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Draft declinedThank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Your draft submission to Articles for creation has been reviewed but not accepted at this time.
FeedbackThe reviewer, ChrysGalley, left the following feedback:
Having gone through this in some detail, it appears that AI / LLM or similar has been used here, and that isn't allowed in drafts. I removed some examples (three uses of the word "commonly" for example, when it absolutely is not common). But some of the other language is woolly when the underlying research is quite specific and the Rule of Three is all over this. It was also notable that though every single source is available online (thus available to LLM), all the references as presented were offline. I have fixed the first half dozen with online references, and I would suggest the author does the others. Find an accurate DOI, which begins with the number 10, then run it through:
Thank you for the considerable time you spent reviewing this article, and for directing me to citer.toolforge, which I have now used to add the remaining DOIs and links to the references.
The content of the article is my own. I have used AI tools in a limited way, previously for citation formatting (now using citer) and to help clarify complicated concepts, but not to generate text. My research relies heavily on JSTOR and similar subscription databases, which I access through my institutional login and I believe not available to LLMs. I use the sources directly when developing the article reading all or part of every source I cite to evaluate how it should be used.
That said, I accept that some phrasing may reflect that process, and that my use of "wooly" hedging language in trying to summarise specific arguments needs improvement. I have been revising the article in response to your feedback to make the text more precise and better aligned with the sources.
I would like to continue developing this article. “Co-ethnic networks” is an established term in sociology and economics and is not currently covered on Wikipedia. Any suggestions would be appreciated and I will consult my assigned mentor.JondeJon1 (talk) 13:08, 18 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
If it helps (and actually it doesn't) I am also trying to write up an article on an established concept used in academic circles, and it's by far the hardest article I have ever written. And still in unsubmitted draft form since I can see it's not good enough. My only suggestion is to find 3 sources with the best coverage, maybe up to 5 such sources but no more. Just read them, then do some bullet points on each article. Try to merge the bullet points, don't worry about nice language at this stage. Then check the merged version is totally supported by those good sources. Then do some language improvement, but don't overdo it, there isn't a requirement for beautiful English. There is a requirement not to use LLM and that is still coming through. If you do that bullet point method, you are unlikely to find LLM helpful or worthwhile anyway since the end result will be fairly short and concise. But it should be OK for mainspace. Later on it can be improved further, but ultimately we summarise reliable sources, not elaborate on them. ChrysGalley (talk) 13:18, 18 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
thank you for the suggestion. I will take your advice and take my time. My sources are excellent and so I have a good starting point.JondeJon1 (talk) 13:52, 18 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
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Draft declinedThank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Your draft submission to Articles for creation has been reviewed but not accepted at this time.
FeedbackThe reviewer, ChrysGalley, left the following feedback:
provide significant coverage: discuss the person in detail, not brief mentions or interviews lacking independent analysis;
are reliable: from reputable outlets with editorial oversight;
are independent: not connected to the person, such as interviews, press releases, the subject's own website, or sponsored content.
Please add references that meet all three of these criteria. If none exist, the subject is not yet suitable for Wikipedia.
Two core problems here: the WP:GOLDENRULE is not met here, since we have to exclude interviews, self published material and PR pieces. Forbes is "Forbes Contributor", so he paid for that article, see WP:RSP. I can't see significant coverage by a truly independent source describing his life and works.
Second issue: source 2 does not mention his wife/children (and is another PR company). There are other examples of this, which gives me the impression that AI / LLM was used here to give fuzzy sourcing.
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