Talk:Trust Issues

GA Review

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Nominator: Dxneo (talk · contribs) 20:10, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Ippantekina (talk · contribs) 02:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I was about to review the article Tyla (South African singer) but it was taken by another user haha :) will review this one instead. Ippantekina (talk) 02:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, have fun! dxneo (talk) 08:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• First impression: I would leave out the tweet as I don't see it as particularly constructive to this article. Ippantekina (talk) 02:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

   Done. dxneo (talk) 08:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Prose review

• Suggest adding {{Short description}} manually

Why? Ifi may ask. dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Currently no short description is shown in the GAN template. I know shortdesc is auto generated but I'd highly recommend adding it normally in case of technical issues depending on device. Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done although I know someone is gonna remove it in a few days. dxneo (talk) 12:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• It's a slow → "It is a slow"
• "Trust Issues" was one of the four singles taken from Drake's 2011 studio album, Take Care but infobox/lead says otherwise?

That's what the source say, what's your suggestion? dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd swap "singles" with "tracks". Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done dxneo (talk) 12:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• On May 20, 2011, he released "Dreams Money Can Buy",[5] followed by "Marvins Room", released on June 9, 2011,[6] and a promotional video for the latter on June 28, 2011.[7] No idea how this fact relates to this article

Background information; how the song, album, and compilation came about. I was worried that I couldn't find any source stating that "Marvins Room" was officially released on June 28, that's why I opted to the promotional video. However, that can be removed. dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Still not convinced.. I'd leave all of this outside the article which concerns one specific song and not other songs. Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done dxneo (talk) 12:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• is four minutes and 41 seconds long → "4 minutes and 41 seconds long" per MOS:NUMNOTES
• half confessional, half ode to drank Seriously I have no idea what this means

Honestly, I was following the source and I kind of understand it after listening to the song. Still can be removed. dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

You can add quotation marks and attribution. Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done dxneo (talk) 12:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• it also intensifies to a powerful conclusion as Drake's vocals soar above the energetic arrangement potentially editorializing/POV

Meaning? dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

This sounds like an opinion and not an encyclopedic writing. I suggest adding attribution. Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done dxneo (talk) 12:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Outside North America, it peaked at number 35 in the United Kingdom on the UK R&B Chart,[1] and number 90 on the UK Streaming Chart → "In the United Kingdom, it peaked at number 35 on the UK R&B Chart and number 90 on the UK Streaming Chart".
• Note b is redundant imo.
• was supposedly singing about his then-girlfriend Selena Gomez Should be removed per WP:SPECULATION
• Move "Charts" before "Certifications"

I have addressed all the changes, what's left are those I have individually replied to above. Thank you again for the instructions. dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Responded above! :) Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Source review

• Spotchecks not done. Ippantekina (talk) 05:25, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• Spotchecks: 2, 14, 19, 29
• Can you help me explain the reliability of:
  • Singersroom
  • The Edge
  • earmilk

— Ippantekina (talk) 03:42, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• singersroom.com  : is classified as marginally reliable by the Cite Highlighter script and throughout my AfD journey, it was frequently used as a reliable source. It has also been referenced by reliable publications as well.
• theedgesusu.co.uk   was never assessed at WP:RS/N, but it referenced over 100 times and on Ye (2018) which is now GA. I think what matters most is the content on the source.
• earmilk.com   has been referenced for at least 816 times on Wikipedia

dxneo (talk) 12:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

@Dxneo: I'd like to see more thorough assessment of these sources i.e. editorial oversight, reputation (being used in Metacritic / mentioned by other publications for example). The fact that these sources are used in other GAs is not a strong enough argument. (Singersroom pass this) Ippantekina (talk) 04:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Assessing sources is out of my expertise, so I actually do not know where to look for what you are asking of me. At this point, what I can do is try to replace the sources, if possible. dxneo (talk) 10:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

This was really difficult, but here is earmilk (Earmilk) and here is The Edge (The Edge). dxneo (talk) 12:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for addressing everything. Happy to pass this :) Ippantekina (talk) 02:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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Drake in 2011

• ... that "Trust Issues" by Drake (pictured) was originally released in 2011 as a free download? Source: Ref: Drake slows down DJ Khaled’s “I’m on One” on “Trust Issues,” another new song released as a free download via his blog.
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dxneo (talk) 16:40, 10 August 2024 (UTC).

• hook not in article (t · c) buidhe 23:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

buidhe, addressed Y dxneo (talk) 02:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

• GA promotion from yesterday. Articles about songs with free downloads might be a dime a dozen, but giving this a slight pass thanks to the eight-year stretch before its official re-release. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 05:22, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
  • @Dxneo and Slgrandson: if the eight year gap is what's interesting, might be worth including a reference to it in the hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:22, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

AirshipJungleman29, will this do? There are plenty of sources on "Trust Issues" and Care Package and that eight year gap. dxneo (talk) 09:59, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

No, I meant referring to it in the hook. Apologies for the confusion. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:03, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you AirshipJungleman29, but unfortunately I don't know how I could squeeze in that "8 year gap" in the hook as I honestly don't see how anyone can miss it even if it's not literally mentioned. Any suggestions please? dxneo (talk) 01:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

ALT1... that the 2019 single "Trust Issues" by Drake (pictured) was originally released in 2011 as a free download?

How about this? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

ALT1 works for me, but it's not a single. dxneo (talk) 01:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm not invested either way, change it if you want, but...if it's not a "single", then why is it linked in his singles discography and singles navbox, and charting on singles charts? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

NOT sure what you mean by "singles charts," I just never found a radio date. However, it was initially released as a single, so thanks for the ALT1. dxneo (talk) 02:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

A bunch of the refs say things like "Official Hip Hop and R&B Singles Chart Top 40" or ""British single certifications – Drake – Trust Issues"." I was speaking to that. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:10, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Peer review

Trust Issues

Back from a failed FAC. Suggestions of any kind will be highly appreciated. dxneo (talk) 23:54, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

zzz plant

Hi, I've reviewed the prose and have some general comments below:

• "For the song, Drake led the songwriting, delving into the complexities of trust, loyalty, and betrayal in relationships under the pressure of fame." - "delving into the complexities of trust..." feels a bit editorialized to say in wiki-voice Zzz plant (talk) 16:23, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
• "It received positive critical reception from music critics, with some labeling it an "acclaimed track"." - did anyone besides Rolling Stone label it like this? I only see that one, so I don't think it should be "some" unless it's summarizing multiple opinions Zzz plant (talk) 16:23, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
• "On August 1, 2019, Drake announced Care Package via Instagram." I would recommend introducing briefly what Care Package is before this sentence. This felt a bit out of left field to me because Care Package hadn't been mentioned except in the lede Zzz plant (talk) 16:23, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
• the background and release section to me seems more like just a release section. it's pretty thin on background (i.e. songwriting process, mixing). I know sometimes the sources just don't have the level of detail we want as editors, but I do wonder if there's more out there given Drake is such a well-known artist. Zzz plant (talk) 16:23, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

  Haha! True! I looked everywhere, I'm starting to believe that FA is just a stretch at this point since I just cannot find enough material to balance everything. Some sources came up unreliable. dxneo (talk) 22:02, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

• ""Trust Issues" generally received positive reviews from music critics. Writing for Pitchfork, Tom Breihan described it as "slow and depressive", noting how it tweaks Drake's chorus from "I'm on One" into a heavier vibe." the transition between these two sentences feels rather strange, or I guess I should say that the selection of quotes from Breihan doesn't really pertain to the reception. It's more of his thoughts on the song's composition/style, rather than conveying a positive review. Like, someone could think a song is slow and depressive but still give it a poor review. If he did receive it positively, I'd select quotes (or paraphrase) to make that make that fact clearer. Zzz plant (talk) 16:23, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
• overall the reception reads as a tad quote-heavy to me. I would recommend trying to paraphrase or synthesize the critical consensus with thematic organization. this essay offers some tips; I find myself returning to it often when I'm workshopping reception sections. Zzz plant (talk) 16:23, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Medxvo

• I'm not sure that the UK release date is correct. For example, the BPI says that "You Belong with Me" was released in the UK on March 8, 2009, when it was actually released on August 24, 2009.
• "It is a slow, melodic, atmospheric R&B track that served as a promotional single to his 2011 studio album Take Care." - The composition details have nothing to do with its release as a promotional single. I suggest separating this into two sentences or incorporating the release details into earlier sentences in the paragraph. Also, I think more details about the promotional single release can be added in the prose, since it is only mentioned in a footnote as part of the Release history table.
• "For the song, Drake led the songwriting" - How do we know this? I see eight writers in the infobox and prose. The producers, 40 and T-Minus, are also credited as songwriters but we are only mentioning Drake...?
• "delving into the complexities of trust, loyalty, and betrayal in relationships under the pressure of fame" - I think such details can be incorporated with "It is a slow, melodic, atmospheric R&B track", like, "It is a slow, melodic, atmospheric R&B track about the complexities of trust, loyalty, and betrayal in relationships under the pressure of fame".
• "The song inspired remixes and covers" - I'm not sure that the song inspired the remix since Drake and the Weeknd were friends at that time, so this just seems like a marketing strategy.
• "which Drake praised as "crazy"." - Is this necessary in the lead? "to which Drake reacted favorably" or "which was met by praise from Drake" seem better in my opinion. Also, the quote would require a source even in the lead per MOS:LEADCITE.
• I suggest mentioning the details of the critical reception and commercial performance before the covers and remixes in the lead.
• "one of four tracks—"Dreams Money Can Buy", "Club Paradise", and "Free Spirit"—that were" - I'm not sure that this is correct since only three songs are mentioned between the em dashes. I think all four songs should be mentioned, or paraphrase to, "Trust Issues" was one of four tracks that were released in 2011 to promote Drake's studio album Take Care, alongside "Dreams Money Can Buy", "Club Paradise", and "Free Spirit"."
• "via his October's Very Own blog" - "via his October's Very Own (OVO) blog", since the OVO abbreviation is mentioned later in the article.
• "Drake announced Care Package via Instagram" - "Drake announced the compilation album Care Package via Instagram". Readers should not wait for the next sentence to know that Care Package is a compilation album.
• "He repeatedly questions the loyalty of those around him, expressing paranoia with lines like "I don't trust these bitches, they might catch me slipping", blending vulnerability, cynicism, and self-awareness in a confessional style." - I'm not seeing most of this text in the source at all.
• "into a heavier vibe" - Also not seeing this in the source.
• "with an official video uploaded on September 28, 2011" - Seems unsourced?
• "Credits are adapted from the liner notes" - "... the liner notes of Care Package" for clarity.
• Singersroom seems like an AI-written website. I recommend asking at WT:ALBUM about its quality and reliability.
• PopCrush is not a reliable source per WP:A/S.
• Earmilk does not seem like a high-quality reliable source, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music/Archive 1#Earmilk reliability.
• I agree with some comments on the FAC that have not been addressed yet, such as those regarding "It is the fourth track on Care Package mixed and mastered by 40" and "some labeling it an "acclaimed track." I recommend that you address all comments or discuss them with the editors.

I hope these comments are helpful, and I wish you the best of luck with the article! Medxvo (talk) 10:45, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

Hello Medxvo. So sorry for the late response, but I have addressed most of the issues you have raised, except for the composition which I have to rewrite. About the unreliable or unassessed sources, I truly believe that I'm just doomed LOL! dxneo (talk) 21:54, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

FAC PR sidebar

@Dxneo: I have added this to the Template:FAC peer review sidebar. Please consider reviewing other articles listed there. Please also consider reviewing articles at WP:FAC. This will build goodwill amongst FAC reviewers and help clear the list, making your nomination stand out amongst a shorter list. Z1720 (talk) 03:46, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll take a lot at the inputs above, and other PRs in a few days. I'm currently suffocating from school assignments + work. dxneo (talk) 06:30, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Query from Z1720

• @Dxneo: Are you still interested in responding to the above, or should this PR be closed? Z1720 (talk) 20:30, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

  My apologies. I'm on it. dxneo (talk) 21:27, 7 March 2026 (UTC)