5M4A11

January 2025

Hello, I'm CodeTalker. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Mary Cunningham Agee, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. CodeTalker (talk) 20:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Dear Code Talker, Thank you in advance for your help in restoring my edit of Jan 2025 which corrects a painfully misleading statement that Mary Cunningham Agee’s husband died with the intention of carrying through with a divorce filing. This is untrue. He withdrew this intention before he died.

Fact: There was no divorce. There was a filing by a husband deep in the throes of dementia. There was a reconciliation. There was a happy marriage of 35 years, and at the end a wounded but relieved family. That is the truth. (35 years is correct.)

To skip to the end: This entire event of no divorce was a personal family nightmare that has no place in Wikipedia.

Ms. Agee’s husband, William McRenolds Agee, (see his Wiki page please) was in very poor health and also suffered from Alzheimer's Disease of 5 years duration. Afraid and confused, with no frontal lobe left, he made the horrible decision with the “help” of a couple of unscrupulous persons to file for divorce rather than graciously accept the reality that the family needed professional help regarding his care. People with this horrible disease are legendary in their confusion for turning on the people most devoted to them. Something they would never do when of sound mind.

Mr. Agee came to his senses enough before died to find the words to express his remorse and the family was reunited. He deeply regretted the pain he caused his Mary and his children. He died peacefully and forgiven in their arms. That is the truth.

Ms. Agee chose not the sue the unscrupulous attorney who helped a very sick man pull off this ruse as it would only further prolong the pain. Though if you need it, I could get documentation for the University of California San Francisco Medical School to illustrate the serious extent of his dementia and cognitive decline.

The NYT article cited for the statement that “the divorce was not finalized because of his death” panders to a level of prurient interest and defies Wikipedia’s guidelines and high standards for neutral point of view particularly with respect to living persons. This source article seriously smacks of social media mentality with zero concern for who gets hurt. Might sell papers though. Not exactly noble.

I feel it is best that I recuse myself from personally removing this reference again and ask that you do this on behalf of the truth as a dedicated watch person for Wikipedia’s quality of content and sensitivity to the stories of living persons. I was the recipient of a phone call from Ms. Agee who shared the joy and healing of their reconciliation with me directly. I was at the hospital the day Bill died. I know the truth and believe it should be honored. If that disqualifies me as impartial, it leaves you to do the right thing.

I am asking you to take the high road for Wikipedia and this family who have done nothing to deserve the meanness of this inaccurate reference. Will you please remove it from both Mary’s and Willam’s records and make sure it sticks. Bill deserves to be remembered as the devoted husband and family man that he was. Those who love him and cared for him deserve to have this bizarre level of personal detail deleted from both stories.

If you need a statement from UCSF Medical School, please let me know. Thank you so much. 5M4A11 (talk) 14:59, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

August 2025

Hello, I'm ChildrenWillListen. I noticed that you recently removed content from Mary Cunningham Agee without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 21:05, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

Question for administrator

I am asking for help with an edit of the article on Mary Cunningham Agee because I know her and know that the implied meaning of the sentence about a divorce filing made at the end of a 35 year happy marriage by a very sick husband (with Alzheimer's) was never finalized because he died is misleading. Her husband was scared and angry because his care required an assisted living situation. The source article could not know this and did not publish it. However, it is the truth and I feel Wikipedia standards offer protection from something so private and personally painful.

William Agee essentially ran away from home with the help of a corrupt attorney and others who hoped to benefit financially. The Agee's were reconciled before his died. He was deeply sorry. There is no published source for something so private. I am asking for the peace of Mary Cunningham Agee that the sentence be deleted. If it can't be deleted, can the painful implication be removed? Perhaps it can be stated this way: "At the end of his life, after 35 years of marriage, William Agee filed for divorce which he withdrew before his death."? Or bring your best writing skills to this and make an appropriate edit. I hope you agree that making a slight but important change is the decent thing to do. Thank you so much for offering your best help. [User:5M4A11|5M4A11]] (talk) 18:30, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

I am changing this to the "help me" template as this does not require an administrator to answer. —Matrix _{ping me}^{when u reply} (t? - c) 19:02, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

You already have a discussion started on the talk page. You should improve on that by making a specific proposal on changed wording of that one sentence. If other editors see the sense of making the change, they will implement it. Simply deleting the sentence might be an option. But the result will need to be based on what some published source says. Your own personal testimony is, unfortunately, not enough. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:35, 6 September 2025 (UTC)