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The Signpost: 08 October 2012
- News and notes: Education Program faces community resistance
Wikipedia in education is far from a new idea: years of news stories, op-eds, and editorials have focused on the topic; and on Wikipedia itself, the Schools and universities projects page has existed in various forms since 2003. Over the next six years, the page was rarely developed, and when it did advance there was no clear goal in mind.
- WikiProject report: Ten years and one million articles: WikiProject Biography
On this day five years ago, the WikiProject Report debuted as a new Signpost column with an overview of WikiProject Biography. Today, we're celebrating two milestone: five years of the WikiProject Report and the tenth birthday of our first featured project. WikiProject Biography is by far the largest WikiProject on Wikipedia, with over one million articles under the project's scope. As a comparison, WikiProject Biography is three times larger than Wikipedia's second largest project, and if WikiProject Biography were split into its 14 subprojects and work groups, it would still make the list of the 20 largest WikiProjects... four times.
- Featured content: A dash of Arsenikk
This week the Signpost interviews Arsenikk, an editor of six years who has brought sixteen lists through our featured list process, mostly regarding transportation in Norway but also about the 1952 Winter Olympics and World Heritage Sites in Africa. Arsenikk tells us about why he joined the project, what moves him, and how editors can join the sometimes daunting world of featured lists.
- Technology report: The ups and downs of September and October, plus extension code review analysis
The Wikimedia Foundation's engineering report for September 2012 was published this week on the Wikimedia Techblog and on the MediaWiki wiki, giving an overview of all Foundation-sponsored technical operations in that month (as well as brief coverage of progress on Wikimedia Deutschland's Wikidata project, phase 1 of which is edging its way towards its first deployment). Three of the seven headline items in the report have already been covered in the Signpost: problems with the corruption of several Gerrit (code) repositories, the introduction of widespread translation memory across Wikimedia wikis, and the launch of the "Page Curation" tool on the English Wikipedia, with development work on that project now winding down. The report also drew attention to the end of Google Summer of Code 2012, the deployment to the English Wikipedia of a new ePUB (electronic book) export feature, and improvements to the WLM app aimed at more serious photographers.
- Discussion report: Closing RfAs: Stewards or Bureaucrats?; Redesign of Help:Contents
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include ...
The Signpost: 15 October 2012
- Op-ed: AdminCom: A proposal for changing the way we select admins
There is wide agreement among English Wikipedians that the administrator system is in some ways broken—but no consensus on how to fix it. Most suggestions have been relatively small in scope, and could at best produce small improvements. I would like to make a proposal to fundamentally restructure the administrator system, in a way that I believe would make it more effective and responsive. The proposal is to create an elected Administration Committee ("AdminCom") which would select, oversee, and deselect administrators.
- In the media: Wikipedia's language nerds hit the front page
This week saw a front-page story in the Wall Street Journal on editorial debates in Wikipedia. The story focused on the title-naming dispute surrounding the Beatles article, and specifically the RfC on whether the 'the' in the band's name should be capitalized or not.
- Featured content: Second star to the left
On the English Wikipedia, five featured articles, ten featured lists, and four featured pictures were promoted, including USS Lexington, a ship built for the United States Navy that, although ordered in 1916 as a battlecruiser, was converted to an aircraft carrier. It was sunk in the Battle of the Coral Sea during the Second World War.
- News and notes: Chapters ask for big bucks
The volunteer-led Wikimedia Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) and interested community members are looking at Wikimedia organization applications worth about US$10.4 million out of the committee's first full year's operation, in just the inaugural round one of two that have been planned for the year with a planned budget of US$11.4M.
- Technology report: Wikidata is a go: well, almost
A trial of the first phase of Wikimedia Deutschland's "Wikidata" project–implementing the first ever interwiki repository—may soon get underway following the successful passage of much of its code through MediaWiki's review processes this week.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Chemicals
This week, we experimented with WikiProject Chemicals. Started in August 2004, WikiProject Chemicals has grown to include over 10,000 articles about chemical compounds. The project has a unique assessment system that omits C-class, Good, and Featured Articles. As a result, the project's 11 GAs and 9 FAs are treated as A-class articles. WikiProject Chemicals is a child of WikiProject Chemistry (interviewed in 2009) and a parent of WikiProject Polymers.
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The Signpost: 22 October 2012
- Special report: Examining adminship from the German perspective
Unlike the long-running disputes that have characterised attempts to reform the RfA process on the English Wikipedia, the German Wikipedia's tradition of making decisions not by consensus but knife-edged 50% + 1 votes has led to a fundamentally different outcome. In 2009, the project managed to largely settle the RfA mode issue in 2009 indirectly.
- Arbitration report: Malleus Fatuorum accused of circumventing topic ban; motion to change "net four votes" rule
One clarification request concerns the civility enforcement case – specifically, Malleus Fatuorum's perceived circumvention of his topic ban. It has resulted in thousands of bytes spent in vitriolic discussions, multiple blocks, and "no confidence" motions against the Arbitration Committee and one arbitrator, among other ramifications.
- Technology report: Wikivoyage migration: technical strategy announced
Planning for Wikivoyage's migration into the WMF fold built up steam this week following a statement by WMF Deputy Director Erik Möller about what the technical side of the migration will involve. Wikivoyage, which split from sister site Wikitravel in 2006, is hoping to migrate its own not-inconsiderable user base to Wikimedia, as well as much of its content, presenting novel challenges for Wikimedia developers
- Discussion report: Good articles on the main page?; reforming dispute resolution
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
- News and notes: Wikimedians get serious about women in science
It is well known that women are underrepresented in the sciences, and that high-achieving female scientists have often been excluded from authorship lists and passed over for awards and honours solely on the basis of gender. Also significant has been the underplaying in the academic literature, news reporting, and online, of women's current and historical contributions to science.
- WikiProject report: Where in the world is Wikipedia?
The WikiProject Report normally brings tidings from Wikipedia's most active, inventive, and unique WikiProjects. This week, we're trying something new by focusing on Wikipedia's dark side: the various regional and national WikiProjects that are dead or dying. How can some tiny municipalities and exclaves generate highly active, cross-language, multimedia platforms be successful while the projects representing many sovereign countries and entire continents wallow in obscurity? Today, we'll search for answers among geographic projects large and small, highly active and barely functioning, enthusiastic about the future and mired in past conflicts.
- Featured content: Is RfA Kafkaesque?
Eleven articles, including one on Franz Kafka, three lists, one image, and one portal were promoted to 'featured' status this week.
I noticed the message on my talk page yesterday and have been meaning to get back to you. There's more work to be done, but I think the list is better than when I first saw it. The lead is short, but that can be fixed. Take care of these, and the list should be on its way to having a chance at FLC. This is not a comprehensive list of every nit-pick that can be taken care of, but the most important concerns I have are below:
- One thing you asked about was what to add to the lead to make it longer. I see several possibilities for content that you can get another paragraph out of. You can mention who was selected during the team's first season (nobody), the first Texans players to be chosen for the game, and the most recent. In addition, you can say which year the Texans had the highest number of players selected, other years with numerous picks, and years when nobody was chosen. There's a good-sized paragraph worth of prose in those items.
- Usually in tables with yearly elements, we have the year on the left side of the table, not the right.
- If I'm not mistaken, the Pro Bowl dates back to before 1970. That was just the year it became an AFC–NFC game.
- The bolding in the third sentence violates the Manual of Style and serves little purpose. That's something that should be removed before FLC.
- The key correctly has a symbol for the green-colored item, but none of the applicable entries do.
- Sortability is one aspect that can elevate a list. I wouldn't expect to see an image or stats column sortable, but there's no reason that the others couldn't be given sorting. That would make it easy to search within the list for any characteristics of interest. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments. I"ve put in a request at WP:RB to get pics of Walker, Glenn, and Mathis into the article, I"ve seen some in the internet, but am not sure on their availability of use. Will wait for that to be completed before a FLC. Buggie111 (talk) 01:32, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
List of Houston Texans Pro Bowl selections sortability
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I"ve been trying to make several columns in List of Houston Texans Pro Bowl selections sortable, per the comment above. However, it's throwing the table off (so that headers appear on top of each other). Any help? Buggie111 (talk) 13:48, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Non-free content policy and guideline
Please do not place or replace any non-free images to any pages except for actual articles, as you did at Portal:American football/Selected game or play/3. Such use is a clear violation of point number 9 of our policy concerning the use of non-free images. VernoWhitney (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Derp Derp. Should have remembered that I was warned for this earlier. Buggie111 (talk) 23:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Since that page was last edited over a year ago I figured it was just a memory lapse. No worries. VernoWhitney (talk) 00:04, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 29 October 2012
- News and notes: First chickens come home to roost for FDC funding applicants; WMF board discusses governance issues and scope of programs
The first round of the Wikimedia Foundation's new financial arrangements has proceeded as planned, with the publication of scores and feedback by Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) staff on applications for funding by 11 entities—10 chapters, independent membership organisations supporting the WMF's mission in different countries, and the foundation itself. The results are preliminary assessments that will soon be put to the FDC's seven voting members and two non-voting board representatives. The FDC in turn will send its recommendations to the board of trustees on 15 November, which will announce its decision by 15 December. Funding applications have been on-wiki since 1 October, and the talk pages of applications were open for community comment and discussion from 2 to 22 October, though apart from queries by FDC staff, there was little activity.
- WikiProject report: In recognition of... WikiProject Military History
This week, we're checking out ways to motivate editors and recognize valuable contributions by focusing on the awards and rewards of WikiProject Military History. Anyone unfamiliar with WikiProject Military History is encouraged to start at the report's first article about the project and make your way forward. While many WikiProjects provide a barnstar that can be awarded to helpful contributors, WikiProject Military History has gone a step further by creating a variety of awards with different criteria ranging from the all-purpose WikiChevrons to rewards for participating in drives and improving special topics to medals for improving articles up to A-class status to the coveted "Military Historian of the Year" award.
- Technology report: Improved video support imminent and Wikidata.org live
The TimedMediaHandler extension (TMH), which brings dramatic improvements to MediaWiki's video handling capabilities, will go live to the English Wikipedia this week following a long and turbulent development, WMF Director of Platform Engineering Rob Lanphier announced on Monday ... Wikidata.org, a new repository designed to host interwiki links, launched this week and will begin accepting links shortly. The site, which is one half of the forthcoming Wikidata trial (the other half being the Wikidata client, which will be deployed to the Hungarian Wikipedia shortly) will also act as a testing area for phase 2 of Wikidata (centralised data storage). The longer term plan is for Wikidata.org to become a "Wikimedia Commons for data" as phases 2 and 3 (dynamic lists) are developed, project managers say.
- Featured content: On the road again
Thirteen articles, ten lists, nine images, one topic, and one portal were promoted to featured after peer reviews.
- Recent research: WP governance informal; community as social network; efficiency of recruitment and content production; Rorschach news
A paper in the Journal of the American Society for Information Science and Technology, coming from the social control perspective and employing the repertory grid technique, has contributed interesting observations about the governance of Wikipedia.
WikiCup 2012 October newsletter

The 2012 WikiCup has come to a close; congratulations to
Cwmhiraeth (submissions), our 2012 champion! Cwmhiraeth joins our exclusive club of previous winners: Dreamafter (2007), jj137 (2008), Durova (2009), Sturmvogel 66 (2010) and Hurricanehink (2011). Our final standings were as follows:
Cwmhiraeth (submissions)
Sasata (submissions)
Grapple X (submissions)
Casliber (submissions)
Muboshgu (submissions)
Miyagawa (submissions)
Ruby2010 (submissions)
Dana Boomer (submissions)
Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.
- The featured article award goes to
Grapple X (submissions), for four featured articles in the final round. - The good article award also goes to
Grapple X (submissions), for 19 good articles in the second round. - The list award goes to
Muboshgu (submissions), for three featured lists in the final round. - The topic award goes to
Grapple X (submissions), for three good topics (with around 40 articles) in round 4. - The did you know award goes to
Cwmhiraeth (submissions), for well over 100 DYKs in the final round. - The news award goes to
ThaddeusB (submissions), for 10 in the news items in round 3. - The picture award goes to
Grandiose (submissions), for two featured pictures in round 2. - The reviewer award goes to both
Ruby2010 (submissions) (14 reviews in round 1) and
Grandiose (submissions) (14 reviews in round 3). - Finally, for achieving an incredible bonus point total in the final round, and for bringing the top-importance article frog to featured status, a biostar has been awarded to
Cwmhiraeth (submissions).
Awards will be handed out in the coming days; please bear with us! This year's competition also saw fantastic contributions in all rounds, from newer Wikipedians contributing their first good or featured articles, right up to highly experienced Wikipedians chasing high scores and contributing to topics outside of their usual comfort zones. It would be impossible to name all of the participants who have achieved things to be proud of, but well done to all of you, and thanks! Wikipedia has certainly benefited from the work of this year's WikiCup participants.
Next year's WikiCup will begin in January. Currently, discussions and polls are open, and all contributions are welcome. You can also sign up for next year's competition. There will be no further newsletters this year, although brief notes may be sent out in December to remind everyone about the upcoming competition. It's been a pleasure to work with you all, and we hope to see you all in January! J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:17, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello,
Dear Buggie111, why did you remove my edits on the Stanley Appel page? I can assure you that each of these statements are utterly true - from the horse's mouth, as it is!
Stanley Appel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stan appel (talk • contribs) 15:40, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Hello Mr. Appel, and welcome to Wikipedia. The reason your edits were deleted is not because they were false, it's because they weren't notable information, that is, they weren't all that important. Imagine if every biographical article on Wikipedia informed the reader of everything the subject did in life, from his breakfast routine to his preferred slipper color. That would be quite a mess some readers would have too look for to find anything important. Because of this, Wikipedia limits the amount of detailed stuff you can put into an article, although the link for such a policy escapes me at the second. But to bring up your point on truth, even if your edit did involve adding important, notable information (i.e., "Stanley Appel saved 59 children from the 20xx Anytown Orphenage Fire"), it would need to be backed up by a reliable source, not just the verbal confirmation of the subject. A couple of links you ought to read are WP:COI and WP:OR. If you have any more questions regarding Wikipedia, please, don't hesitate to ask me. Buggie111 (talk) 15:49, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt reply. Although I can understand why you would remove my "breakfast routine", I don't understand why you would remove my date and place of birth, for example?
Stanley Appel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stan appel (talk • contribs) 16:33, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Ah. Didn't see that. that part has been restored, although do please find a reliable source for it (I'll get to work on that myself in my free time). Also, please sign using ~~~~, it automatically creates your username and a timestamp. Buggie111 (talk) 19:46, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 05 November 2012
- Op-ed: 2012 WikiCup comes to an end
J Milburn is a British editor who has been on the site since 2006. He is one of two judges of the WikiCup. Here, he uses an op-ed to explain the way the WikiCup works and to review this year's competition, which ended recently.
- News and notes: Wikimedian photographic talent on display in national submissions to Wiki Loves Monuments
The results of most of the national heats for Wiki Loves Monuments (WLM) have been published on Commons. A maximum of 10 images have been submitted by all but eight of the 34 participating countries, and the international jury for what is the largest competition of its type in the world is set to announce the global winner in four weeks' time.
- In the media: Was climate change a factor in Hurricane Sandy?
Hurricane Sandy was the largest Atlantic hurricane on record and has caused millions of dollars in damage. Naturally, Wikipedia covered it. But was Wikipedia's coverage unbiased?
- Discussion report: Protected Page Editor right; Gibraltar hooks
The Signpost's weekly roundup of topics for discussion on the English Wikipedia.
- Featured content: Jack-O'-Lanterns and Toads
This week, the Signpost interviewed two editors. The first, PumpkinSky, collaborated with Gerda Arendt in writing the recently featured article on Franz Kafka and won second prize in the Core contest last August. The second, Cwmhiraeth, collaborated with Thompsma in promoting the article Frog, which was featured last week. We asked them about the special challenges faced while writing Core content and things to watch out for.
- Technology report: Hue, Sqoop, Oozie, Zookeeper, Hive, Pig and Kafka
The Wikimedia Foundation's engineering report for October 2012 was published this week on the Wikimedia Techblog and on the MediaWiki wiki, giving an overview of all Foundation-sponsored technical operations in that month. TimedMediaHandler also went live.
- WikiProject report: Listening to WikiProject Songs
This week, The Signpost sings along with WikiProject Songs which focuses on articles about songs of every generation and genre. The project initially began as a rough outline in October 2002 and was reimagined in March 2004 using its parent WikiProject Albums as a template.
Talkback

Message added 00:10, 7 November 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
I've got mail?
No, I haven't.
What is it so urgent you can't put on my talk page anyway? Plutonium27 (talk) 17:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)~
- Strange, I thought I sent it to you. It's a private matter, at least by my opinion. I"ll resend it to you later today. Buggie111 (talk) 19:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- It went to my Junk mail, which is why I didn't see it straight away. Sorry about that. Plutonium27 (talk) 23:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- I'll provide the feedback you requested but here, not in private. Let me know. Rgds. Leaky Caldron 14:29, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sure. What should I let you know of, again? Buggie111 (talk) 14:53, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- You requested clarification of my oppose in your RFA last December. Leaky Caldron 14:56, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- I agree, I did. I also agree to you posting it here. Does "Let me know. Rgds." imply anythign else I need to do? Buggie111 (talk) 15:27, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- IIRC and having re-read the RFA, there were some concerns expressed by editors about some of your responses to a few of the questions. My point, looking at your run at the time, was even if your answers had been fully endorsed I would have hesitated to support on the basis that my overall impression was that it was premature. I do not have fixed criteria and I tend to rely on others to determine technical competence. I look for characteristics such as lack of previous controversy, maturity, ability to communicate effectively and the degree to which a candidate stays clear of drama boards when they are not directly involved in an issue. In other words I prefer mature, experienced anonymity to inexperienced and/or grandstanding candidates. I felt that you needed a while longer. Hope this helps. Leaky Caldron 10:44, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Understood. Thanks. Buggie111 (talk) 14:12, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- You requested clarification of my oppose in your RFA last December. Leaky Caldron 14:56, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sure. What should I let you know of, again? Buggie111 (talk) 14:53, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- I'll provide the feedback you requested but here, not in private. Let me know. Rgds. Leaky Caldron 14:29, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
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I can't seem to get 1a or 1b to show, they just come up as Pending. Any help? Buggie111 (talk) 23:33, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- You added your comments inside the
{{GATable/item|1a|n}}template, where the template needs to be completed before you add your comment. I fixed the page for you so you can see what was wrong. Dori ☾Talk ☯ Contribs☽ 00:28, 11 November 2012 (UTC)- Thanks for the help. It seemed to work just fine for the other criteria, though. Buggie111 (talk) 00:33, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Alhist removal
Why did you remove "Alhist" ? It is a slang word and quite common from where i come from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gibba1234 (talk • contribs) 19:27, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- The article made no mention of it being a slang word in a specific area and said about the same things that are said at Confidence trick. It would end up as a redirect to that page if you showed that "alhist" was used in your area to describe that. Regards, Buggie111 (talk) 19:33, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Your Comments on My RfA Nomination
I just noticed your comments regarding my RfA nomination. How do I go about creating the page you requested, and what information should be included on it? --TommyBoy (talk) 23:45, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- It's a page needed to view your edits using X's edit counter. Just click on the link and write anything, then submit. Buggie111 (talk) 23:54, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Precious
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| Thank you for quality articles on ships such as Russian battleship Sevastopol (1895), you "Mother Teresa to those old frigates and obscure hulks of metal", - you are an awesome Wikipedian! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC) |
- Thanks! I've got to do something with all the languages I learn. Buggie111 (talk) 14:44, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 12 November 2012
- News and notes: Court ruling complicates the paid-editing debate
Last week, media outlets reported a ruling by a German court on the problem of businesses using Wikipedia for marketing purposes. The issue goes beyond the direct management of marketing-related edits by Wikipedians; it involves cross-monitoring and interacting among market competitors themselves on Wikipedia. A company that sells dietary supplements made from frankincense had taken a competitor to court. The recently published judgment by the Higher Regional Court of Munich, in dealing with the German Wikipedia article on frankincense products, was handed down in May and is based on European competition law.
- Featured content: The table has turned
Thirteen articles, six lists, and five images were promoted to 'featured' status last week.
- Technology report: MediaWiki 1.20 and the prospects for getting 1.21 code reviewed promptly
In late September, the Technology report published its findings about (particularly median) code review times. To the 23,900 changesets analysed the first time (the data for which has been updated), the Signpost added data from the 9,000 or so changesets contributed between September 17 and November 9 to a total of 93,000 reviews across 45,000 patchsets. Bots and self-reviews were also discarded, but reviews made by a different user in the form of a superseding patch were retained. Finally, users were categorised by hand according to whether they would be best regarded as staff or volunteers. The new analyses were consistent with the predictions of the previous analysis.
- WikiProject report: Land of parrots, palm trees, and the Holy Cross: WikiProject Brazil
As promised, we're expanding our horizons by featuring projects that cover underrepresented areas of the globe. This week, we headed to WikiProject Brazil which keeps track of articles about the world's largest Portuguese-speaking country. The project has shown spurts of activity and continues to serve as a hub for discussions, despite the project's collaborations, peer reviews, and outreach activities being largely inactive.
RfA
I reverted your recent edit. You're welcome to restore it, but I would suggest that you might wish to rephrase it a bit less confrontationally, and more clearly show how it is addressing the request under discussion. - jc37 02:17, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- Confrontational? Must be my eyesight, because I didn't notice anything wrong with it. I agree it was a bit out of place and off-topic, and I'd like to apologize if it was seen as confrontational. I couldn't really find where to put a smiley in the sentence, so I gambled and I take it I lost. Buggie111 (talk) 02:21, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- I'll happily accept that I may have misread the tone your comment. And as I said, please feel free to restore. - jc37 02:29, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
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