NPR article on Nicole Daedone and Onetaste

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https://www.npr.org/2025/06/11/nx-s1-5429181/orgasmic-meditation-sexual-womens-wellness-forced-labor-conviction 162.192.2.81 (talk) 20:55, 27 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

It's already included in the article that they have been found guilty, and they will appeal the verdict. tgeorgescu (talk) 15:34, 28 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Tgeorgescu This is simply additional information that could be included in the entry. If for no other reason it can be added as a reliable source. 162.192.2.81 (talk) 06:36, 30 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
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@Rectitudo: Please read WP:EL, first paragraph. tgeorgescu (talk) 07:34, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

It's simply mentioned in the article and I linked to the organization's web presence. It's completely relevant to the article and totally relevant to Nicole Daedone's history and background. WP:EL specifically states that "Wikipedia articles may include external links, links to web pages outside Wikipedia". Rectitudo (talk) 07:29, 6 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
External links may be included, however external links inside the prose of the article are prohibited.
So, if there is a good reason (I don't see one right now), that link may be included. But not in the prose of the article. tgeorgescu (talk) 19:21, 6 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Unless they are part of a reference citation (see H:FOOT), external links typically go into an External links section. Peaceray (talk) 23:20, 6 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

"Orgasmic Meditation" and "Deliberate Orgasm" are trademarks

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...and they should be treated as trademarks.

They should not be presented as generic terms for multiple reasons:

First, they are actually trademarked and correct style is to capitalize trademarks (see also: Tylenol which is not a generic or proper term for acetaminophen).

Second, genericizing OM or DO is incredibly misleading. Neither of these practices are legitimate religious or sexual wellness practices (as might be implied by genericization). OneTaste is NOT a religious organization (no matter what their guru says). This should be especially true since there is actual tantric sex as practiced in dharmic religions, which has nothing to do with what OneTaste sells.

--KXPUMVVL (talk) 13:43, 17 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hi KXPUMVVL, thanks for participating on the talk page. MOS:TMCAPS, the style guideline that applies to the capitalization of trademarks, states: "For trademarks, editors should choose among styles already in common use (not invent new ones) and, among those, use the style that most closely resembles standard English text formatting and capitalization rules." Just about all of the "independent reliable sources" cited on this page keep the phrase orgasmic meditation in lowercase (outside of article titles, which are often rendered in title case by default), so the Wikipedia article has been doing the same. — Newslinger talk 18:58, 18 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Okay, then I'm going to refer to it as "so-called 'orgasmic meditation'"/"so-called 'deliberate orgasm'" and have the notes regarding the trademark status for the first instance.
I am nevertheless adamant that it is actually reckless not to make it clear that these are not some neutral sexual or religious practice; they are commercial products that exploit a perceived connection to sex and religion. It is the difference between true religion and True Religion. ~~~~ KXPUMVVL (talk) 19:20, 18 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
The phrase so-called runs afoul of the MOS:DOUBT guideline, so we should not use it. Peaceray (talk) 20:43, 18 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
This argument would be academic but for Daedone's trial making it abundantly clear that "orgasmic meditation" was done to coerced victims, who found it neither arousing nor meditative. KXPUMVVL (talk) 22:09, 18 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
For this type of situation, Wikipedia articles tend to omit words such as so-called in favor of including a summary of how reliable sources describe the coercion. The article does currently contain the latter. — Newslinger talk 06:55, 19 February 2026 (UTC)Reply