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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:MIT Engineers men's track and field athletes

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:MIT Engineers track and field

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Thanks, these are now populated again. --Habst (talk) 19:05, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Mohamed Asswai Khalifa

On 12 June 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mohamed Asswai Khalifa, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mohamed Asswai Khalifa was the first Libyan to compete at the Olympics? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mohamed Asswai Khalifa. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mohamed Asswai Khalifa), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Template:Grand Slam Track

the philly wikidata thing was not actually pointing to the philly wikidata thingy. i changed the third element in the list here to the actual one.you seem like the main guy in charge so i'm just telling you in case you were confused
Thanks, Plastixfy (talk) 05:13, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

not the template; i changed the module. my bad
Thanks, Plastixfy (talk) 05:14, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, it looks like the Wikidata items were merged. --Habst (talk) 12:42, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Charles Moses (sprinter)

On 14 June 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Charles Moses (sprinter), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Charles Moses competed at the 1984 Summer Olympics, despite previously fabricating claims of his Olympic participation? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Moses (sprinter). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Charles Moses (sprinter)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Jalal Keshmiri

Hi, You reverted my edits about Sayed Mirza Molimadail, no person with such a name exists. that's the same as Jalal Keshmiri. those birthday dates are wrong. I have several sources in Persian but you can take this one which is the official website of Iran NOC. somewhere in middle of the article this mentions جلال کشمیری (Jalal Keshmiri) participating and failing to get results. I'm going to revert your edits, if you need more links, let me know.Sports2021 (talk) 15:13, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

This probably helps. this is a screenshot from 1964 Olympics official report. this time he is listed as S. J. Mirzamolimadail K., Iranian names are sometimes too long. but S.J.K. stands for Seyed Jalal Keshmiri (you can always drop the Seyed part when it comes to Iranian names) Sports2021 (talk) 15:20, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

@Sports2021, thank you for reaching out.

At first, I wasn't quite buying it, but I have to admit I found this clip that convinced me: https://www.newspapers.com/article/reno-gazette-journal-packs-keshmiri-lea/174492290/

I also found other sources that say he competed in 1960 as well but I don't see any record of that -- maybe a non-starter that wasn't listed? This source even lists him as a "four-time Olympian" -- the only way I can make sense of that is if it's including a DNS in 1960 and his expected participation in 1972 that didn't end up happening.

Can you please add the source for the screenshot into the article so that we can put his full name (i.e. something like "Sayed Jalal Ali Keshmiri Mirzamolimadail") in the lede? --Habst (talk) 15:36, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm a bit lazy to go back and read some books I have about that specific Olympics but He surely didn't participate in 1960 Rome. maybe he went there and a late injury prevented him but I can't confirm that. I will add that source but I was checking to see what Mirzamolimadail means but can't find anything, that word doesn't make sense in Persian, it can be Mirza Molimad-Ali (which explains that Ali thing in his name) but then Molimad has no meaning in Persian. (probably a typo?) Sports2021 (talk) 17:46, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

@Sports2021, thanks. One other question; do you know what explains the birth date discrepancy or what the correct DOB is? "Molimadail" has a listed DOB of 14 February 1938 while Keshmiri has a DOB of 25 March 1939. Further complicating things, obituaries list "25 March 1938": https://www.newspapers.com/article/reno-gazette-journal-obituary-for-joe-ke/174622508/ . All three birth dates would make him 60 at time of death as reported by the AP, which doesn't help. --Habst (talk) 15:27, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

I just checked persian sources and they only say he was born in "Farvardin 1313" (that's in Persian calendar) which is somewhere around 20 March to 20 April 1938. so I think 25 March 1939 is more likely to be accurate. Sports2021 (talk) 16:04, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

@Sports2021, when I look at Persian Solar Hirji calendar converters online, they say Favardin 1313 ranges from 21 March 1934 to to 20 April 1934 (four years before the three Gregorian dates we have). Are you sure it's not a different year? --Habst (talk) 16:39, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

It was just my mistake, 1317 is the correct year. Sports2021 (talk) 17:34, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Stats

Holy cow, your avarage page size leapfrogged from just below 10K to 38K!, which is definitely one of the greatest avarages for users with at least 500 articles. I'm sure you are very proud of this achievment. Congrats. Luis7M (talk) 20:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

I think average page size stats are a little flawed to draw any conclusions from that, but thank you! --Habst (talk) 23:54, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Relay substitutions

I have an athletics-related question, maybe you are able to help. Do you happen to know where it is specified how many substitutions can be made in relays at area and world championships and the Olympics? It seems to vary from year to year. – Editør (talk) 20:24, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

@Editør, thanks for reaching out. I asked a buddy about this and he pointed to World Athletics Series regulations, which has different rules per competition (see the "Entry Rules" section for each competition type):

• World Athletics Championships: 6 per relay
• World Athletics U20 Championships: Unclear to me but seems like only 4 may be entered per team
• World Athletics Indoor Championships: 8 per relay (i.e. you can do completely different teams between semis and final)
• World Athletics Cross Country Championships (mixed relay): 4 men and 4 women, 2 men and 2 women start
• World Athletics Race Walking Team Championships (marathon mixed relay): 3 teams per country can start
• World Athletics Relays: 8 per relay

-- Habst (talk) 01:22, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you both. From the maximum number of team members it follows which athletes can be selected or substituted, but I am not completely convinced that the allowed substitution total can be inferred from this maximum as well. I noticed that appendix 6 about substitutions is unavailable online (source), not sure if this (also) covers this kind of substitution. In this short video from the Olympics channel, the commentator said "You can change out one runner" in the mixed relay, so it seemed that only one substitution was allowed between round 1 and the final of the mixed relay, but I couldn't find any text document to directly support or refute that, I found no information about this in this text about qualification or elsewehere. – Editør (talk) 09:09, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:PZLA

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Khaled Khalifa Al-Shammari

This is a question regarding his purported tenure as an international footballer. For football we have a resource https://www.national-football-teams.com which doesn't go as far back as 1972 for Kuwait. On the other hand, I don't find the claim believeable: "Khalifa began his athletic career as a goalkeeper for the Kuwait national football team in 1972". It's not common to begin one's career in the national team, they typically get selected following other accomplishments. Also, he was 15 years old in 1972, which makes the international play even less likely - not impossible, but highly unlikely. Do you remember what the source said, and is it reliable? Is it supposed to be a national youth team? Geschichte (talk) 22:33, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Geschichte, thanks for reaching out.

I'm not an expert in football so will try to get this right. My source for the football claims were the reference at the end of that paragraph, which says in the third paragraph (translated), "As for the hero Khalifa [...] he began his career as a goalkeeper for the Khaitan football team in 1972, before moving on to track and field, winning 38 medals, the most famous of which was the silver medal in the 800m at the 1981 Asian Championships in Tokyo".

On re-read, it seems like "Khatian" is a reference to Khaitan SC so I'll update the sentence to say that instead -- I think I misread that as "Kuwaiti" or an earlier translation I used was inaccurate. Thanks for catching.

P.S. Can you please reconsider taking action on User talk:Geschichte#Re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mopeli Molapo now that the AfD has closed? I'm aware that the debate is archived but I don't agree with the "gaming the system" accusation, I don't think it's assuming good faith, and would appreciate if you could either strike that or clarify on the AfD talk page. Thanks, --Habst (talk) 02:33, 28 July 2025 (UTC)

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@Fram, you are the other party in the content dispute. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Olympics#Creating a list of Olympic competitors. --Habst (talk) 12:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Olympic competitors (Aa–Ak) for deletion

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Reverted edits

Hi Habst, I reverted this edit. The RFC is already ongoing with !votes already on the board, and indeed editors stating that it is a useful discussion to have. The question therefore should not be change halfway through. If you wish to add additional questions, do this in an additional discussion or separate RFC. FOARP (talk) 13:40, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, I've responded here. --Habst (talk) 13:56, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

Women in Green's 9th Edit-a-thon

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WikiGameJam NYC

Note that I'll be at the inaugural WikiGameJam NYC hackathon this weekend working on what I hope will be an impactful new tool. Looking forward to meeting you all IRL and sharing the results after. --Habst (talk) 18:35, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of List of Olympic competitors (Om–Oz)

A tag has been placed on List of Olympic competitors (Om–Oz) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

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@Liz, thanks, I will nominate all of these Special:PrefixIndex/List of Olympic competitors redirects to draftspace under speedy deletion with {{db-r2}}. --Habst (talk) 01:25, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

 Done That's taken care of. I hope all of these pages are where they should be. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:27, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

They are per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Olympics#Keeping the articles, thanks and apologies for the bother. --Habst (talk) 01:30, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

Draft:Carl Lawson (sprinter)

@Habst - Nice work on Draft:Carl Lawson (sprinter). — ERcheck (talk) 01:36, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

@ERcheck Thanks, I only just got through his first season of coverage! I think this will be a GA candidate for sure -- I acknowledge that having a ton of one-line stubs for Pan American champs isn't ideal but I wonder if just having the {{Footer Pan American Champions 4x100m Men}} template present could count as a 'indication of importance' re: A7 deletion. I'm currently working on developing a tool to add SIGCOV to articles like these to protect them from A7/WP:SPORTCRIT prong 5 PROD deletion in the future. -- Habst (talk) 01:51, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

@Habst - I think that the assertion of significance should be in the body of the article, not in a footer (which might be missed). Adding a sentence to the lead that says the subject was a member of a Pan American 4x100m championship team should suffice. That said, I've found that it is sometimes the case that nominators equate assertion of significance with notability when making a A7 speedy delete nomination. — ERcheck (talk) 02:39, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

@ERcheck, thank you. I created a script to find the Pan Am gold medalist stubs so that we can add an A7-satisfying sentence to the ledes, and this should be done for the relay medalists now. I've moved Carl Lawson (sprinter) back to mainspace and nominated it for GA; I'd appreciate your review if you have the time. --Habst (talk) 18:41, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

@Habst - Well done to taken it from a deletion-nominated stub to a full, detailed, FA-nominated article! — ERcheck (talk) 18:44, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Nomination for discussion of Template:Kenyan Athletics Championships and trials

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Michigan Community College Athletic Association track and field

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A barnstar for you!

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		Thanks for all your contributions to CFD this year, even especially when we respectfully disagree. RevelationDirect (talk) 13:45, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you and same to you -- and apologies for the late response, I've been recovering from a mild concussion since December but I think I am ready to begin editing again and hopefully have a similarly packed year of contributions in 2026. --Habst (talk) 18:25, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

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February 2026

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Thanks @Zackmann08, I meant to remove the group2 params so they wouldn't conflict. Done in Special:Diff/1340415554. --Habst (talk) 15:50, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:2015 World Youth Championships in Athletics – Boys' javelin throw

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