Talk:Pakistani Taliban

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Jo1971 in topic Al Qaeda connection

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 October 2025

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TTP leader fate is unknown. Pakistan claims that they assasinated him, where as few audio of his voice has been released claiming that he is safe. So it is not correct to mention that he has been assasinated. Rather a disputed text should be there Tech wikiboy (talk) 13:36, 10 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Not done: Assuming you are referring to Noor Wali Mehsud, the infobox currently does not list him as having been killed. Day Creature (talk) 17:08, 10 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 October 2025

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Its written that its officially known as "fitna al khawrij", but this is not true. Fitna khawarij is a historic term. It's not an alias for pakistani taliban. Pakistan taliban is known as TTP or tehrik taliban Pakistan. Please correct Cosmickadet (talk) 19:43, 27 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. While the group calls itself Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, Fitna Al Khwarij is the name used for it by the Pakistani government. The lead paragraph mentions both names. Day Creature (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Re-addition of "allies" section

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Hello @Gotitbro. You removed the entire "Allies section" of the infobox. The discussion you linked here in your edit summary to only mentions alleged "state sponsors" of the Pakistani Taliban, not non-state ones and yet you removed both state and non-state allies.

I agree that the re-addition of alleged state sponsors of the Pakistani Taliban should require a consensus to be re-added, but you removed non-state ones without taking a consensus first. KashanAbbas (talk) 07:59, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Also, @Gotitbro, from what I read in the discussion you gave, the majority consensus was opposition to only the addition of India.
  • 3 editors opposed India's inclusion entirely and had made few (if any) comments about Afghanistan
  • 1 editor said to keep it limited to Afghanistan
  • 1 editor wanted both (with alleged/denied in brackets)
This makes the ratio of the removal of India to inclusion 4 to 1 (80%) with the one wanting to keep it to just "alleged, denied", but for Afghanistan it was 3 agreeing to keep it and 2 with no comment/no support for removal.
From that, I find it difficult to understand why you removed Afghanistan. KashanAbbas (talk) 08:15, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
@KashanAbbas: The WP:RfC resulted in the consensus to remove alleged "state allies". You can restore the non-state actors if you want, I removed the parameter as a whole as it was being repeatedly targeted by socks and LTAs. The consensus includes Afghanistan and the RfC result was implemented as such (the failed RfC was initiated by a sock who wanted to include states in the param). And always be sure that WP:CONSENSUS is not a WP:VOTE count. Gotitbro (talk) 08:30, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
So what I'm getting is:
  • I can add non-state actors
  • I need a consensus to add Afghanistan
  • I can't add India (at least without a proper WP:CONSENSUS among editors as well as with a WP:RELIABLE SOURCE)
Is this correct? I'm I getting this right? KashanAbbas (talk) 11:20, 24 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Gotitbro KashanAbbas (talk) 07:48, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
Pretty much. You would need a clear consensus (e.g. another RfC) to proceed with anything to do with state actors here. Gotitbro (talk) 15:23, 5 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Gotitbro I think that (maybe later) I'll do one to get Afghanistan re-added. As for India, it can stay out of the infobox. KashanAbbas (talk) 13:01, 8 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Subgroups

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According to this source, the TTP actually have unto 62 subgroups. ~2026-12054-82 (talk) 09:08, 17 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Al Qaeda connection

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Some additional source regarding the al Qaeda connection which claims the TTP’s charter had been shaped and honed by Al Qaeda.

The TTP’s charter had been shaped and honed by Al Qaeda, which regarded it as an affiliate. Both Osama’s general manager, Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, and Abu Yahya al-Libi, who now served as a religious adviser to Al Qaeda Central, had sent detailed suggestions on how the new movement should be run, pointing out flaws in its governing documents and making requests for more information so that new wording could be added. The TTP should “trust the rule of the Amir of the Believers Mullah Muhammad Omar Mujahid, and consider him as their emir.”[1]

See also: Osama Bin Laden’s Files: Al Qaeda provided feedback on Pakistani Taliban’s charter[2] --Jo1971 (talk) 13:24, 12 April 2026 (UTC)Reply