy it is on a harddrive I do not currently have access to. I can only see snippets on Google Books. This says that she had no authority outside of Aragon proper. She certainly did not cede Barcelona to Alfonso in 1164 (see here). I think these changes should be reverted. Srnec (talk) 21:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Siege of Silves (1190)

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Uthman ibn Abi Nis'a al-Khath'ami

You reverted my minor typographical improvement to the article.

Just FYI and to explain my edit: as you probably know, straight apostrophes (' U+0027) are ambiguous when it comes to transliterating ʿayn and hamza. I saw there was already a full transliteration, and I just thought it might help readers to see also in the initial boldface transliteration that the characters referred to are ʿayn; hence my use of U+2018 ‘. No one is criticizing or overlooking the existing transliteration. I was just discreetly improving what is already a good stub. We can help each other generously in Wikipedia. Cheers. Desde la Torre (talk) 10:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

See MOS:ARABIC. For myself, I'm happy to ditch basic transliteration in the article body and just use strict transliteration throughout, but this is not what most editors want. (It is what I do in articles I write from scratch, but the MOS does not fully support it.) In basic transliteration, ayn and hamza are not distinguished. Srnec (talk) 14:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

September 2024

Hello! I'm EmilySarah99. Your recent edit(s) to the page Eleanor of Aquitaine appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been reverted for now. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please see Style of the French sovereign before making further edits on the topic. EmilySarah99 (talk) 08:17, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

No, "Queen of France" is the normal term in English, regardless of the Latin, just as we do not insist on "King of the English" just because of the Latin rex Anglorum. Or how we use "Holy Roman Emperor" when no such title was ever used. Srnec (talk) 20:40, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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Bernardo Bembo

I'm puzzled as to why you removed the infobox I created for Bernardo Bembo. His page is listed under "pages that need infoboxes," and I had provided a comprehensive one. Could you explain why it was reverted back to its previous state? MeirKovner (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

It was not comprehensive. The article mentions several other ambassadorships and podesterie that were not included. Overall, I don't think an infobox is needed for this article. Srnec (talk) 01:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

This isn’t a hill I’m willing to die on, but I do want to point out my perspective on your reasoning. Why not simply add the missing offices instead of deleting the entire infobox? While you may personally feel an infobox isn’t necessary, the article has been manually placed in the “needs an infobox” category. Don’t you think it was added to that page for a reason? I understand you’ve been editing this article for years, and are emotionally invested in it. Would you be willing to add the offices that weren’t originally included rather than reverting all the work?? Best regards. MeirKovner (talk) 15:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

I think it was added to that category for no other reason than it was lacking an infobox and some users feel that every article should have one. I do not think that adding all his offices to an infobox or determining which of his offices deserve inclusion in an infobox is a great use of time or article space. Why do you think the article benefits from an infobox rather than, say, an expanded lead (which I am willing to do)? Srnec (talk) 20:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Apocalypse of the Bronx

Since the nomination closed before I could reply to your comment - my father is a huge Yankees fanatic. Therefore I am by definition a Yankees hater, so yeah, hahaha at them getting humiliated in that 5th inning. Go Mets / Phillies. (My paternal grandfather was a Cubs fan and not a Yankees fan either, and my father never lived in New York. It is a mystery.)

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Correction of Capital of the Holy Roman Empire (1220–1254)

Hi, It appears that you have indeed removed Foggia from the list of capitals of the HRE and i thank you for that, however, I noticed that you also removed Palermo, which was not my request. Palermo was indeed the capital of the Holy Roman Empire during Frederick II’s reign, this is supported by valid historical sources. I kindly ask you to reinstate Palermo in the Capital list from 1194 to 1254 with the past listed sources. Thank you once again. AstolfoPannaci (talk) 19:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Edits

Hello @Srnec, I would like to obtain your permission to return edits on the article on Gurzil and continue working on it, I would love if you want to monitor the article in case you want to keep track on changes made to it, if you would like to protect the article I do not mind if you deem it necessary that I consult you about changes first before making them. let me know what you would like to decide :) Lobus (talk) 00:37, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

@Srnec hello again, thank you for your honest suggestions on the article Gurzil, I have taken time to add sources to the publications that I have read on the deity, I will take a small break before I continue adding more and improving the historicity of the article, I would love if you would take a look, feel free to remove or modify what you see as unfit :) Lobus (talk) 22:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Io Saturnalia!

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WP:IDHT

When a rationale for why some element of a page title is inappropriate has been given in detail already, and agreed with by other respondents, and refuted by no one, then you showing up in WP:IDHT manner, with a WP:JUSTAVOTE / WP:ILIKEIT sort of "it should not be renamed" demand anyway that provides no rationale at all for why the guidelines should be set aside in this case, then your input is simply stressy noise that clouds the discussion, makes consensus harder for the closer to figure out, and is a drain on other editors' time, productivity, and goodwill. The purpose of RM (and similar discussions like XfD and RfC) is for the community to come to a consensus that is compliant with the policies and guidelines, with WP community norms, with the project's goals. It is not for gadflies to refuse to drop the stick about little peccadilloes they persist at but which the community has not accepted. In this particular case, there are guidelines (plus WP:CONCISE policy) very clearly against extraneously attaching years or ranges of years to titles of event articles except when they have to be disambiguated from another too-similiarly-named event. E.g., it's War of the Spanish Succession, not "War of the Spanish Succession (1701–1714)", and that is not going to change (not in general, and not for a particular country, conflict, etc., without an ambiguity that must be resolved for readers).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@SMcCandlish: What are you talking about? Srnec (talk) 21:45, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Most immediately: Talk:Rustamid succession crisis#Requested move 6 December 2024. "If it is a descriptive title, then `Rustamid crisis of 873–874` is the way to go" is flat-out wrong, and of course that pointless "pre-emptive disambiguation" with a date range was not what we used. PS: Please archive your talk page; 500+ threads is really excessive, especially on smaller devices or those without hardcore-gamer amounts of RAM.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  01:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

The move request was for Rustamid Crisis (873-874) → Rustamid crisis. I oppose that and stated my reason clearly: "We cannot decide, when titles are of our own invention, that this was the Rustamid crisis". We cannot create descriptive titles of the form "___ crisis/incident/affair". Naming events that way is common, but it isn't up to us. Such terms are far too vague unless we are following the direction of reliable sources. There are no GScholar hits for "Rustamid crisis". I supported a descriptive title, including the current one, Rustamid succession crisis. By "the way to go", I meant merely that the way to convert the then current title into a proper descriptive title was to de-capitalize it, switch to a hyphen and remove the parentheses. That is all. (Had I stumbled on the article before the RM, I would have performed such a move myself as noncontroversial.) I did not mean to indicate that it was the only way to go. By "perhaps" I only meant that I was not taking a positon on which of "Rustamid crisis of 873–874" and "Rustamid succession crisis" was superior, but I thought it was clear that I did not object to the latter. When Dicklyon pinged editors after the relist, he did not ping me. I assumed he understood from my comment that I supported it. So I think my comment was constructive in that it prevented the bad title "Rustamid crisis" from winning. This case is completely unlike "War of the Spanish Succession", which is actually a name that is normally capitalized. Of course it doesn't need dates. Descriptive titles are different and dates may well be the most useful part of the description. I have made this argument before, as when I unsuccessfully opposed moving Siege of Baghdad (1258). Given your own comment in the RM—It's likely this page should move to some other title entirely. This is clearly an attempt at a WP:NDESC title, but "crisis" is not necessarily a neutral enough term.—I don't know what you object to in my comment. Why do you think "Rustamid crisis" is compliant with the policies and guidelines? I don't.

Now on the topic of draining other editors' time, productivity, and goodwill... You come to my talkpage to accuse me of being a "gadfly" who refuses "to drop the stick about little peccadilloes they persist at but which the community has not accepted." I have no idea what you are thinking of. You accuse me of a WP:JUSTAVOTE / WP:ILIKEIT sort of "it should not be renamed" demand when I clearly supported a rename. Srnec (talk) 03:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 6 § States and territories (dis)established in YYYY

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Four years!

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Request

I would highly appreciate your comments on the article about the War of the Antiochene Succession at the review page. I will be away for two weeks with limited access to internet, but I would address all issues you raised as soon as I returned. Borsoka (talk) 04:33, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

I will look at it. Srnec (talk) 05:56, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Srnec. Thank you for your work on Lombard law. Another editor, Utopes, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Created with the edit summary to "restore". However, there is no previous history at this title. Where was this material restored from?

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Timeline of the Kingdom of Jerusalem

As usual, I am requesting your comments, now at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Timeline of the Kingdom of Jerusalem/archive2. I would highly appreciate your involvement because the list could obviously be improved. Borsoka (talk) 03:44, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Nicholas of Capraia

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DYK for Ruothild (daughter of Charlemagne)

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History of Christianity

I just want to say thank you for the prompt to add more on the East in this article. I argued at first - it meant more work and I really want to be done - but you were right, and the article has benefitted from it. Thank you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:55, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Glad to know it worked out! Srnec (talk) 01:21, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

I would be pleased if you took a look and agreed... Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:23, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

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Sunni Revival

Hi @Srnec, I hope you're doing good, I saw your edits in the page of Sunni Revival, Reverting users for making a military conflict infobox, So I was suggesting that why don't we make an infobox that is like similar to the one in the page of "Iranian Intermezzo" I would like to hear out your opinion. Best! R3YBOl (talk) 16:24, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

I don't think the article needs an infobox. Not every article does. Srnec (talk) 20:21, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 230, June 2025

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Queen Melisende FA nomination

Dear Srnec, I would be grateful for any comments that you might have about the Queen Melisende article, which I have nominated for FA. I am only bothering you because your immense contribution over the decades makes your input very valuable. Surtsicna (talk) 10:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Why?

Friend, I am befuddled by the changes to the disambiguation of Jack Lindsay (Writer) to be a redirect from Jack Lindsay (Writer) back to Jack Lindsay; the same individual. Please explain. (Sir Gerald Edits (talk) 02:04, 14 December 2019 (UTC))

Why do you erase my edition? アステール王子 (talk) 03:16, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Who says she's famous for being a purely female line ancestor of Queen Victoria? This is not a notable fact about her. Or do you have a source that says it is? Srnec (talk) 03:24, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, “famous“ was an inadequate expression, but she is a “purely“ female line ancestor of all of these big names, Queen Victoria, Wilhelm II, Edward VII, Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, last Queen consort Alexandra and last crown prince Alexei of Russian Empire, Victoria Eugenie, Queen consort of Spain, Ernest Louis of Hesse and by Rhine. I think this is very important fact about hirtory and her. アステール王子 (talk) 04:01, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

But what you think is an important fact is not necessarily what Wikipedia presents as an important fact. Why is lineal descent in the female line of any significance at all? Do any authors say it is? Does any author make the Garsenda–Victoria connection? We need reliable sources, not your own research. —Srnec (talk) 05:34, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Does a fact even need to be important in order to be a fact? The whole reason Wikipedia is an uncitable source is because "facts" on it are too often voted "true" by popular opinion. Silver Dante (talk) 07:24, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

OK.I understood. Sorry. アステール王子 (talk) 03:32, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Crusades

	WikiProject Crusades
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Orion (constellation) move request

Just wanted to let you know that what you did at the move request debate was not in line with the Wikipedia guidelines. Since you did not change it back I assume you were not aware. You wrote 'do not !vote more than once', while the guidelines clearly state: 'The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.' and 'When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text'. Changing someone else's edits afterwards, without knowing the guidelines, might not be the best idea. Stevinger (talk) 03:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

I wanted to come back to what I wrote. In the meantime our closer explained to me the concept of !vote among Wikipedians. I wanted to apologize, since it seems you clearly knew more than me. My comment might have seemed very unfair, which the edit did to me at the time, too, as the guidelines were telling me this is no vote and that changing other person's edits without a good reason is always disruptive. I suggested to our closer to include the rules about !voting somewhere in the guidelines, so fairly new people like me can easily find them. (I have seen several people !voting more than once in debates, btw in the current one also again, which let's me assume there are several other people not knowing about it either.) Hope you are having a nice day. Stevinger (talk) 13:58, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

No prob. Srnec (talk) 23:50, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Archbishopric of Salzburg disambiguation page

Hello,

I don't disagree at all with your change to Archbishopric of Salzburg on 19 July 2025. Just letting you know that changing a redirect leaves disambiguation loose ends similar to a page move. WP:POSTMOVE There are currently around 200 articles linking to this disambiguation page. Thank you.

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Guy, Duke of Sorrento

I realise that you have created the page two decades ago, but where did you get your sources from? If you don't remember, that's fine and just consider this a belated thanks for creating that page. however, if you do then I'd also be grateful, thank you for your time. 🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 22:40, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Probably John Julius Norwich's The Normans in the South and Ferdinand Chalandon's Histoire de la domination normande en Italie et en Sicile. I'm a little surprised that I didn't cite any sources even back then, but I probably created it while I was reading those books. Srnec (talk) 00:55, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Why langr?

In answer to your question: Proper names are not italicized per se, the italics are coming separately via MOS:MAJORWORK. We have this issue because we do not (yet) use semantic mark-up. WP:WIP 🤷 HTH Paradoctor (talk) 19:38, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

But foreign language is generally italicized. I don't think non-English proper names in general need language tagging. The names of works, which are translatable, do. Why not just use lang instead of langr plus italics? I do not know what semantic mark-up is. Srnec (talk) 19:55, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

I don't think non-English proper names in general need language tagging MOS:LANG makes no exceptions. Wouldn't make sense, accessibility with exceptions isn't accessibility.

generally italicized Except when it's not. I did link to the relevant guideline above.

I do not know what semantic mark-up is It's marking up text with tags indicating meaning rather than presentation. Italics are presentation, they do not tell a client whether Glugop is a MAJORWORK, a foreign word, a shipname, or a combination, or whatever else. See also separation of content and presentation. Paradoctor (talk) 22:08, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

Does Xi Jinping need language tagging? I would call it a non-English proper name that does not need language tagging.

The guideline you linked has as an example {{lang|fr|Les Liaisons dangereuses}}, which is exactly what I would have used. It seems to me that it is hard to say whether the italics in a foreign language title of a major work are there because it is a major work (since they would be there even if it were translated into English) or because it is foreign (since italics are often used for foreign titles of minor works that wouldn't have them in English—in my experience).

Thank you for your explanation of semantic markup. Srnec (talk) 00:18, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

Does Xi Jinping need language tagging? Yes. This a romanization of a Chinese proper name. It needs a tag, like this: {{langr|zh-Latn|Xi Jinping}}

There are instances where foreign words are not foreign words: loanwords, which constitute ~80% of the English vocabulary. For example, "Peking", which you can find in English dictionaries, is a loanword, so a Chinese-language tag would be wrong. OTOH, "Buxtehude" is German. The last sentence in MOS:NONENGITALIC is about this.

example As I said, WP:WIP. Semantic tagging is still in its infancy on Wikipedia. Try a random article with a non-English title, and check for yourself how many non-English many words and phrases are correctly tagged. And this is etablished, clear-cut policy, not something new. Good thing there is no WP:DEADLINE. ;)

hard to say whether [...] major work [...] or because it is foreign With semantic markup, it could be both or either. That is the very point I made in my previous comment. A screen reader cannot tell whether to switch language when encountering (presentational) italics markup. An IETF language solves this particular problem. Paradoctor (talk) 09:54, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

Reference check

In your initial version of the article Rostagnus, you reference a dissertation "Franz Hemmann, Consonantismus des Gascognischen bis zum Ende des dreizehnten Jahrhunderts, PhD diss., University of Jena, 1888, p. 63" and even give a link to a Google doc. It is impossible for me to see whether the linked page actually has to do anything with the article subject, but the page in the Google doc you linked to is part of another dissertation (Josef Hengsbach, Beitrag zur Lehre von der Inclination im Provenzalischen, PhD diss., University of Marburg, 1885). The beginning of the Google doc shows that it's a compilation of eleven different works. Could you check and fix that? --MarioS (talk) 05:50, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

Not sure what happened here, as I can find nothing in either dissertation about the name in question. I can, however, find something on p. 63 of this German dissertation. I have switched the citation. I can only assume that I switched to the wrong tab or something while putting the citation together. Srnec (talk) 16:09, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 August 17 § Category:Algerian writers in French

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Foundation for medieval genealogy

Hello, you recently noted on William X of Auvergne that the Foundation for medieval genealogy is a deprecated source. Why is that? I'm worried, since I've been using that a lot recently. I'm not really an expert on the topic but it looks like a good gateway for primary sources (even if I found that they get somethings wrong). Also, if that is unusuable, would citing their sources be a viable option? Tim mick (talk) 05:26, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

@Tim mick: I'm not sure there is a single place where Charles Cawley's Medieval Lands Project was deprecated as a reliable source for Wikipedia, but this comes closest. I myself never participated in discussions of its reliability. Coincidentally, I used it just yesterday and it gave me a reliable secondary source to cite. See Oveco Vermúdez. Wikipedia generally prefers secondary sources to primary. Srnec (talk) 14:03, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

Oh, ok. You wrote "FMG is a deprecated source" and I thought you meant that, I must have misunderstood. What did you mean? Tim mick (talk) 15:31, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

I meant that the Medieval Lands Project hosted by FMG is a deprecated source. There has been a strong effort to purge it from Wikipedia. See the RFD I linked to and the discussions it links back to. You should probably not cite it directly at all, as it is considered the non-peer reviewed project of one person and he not a subject-matter expert. Srnec (talk) 22:26, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

Ok, now I understand, I'll refrain from using Medieval Lands from now on, thank you Tim mick (talk) 05:18, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

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Hello, have you seen this page? Doesn't it violate WP:SYNTH and WP:FRINGE? I feel it represents Shepard's very tenuous speculations about the existence of Anglo-Saxon settlements "somewhere on the Black Sea coast" as fact. -- Ghirla^-трёп- 18:38, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

• Anyway, considering that no archaeological trace of Anglo-Saxon settlement in the region has been found since Shepard put forward his theory in 1974, something like Theory of Anglo-Saxon settlement of the Black Sea area would be a more appropriate name for this article, no? --Ghirla^-трёп- 18:41, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I've seen it. In fact, I remember when it was created. The original stable form of the article is this. The sections on "Linguistic evidence" and "Dialectology" are later additions. I think they can be removed. Far too speculative and poor sourcing. (I like Caitlin Green's blog and it is scholarly, but I don't think it is generally good RS for Wikipedia.) In fact, I think very little that has been added since 2009 is valuable. It detracts from the article. I would cut everything after the sentence that begins "Shepard thus reinterprets..." (I find the sentence immediately following too speculative.)

However, I don't think we should frame it as a theory of Anglo-Saxon settlement—I think that minimizes/downplays the primary sources. That is, the settlement is explicitly stated in the sources. The question is their accuracy and reliability. D. M. Nicol, "Byzantium and England" (not cited in article), sees the two sources as the "account of Orderic Vitalis ... amplified and embellished". Christopher Hobbs, in Brill's Companion to Byzantium and the West, 900–1204 (also uncited), concludes: "It by no means seems implausible that some Anglo-Saxons could have left Constantinople in order to settle on the Black Sea. It is difficult, however, to determine its size and significance given the limited source material." Here is a Russian source (that has an English translation!).

I wonder if it might not make more sense to expand the article to cover Anglo-Saxons in the Varangian Guard and leave this story as just one aspect of that more certain development. The creator of the page is still (semi-)active on Wikipedia. Srnec (talk) 03:06, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Pope Lando

I saw that you changed the start date to September back in December 2016. Could you provide a source for this specific date? Otherwise, if the other three sources are unreliable to you, it would make more sense to change it to July-November, given the uncertainty. Szibre (talk) 01:11, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

"circa September" means "around September", so it isn't saying September with any certainty. Here is a source for July–November. I have amended the article. We have a document from February 914 and the Liber pontificalis says he reigned 4+ months, which I suspect is the basis for the November date. Depending on when after his last mention you place his death, you can get a September start date on the basis of the Liber. Srnec (talk) 01:45, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

Of course circa means around. now I understend why you chooce september in the begining.

thanks for your new edit, it looks perfect. Szibre (talk) 01:58, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

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what is "infobox creep"?

Yesterday you reverted 3 of my edits on the pages Teqorideamani, Talakhidamani, and Yesebokheamani with the cited reason of reverting "infobox creep". This is confusing to me as I was not able to find any policy, MOS, or essay pages that mention infobox creep. I kind of get the idea of what you mean from just the name but I cant be sure. however, under the assumption that infobox creep refers to infoboxes appearing on pages they are not needed or wanted, I disagree that my edits fall under this category. I think that all Kushite kings should have an infobox for navigation, consistency, and readability reasons and I don't understand why those three in particular had theirs removed when every other Kushite monarch's page, including others I added a infobox to at the same time didn't. PharaohCrab (talk) 12:23, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Because they popped up on my watchlist is why. Compare scope creep, feature creep, etc. When you say every other Kushite monarch's page, including others I added you seem to admit that there wasn't really any consistency at all. The essay that explains my view (at least in part) is Wikipedia:Disinfoboxes. In the particular case of these articles, my view is that they are short and there is lots of uncertainty. We do not need a box to repeat what is in the first sentence. If consistency is that important, perhaps we should have a wider discussion at a relevant WikiProject. Srnec (talk) 14:08, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

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Reverting a recent edit

Dear Srnec,

I thought I might reach out regarding an august 2025 edit you made on the Matara, Eritrea page. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Matara,_Eritrea&direction=next&oldid=1284722544 You replaced the lead image, but I believe that image is attributed incorrectly to this location. The metadata coordinates of the image do not match Matara, and I believe the Qohaito page shows the concerns the same columns. I'm would ask whether you would agree that the image should be removed from the matara page.

The flickr discription seems to be copied from the Matara wikipedia page and/or official government sources, https://shabait.com/2012/09/14/historical-site-of-matara/ In this case I think the Government source is copied/plagiarized from the Wikipage.

Futhermore I had a question since you seem to be an experienced constructive editor. I wonder the Hawulti (monument) page could be merged with the Matara page. It is the only visible object at the site. ''the only remaining feature today is the “obelisk” (stele engraved with an inscription)''

https://journals.openedition.org/palethnologie/5690

It's has significant notability p579 https://legal.un.org/riaa/cases/vol_XXVI/505-630.pdf

Kind regards SarahSmithLay (talk) 02:08, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

I don't think I would merge those two pages (Hawulti and Matara) because the former is also about an inscription, best considered in its own article than in an article on a site. I have no objection to reverting the image change, but I have no knowledge about the site. I just tried to improve the image from Commons. Srnec (talk) 01:29, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

Dear Srnec,

Thank you for your response and sharing your thoughts on both points.

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Hello. I saw your past contributions on the article Fascist Italy which is remarkable. But I just wanna ask about your opinion on changing the article's infobox into the historical era instead of the infobox country format. I believe Fascist Italy can be a broad topic where it can either describe the Kingdom of Italy from 1922 and 1943 or the Italian Social Republic from 1943 to 1945. Thanks. RatMan7108 (talk) 06:43, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

That article used to be called Kingdom of Italy under Fascism and I still think that's a better title. I doubt there will be much support for expanding the scope to cover the Italian Social Republic. I have no objection to changing the infobox. Srnec (talk) 18:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Yeah. That's what I thought also. The Vargas Era article also uses the historical era infobox. But I don't think we're gonna reach good concensus though. There's only few watchers on that page. And also I made a comment about this on the article's talk page.RatMan7108 (talk) 00:01, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

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@Srnec:: Hello, could you please create the page British occupation of Batum with just a redirect to History of Adjara#British occupation, basically please write this code - #REDIRECT History of Adjara#British occupation

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It just would look nicer for pages which cite this article, because right now it does not exists but after this it would redirect them to the relevant information instead of blank page. This would also be justified. I can not create the page with temporary account and also I don't want to create an ordinary account and wait for three days for such a small thing. Please, your help would be very appreciated. ~2025-35973-62 (talk) 20:08, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

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Draftifying articles

Please note the first line of WP:DRAFTNO, as well as the cited RfC, which states that articles more than 90 days old must not be draftified. Also what does "sources are too old" mean? – bradv 01:10, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

It means the sources are unreliable. Alberic, Count of Hainaut, for example, cites not a single source from the 20th or 21st centuries. Its citations include sources from 1549 and 1645. Sources like these cannot be taken at face value for the history of an aristocratic family. They are, in short, not reliable. Srnec (talk) 01:24, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I suggest sending them to AfD. Drafts get auto-deleted in six months without any review, which is why we only use that for very new articles that still have people working on them. – bradv 01:31, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Ah. I had forgotten about that (autodeletion). It was not my intention to delete these by stealth. Thing is, while I'm sure the articles as they stand are basically worthless and would be no loss, I am not sure that none of them could be a legitimate article. I have tagged them for unreliable sources. Srnec (talk) 01:43, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Yeah no worries. That's why we have a filter to catch these sorts of moves, and there are a few of us that watch for them. – bradv 01:50, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, you recently performed a page move of Capture of Le Quesnoy to Capture of Le Quesnoy (1918) which I am trying to get my head around. It looks as though it was done as part of work for disambiguation of Siege of Le Quesnoy although I am not sure that was entirely necessary as the 1918 action was quite distinct from a siege (when creating the article, I used "Capture of..." since that was how my sources generally described it). Anyhow, the query I have is why "Capture of Le Quesnoy (1918)" shows up here (see line 298) with an assessment of redirect when the page title, date, and size values are all for the article page itself. Shouldn't the assessment be GA as shown on the talk page? Cheers, Zawed (talk) 21:55, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

P.S. I thought the issue may have been an incorrect redirect on one of the talk pages so changed that to what I thought it should have been, but a bot has since reverted it. I probably shouldn't have touched it anyway as I'm not great on the intricacies of page moves. Zawed (talk) 22:01, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure why Xtools shows the wrong page assessment, but I suspect it will self-correct soon. As for the move, that was because Le Quesnoy has been captured many times, even more than our dab page shows. See fr:Siège du Quesnoy. Srnec (talk) 23:24, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

OK thanks. Zawed (talk) 10:11, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

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