Talk:Joko Widodo

Latest comment: 2 months ago by AdaCiccone in topic Engineer

Covid 19 response

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I think we need to mention Joko Widodo's covid-19 response. It is for every world leader a major part of discussion for their legacy. SwoerMell (talk) 12:07, 22 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

More fitting for Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan. Geanard (talk) 07:45, 18 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Bit of both I’d say. At least mention his public statements and his appointment of Luhut. Juxlos (talk) 10:15, 18 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
And note that Luhut is a general without an MD. Martindo (talk) 01:13, 18 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Joko Widodo's name

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A note at the start of the article states that Joko Widodo has no family name or patronymic and should thus be referred to using his full name 'Joko Widodo', or 'Jokowi' for short. Yet the article consistently refers to him as 'Widodo'. I am not Indonesian, but it seems to me that this is as odd as having the article about Joe Biden consistently refer to him as 'Robinette' or something like that. The articles in Indonesian and Javanese about him call him Jokowi. Most reputable English language newspapers do so too. This article should be changed to follow that convention as well. caoimhinoc (talk) 23:04, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

I've replaced the most mentions of his name with "Jokowi" for now. That seems most appropriate. I hereby undid SteelerFan1933's 30 March edits which among things messed up the part on Jokowi's childhood name and several titles of external references. I've noticed that the articles on other Indonesian figures are messed up in a similar way. caoimhinoc (talk) 02:05, 15 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Background

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NY Times just published a lengthy article on the new capital (16 May 2023), which includes some background on Jokowi. Although it's a puff piece with muted criticisms of the project, it's worth citing as a reliable source in English. Indonesian-language sources (such as a Tribun article from 2012 to describe his accomplishments as mayor) are not as "accessible" to most WP editors, and some of the translations are poor, as I noted in edits a few minutes ago. Martindo (talk) 01:18, 18 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Non-neutral lede

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The current lede is very generous to the subject and violates NPOV. Phrases like "achieved national prominence", "reinvigorated local politics", "improved the city's bureaucracy, reducing corruption in the process", "focused on economic growth", "ambitious health and education agenda", "emphasised "protecting Indonesia's sovereignty"", as well as the unusually personal origins story "born and raised in a riverside slum", "married his wife", "worked as a carpenter and a furniture exporter". Not all of this is biased, but it is when taken all together.

As well as this, it makes no mention of either the 2019 Indonesian protests and riots or the Indonesia omnibus law protests, or of the laws which provoked them, despite being very significant laws and the largest protests in Indonesia since the emergence of democracy. Fedjmike (talk) 02:33, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Read your concerns and I've trimmed the lead, have a look at it if you have time. AdaCiccone (talk) 08:52, 11 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Engineer

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He is called an engineer in lede and in info box but there is no reference to him being an engineer or studying engineering in the text. LibStar (talk) 05:09, 15 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

The word 'engineer' doesn't even appear in the entire article. The lead describes him as working in the furniture industry (including as an exporter), which is supported by the body article. AdaCiccone (talk) 06:25, 19 April 2026 (UTC)Reply