Jabsa54

Your submission at Articles for creation: Javier Pérez González (October 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Hoary were:

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 The comment the reviewer left was:

This is full of vague language, perhaps in an attempt to aggrandize Pérez. Examples: (1) The thematic axes of his work focus on aspects related to the human condition, addressing inherent themes such as impermanence, temporality, transformation and the cyclical nature of existence. How can an axis focus? "Inherent" in what? (2) he established his first contacts with the French art scene What is the meaning of an "art scene"? Does this mean "first swapped email addresses with some French artists", and if not, then what does it mean? (3) he was selected to represent Spain at the 49th Venice Biennale, which was a milestone in his professional career What does this actually mean, and who says this?

Do not attempt to impress the reader. Attempt to inform the reader.

Javier Pérez's works are included in numerous public collections, including -- and then an unreferenced list. Every such claim must be referenced, of course independently of Pérez. --

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Hoary (talk) 08:03, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Jabsa54! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Hoary (talk) 08:03, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

PS

Above, the template says: "If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies." It definitely looks worthy of inclusion. But you have to make the description sound dispassionate.

Incidentally, I've just changed a lot of examples of language=es en (and similar) to language=en. That's because (i) the syntax of the "cite" templates simply doesn't permit more than one value; and (ii) we can assume that readers of your draft-which-surely-will-become-an-article can read English, but not that they can read any other language. The solution (?) of mine may be unfortunately simplistic: it's entirely possible that (for example) a book has full texts in Spanish and only summaries of these in English. In the latter case, please switch from "en" to "es"; and consider adding "With English summaries." (or whatever else would be accurate and helpful) immediately after the "Cite" template but before the closing "</ref>".

All the best with the draft! -- Hoary (talk) 08:34, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi Hoary (talk), Thank you very much for your encouraging message and your comments, which will undoubtedly be of great help to me. It was never my intention to praise the author, and I am sorry if you interpreted it that way. After reading your comments, I can clearly see my mistakes, so I will try to neutralise the article as much as possible.

I also wanted to mention that, if it is finally accepted, I intend to title the article “Javier Pérez (visual artist)”, as this is how he is known in the professional world. What do you think of this option instead of “Javier Pérez González“?

Best regards Jabsa54 (talk) Jabsa54 (talk) 17:38, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

I appreciate your concern, but you really don't have to worry. "Javier Pérez González" would not be a suitable title; "Javier Pérez" normally would. But as you've seen, the disambiguation page "Javier Pérez" already exists. The task now is to "disambiguate" this newly added "Javier Pérez" as neatly and unobtrusively as possible from the other "Javier Pérez"es who have articles. As articles titled "Javier Pérez (musician)", "Javier Pérez (filmmaker)", etc don't exist, "visual" is unnecessary. "Javier Pérez (artist)" would I think be best. But in the worst case, a reviewer might sleepily overlook your suggestion and instead create the article "Javier Pérez González". If so, you could point out on the article's talk page that (i) an article about a person is titled with the person's commonest name; (ii) "Javier Pérez González" is not a commonly used form of his name, whereas "Javier Pérez" is, and (iii) this article should be renamed ("moved to") "Javier Pérez (artist)" -- or if you insist, "Javier Pérez (visual artist)" -- just as we don't have articles titled "Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz" or "José Alberto Mujica Cordano". Such an argument would be persuasive. (There's also nothing about this that's specific to people from the Spanish-speaking world. The articles about Michael Philip Jagger, Joan Anita Barbara Armatrading and Joshua Paul Davis are simply titled Mick Jagger, Joan Armatrading and DJ Shadow.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:57, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi Hoary (talk)I completely agree, as you say, I think the best option would be Javier Pérez (artist). I don't know if it would be a good idea to add a note to the draft so that the potential reviewer takes this into account.

In any case, the important thing now is to work on the review and make the necessary changes so that the article complies with the required standards. I hope I can rise to the challenge.

One last question: what is the procedure for reviewing it once I have made those changes?

I apologise, but as you can see, I am quite inexperienced and I would not want to make a mistake. Thank you very much for everything. Best regards. Jabsa54 Jabsa54 (talk) 15:12, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Simple! When you think the draft is ready, click on "Resubmit". (As I view the page, this is a dark blue quasi-button.)

And a simple problem. Javier Pérez González (1968-) is a contemporary Spanish visual artist. [...] In his artistic practice, the Basque artist has [...]. As I hazily understand Spanish/Basque affairs, for most Spaniards and most Basques, there's no contradiction in saying that one is Spanish and Basque. However, for some (underinformed? sleepy?) readers, it may seem as if somebody is saying that they're Han Chinese and Uyghur – or just an editorial mistake. -- Hoary (talk) 23:19, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi Hoary (talk) Sorry for the delayed response to your last message. Thank you for the information.

I find the question you raise about the author's Basque origins interesting. In this regard, I should mention that the autonomous communities in Spain are deeply rooted, and it is normal to refer to the Basque artist or the Catalan surgeon, for example, without raising any doubts about their Spanish nationality. However, it is true that this can lead to confusion from other countries. Having consulted articles on famous Basque artists in the English Wikipedia, I have found that they are all referred to as Spanish artists without any reference to their Basque origin. Therefore, I think it is best to remove the phrase 'the Basque artist'. This is especially the case considering their origin is already mentioned at some point in the biography.

I appreciate your comments, which have been very helpful. As soon as I have the time, I will start revising the draft and try to improve it as much as possible. Once it is ready, I would be very grateful if you could review it and provide feedback. It has taken me several months to complete, and I would be very disappointed if it were rejected again. Best regards and thanks again. Jabsa54 (talk) 10:12, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Javier Pérez (artist) has been accepted

Javier Pérez (artist), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

Theroadislong (talk) 16:53, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks!!! Jabsa54 (talk) 18:21, 28 October 2025 (UTC)