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GOAL!!!
editGOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!
Man United 1-0 Newcastle United Kobbie Mainoo 31'
Kobbie Mainoo: 3rd goal this season, 3rd goal in his Premier League career Corey Warburton (talk) 19:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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Kobbie is 6ft tall not 5ft9 81.103.90.18 (talk) 12:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Annh07 (talk) 12:27, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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kobie mainoo is 6ft tall but it sais he is 5ft 9 inches tall so i would like to change that Noahscholes8 (talk) 20:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Please see . Annh07 (talk) 20:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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Kobbie's height is 6'0", confirmed by him and Josh Denzel on the Lions' Den show on the England YT channel, linked here Jaysingh 10 (talk) 04:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Youtube is not considered a reliable source. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- The person being mentioned literally gets his height measured in the video, it is a reliable source. Krsctrl (talk) 11:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:RSPYOUTUBE and WP:BLPSELFPUB. This also contradicts a reliable source. CNC (talk) 11:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ironically I believe that may have been taken from this Wikipedia article, it is clearly not up to date.. the YouTube video linked is the most recent available information from just about a month ago & you quite literally cannot argue with the person in question being visibly shown to have his height measured. Krsctrl (talk) 11:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes you can, this is why YouTube and self-published sources are not reliable. It's irrelevant anyway, please read WP:TRUTH to understand how Wikipedia works. I otherwise highly doubt that England national team don't measure their players professionally, and simply "go to the Wikipedia article", unless you can have reliable source to back that. CNC (talk) 12:16, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ah I understand now. Seeing him in action & next to 6ft players it's still clear it's outdated but I expect that can't be updated on here until his official profile is as well. Krsctrl (talk) 12:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Done You're in luck, after an extensive search I found a reliable source confirming his height: "He has had a growth spurt this season and now stands around 6ft (182cm)."
CNC (talk) 13:24, 12 July 2024 (UTC)- @RedBull1984 forgot to add see talk in edit summary. CNC (talk) 17:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ah I understand now. Seeing him in action & next to 6ft players it's still clear it's outdated but I expect that can't be updated on here until his official profile is as well. Krsctrl (talk) 12:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes you can, this is why YouTube and self-published sources are not reliable. It's irrelevant anyway, please read WP:TRUTH to understand how Wikipedia works. I otherwise highly doubt that England national team don't measure their players professionally, and simply "go to the Wikipedia article", unless you can have reliable source to back that. CNC (talk) 12:16, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ironically I believe that may have been taken from this Wikipedia article, it is clearly not up to date.. the YouTube video linked is the most recent available information from just about a month ago & you quite literally cannot argue with the person in question being visibly shown to have his height measured. Krsctrl (talk) 11:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:RSPYOUTUBE and WP:BLPSELFPUB. This also contradicts a reliable source. CNC (talk) 11:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- The person being mentioned literally gets his height measured in the video, it is a reliable source. Krsctrl (talk) 11:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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He joined Manchester United at the age of six, not nine, as mentioned on the official club website as well as The New York Times. This is also mentioned by himself in his ITV Sport interview. Krsctrl (talk) 11:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done, but not as suggested. The sources state; "Scouted at the age of six", "signed up to United’s academy aged seven", , and "joining United's academy at the age of nine" . Thus independent events have been referenced as such. CNC (talk) 12:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Can I suggest that regarding the last line, rather than scouted "He first attended training sessions with" might be more accurate? Based on this quote from The New York Times article: "By that stage, Mainoo was trying out both United and City academy setups. His United connection started at six when he attended sessions put on by Manchester United Foundation at Moss Side. Dermot Clarke, a scout for the club, recognised Mainoo’s talent and, after a couple of sessions, invited him to train with United’s academy at The Cliff, the former first-team complex." The City mention could also be notable. Krsctrl (talk) 13:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Not done I think the more relevant content is that he was scouted by United, rather than attended MUF sessions. The latter is a charity than runs sessions for kids, it's not directly related to the academy as it were. If someone else thinks it's relevant to add then I'm not opposed to it, but it certainly shouldn't read "attended training sessions with Manchester United", as that would be false, it would need to specify "attended Manchester United Foundation training sessions". CNC (talk) 13:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Can I suggest that regarding the last line, rather than scouted "He first attended training sessions with" might be more accurate? Based on this quote from The New York Times article: "By that stage, Mainoo was trying out both United and City academy setups. His United connection started at six when he attended sessions put on by Manchester United Foundation at Moss Side. Dermot Clarke, a scout for the club, recognised Mainoo’s talent and, after a couple of sessions, invited him to train with United’s academy at The Cliff, the former first-team complex." The City mention could also be notable. Krsctrl (talk) 13:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Photo?
editCan someone help find a photo of Kobbie Mainoo we're allowed to use? I am not sure if we can use Fair Use from man united website.. I can't find any CC-BY photos of him, and Getty photos are like £300 each. --Stain (talk) 18:55, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know, right? TjazForint (talk) 05:57, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
WP:PUFFERY in lead
editAre there any reliable sources that say that Mainoo is widely regarded as one of the best young players in the world
? Spike 'em (talk) 10:47, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not denying he is a decent player, but this phrasing needs significant revent coverage. At present he is making fleeting substitute appearances for the 16th-placed team in the PL. Spike 'em (talk) 10:54, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- Eh. This had previously repeatedly been added without any sources, so I previously made an attempt to compromise and actually add the best sources I could find. The aforementioned sources rank him 9th, 10th and 14th, which in my eyes is a bit of an edge case for this claim - worth considering also that the source with Mainoo 10th is almost a year old, since one's youth doesn't last too long. The other source I found has him ranked 15th. I think it's a judgment call, but answering the question "is he widely regarded as one of the best in the world?", I'd personally lean towards "no". ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 11:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- I only started editting this page recently so didn't see this edit which removed the sources you added as
...not strong enough
, but left the text there! Using these as starting point I would agree with your assessment that it is not quite enough. This phrase will soon be redunant anyway. Spike 'em (talk) 11:31, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- I only started editting this page recently so didn't see this edit which removed the sources you added as
- Eh. This had previously repeatedly been added without any sources, so I previously made an attempt to compromise and actually add the best sources I could find. The aforementioned sources rank him 9th, 10th and 14th, which in my eyes is a bit of an edge case for this claim - worth considering also that the source with Mainoo 10th is almost a year old, since one's youth doesn't last too long. The other source I found has him ranked 15th. I think it's a judgment call, but answering the question "is he widely regarded as one of the best in the world?", I'd personally lean towards "no". ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 11:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- The other important point is that the lead is meant to summarise the rest of the article, so there should be detailied mention of his reputation in the main part of the article (and sourcing the claims there should be sufficient). Spike 'em (talk) 12:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)