Template talk:Infobox racing driver

Template-protected edit request on 26 October 2025

Move label1 / data1 immediately below header7 and re-number the opening six parameters.

Moves the nationality parameter below the championship heading so it clearly relates to the championship they are racing in and not strictly to the driver personally, as it appears in Formula One biographies (see Max Verstappen). MB2437 17:44, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

Not done for now—That does not seem right. Please reactivate the request if and when consensus is reached, and when the agreed change is in the sandbox, with test cases. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:47, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 January 2026

Change the Current team heading to Team, per WP:CURRENTLY, and add team as an optional parameter to current_team. MB2437 02:55, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

That wouldn't make it comply with WP:CURRENTLY (the guideline doesn't ban the use of the word, it is about statements that age quickly). This infobox parameter will age equally quickly regardless of the presence of "current". By removing the word, we are still impling it. The solution would be to mention the season, possibly linking to it (i.e. the header would be [[2025-26 Formula E World Championship|2025-26]] team ; linking to the season is optional, but the year should not auto increment.) SSSB (talk) 07:07, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Good call. I support adding team_year as a parameter to fulfil that format but still removing "current" as the automatic modifier given its redundancy. MB2437 12:23, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 28 February 2026

Please add | honorific-prefix =}} and | honorific-suffix =}} parameters to this infobox. Examples of infoboxes that already have such parameters are Template:Infobox person (used for, eg, Jack Brabham, Lewis Hamilton, and Stirling Moss), and Template:Infobox cricketer. These parameters are needed for the infoboxes in such bios as Craig Lowndes (which presently has an improvised non-standard "OAM", because there's no honorific-suffix parameter yet). Thanks in advance, Bahnfrend (talk) 05:49, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

I've advertised this request at WT:MOTOR. DH85868993 (talk) 22:53, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

 Not done for now. This requires further discussion.

I'm going to propose taking care of these by converting this Infobox to be a wrapper for {{Infobox sportsperson}}. That will ensure that all relevant parameters will be included while also maintaining the existing parameters. I will start working on a mockup of this in the sandbox so that we can see how it looks. Give me a few hours. --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 00:31, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

Isn't it easier to embed Lowndesy's {{Infobox racing driver}} within an {{Infobox person}} as we do with Brabham, Hamilton and Moss?

I wouldn't say titles of honor are a common enough attribute of racing drivers to necessitate these parameters. Do other sports have them? MSport1005 (talk) 00:53, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

Mocked up in the sandbox. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 01:03, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 May 2026

Per this consensus at WP:MOTORSPORT, requesting the change of a couple parameters:

| label1 = Nationality | data1 = {{{nationality|}}} → | label1 = [[Sporting nationality#Motorsport|Nationality]] | data1 = {{{nationality|}}}

and

| label11 = Racing licence | data11 = {{if empty|{{{racing_licence|}}}|{{{licence|}}}}} → | label11 = [[FIA Driver Categorisation|Categorisation]] | data11 = {{if empty|{{{categorisation|}}}|{{{racing_licence|}}}|{{{licence|}}}}}

Changes Racing licence to Categorisation, linking to FIA Driver Categorisation, and links Nationality to Sporting nationality#Motorsport. Used British English for "categorisation" as the vast majority of our articles are written as such, and is the variant used by the FIA. See the source of this message for the markup. Also requesting that the documentation note for Nationality is replaced with "Only use for sporting nationality, rather than national identity, ethnicity, or citizenship, per WP:INFONAT.", as that is the consensus within the project. Hopefully this will end the talk page back-and-forths.

A separate note is that the current placement of Nationality is WP:UNDUE, located before their full name and date of birth/death. I did not have consensus for moving it below the second heading, but would still suggest moving it to label4, corresponding to where citizenship is placed in {{Infobox person}}, and shifting labels 2, 3, and 4 up one. MB2437 18:04, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

 Done the first change. You can edit the documentation yourself. * Pppery * _{in solidarity} 23:30, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

 Done the second too. * Pppery * _{in solidarity} 23:32, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Why should Nationality mirror the placement of citizenship when it (and MB agreed on this) is not an equivalent parameter?

I like the first change, it's useful and reflects consensus, but frankly I don't see the basis for the second. The likes of {{Infobox sportsperson}}, {{Infobox tennis biography}} and {{Infobox volleyball biography}}, as well as {{Infobox Champ Car driver}} and {{Infobox Le Mans driver}}, all have country represented above birth date/place. MSport1005 (talk) 09:57, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

If anything, it should be lower. Sporting nationality is not as important as name and birth/death dates, especially when some drivers compete for an ASN other than their own. I mentioned the citizenship parameter as that is where nationality was formerly placed. MB2437 10:05, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

It shouldn't be lower—let's not start with this again. Drivers represent a nation. TV graphics and time sheets often show name, team and flag. A national anthem is played when they win. It's one of the most important parameters, especially in a sport that overlooks personal information such as height, weight or residence.

Same goes for MotoGP riders, in fact. I forgot to add that {{Infobox motorcycle rider}} also lists nationality first.

It's a small change, one that doesn't bother me — but there was no need to divert from the standard. My two cents. MSport1005 (talk) 11:24, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Also not that fussed, whichever permitted user sees this can feel free to rv. MB2437 16:20, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

@Pppery: You may undo the second change. MSport1005 (talk) 15:03, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

Undone. * Pppery * _{in solidarity} 15:11, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

I agree with MSport1005 on this one, I don't think the nationality/citizenship parameter should be that low honestly. I think the placement should return back to where it was seeing as it is important, as it's really not a footnote and its one of the most notable things about any driver.

The first thing people see about a driver are their names and nationality that they carry, I don't think the date of birth should be above the nationality parameter, also per consistency with other racing-related infoboxes; I don't get why this needed to be changed but it's my opinion. Road Atlanta Turn 5 (Talk) 12:17, 27 May 2026 (UTC)