Talk:New York Islanders

Islanders' home city location

In my opinion, the home city location for the Islanders should now be listed as Brooklyn. The Islanders' Contact Us page (seen here) lists the address for the Barclays Center as: 620 Atlantic Ave., Brooklyn, NY 11217. I sincerely believe that all Wikipedia articles for all professional sports teams should list the address for a specific club based on the physical address of the club's home arena/stadium. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 19:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Brooklyn is the arena's ZIP code since Brooklyn's post office existed before Brooklyn was merged into New York City. But the Islanders and the Barclays Center are physically located in the City of New York, of which Brooklyn is a part. Brooklyn itself is not a city (not since 1898), so listing it as the home city would be inaccurate. We do not need to have specific boroughs and neighborhoods listed in very general sections like the infobox. That's taken care of in the body of the article. --JonRidinger (talk) 20:01, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Where's your proof? I have listed several sources as to why the home city location for the Islanders should be Brooklyn. Here's another source: the Barclays Center website. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 20:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Brooklyn is a borough of New York City. We want to list the city, not a borough. GoodDay (talk) 20:32, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

What I don't understand is this: why list the location for the National Basketball Association (NBA)'s Brooklyn Nets as Brooklyn, but list it as NYC for the Islanders? There should be an equal application for both clubs. I have a suggestion that might work: What if the location for both the Nets and Islanders is listed as: Brooklyn, New York, NY? I also suggest the location for the Knicks and Rangers be listed as Manhattan, New York, NY. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 20:42, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

you shouldn't bring the Nets into this discussion, the style guides of the two articles emanate from two different Wikiprojects. Also, the basketball template reads "location," not "city" as this one does, so it is reasonable they could be used differently in my opinion. Rikster2 (talk) 20:44, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Nvm, I'm finally persuaded that the location in the infobox for both the Nets and Islanders' articles should be listed as NYC. As long as there's a mention that both clubs play home games at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn in the lead paragraph (which there is for both clubs currently), I'm satisfied. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 21:14, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Lead paragraph

So after this NYC–Brooklyn battle something new was started. Lead paragraph always started like this. However, another user showed up and started stating that this is "correct". However, that editor doesn't go to Rangers' article and do the same there. – Sabbatino (talk) 21:16, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

If it helps, I was the editor who changed the wording in the lead paragraph. I also did it for the New York Rangers article, to ensure that the wording in the articles for both New York City National Hockey League (NHL) teams was consistent with each other. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 05:35, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I was referring to other editor who reverted back to your version, but since Rangers' article was updated, I'm fine with that. – Sabbatino (talk) 07:54, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

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RFC - How to indicate team location in opening

I honestly would change this myself, but since this is such a major change to the article, I felt it would only be right to start this discussion first. I honestly don't think it is very good quality to say based in Elmont, New York. It has only been there home for a couple of years and it would be insane to have to list a specific part of an area they are the intended team of. Example, Florida Panthers says based in Miami metropolitan area. Not Sunrise, Florida. Of course the major difference here is the Islanders are not the only team in New York. They also have the Rangers at MSG as cross town rivals. To the question, how should the intro be?:

* A. Based in Elmont, New York
* B. Based on Long Island
* C. Based in Nassau County, New York
* D. Based in Hempstead, New York
* E. Something completely different

I am interested to know what you think, but I think it should be Option B and for several reasons:

• 1 It is accurate and reflects their status as branding themselves as a Long Island team.
• 2 There is little to no chance of shock of why New York is in their name. They are called the New York Islanders. As soon as people see Long Island, they will basically immediately understand why they are called Islanders
• 3 Despite the fact that they formerly played at the Nassau Coliseum and their long history in Nassau County, during the time of renovation and waiting for their new UBS Arena in Nassau County, they played at Barclays Center in Brooklyn on the Western Part of Long Island which just shows their commitment to Long Island. It would also be weird to chose say they are based in a county they didn't play in for about 5 years over an Island that is literally a part of the team's identity. I mean hello, the team is literally called "New York Islanders". I would also argue the phrase and their fanbase resides primarily on Long Island. could be removed as unsourced or moved to a new section of fanbase or the existing team identity section. I also feel like that should be the short description swell, but that can be argued on separately (On this talk page).

(This is kind of unnecessary, but I am not an Islanders fan, this is an attempt to talk about improving the article as always) Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:57, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Where is the WP:RFCBEFORE? The Kip ^(contribs) 13:48, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

The Kip I guess I rushed and went straight to the RFC. I didn't about WP:RFCBEFORE. So yeah… I've gone straight to an RFC when it could have possibly been discussed a bit quicker… Servite et contribuere (talk) 14:14, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Since not every reader will be familiar with every city and county in the New York metro area, my vote would be Option B, but modified to include the state name as well, "Long Island, New York". Assadzadeh (talk) 04:45, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Tagging other editors to see if they might want to comment. @GoodDay @Left guide @Conyo14 @Flibirigit. Feel free to tag more for me please! Servite et contribuere (talk) 15:28, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Should also invite @Sbaio to this discussion. Long term Sports contributor. Servite et contribuere (talk) 15:29, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Comment If this discussion were to be closed sooner than later, I think consensus is for Option B based on arguments and the argument by Buffalkill that says: I support "Long Island" because being the team from Long Island is central to the franchise identity regardless of the host municipality or county. They would still be the New York Islanders anywhere on the Island. is a very good one. Any more thoughts? Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:47, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

I'm not an Islanders fan—I live in Virginia and I have Capitals season tickets—but I do have some connections to New York (both family and work). I think Nassau County would be the best option for three reasons. The first is that while, as a technical matter, Brooklyn and Queens are both physically located on the island named Long Island, from a cultural standpoint neither borough is considered part of the area known as "Long Island." Highway signs direct you east to Long Island or "Eastern Long Island" (the latter abbreviated "Eastern LI") as though you aren't already there. The second reason is that historically the team has indeed been based in Nassau County. Barclays Center was the full-time home arena for only three seasons (2015–16, 2016–17, and 2017–18); for the next two seasons, as the article notes, the team split games between Barclays Center and Nassau Coliseum and then returned to Uniondale full-time for one season and part of the next until the new arena was ready. So, essentially, there have been only three seasons in which Nassau County wasn't the full-time home-game location (not counting special one-offs like the Stadium Series against the Rangers when the Islanders were designated as the home team for tax reasons). Finally, the third reason is that the opening sentence is phrased in the present tense, such that even though they played in Brooklyn (Kings County) in the past, saying they "are a professional ice hockey team based in" either Nassau County or Elmont is an entirely accurate statement—the word "are" denotes "currently" without using that deprecated word. And once you reach that point, I simply think the average reader is more likely to recognize the name Nassau County than the name Elmont. 1995hoo (talk) 15:57, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

1995hoo Do keep in mind that the article Brooklyn states that is located at the Westernmost Point of Long Island. Servite et contribuere (talk) 17:06, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

I'm well-aware of that. (Both of my parents grew up in Brooklyn and I've visited there many times.) I specifically said Brooklyn is physically located on Long Island. Did you not read my comment? 1995hoo (talk) 17:35, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

1995hoo Yes. It is accurate, but I am arguing it is too specific when a broader term works aswell. Actually, then what is the Physical definition of Long Island? That has got me confused. Servite et contribuere (talk) 17:40, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

1995hoo Sorry again, I misread. I thought you said Brooklyn is not physically on Long Island. My bad Servite et contribuere (talk) 17:41, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

I'm also not an Islanders fan (I'm a Rangers fan, so: Potvin sucks) but as a former Long Island resident I see no issue with specifying Elmont for accuracy sake - after all, before moving to Brooklyn this article specified Uniondale as per this random diff from 2014. The only reason anyone has ever heard of Uniondale is because of the Coliseum, whereas at least Elmont hosts Belmont Park. That said, I wouldn't be that concerned with the more general Long Island.Echoedmyron (talk) 22:36, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

I support "Long Island" because being the team from Long Island is central to the franchise identity regardless of the host municipality or county. They would still be the New York Islanders anywhere on the Island. Buffalkill (talk) 05:30, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

• I'm gonna second Buffalkill; "Long Island" is central to the team's identity and has been the one constant throughout their existence, as Brooklyn is at least physically located on the island. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:32, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Use Hempsted, New York. GoodDay (talk) 18:49, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

GoodDay Per what arguments do you have? Also, don't you mean Hempstead, New York and not Hempsted, New York? Servite et contribuere (talk) 19:06, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Yes, Hempstead. Go with the town name. GoodDay (talk) 19:27, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Hempstead while crucial to Nassau is for whatever reason (I don't know why) not on largest US cities by city limits lists even though it'd clearly qualify if Nassau towns counted cause it has almost a million people. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 00:31, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Because Hempstead is a town, not a city. Since Hempstead is not a city, why would it be on a list of cities? Hamtechperson 13:15, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

It's the top-level municipal subdivision of all land in Hempstead town why should it not get on the list (so these lists are more specific? local differences information would be lost if they used Long Island towns not villages) it isn't just cities cause the villages inside Long Island towns get on lists long enough for their inclusion even if the list says rank x by city (cities in state y by population density or area or population or with rents between $900 and $1,000 or percent of workers who use taxis to commute to work or whatever Census data can be detailed like heck if it doesn't fall within the we can't tell you this for privacy reasons. Or I think they might "fuzz" now where if you rank by percent of the population that is some rare thing if it's a few or less they'd add artificial Heisenberg uncertainty as if people were electrons and show everyone only one Heisenberg decomposition of the artificial (not really there) electron cloud even though no that person probably doesn't live on that exact block group they're shown to live on) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 18:00, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

UBS Arena is located in Elmont so the lead sentence should stay as it is. – sbaio 06:49, 21 August 2025 (UTC)