Talk:Occupation of the Baltic states
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Point of the article
editThe very idea of having a common article for these occupations is very dubious. They were quite distinct in a huge number of ways and pursued very different policies. There were repressions in both cases, but the parts of the population targeted by the repressions and the methods of the repressions were very different (not to mention that there were also great differences within the Soviet period). The status of the Baltic states themselves was extremely different in the two cases, since the Soviet Union kept distinct republics as official national homelands for the respective nations, with the states maintaining their national cultures and using their national languages as official ones, whereas Germany just incorporated them all indiscriminately into Reichskomissariat Ostland, a single colony openly and officially intended for settlement and rule by Germans, without any titular status for the local nationalities. The only point of lumping these periods together into a single period of 'occupation' seems to be to imply that the Soviets were basically the same as the Nazis (or worse, as the current mainstream Baltic view seems to be). You may consider both equally evil, but that does not make them the same phenomenon. 62.73.72.3 (talk) 21:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- This article is a WP:SYNTH essay combined by butthurt Baltic nationalists, almost as bad as this obvious fake: Gestapo–NKVD conferences. Come to terms with it, that's how Wikipedia works. Editors post an article, reach a consensus and reject objections, even if the latters' view is more aligned with the research than that of the original posters. Sorry...Knižnik (talk) 23:52, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
Tsarist Russian rule of Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia
editThe fact that the Russians took control of Estonia and part of Latvia from Sweden under Tsar Peter, and of Lithuania and the other part of Latvia from the Polish-Lithuanian Dynastic Union during the partitions of Poland in the late 18th century should be mentioned as a prelude to the temporary independence of the Baltic States made possible by the German victory over Russia in World War I, and the Russian Civil War, and the reannexation of the Baltic States by the Russian dominated U.S.S.R., the successor state of Tsarist Russia. 2603:8001:EF0:9A20:CAAF:A136:43F:C0B0 (talk) 09:35, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Misuse of Misiunas
editMisiunas's book is a great source but it doesn't support the text that was added to the article, for example
| “ | The colonial regimes of Estonia and Lithuania had authorities who were mostly imported Russian settlers. Latvia's colonial regime under Soviet Russian rule had a slim Latvian majority. The colonial regimes were disguised as “Communist Parties.” | ” |
Misiunas indeed says on p. 80 that 53% of the members of the Latvian Communist Party were ethnic Latvians but that's very different from the passage above. Alaexis¿question? 09:43, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- This editor does have a history of problematic edits, starting from their very first edit. Mellk (talk) 10:00, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Alexis, the majority of positions in the Latvia Communist Party or the positions of all the Baltic States' Communist parties for that matter were Russians who came after the 1944 occupation. Atang1200 (talk) 06:33, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- That's right. I didn't remove or dispute these numbers. Alaexis¿question? 12:32, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
The redirect Soviet occupation of the Baltic states has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 April 19 § Soviet occupation of the Baltic states until a consensus is reached. Melozone crissalis (talk) 20:12, 19 April 2026 (UTC)








