Talk:Piccole Italiane

Merge proposal

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The result of the discussion was merge Giovani Italiane into this article. There is consensus they aren't notable enough to have two different articles. FaviFake (talk) 20:06, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

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I propose to merge Giovani Italiane into this article. As-is, there is a pretty large amount of duplication for very short texts. While it is easy to find sources that deal with Piccole in detail, the sources describing Giovani are always also describing the Piccole, too. If merge will go through, I hereby also propose a new name for a combined text, Piccole Italiane and Giovani Italiane. Викидим (talk) 11:03, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. Piccole Italiane and Giovani Italiane are two separate organizations, and should therefore have two separate articles. They also have separate articles in other wikipedia language versions. They are Fascist Italy's eqvivalent of Nazi Germany's Jungmädelbund and Bund Deutscher Mädel, and are therefore certainly notable. It is true they should be expanded. But an article in Wikipedia is never finnished, and there would be plenty of material for expansion beyond what may at present be similar. --Aciram (talk) 01:57, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I agree with all your points. However, I have tried to find sources about Giovani in particular and failed, thus the proposal. Unless I would count the fascism-era WP:primary sources, everywhere else Giovani is apparenlty mentioned in the context of Piccole. For example, the only source currently used in both articles, after briefly mentioning the Giovani membership, immediately moves on to combined numbers. On the other side, there is no dearth of sources that deal with Piccole on its own (I have added two to the article). WP:GNG does not work by analogies (the ones I agree upon with you, although would like to point out that the number of interwikis is very different for Piccole and Giovani). I would immediately withdraw my proposal if you can find a couple of post-WWII sources that describe Giovani without mentioning Piccole in the same or next sentence. Викидим (talk) 03:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Support Merge: They may be two separate organizations, but they don't seem notable enough to merit their own article. Other Wikipedia language versions have the same problem. Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 01:34, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Support merge, either as proposed or, if there are concerns about the direction, the the broader topic of Opera Nazionale Balilla. This might work even better, given that we have no articles in English for the boys organizations, Balilla and Avanguardisti. Klbrain (talk) 12:55, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

Support merge either into the more prominent organization or into a common article for all such organizations, depending on which ends up being more practical for the merger. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 01:28, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

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