AlidPedian

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Nomination of Muhammad Hassan Ilyas for deletion

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Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:31, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

July 2023

Hello, I'm Apaugasma. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Khawla al-Hanafiyya, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 21:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't think this needs any reliable source, because, it is obvious that the proper Arabic transliteration is "Umm-al", instead of "Umm" or "Umm-e", which is more Persianized and Urduized. AlidPedian (talk) 09:37, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

In Arabic the name Muhammad normally does not take the definite article al-. But on Wikipedia it is more generally necessary to cite sources, because what is obvious for one person may not be obvious for another. It also avoids editors making honest mistakes. Surely something like the correct form of a personal name should be easily found in reliable sources.

Our mechanism to deal with unsourced information in Wikipedia articles is to assume that it is verifiable until an editor challenges and/or removes it, at which point it may only be reinserted with a reference to a reliable source. That is, the WP:BURDEN to provide a source is on the editor who would like the information to be included. In this way, the things that are really obvious to all can stay unsourced without ever being challenged, while those things that are not obvious to some will at some point get challenged and eventually be corroborated with a source.

Of course, it's important to remain reasonable with these things. Opinions on how to deal with it also vary among editors: see the essays Wikipedia:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue and Wikipedia:You do need to cite that the sky is blue. But ultimately, the relevant policy by which everyone must abide is WP:BURDEN (beware: WP:BURDEN is a necessary, but not a sufficient reason for inclusion; there are other reasons for not including something in an article, and the decision to include depends upon content policy and consensus between editors).

I hope this helps, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 10:53, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Okay. But, please co-operate with me if i made any mistake on Wikipedia, there are so many things that i have to learn here, Thanks. AlidPedian (talk) 10:57, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Yes, Wikipedia has a very steep learning curve. It's completely normal for a beginner to feel kind of lost in the multitude of norms and rules. The best advice I have is to listen to and follow the guidance of more experienced editors, and to thoroughly read and re-read every Wikipedia: or WP: link they throw at you. After a while, it will become more familiar, and things will become a lot easier.

The one thing that keeps making it difficult for some beginner or intermediate editors is when they think they understand some complex Wikipedia policy, while in reality they completely misunderstand it. That's why it's important both to really read all Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines, and to observe how these policies and guidelines are applied by experienced editors.

In the beginning, this will often not go your way: articles you create will be deleted because they do not meet WP:Notability, information you add will be reverted because it does not meet WP:Verifiability or WP:Neutral point of view (this is an especially difficult one!). This can be hard to accept at times, but accepting it is precisely what will make you grow as an editor.

In general, it is almost expected of beginners to make many mistakes. The point is to learn from them, and to not make them again ... too often . We all still make mistakes, even the most experienced of editors. The good thing about Wikipedia is that every edit can be easily reverted, so it's very hard to actually break something (see Wikipedia:Can't break it).

The most important thing that you can break though is your relationship with other editors: the hardest thing on Wikipedia, as well as the single most important thing, is to stay cool, to remain friendly to other editors at all times (even when they are not too friendly!). You're right, we're here to collaborate, and so even when unpleasant things happen the most important point is to focus on being constructive. If you can do that, you will be a truly great Wikipedia editor! ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 11:40, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, i really appreciate it.

I would try my best here. AlidPedian (talk) 12:54, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Alvi

Hello AlidPedian. I have reverted your edit to Alvi and wanted to give you some feedback.

Disambiguation pages are different from other pages. They are merely navigation pages to help readers find specific existing articles quickly and easily, rather like the index of a book. They should not have content that does not already exist in an article. The text that you placed at the beginning of Alvi could go into an article, but you would need to have a reliable source. If you would like to read more about disambiguation pages, see wp:Disambiguation and MOS:DAB. Leschnei (talk) 11:56, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:Late evening view of Mazar-e-Iqbal.jpg

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Hi, actually it would be fine if you delete this image because there are other issues with the file as well. And I don't even know what tag I should use. Because I don't know many rules and policies of Wikipedia, and also Wikimedia Commons is unavailable in my region. I would like to reupload the image again sometime, with the correct image title and after knowing the correct license tag. I am sure TeaHouse will help in these confusions of mine. Please cooperate with me, as I don't know many things on Wikipedia, but I always try my best to be a good user on Wikipedia. Thanks. 😊 AlidPedian (talk) 13:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for pointing it out. I've fixed it. 😊 AlidPedian (talk) 00:27, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

March 2025

Hi there, please be very careful with adding nowiki tags to articles, as you did at Economy of Pakistan - only add it when you really intend to, and when you fully understand its effects. Thank you, Jessicapierce (talk) 04:19, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Got it, sorry. 😊 Actually, that happened by mistake, when I reverted the revision, So that the old image can return to its place. AlidPedian (talk) 12:25, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Actually, can I ask you how that happened? I see many edits by IPs which add nowiki tags to the infobox in a similar way. I've always been curious what would cause that... were the nowiki tags added automatically somehow? This is not a criticism, I'm honestly just trying to learn. Thank you for any insights! Jessicapierce (talk) 15:27, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Your edit to Urdu has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for information on how to contribute your work appropriately. For legal reasons, Wikipedia strictly cannot host copyrighted text or images from print media or digital platforms without an appropriate and verifiable license. Contributions infringing on copyright will be removed. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 10:26, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

I haven't added any copyrighted material. I just added the quotations from the book to Wikipedia. AlidPedian (talk) 11:22, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

You also copied some nearby prose. I left the quotations in place. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:28, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

Kindly look at it. And tell me if there is anything wrong with it? Because that was said by Liaquat Ali Khan and not by Raja of Mahmudabad. That is why I had to edit it again. Thank you very much. 😊 AlidPedian (talk) 11:39, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

That's almost identical to the content I already removed. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:19, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

User:AlidPedian, I think the addition of quotes is unnecessary at present. The relation of Urdu to the Pakistan Movement should be discussed in the latter article. Kind regards, Anupam^Talk 15:31, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

Dear, but all these points are not only related to the Pakistan Movement but also to the Hindi-Urdu controversy. Therefore, to some extent, all these points should be mentioned here. At least as much as I have included here. 😊 AlidPedian (talk) 15:54, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

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Jinnah

Could you add page numbers to your refs please. Wehwalt (talk) 13:11, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

As for the book of Dr. Ayesha Jalal, "The Sole Spokesman", I have provided the page number. But, currently it would be difficult for me to find the exact page number again, where Jaswant Singh wrote his famous notion, regarding the stance of Jinnah on partition in his book. AlidPedian (talk) 13:33, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

Page numbers are favored to make easier readers seeking to verify content per WP:V. Just for your guidance. Wehwalt (talk) 18:41, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of that. I'll plan to find the page numbers in the future. But I can't promise.

Secondly, you recently removed "British-ruled state" from my revision. Please don't do that, I didn't find anything POV about adding that. AlidPedian (talk) 18:48, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

28 March

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asilvering (talk) 19:51, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Lab Pe Aati Hai Dua

Could you please fix this page? It seems to have been redirected. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:14, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Samar Jafri moved to draftspace

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June 2025

Hi, hope you will be doing well. Thank you for your contributions. You can consider seeing WP:OR and WP:PSTS. Specifically, at Special:Diff/1294521132, Special:Diff/1295242986, and Special:Diff/1294577040, where you talked about her birthdate, an interview with Harmeet Singh, and that she was a second-year student – it would be good that you provide the references.

Also, need your opinion if there had been a WP:CITEKILL at the article (possibly by other editors). Thank you. M. Billoo 01:14, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, thank you for your contributions. Really sorry that I had not informed you formally about requesting move for the article. Just saw you cleaning up some references (possibly to avoid OR and CITEKILL as per my above concern). Here is a quick suggestion, you may want to keep the references having proper author names, and are not something like "Web Desk" or "News Desk" (unless where most necessary).

As for your comment there on talk page, I respect your opinion. But the original concern was that the article is not yet ready to be a standalone BLP, because the BLP policies require each and everything to be strictly supported by PSTS. And in this case, there has been only supports for an event, which is seemingly still growing due to the court orders.

Hope it helps, thank you! M. Billoo 16:13, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

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July 2025

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Islamabad Capital Territory. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Thank you for the message. I understand it may appear that I'm engaging in an edit war, but I assure you that is not my intention. I’m not trying to disrupt or harm the article in any way. My edits were made in good faith, with the aim of preventing the inclusion of biased or POV content that has been repeatedly added. AlidPedian (talk) 09:12, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

That you think that you are correct in your edits is not a defense to edit warring, as everyone in an edit war thinks that their edits are correct. If you disagree with an edit, it is up to you to engage in discussion on the talk page to attempt to reach a consensus as to how to proceed; failing that, dispute resolution is available, or actions like requesting page protection can be done. You should not continually restore your preferred version of an article, especially in a contentious topic area. 331dot (talk) 09:17, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. I understand your point and acknowledge that edit warring is not acceptable, regardless of intent. I’ll avoid this going forward. That said, I respectfully request that you also review my edits on Islamabad Capital Territory. I believe they were made in good faith and were intended to improve the article by removing biased or unsupported content. For example, several unnecessary EFNs were added, even though those details were already clearly explained in the article. I appreciate your guidance and will be more careful in the future, especially given the sensitivity of the topic. 😌 AlidPedian (talk) 09:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

Admins do not settle content disputes; this is between you and the others on that article. 331dot (talk) 09:28, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

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It's absolutely true that I sometimes take help from AI, especially when I don't find the finer and compatible wording. But the content is not entirely AI-generated, only the wording is. AlidPedian (talk) 11:06, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Samar Jafri (July 15)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Samar Jafri (July 15)

Your recent article submission has been rejected and cannot be resubmitted. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by CNMall41 was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: For the same reasons it was moved and then declined in the first place. Person is NOT notable. Sources are all unreliable. Lots of churnalism, WP:NEWSORGINDIA, and otherwise unreliable sources cannot be used to show notability.

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August 2025

Hi AlidPedian! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Parwarish several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

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September 2025

Hi AlidPedian, I have reverted your edit on Farahi school. Wikipedia is not the place for original research. All content must be supported by reliable sources, and if the material is highly debatable, it requires strong secondary scholarly sources. Claiming that “a source can be found anywhere” is not a valid argument. You need to provide sources for the existing content before reverting edits. I do not wish to engage in an edit war, but if you continue to revert without proper sourcing, I will request Administrator intervention against vandalism.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 20:12, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

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WikiProject Pakistan

Just a random thought, but you might want to join WikiProject Pakistan, since you are Pakistani and regularly contribute to Pakistan-related articles like Urdu. RealKnockout (talk) 05:14, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

December 2025

A page you created has been nominated for deletion as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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• I agree with Fram that there were too many issues to salvage. Please see WP:MURDERS; we do not term a killing a murder unless someone is convicted of murder by a court of law. 331dot (talk) 19:23, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

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