Talk:Kanji Swami

NPoV

It has pramotional language which is not suitable for wikipedia. They do not show NPOV. Here are the examples:

• It has witnessed internal movements, a process of reforms and a strong undercurrent of sensible liberalism which have given it new directions time and again. Among these, the most successful twentieth century Jain movement has been spearheaded by Gurudev Shri Kanji Swami. Gurudev was instrumental in starting a new revolution in the percept and practice of Jainism, thereby putting thousands of souls on the true path of salvation
• "Even though he had some devotees, the Sthanakvasi community was understandably enraged by this betrayal and even his life was threatened. Kanji Swami fled to Songadh where eventually the local community became reconciled to him and indeed virtually all of the nearly 300 families who today live at Songadh and follow him claim to be of Sthanakvasi background. Gurudev Kanji Swami started discourses, many of which are recorded on tapes, in the form of running commentaries on Acharya KundKund's writings. He never wrote any books and did not claim to say anything new but merely reiterating the words of Arihantas, acharyas and other scholars apart from Bhagwan Mahavir Swami, KundKund Acharya and Pt. Todarmalji."
• Title: Gurudevshri's Discourses
• By now the following had grown quite large and the small house became inadequate so his devotees started a building project at Songadh in 1937, which culminated in the 'Digamber Jain Swadhyay Mandir'. In honour of his favourite scripture, one of his devotees, who was later to become the leader of his following, Bahenshri Champaben, installed the Samaysaar in the main temple and the words of Acharya KundKund's five main treatises have been engraved on its walls. A temple dedicated to Shrimandhar Swami was consecrated in 1941.

Kanji Swami travelled on pilgrimage throughout India where he gave discourses and consecrated many temples. In 1980 he visited Kenya and installed many images of Tirthankars at temples in various towns. He had a profound impact on one particular family in Mombasa, the Bhagwanji Kachra family, who have continued their support to-date and even in London take a very active role at the Digamber Jain Mandir in Harrow. After a very dynamic and undoubtedly a revolutionary life, Kanji Swami left for his heavenly abode in a state of Samadhi on 28th November.

• Nine thousand odd hours of his audio recordings are still available. Please visit vitragvani.com. ???

So please correct and remove such content but keep article as he is notable figure, It seems that this article had been written by his follower or in devotional language. I too had removed some parts. Please checkout for it on past versions.

Nizil (talk) 12:56, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I improved it a lot but help improve it further. --Nizil (talk) 23:33, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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Ongoing edit war

@Livingstonshr, you seem to be edging into edit war territory to preserve the state of the article. I think, for the most part, you're in the right here, but it's been pointed out by other editors you're not engaging in WP:BRD and it's probably time to talk about the state of the article and discuss how the criticism section can be improved along the lines of what some other editors want (if it can). Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 15:29, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

@Sharma386, as well. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 15:31, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

@Livingstonshr has again tampered with this page.plz see @Warrenmck Sharma386 (talk) 15:51, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, they're not tampering with it as much as keeping it from low quality POV edits. You're all over wikipedia making unacceptable changes to articles that have been reverted. If you'd like a specific change then maybe discuss it, because edit warring over it doesn't seem like the best idea, and a lot of what's being edited in is hyper-partisan opinion stuff. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 15:55, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

@WarrenmckIt is not what you are thinking, the information added there is fair and true, you can get information about Kanji Swami. Sharma386 (talk) 15:59, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Stop adding unreliable sources. Livingstonshr (talk) 16:11, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

is not what you are thinking

As far as I can tell from the edits and other edits on this topic from you, it's exactly what it appears to be. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 16:13, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

I think you are unaware about the page edit history. This incorrectly sourced information was added by sockpuppet ParvatPrakash who has been suspended. Livingstonshr (talk) 15:42, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

That's fine, which is why I reverted my own revert earlier (it looks like you're maintaining the more NPOV version) but at the same time some of the content I see being removed doesn't look like it wouldn't pass WP:RS. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 15:43, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Accounts on both sides of these edits have been blocked for sockpuppetry so figuring out who is correct is rather difficult. However, I just ran all those paragraphs through the Hive AI-Generated Content Detector and all but one came back as at or near 100% AI-generated; the one that did not came back at around 70%. AI-generated content does not belong on Wikipedia.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 19:07, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

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Non Dualism

There is a similarity between Jainism and Non-dualism, as both emphasize the discrimination between the self and the non-self. However, there are also significant differences. Jainism believes in an infinite number of individual souls, whereas Vedanta claims there is only one universal Self. Jains have criticized this idea, asking: if the pure, singular consciousness is already liberated, then who is ignorant? Who is experiencing suffering, the non-self? And if so, why should we be concerned about the non-self at all? Moreover, how and why did tangible matter, space and time arise from a non-physical consciousness? 2603:8000:2F0:8100:652A:FFC8:7781:216E (talk) 09:26, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

Adding to this, goal of this practice in Jainism is 4th gunasthanak, where onwards the spiritual journey towards liberation just begins. Advait vedant calls this itself liberation. 2603:8000:2F0:8100:652A:FFC8:7781:216E (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

But what's this about vedanta, the self-non self discrimination was preached by oldest Sankhya Hindu philosophers way before yoga and advaita, with common metaphysics as Jains. 2603:8000:2F0:8100:652A:FFC8:7781:216E (talk) 10:35, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

Agustin Panikar: nondualism. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 10:49, 16 October 2025 (UTC)