Talk:Top Chef Masters

Progress Chart

If I understand the format correctly, the chefs are going to compete in brackets (i.e., the first six episodes will feature four chefs each (see here)). I don't think a matrix-style progress chart is going to be appropriate for this show. The NCAA Tournament articles (e.g., 2009 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament) seem to have templates that might be of use. Clconway (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Another basis for comparison might be the season articles for So You Think You Can Dance, where the first half of the season winnows the field down from 200 to 20 contestants and a matrix-style progress chart is only used for "The Finals". Clconway (talk) 16:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I went ahead and chopped the table down to just the last four episodes. The first six episodes can be dealt with separately. Otherwise, more than half the table is going to be noise (entries for chefs who aren't competing). Clconway (talk) 18:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Episodes

Are we going to have episode summaries. I have set up the start for Episode 1. 98.17.118.179 (talk) 19:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Episode 11

An anonymous editor added an 11th episode to the Finals chart. The sources cited say the show will have only 10 episodes. Has there been an announcement extending the season? Clconway (talk) 17:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Star Totals

A combination of innocent mistakes and apparent vandalism make me wonder if having the star totals in the article is really a good idea? They are very easy to get wrong and very difficult to verify (e.g., they're not listed on the official show site AFAICT). Clconway (talk) 18:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

They are needed I believe to complete the article. May I suggest this site as verification. crazzycorbe (talk) 06:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• The Chicagoist has excellent show summaries and I'm using them as refs for the Star Totals in the chart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigvinu (talk • contribs) 00:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Instance of More than One Season

If there is another season, we should consider making the home Top Chef Master page into a familiar layout to that of the Top Chef page. Christianity922 (talk) 18:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Can we please add the star totals for episode 7. I have already added Art's & Suzanne's? 174.97.22.109 (talk) 03:21, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Tables

Why were the tables put in and changed, exactly? The previous versions were perfectly fine, I think. --fuzzy510 (talk) 20:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:11, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

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Dining room of Le Cinq in April 2017

• ... that a viral review of Le Cinq (dining room pictured) described it as decorated in "taupe, biscuit, and fuck you"?
  • ALT1: ... that Le Cinq (dining room pictured) made "the world's most feared restaurant critic" wonder what he could do to it with "a can of kerosene and a box of matches"?
  • ALT2: ... that a viral review of Le Cinq (dining room pictured) came with pictures of "piles of slime on plates"?
  • ALT3: ... that "the world's most feared restaurant critic" was made "eye-gougingly, bone-crunchingly, teeth-grindingly angry" by Le Cinq (dining room pictured)?
  • ALT4: ... that a viral review of Le Cinq (dining room pictured) has been described as "worth a read, in a craning-your-neck-to-look-at-a-very-expensive-car-crash kind of way"?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Operators and Things
  • Comment: The IPA and co-ord templates are causing DYKcheck to malfunction, so you'll need to check that manually.

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 306 past nominations.

Launchballer 19:54, 29 June 2025 (UTC).

• Hooks are properly cited and are quite interesting and funny. Article is well written. Passing. Arconning (talk) 08:22, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
  • @Launchballer and Arconning:, please either move this article to Jay Rayner's review of Le Cinq, as the current article is more about it than the restaurant, or remove the bloated unencyclopedic mess of the fourth paragraph of "History". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:38, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
    • @Launchballer: Ough I guess that's true, I guess it's your final call on what to do. Arconning (talk) 16:27, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

A restaurant with three Michelin stars deserves its own article, so have trimmed the paragraph (I left the last sentence but would not contest its removal). I need longer to decide whether the review itself also deserves its own article.--Launchballer 16:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

I split this; ALT0, ALT2, ALT4, and to a lesser extent ALT3 would work as a double hook, and my new QPQ is 2025 Chennai Super Kings season. (Hmmm, can I get Jay Rayner through WP:GARC in five weeks...)--Launchballer 14:17, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Rayner's now at GARC.--Launchballer 17:57, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Jay Rayner in December 2019

ALT0a: ... that a viral review by Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) described Le Cinq as decorated in "taupe, biscuit, and fuck you"?

ALT1a: ... that the Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) was dubbed "the world's most feared food critic" after writing a viral review of Le Cinq?

ALT2a: ... that a viral review of Le Cinq by Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) came with pictures of "piles of slime on plates"?

ALT3a: ... that the Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) wrote a viral review of Le Cinq because he was "eye-gougingly, bone-crunchingly, teeth-grindingly angry"?

ALT4a: ... that a viral review of Le Cinq by Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) has been described as "worth a read in a craning-your-neck-to-look-at-a-very-expensive-car-crash kind of way"?

My new QPQs are Danan: The Jungle Fighter and John Schulman; full review needed for the three new articles. Rayner's birthday is on 14 September, so I may put in a date request at WT:DYK.--Launchballer 01:57, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

Not a review, but ALT1a sounds like the best option here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

I love multi-hooks and these are all hilarious, Launchballer. Jay Rayner's review of Le Cinq is one of the topics that definitely belong on Wikipedia, yet few would think of writing about. The article has been tagged with Template:Non-free by Tbhotch, but there is no discussion of it on the talk page. Could we straighten this out here? Should we say in wikivoice that "he had been irritated by people moaning about the cost of eating out"? Reference #4 is just a link with a title, nearly a bare URL reference. I am not sure if the article can count as new: the entire content was split from Le Cinq a month after that article was created and nominated here. Other than that, length and sources pose no problems, and I particularly like how the article balances different POVs.
The Jay Rayner GA nomination passed on 2 August, so that certainly counts as new. Unsurprisingly, it is also long enough and the sources are impeccable. Neither Earwig nor my spot checks have uncovered any paraphrasing issues.
Top Chef Masters was recently and sufficiently expanded. The sources check out and I have not been able to detect any close paraphrasing. I wonder why the date and cause of Floyd Cardoz's death is relevant to the article. Surtsicna (talk) 09:40, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

I changed moaning, trimmed Cardoz's death, and filled out some URLs. Per WP:DYKSPLIT, "Articles split from new articles or articles with active nominations remain eligible". As for the tag, I removed some of the smaller quotes, but I think the rest are justified and would invite Tbhotch to explain themself.--Launchballer 11:06, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

I did not know about WP:DYKSPLIT. Thank you. All that's left now is to see what Tbhotch has to say. Surtsicna (talk) 19:19, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

The article now looks different from what I read yesterday. Now around 15% of the article is quoted, which is not as bad as the 30% from yesterday. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 21:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. (Not quite sure how Airship's removal of the quote box is justified under WP:LIMITED, but if it gets the tag off then fine I guess?)--Launchballer 22:36, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

That's all settled then. I cannot honestly say which of these hilarious hooks I consider best. I'd better leave that to the promoter. Like Narutolovehinata5 noted, ALT1a might be the safest choice. Surtsicna (talk) 07:29, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

• Pinging @Launchballer, @Arconning, @Surtsicna, @Narutolovehinata5, @AirshipJungleman29 and @Amakuru. I've pulled this from the prep as it is next to go into the que. This needs further discussion. TarnishedPath^talk 04:02, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Needs this icon to prevent being promoted. Launchballer suggested two new hooks in the discussion:

• ALT3b: ... that the Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) has attributed writing his viral review of Le Cinq to being "eye-gougingly, bone-crunchingly, teeth-grindingly angry"?, or
• ALT4b: ... that a viral review of Le Cinq by Top Chef Masters judge Jay Rayner (pictured) was described by Vice as "worth a read in a craning-your-neck-to-look-at-a-very-expensive-car-crash kind of way"?

Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:16, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

These look good. I might have a slight preference for ALT3b. Surtsicna (talk) 21:33, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @Surtsicna:. What do you say to running this on 14 September, Rayner's birthday? It's six weeks from the day Rayner was added to the nom, so I don't think WP:DYKSO should be a problem.--Launchballer 21:45, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

It would be a fun homage. Let's do it. Surtsicna (talk) 21:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)