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Nero In Jewish sources

Nero Caesar in Jewish Sources Hebrew wikipedia

In Midrash Icha Rabbah 1, Nero Caesar is not briefly mentioned as someone who ruled Rome during the Great Revolt and died in the midst of the revolt, while Vespasian was busy with his attempts to conquer Jerusalem, and thus Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai 's prophecy that Vespasian would become emperor was fulfilled: "After three days, Vespasian went to swim in the Gupna. After he had swum and put on one of his sandals, news came to him that Nero was dead and the king was a son of Rome."

The coin with the image of Emperor Nero is mentioned several times in the Mishnah and in the Tosefta as the "Nironit Rock" or "Nironit" for short. In addition, there is a sage article in the Babylonian Talmud , which describes a man named Nero Caesar as an envoy of the emperor who reigned at that time, and not as the emperor himself. According to that article, the Roman emperor sent Nero Caesar to conquer Jerusalem following a report from a man named Bar Kamtza , according to which the people of Judah were betraying him. When Nero Caesar arrived in the Land of Israel , he shot arrows to the four winds of heaven to check which place to conquer, and all the arrows eventually landed in Jerusalem . Nero concluded from this that he would win his war against Jerusalem. Later, he saw a boy passing by and asked him to teach him, and the boy quoted to him the verse “And I will take my vengeance on Edom by the hand of my people Israel” ( Ezekiel 25:14 ) . Nero saw this as a prophecy that God would take revenge on him for the conquest of Jerusalem. As a result, Nero fled , converted And one of his descendants was the Tanna Rabbi Meir . His wife Poppea was presented in the sources as a sympathizer of the Jews, and in the Talmud she was even presented as a matron https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A1%D7%A8#%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A1%D7%A8_%D7%91%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%99%D7%94%D7%93%D7%95%D7%AA 174.98.170.14 (talk) 02:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

In Aggadah in the Talmud says that at the end of AD 66, conflict broke out between Greeks and Jews in Jerusalem and Caesarea. According to the Talmud, during the Great Jewish Revolt, which describes a man named Nero Caesar as an envoy of the emperor who reigned at that time, and not as the emperor himself.Italic text According to that article, the Roman emperor sent Nero Caesar to conquer Jerusalem following a report from a man named Bar Kamtza , according to which the people of Judah were betraying him. Nero went to Jerusalem and shot arrows in all four directions. All the arrows landed in the city. He then asked a passing child to repeat the verse he had learned that day. The child responded, "I will lay my vengeance upon Edom by the hand of my people Israel" (Ezekiel 25:14). Upon hearing this, Nero became terrified, believing that God wanted the Second Temple to be destroyed, but that he would punish the one to carry it out. Nero said, "He desires to lay waste His House and to lay the blame on me," whereupon he fled and converted to Judaism to avoid such retribution. Vespasian was then dispatched to put down the rebellion.

The Talmud adds that the sage Reb Meir Baal HaNess lived in the time of the Mishnah, and was a prominent supporter of the Bar Kokhba rebellion against Roman rule. Rabbi Meir was considered one of the greatest of the Tannaim of the third generation (139–163). According to the Talmud, he was a descendant of Nero, who had converted to Judaism.

The Talmudic legend about Nero is not supported by contemporary sources. Roman and Greek sources nowhere report Nero's alleged trip to Jerusalem or his alleged conversion to Judaism. There is also no record of Nero having any offspring who survived infancy: his only recorded child, Claudia Augusta, died aged 4 months. His wife Poppea was presented in the sources as a sympathizer of the Jews, and in the Talmud she was even presented as a matronia

You cannot cite Hebrew Wikipedia and citing the Bible/Talmud requires a secondary source for analysis and interpretation. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:53, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

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Please add the category Politicide perpetrators as he was said to have killed his opponents. https://www.pbs.org/empires/romans/empire/nero.html 2600:382:2B23:35A1:30F4:1535:382:3BEB (talk) 03:53, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

 Done Day Creature (talk) 04:44, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

Text Issue

In the Nero#Martyrdoms of Peter and Paul section of the article, it says, "Bishop Eusebius of Caesarea (c. 275–339) was the first to report that Paul the Apostle was beheaded and Saint Peter#Connection to Rome#Peter was crucified in Rome during the reign of Nero."

Please fix the Saint Peter#Connection to Rome#Peter which is clearly stated as just that in the article. Gamermanspam (talk) 22:51, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

 Done Remsense 🌈 论 22:58, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

Killed by Epaphroditus by Suetonius?

"However, he still could not bring himself to take his own life, but instead forced his private secretary, Epaphroditus, to perform the task."

It is plain wrong, even by reference! Suetonius said: . "When he heard them, he quavered: "Hark, now strikes on my ear the trampling of swift-footed coursers!"⁠152 and drove a dagger into his throat, aided by Epaphroditus, his private secretary.⁠ ~2026-19313-73 (talk) 12:12, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

Do you have a proposed wording to replace it with? Ideally we should rely on better sourcing but if we are going to reference Suetonius we should accurately do so. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:10, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

He took his own life with the help of his private secretary, Epaphroditus. ~2026-19451-37 (talk) 04:00, 29 March 2026 (UTC)