Talk:List of Nintendo Switch 2 games
Notes about this draft
edit- It will almost certainly be WP:TOOSOON to publish this draft until the April 2, 2025 Nintendo Direct. Please don't attempt to, as it'll almost certainly be deleted or sent back to draft space if done too early.
- The "rumored" section is not intended to ever be published as is, its just for helping building and prepare the list for when it is ready to be published. Sergecross73 msg me 16:13, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- You may end up needing a backward compatibility column. Too soon to say, of course, but throwing it out there.Darkage7[Talk] 17:09, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, we'll have to wait and see. I was trying to keep it simple. We had a lot of problems with the original List of Nintendo Switch games because there were so many games that it kept hitting Wikipedia page size limits. If its something like the Sega Saturn or Dreamcast, its no big deal, but if its huge like the first Switch, it'll be a problem again. Sergecross73 msg me 18:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
An idea for the future of this article
editShould we add a list of OG Switch Games that aren't compatible with switch 2? or would that make more sense on the list of og switch games? TotallynotWario (talk) 19:11, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think it'll depend on how that all plays out. We don't even know if it 5 or 500 games that will be incompatible yet. Sergecross73 msg me 19:13, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- That sounds good, I would assume the amount of non compatible games would be pretty small, the labo games most likely being on that list due to size difference between switch 1 and switch 2. TotallynotWario (talk) 15:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think that should be on the switch 2 games list, rather than coming here for switch 2 games and seeing 500 titles that are supported on the system, rather than released. Super tyguy (talk) 14:49, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Mainspace redirect
editWhile this draft is in the works, should the List of Nintendo Switch 2 games namespace be a redirect until this draft is ready to be approved? SleepDeprivedGinger (talk) 16:54, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- I could go either way on it. I considered creating one that went to Nintendo Switch 2#Software. On one hand, games are mentioned there. On the other hand, there's no "list", and it could go up for deletion. Its up to you if you'd wish to try it. It's a short-term issue - I'm almost certain we'll be ready to publish it on April 2. Sergecross73 msg me 16:59, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- No, I think you've got a good point there. It just seems kinda unnecessary now that I think about it. In addition, the redirect most likely wouldn't even last long due to how close the Direct is. As long as enough games are confirmed or revealed by then, we might as well go without one. I'm willing to hear a counterargument, but I don't see why there should be a redirect for now. SleepDeprivedGinger (talk) 17:22, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Source
edit- https://www.polygon.com/analysis/531219/switch-2-pokemon-games Sergecross73 msg me 12:53, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be in the ref ideas template above? SleepDeprivedGinger (talk) 13:42, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter, either way is fine. I do it this way at because it's easier to do when I'm stuck on my phone and want to add a note real quick. Sergecross73 msg me 13:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be in the ref ideas template above? SleepDeprivedGinger (talk) 13:42, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
Ideas
editWhat ideas should we add into this article??? MKplayer10 (talk) 19:53, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- For me, I think this time I want to add the "Addons" section where people would see the key icon in it
- The Keys I want to add is
- - Nintendo Switch 2 Editions (color Red)
- - Camera compatible with games (color white) MKplayer10 (talk) 19:55, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- We had a lot of issues with the issues with the original Switch game list getting so big that it had to be split, a bunch of times, because it kept on hitting the upward limit of how big an article can technically be. So, my advice is that we should keep it simple, because this could get similarly quite long. Sergecross73 msg me Sergecross73 msg me 19:55, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
Nintendo Switch 2 Edition
editThe Switch games with a Nintendo Switch 2 Edition shouldn't be listed and counted here but only in the proper page. Games like Metroid Prime 4: Beyond in the Nintendo Switch 2 Edition will be a bundle with the Switch 1 cartridge and an upgrade pack. I also suppose they will use the APIs written for compatibility with the Switch 2 hardware for the old games (something like the Carbon API for Mac OS X) and not the new APIs used for the Switch 2 games. 79.20.242.183 (talk) 16:45, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, we're still kind of working through how to handle some of these situations, since the concepts are so new. The most recent discussion on it was learning towards considering NS2E games as Switch 2 games. Sergecross73 msg me 16:58, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Since the physical copies apparently contain Switch 1 cartridges and a code for the upgrade, rather than proper Switch 2 cartridges, I propose we merge the NS2E page with this one, but keep the games in a separate list from the "proper" Switch 2 games. By the time either list gets long enough that it will necessitate splitting, the console will be long out and we'll have more sources and examples of S2 Editions to help us better decide how to make that split, whether it be making NS2E its own page again, integrating everything into the full list and separating by title, or a halfway step between those options based on how the games are distributed. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think that's all confirmed yet though, I think that's just something being reported from people on social media talking to Nintendo Customer Service, who isn't always an authority on things that aren't actually announced yet. Sergecross73 msg me 18:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Good point. I'm now seeing support e-mails on social media saying the opposite, so I rescind my recommendation until we get more official word/press coverage or literally see a cartridge in hand. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:56, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- No worries, I had only just recently read it myself. Sergecross73 msg me 19:54, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Since April, we’ve gotten official confirmation, as well as just information from testing that Nintendo Switch 2 Edition games are a bundle of the original game and a Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Upgrade Pack. Since we now can confirm this, I think it would be a good idea to either make a separate list, or making Switch 2 Editions have a different color in the table with the proper distinction. I would also propose that alongside this, we remove the titles Nintendo Switch 2 Edition once we settle on a universal distinction on them. They occupy a large part of the title, and for titles such as Super Mario Party Jamboree Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Jamboree TV, WP:COMMONNAME may apply. So long, and thanks for all the fish (talk) 02:52, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Someone tried that, but consensus was against that article existing. Sergecross73 msg me 10:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- I could see discussion here being warrented. Looking at the talk page, most people were specifically against it existing as its own article, and was in favor redirecting it to this page. I could see marking Nintendo Switch 2 Editions in a specific color inside this list as beneficial. So long, and thanks for all the fish (talk) 11:07, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I have nothing against discussing here, I'm not even necessarily opposed to such an article split if its done right, I'm just letting you know that pursuing it could be an uphill battle due to that prior consensus on it. Sergecross73 msg me 13:18, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- I could see discussion here being warrented. Looking at the talk page, most people were specifically against it existing as its own article, and was in favor redirecting it to this page. I could see marking Nintendo Switch 2 Editions in a specific color inside this list as beneficial. So long, and thanks for all the fish (talk) 11:07, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Someone tried that, but consensus was against that article existing. Sergecross73 msg me 10:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Good point. I'm now seeing support e-mails on social media saying the opposite, so I rescind my recommendation until we get more official word/press coverage or literally see a cartridge in hand. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:56, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think that's all confirmed yet though, I think that's just something being reported from people on social media talking to Nintendo Customer Service, who isn't always an authority on things that aren't actually announced yet. Sergecross73 msg me 18:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Since the physical copies apparently contain Switch 1 cartridges and a code for the upgrade, rather than proper Switch 2 cartridges, I propose we merge the NS2E page with this one, but keep the games in a separate list from the "proper" Switch 2 games. By the time either list gets long enough that it will necessitate splitting, the console will be long out and we'll have more sources and examples of S2 Editions to help us better decide how to make that split, whether it be making NS2E its own page again, integrating everything into the full list and separating by title, or a halfway step between those options based on how the games are distributed. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
Adding Game Key Card Section with Checkmarks and X marks in the Nintendo Switch 2 Games Column?
editSince we know that Key Card Cartilages are going to be only used in many 3rd Party Games in Nintendo Switch 2 while Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition is going to be fully Cartilage while Daemon X Machina: Titanic Scion is getting a Key Card in Japan while it's fully cartilage in west. Should we might add the detail of Key Cards in the game columns listing in this article about which games are getting the Key Cards like it does (checkmarks), not (X marks), or slightly (checkmarks indicating it might get either ones with *s)? Something like this for example:
| Title | Developer(s) | Publisher(s) | Release date | Key Card | Ref. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition | CD Projekt Red | CD Projekt | June 5, 2025 | [Ref] | |
| Daemon X Machina: Titanic Scion | Marvelous First Studio | Marvelous | September 5, 2025 | [Ref] | |
| Mario Kart World | Nintendo | Nintendo | June 5, 2025 | [Ref] |
- 1 Game Key Card used only in Japan.
DigiPen92 (talk) 06:28, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- No, this is veering into WP:NOTCATALOGUE territory. There's already been consistent consensus against list out which games are physical or digital-only. This is just an extension of that. Sergecross73 msg me 11:03, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- I really disagree with that, that does sounds like very nonsense to not add that in. Technically Key Cards are a new thing that we know of it's physical and digital at the same time. It's doesn't make any lick of sense to not add that into the article. DigiPen92 (talk) 20:07, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- How is it any different than designating digital only releases, of which there is a consensus against doing? Sergecross73 msg me 20:59, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- I really disagree with that, that does sounds like very nonsense to not add that in. Technically Key Cards are a new thing that we know of it's physical and digital at the same time. It's doesn't make any lick of sense to not add that into the article. DigiPen92 (talk) 20:07, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- I came to the talk page specifically to request this in the table, but I see you've done a good job. I think you are correct and it would be senseless, to knowingly have this info available from people and not put it in the list.
- I also wanted a column for games that are just re-releases, remasters, ports or switch 2 editions. Not 3 columns. One column that could be used for any of the 3. I like knowing what is a switch 2 exclusive game. If like that on every console's games list. The header could be called "exclusive" and then have a checkmark or X like normal.
- The more info that can fit, the better. I can see that some of the other game lists have more columns and a long table, so it's definitely doable. Super tyguy (talk) 15:03, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree with this. There's a pretty high change that this new column either will mostly be unsourced or will be hard to source, failing WP:N. Signed, SleepyRedHair. (talk - contribs) 15:06, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- As I've mentioned before, we've had community discussions, and the consensus has fallen against columns related to physical/digital releases, games being exclusives, etc. Generally, it's due to WP:NOTCATALOGUE or it being difficult to find sources to track this for literally thousands and thousands of titles. Sergecross73 msg me 15:14, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Switch 2 Edition designation
editWith Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo introduced Nintendo Switch 2 Editions, a new type of “game” which is a Nintendo Switch 1 game, optimized with new features for Nintendo Switch 2. Now that the console has released, we now know that Switch 2 Edition games are a bundle, featuring the original game and a upgrade pack. Considering these are upgraded Nintendo Switch 1 games, and unlike cross-platform games on the PS4/PS5, are not separate ports, it may be a good idea to indicate Nintendo Switch 2 Edition games with them being a different color on the table. This would also help make the page have a better reading flow. Currently, many games on the page are labeled as [GAME] - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition. While this is the official title of these games, considering many titles have this name as a generic label of the fact that they are Nintendo Switch 2 Editions, and not part of their official title, like Monopoly for Nintendo Switch, making these a certain color would not be truncating the actual name of each game, and would improve readability. It would also help since official games by Nintendo are adding content to older Nintendo Switch games, making titles rather long, such as Kirby and the Forgotten Land - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Star-Crossed Worlds. If we can indicate that it’s a Nintendo Switch 2 Edition game by color, we can shorten it down to Kirby and the Forgotten Land + Star-Crossed Worlds, removing the generic branding while still being clear to the reader that it’s a Nintendo Switch 2 Edition, and that it adds new content. I am aware that discussion on whether it was needed was already done in the now-deleted page for Nintendo Switch 2 Editions, but I think there is a case for it being a simple distinction to be made in this page, and not being its own separate page. So long, and thanks for all the fish (talk) 01:32, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- "Considering these are upgraded Nintendo Switch 1 games, and unlike cross-platform games on the PS4/PS5, are not separate ports,"
- Do you have a source for this? Because on the console itself, if you press the plus button on a game, Switch 2 Editions are considered "Nintendo Switch 2 Software", whereas games that received a free update like Pokemon Scarlet & Violet are still considered "Nintendo Switch Software". As for the physical cartridges, they seem to work somewhat like Xbox's Smart Delivery where you can insert them into whichever console and it will launch the correct version.TheHumanIntersect (talk) 07:40, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Whenever you go purchase a Nintendo Switch 2 Edition game on the Nintendo eShop or My Nintendo Store, it's always shown as a bundle for the original game and the upgrade pack, and on every part of the Nintendo website they always describe it as a bundle. So long, and thanks for all the fish (talk) 09:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, but despite Nintendo's wording, it's still native Switch 2 software as far as I can tell. It's the same as buying a cross-gen bundle for a game on the PlayStation Store; you get both versions. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 09:27, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- If I'm wrong, I apologize. However, I still think a case should be made towards indicating Switch 2 Editions and shortening the titles. Because their naming only derives from the fact that it's a software of that nature, having Nintendo Switch 2 Edition show for every game that uses the format disrupts the flow really quickly. Aside from first party Nintendo games, the title only suggests that the game is on the system, which is already clear given what the page is about. So long, and thanks for all the fish (talk) 09:34, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm a bit confused on this point. Thus is the Switch 2 list. Why wouldn't we be using its Switch 2 version name here, even if it's long? Why would we use its Switch 1 name here? This feels like it would be confusing to the reader. Sergecross73 msg me 10:58, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Having a universal color that will inform the reader about Switch 2 Editions should eliminate problems with confusion. Many games that are multiplatform are arbitrarily called Nintendo Switch 2 Edition not for any differences, but just because that's how the Switch 2 handles cross-platform. Shadow Labyrinth Nintendo Switch 2 Edition is not distinctly different from Shadow Labyrinth on PlayStation 4 or 5. Conversely, Deltarune on Nintendo Switch 2 is distinctly different from every other version, but is not called a Switch 2 Edition since it doesn't operate on the same mechanics as those games. The name Nintendo Switch 2 Edition is entirely arbitrary, and is only named that by Nintendo as a generic name for any game with an upgrade. I fear that using this for every game doesn't help the article, and should be either replaced by color distinction or removed entirely. When a game is called Civilization VII on all platforms, Civilization VII Nintendo Switch 2 Edition gives off different connotations. So long, and thanks for all the fish (talk) 11:52, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I don't necessarily think we need to shorten the names, but I think an add-ons column like the List of PlayStation 5 games article would be helpful. That would let people easily sort for NS2E games, since they work similarly to the cross-buy games that are noted on those lists. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 11:02, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- And for that matter, we could also have an add-ons column on List of Nintendo Switch games to indicate the ones that received free updates but not full NS2 Edition ports, like Pokemon Scarlet & Violet, Mario Odyssey, etc. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 11:04, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm against any extra columns. See the list of Nintendo Switch games and all its splits. This list will likely become massive if it's properly maintained. We need to keep it simple with columns and content. Sergecross73 msg me 11:06, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if the column on the Switch 1 page is necessary, but I can see a column on the Switch 2 page helping with the issue. That, or a text marker. So long, and thanks for all the fish (talk) 11:56, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- And for that matter, we could also have an add-ons column on List of Nintendo Switch games to indicate the ones that received free updates but not full NS2 Edition ports, like Pokemon Scarlet & Violet, Mario Odyssey, etc. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 11:04, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm a bit confused on this point. Thus is the Switch 2 list. Why wouldn't we be using its Switch 2 version name here, even if it's long? Why would we use its Switch 1 name here? This feels like it would be confusing to the reader. Sergecross73 msg me 10:58, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- If I'm wrong, I apologize. However, I still think a case should be made towards indicating Switch 2 Editions and shortening the titles. Because their naming only derives from the fact that it's a software of that nature, having Nintendo Switch 2 Edition show for every game that uses the format disrupts the flow really quickly. Aside from first party Nintendo games, the title only suggests that the game is on the system, which is already clear given what the page is about. So long, and thanks for all the fish (talk) 09:34, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, but despite Nintendo's wording, it's still native Switch 2 software as far as I can tell. It's the same as buying a cross-gen bundle for a game on the PlayStation Store; you get both versions. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 09:27, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Whenever you go purchase a Nintendo Switch 2 Edition game on the Nintendo eShop or My Nintendo Store, it's always shown as a bundle for the original game and the upgrade pack, and on every part of the Nintendo website they always describe it as a bundle. So long, and thanks for all the fish (talk) 09:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Re-this discussion, I still believe addressing Nintendo Switch 2 Editions in some other way would be important. Like I explained previously, the name Nintendo Switch 2 Edition seems to just be a categorical name forced onto every title of that particular type, and not actually is part of "the name" in most cases. Labelling every single title with that name afterwards is about as meaningless as prefacing every PlayStation 5 game with "PlayStation 5 Title" or adding "Remake Version" to every game that is a remake. While I understand there is more naunce that should be discussed first, I think it should at least be considered, considering the very strange way Nintendo seemed to have made this type of software. ElevenHour (talk) 05:12, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- This is a non-issue. There's nothing special about games that have "Nintendo Switch 2 Edition" in the title. They are simply Nintendo Switch 2 games whose title is indicative of a new version. We don't alter game titles; we give them as presented. There are prior examples of ports and remasters of games that have the platform in the title:
- Minecraft: Xbox One Edition
- Cities: Skylines – PlayStation 4 Edition
- Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition
- Super Mario 64 DS
- Terraria: PS4 Edition
- Planet Coaster – Console Edition
Swordofneutrality (talk) 07:09, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Unlike those previous examples, Nintendo Switch 2 Edition is a console wide naming scheme. This is not various companies deciding to name games a certain way, this is a mandated name that applies to all software of this particular type. I think that warrents more consideration than other examples. ElevenHour (talk) 09:18, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Re-reading these discussions, I'm even more shocked you tried to implement your proposed change of altering/shortening names. Two editors opposed name shortening and no zero editors agreed with you. You didn't have a WP:CONSENSUS to make that change. Please don't do it again unless you do get a consensus.
- I'm still against this. There's no need to rename or shorten names for a list like this. If offers no benefit, but will almost certainly cause edit warring due to its unintuitive nature. People are constantly going to attempt "fixing" it.
- If Switch 2 Edition is in the name, it should say that on the list. Sergecross73 msg me 11:15, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- I apologize for misreading the consensus. Looking back at the discussion, I can see that the agreements were moreso about the idea of changing, rather than the specific proposal that I gave in the original discussion. However, I will still say that there were multiple editors who raised the point that some action could be taken, and that should perhaps be discussed further. ElevenHour (talk) 11:31, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- You may want to formulate/recap your proposal in a concise manner, and then reach out to WT:VG to get more input. A lot of the extra column or color coding proposals in recent years haven't garnered support. But the concept of a "Switch 2 Edition" is somewhat original and new, so maybe consensus will be different, you never know. Sergecross73 msg me 14:24, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- I apologize for misreading the consensus. Looking back at the discussion, I can see that the agreements were moreso about the idea of changing, rather than the specific proposal that I gave in the original discussion. However, I will still say that there were multiple editors who raised the point that some action could be taken, and that should perhaps be discussed further. ElevenHour (talk) 11:31, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
A note about primary sources
editSomeone keeps tagging sources as needing to be changed because they're primary sources. Please be aware of WP:PRIMARY - primary sources are allowed for things like basic objective facts. Simply sourcing a game's existence falls well within that. Per WP:PSTS, yes, third party sourcing is preferred - and a did replace some primary sources with third party ones - but its really not something we need to go about tagging like this. Sergecross73 msg me 17:48, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
