Talk:Revellers Vase

GA review

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Nominator: UndercoverClassicist (talk · contribs) 21:29, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: MSincccc (talk · contribs) 15:49, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Prose

Lead

• I am a bit confused with regards to the variant; I can see British spellings such as "revelled" and "labelled" as well as American ones such as "color" and "armor".
• the vase was found in an Etruscan tomb in Vulci
  • You could move up the link to "Etruscan" to this sentence.
• The vase is an amphora (a type of vessel normally used for storage),
  • You could consider dropping the brackets and using the version

The vase is an amphora, a type of vessel normally used for storage,; I leave it to you.

• from the Etruscan Tomb of the Cuccumella [fr] at Vulci in Italy
  • Redundant since "Vulci, Italy" is already mentioned before this in the lead.
• excavated by Lucien Bonaparte (the brother of Napoleon Bonaparte),
  • Similar to one of the lead suggestions, you could drop the brackets and use only the commas.

History

• Euthymides, along with other painters like Euphronios and Phintias, are known as the Pioneer Group
  • The main subject is singular; “along with” does not make it plural. Shouldn't "is" be used then in place of "are"?

• In the ARV2 indexing system developed by John Beazley, it has a number of 26,1, and it is numbered 200160 in the Beazley Archive Pottery Database.
  • Both the links point to Beazley; you could drop the second one.

• Well, it's a fact that I never came across "ARV2" while reading through Beazley's article.

MSincccc (talk) 16:18, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

UndercoverClassicist, That's all for the prose. I look forward to your response. MSincccc (talk) 18:36, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for these, MSincccc. I think I've got to all the necessary ones. Brackets have a place, I think -- in the Bonaparte sentence, for example, they help to clarify that Napoleon is a step "further back": if we did It was excavated by Lucien Bonaparte, the brother of Napoleon Bonaparte, who excavated more than 3,000 Attic vases from Etruscan tombs, it wouldn't be obvious which Bonaparte did the excavating. It's not particularly important in the context of this article, but ARV² is the second edition of Attic Red-Figure Vase-Painters: you'll see that sort of notation commonly used with classical works, particularly gazetteers and corpora. Beazley Archive is a redirect with possibilities, which should generally be kept even if it creates a duplink, since there's a realistic chance that an article under that name will be created at some point. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 19:05, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to explain (I owe my knowledge in classical archaeology to you). Source-to-text spotcheck to follow. MSincccc (talk) 18:36, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

Source-to-text spot check

• 3- Done
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• 24- Done

MSincccc (talk) 13:23, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

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Date discovered?

Is there a specific date in March where this vase was discovered? It would be nice to include as a blurb in WP:OTD. I do not have access to the source cited. Pinging top editors @UndercoverClassicist, Dimadick, and Dloer11:. jolielover♥talk 17:51, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

I did not come across any specific date in March 1829 when searching the available sources during my review, though some sources cited were inaccessible to me. MSincccc (talk) 18:11, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

@Jolielover: Sadly, Bonaparte only gives the month, and almost no details of the excavation. I don't believe any other independent record of the discovery exists, so it's unlikely that anyone knows to any greater degree of precision. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 07:44, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

Sad.. OTD, no more. jolielover♥talk 08:29, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by HurricaneZeta (talk) 19:22, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

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Revellers Vase

• ... that the painter of the ancient Greek Revellers Vase (pictured) wrote an inscription on it taunting a fellow artist?

• Source: Hedreen, Guy (2016). The Image of the Artist in Archaic and Classical Greece: Art, Poetry, and Subjectivity. Cambridge University Press. p. 40. ISBN 978-1-107-11825-6.

• • ALT1: ... that the ancient Greek Revellers Vase (pictured) shows the legendary hero Hector on one side, and three drunken dancers on the other? Source: Hedreen, Guy (2016). The Image of the Artist in Archaic and Classical Greece: Art, Poetry, and Subjectivity. Cambridge University Press. p. 40. ISBN 978-1-107-11825-6.; Robertson, Martin (1981). A Shorter History of Greek Art. Cambridge University Press. pp. 64f. OCLC 1151401411 – via Internet Archive.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tom Maulson

Improved to Good Article status by UndercoverClassicist (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 42 past nominations.

UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 21:03, 14 January 2026 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: No plagiarism, green copyvio score. Both hooks approved, ALT0 is the more interesting one to me though, would add some silliness to the main page. Kamakou (talk) 21:30, 16 January 2026 (UTC)