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Edit request 31 December 2025
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Description of suggested change: Changing the link in the context decline message to point to the exact section of the guide which addresses the reason (WP:AUDIENCE). The page is located at Template:AfC_submission/comments
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| − | |context = This submission provides insufficient [[Wikt:context|context]] for those unfamiliar with the subject matter. Please see the | + | |context = This submission provides insufficient [[Wikt:context|context]] for those unfamiliar with the subject matter. Please see the [[WP:AUDIENCE|guide to writing better articles]] for information on how to better format your submission. |
EatingCarBatteries (contribs | talk) 02:13, 31 December 2025 (UTC)
Edit request 3 January 2026
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Description of suggested change: On Template:AfC submission/comments, in the AI decline message, adding a link to WP:AISIGNS.
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| − | In addition, LLM-generated articles | + | In addition, LLM-generated articles [[WP:AISIGNS|usually have multiple quality issues]], to include: |
EatingCarBatteries (contribs | talk) 07:47, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
- @EatingCarBatteries you might be interested in my suggested re-writes of this declie notice at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#Overhaul of the AfC decline and reject templates. qcne (talk) 11:52, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
- Those are fantastic ideas. I've been thinking lately about how the AfC messages can be so unhelpful (hence the recent edit request), and the ones you made are a great first start. I'll take a further look at them. EatingCarBatteries (contribs | talk) 21:59, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 20:54, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
"Template:Draft submission" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Template-protected edit request on 11 January 2026
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| − | {{#invoke:AfC submission catcheck|checkforcats}} | + | {{#invoke:AfC submission catcheck|checkforcats}} }}}}
}}</includeonly>__NOINDEX__}} |
Since IP editing is no longer a thing, tracking this is moot now and it shouldn't work anymore, should be removed to cleanup. Sophisticatedevening(talk) 11:04, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
- We could potentially track temporary accounts instead. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:07, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before creating an edit request. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:55, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Clarify about removing template as article creator?
editWhen I made a draft using Article Wizard and decided to publish directly, I was confused about if I could remove this template. On IRC, somebody said that it could be WP:GAMENAME. When I asked the Teahouse, they said I could have done it myself. Should there be something on Template:AfC submission/created#What to do if you see this template addressing article creators? Is there a better place to clarify, like Help:Your first article or one of the linked pages?
This might not be a common issue, I couldn't find similar questions with a brief search. I'm guessing the bigger problem is people removing this template and publishing directly when they should be going through AfC. Wimwamble (talk) 19:30, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- I might be missing something in the context here, but your situation sounds exactly like point #2 in the /created instructions. Does that point (or the further information below the list) need expansion or clarification? Primefac (talk) 19:41, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- For point 2 it says I should review the page, linking to new page patrol. Since I'm not a new page patroller, I didn't think I could review my own article and determine if it's acceptable. Wimwamble (talk) 19:55, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, I've clarified it with an extra statement. Hopefully that will help any future readers. Primefac (talk) 20:02, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- For point 2 it says I should review the page, linking to new page patrol. Since I'm not a new page patroller, I didn't think I could review my own article and determine if it's acceptable. Wimwamble (talk) 19:55, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
Edit request 14 March 2026
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Description of suggested change: Under the corp/org decline, add a wikilink to "Listicle". It's a pretty obscure neologism (webster says the earliest mention was in '07)
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| − | provide significant coverage: discuss the subject in detail, excluding routine coverage like product launches, staff appointments, or financial reports and listings in databases or | + | provide significant coverage: discuss the subject in detail, excluding routine coverage like product launches, staff appointments, or financial reports and listings in databases or [[listicle]]s; |
EatingCarBatteries (contribs | talk) 05:27, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 14 March 2026
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Missing period on lang decline.
| − | * If you prefer to write in your own language, look for the Wikipedia project in your language | + | * If you prefer to write in your own language, look for the Wikipedia project in your language. |
Template-protected edit request on 26 March 2026
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In the ai/llm comment:
- What I think should be changed:
* Why it should be changed: WP:NEWLLM has been broadened to forbid all AI-generated content from articles, not just generation from scratch. The notice needs to be updated accordingly.− You should not use LLMs towritearticlesfromscratch.+ You should not use LLMs to generate article content.
Edit request 3 April 2026
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Description of suggested change:
Adds two new reject reasons (hoax pages and blp attack pages), per this discussion at AfC talk page.
nil nz 02:06, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- Are we also removing these as decline reasons? Might be a good idea to reduce duplication. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- I think keeping BLP as a decline is a good idea, as it covers submissions that don't quite border on attack pages, but shouldn't be accepted.
- I know @ChrysGalley raised a point for keeping hoax/joke as a less-bitey decline for not obvious-vandals (like kids making drafts about their cat) but I'm sure there are other options (notability/test/custom decline messages) to cover those? nil nz 02:53, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
Done The question of whether to remove the decline reasons has not been resolved so I am not going to process that part just yet. Primefac (talk) 11:33, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- Did you intend to delete
|#default = {{{1}}}? I haven't tested it, but this looks important and like it was perhaps deleted unintentionally. –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:27, 4 April 2026 (UTC)- Looks like I removed it in the sandbox last month without realising – wasn't intentional and should probably be re-added, oops. nil nz 14:09, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
Done. I re-added it :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 14:44, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- Whoops, thanks for noticing and fixing. Primefac (talk) 21:17, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- Looks like I removed it in the sandbox last month without realising – wasn't intentional and should probably be re-added, oops. nil nz 14:09, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- Did you intend to delete
Template-protected edit request on 11 April 2026
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Probably just a minor tone thing, but the wording of the llm decline should be changed to reflect the newer guidelines.
| − | llm = This draft appears to be generated by a [[large language model]] (such as ChatGPT). You [[Wikipedia: | + | llm = This draft appears to be generated by a [[large language model]] (such as ChatGPT). You [[Wikipedia:NEWLLM|cannot use LLMs]] to generate article content. |
Template-protected edit request on 17 April 2026
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@ClaudineChionh has pointed out that there's a duplicate line in the language decline; could the text be changed as below?
| − | + | |lang = {{safesubst:<noinclude />#if: {{{2|}}}|This draft is written in {{{2}}}.|}} This is the English Wikipedia and we can only accept articles written in the [[English language]].
* Please provide a high-quality English translation, avoiding [[Wikipedia:Translation|machine translation tools]] (like Google Translate).
* {{safesubst:<noinclude />#if: {{safesubst:<noinclude />Mw lang|fn=is_name|{{{2|}}}}}|If you prefer to write in your own language, you may write it in the [[:{{safesubst:<noinclude />mw lang|fn=code_from_name|{{{2}}}}}:|{{{2}}} Wikipedia]].|If you prefer to write in your own language, look for the Wikipedia project in your language on the [https://www.wikipedia.org/ Wikipedia home page].|}}<includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#ifeq:{{{cat|}}}|no||{{safesubst:<noinclude />#switch:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|2|118=[[Category:AfC submissions declined as not in English]]}}}}</includeonly> |
nil nz 03:04, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
Done. Primefac (talk) 18:58, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
Edit request 21 April 2026
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Description of suggested change: Currently, the LLM decline message can be read such that G15 covers hallucinations, copyright issues, and tone, but in reality it only covers bad references and communication intended for the user.
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| − | LLM-generated pages | + | LLM-generated pages with [[Wikipedia:G15|certain obvious signs of being machine generated]] may be deleted without notice. |
EatingCarBatteries (contribs | talk) 03:15, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 27 April 2026
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For drafts declined under c-vc, can the link parameter not stick to the comma and word next to it? Seen in Draft:Caroline Clauss-Ehlers
{{AFC submission|d|cv-c|https://liu.edu/brooklyn/academics/Faculty/Faculty/C/caroline-clauss-ehlers|u=EastRiverEditor|ns=118|decliner=ThatTrainGuy1945|declinets=20260328204219|ts=20260219175120}}outputs text:
This draft appears to contain copyrighted material from https://liu.edu/brooklyn/academics/Faculty/Faculty/C/caroline-clauss-ehlers,which has been removed. nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead) 01:18, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- It would appear that this is fixable by replacing
, }}with,}}on line 156 of {{AfC submission/comments}}. — chrs [talk] 02:58, 27 April 2026 (UTC)- Thank you, editor CHRS for your help focusing this investigation! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 04:50, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
Completed. Sandboxed and case tested – also verified at Draft:Caroline Clauss-Ehlers. Good catch, editor .nhals8! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 04:50, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
Complaint about contents
editThere was a discussion at WT:N about whether the comments in this template conflict with "policy". The discussion was recently closed, but I leave a note here in case anyone needs to find it later: Wikipedia talk:Notability#c-RememberOrwell-20260309115800-Misleading? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
- Would have been nice if an AFC-related talk page had been informed a bit earlier so we could participate in the disucssion rather than just seeing the outcome of it. But better late than never. Thanks for the notification. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:20, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
Edit request 9 May 2026
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Description of suggested change: On Template:AfC submission/comments, making it clear that the list for the WP:NOT decline message is not exhaustive. Adding the point on a digital encyclopedia, because for some reason people forget that.
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| − | This draft is not suitable for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a general publishing platform. We do not accept:
* ''essays or original research'': personal views, advocacy, unpublished theories, or pre-prints;
* ''resumes or personal profiles'': CVs, social networking pages, or memorials;
* ''directories or manuals'': travel guides, catalogs, or how-to instructions;
* ''creative writing'': fanfiction, worldbuilding, myths, or things you have made up.
| + | This draft is not suitable for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a digital [[encyclopedia]], not a general publishing platform. We do not accept:
* ''essays or original research'': personal views, advocacy, unpublished theories, or pre-prints;
* ''resumes or personal profiles'': CVs, social networking pages, or memorials;
* ''directories or manuals'': travel guides, catalogs, or how-to instructions;
* ''creative writing'': fanfiction, worldbuilding, myths, or things you have made up.
The above list is not exhaustive. Please read [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|What Wikipedia is not]] to understand what content is excluded. |
EatingCarBatteries (contribs | talk) 20:34, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 23:04, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
Edit request 30 May 2026
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In the "ai" decline reason, the first line should be changed to specify that any AI generated text is the problem, and to avoid implying that the entire draft is AI generated, as this may not always be the case.
My suggestion:
| − | This draft appears to | + | This draft appears to contain text generated by a large language model (such as ChatGPT). You cannot use LLMs to generate article content. |
Athanelar (talk) 05:11, 30 May 2026 (UTC)
Done, reasonable update. Primefac (talk) 11:10, 30 May 2026 (UTC)