Talk:Shibuya-kei

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What does -kei mean? Secretlondon 16:53, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Style, apparently --Closedmouth 07:43, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

plus model, connection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.135.101.98 (talk) 10:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, I never heard the shibuya-kei term applied to Puffy before. As much as I like Puffy...

Assuming you didn't follow the link, Puffy is the original Japanese name for Puffy AmiYumi and what they are still known as in Japan. Sometimes bands have to change their names when going to another location due to copyright and trademark issues. Another example of this is Nirvana UK, who are simply known as "Nirvana" in their homeland of the UK.--み使い Mitsukai 12:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Sound

I was listening to some Pizzicato 5, and decided to look them up on the web. They are considered "shibuya-kei" according to the main Wikipedia page for the group. "Okay, what's that?" thought I. Clicked on the link, and wound up here. No offense, but after reading the entry, I have no idea what "shibuya-kei" means, in terms of how the style is defined. I get that it gets its name after a Tokyo district, which is helpful, sort of, but I don't really get a feel for what the sound / genre is like. Can this be fleshed out more? What is it about the sounds from this area that defines a genre?

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.103.218.146 (talk • contribs)

From the page: "combines elements of jazz, fusion, traditional music, and other styles", "strongly influenced by French yé-yé Music and its most notable proponent, Serge Gainsbourg", "Other influences include lounge, and bossa nova". Seems alright to me --Closedmouth 14:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Aesthetical Venn-Diagrammatic (Trinity)

The often proclaimed Nurturing influence of the Restauration of Nippon via the US-Goverment is very fascinating if cross-read with the influence of Anti-Fascist Germans of all sorts. Oppenheimer of course, but not to forget Theodor W. Adorno, Walter Benjamin, Horkheimer, Einstein, which isn't reducible to Scientific Effort on behalf of German Intellectuals, but includes their artistic, cultural and philosophical intellgentsia. Gys01niyt (talk) 22:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Picopop citogenesis

While researching, I found that the term originated from a 2005 revision of Picopop, an article that contained no references and was nominated for deletion in 2010. In that discussion, a search for sources yielded just a single 2006 blog post authored by "Ken M", in which he wrote of Japanese electronic bands "semi-jokingly called pico pico pop". One year after the article was redirected to 8-bit (music), a prolific Rate Your Music user successfully petitioned picopop by listing references to piracy blogs, Last.fm, 8tracks, and his own curated picopop playlists. (Rather disingenuously, most of the sources he provided did not actually contain the term, and, in some cases, he fabricated usages.) In 2018-2019, other users revisited picopop and discovered its citogenesis and the misinformation spread by the original submitter. Full discussions: June 2018 / July 2018 / September 2019 / Google Doc summary.

TL;DR:

• Pico pico is a common Japanese onomatopeia for chiptune sounds
• Picopop has no currency in Japan; searching the term on Japanese Google yields fishing poles
• Following the creation of the Picopop article in 2005, the only sources that deploy picopop are a 2006 blog post and websites consisting of user-generated content (the sole exceptions are Drowned in Sound in 2018 and Tokyo Weekender in 2020)

For these reasons, I believe the article should stick to pico-pico, since that is the term preferred by native Japanese and more authoritative sources. ili (talk) 00:45, 7 May 2026 (UTC)