Talk:HMS Victor Emmanuel/GA1

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Nominator: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 11:30, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 19:51, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

I'll take this! Time to get back in the saddle. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 19:51, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

• Victor Emmanuel was not "ordered on 4 April 1851 as a 91-gun second rate" - she was ordered on 4 April 1851 as an 80-gun ship, and re-classed as 91 guns on 15 November 1852
  • Oops, good catch
• Link Pembroke Dockyard rather than Pembroke Dock
  • Can't imagine what I was thinking
• Suggest replacing the Clifford link with his personal red link, he's notable enough for an article to appear at some stage
  • Done
• Do we know what the grounding damage was?
  • No, only that it cost 79 pounds to fix, so could not have been very consequential
• Also which type of guns were removed for the reduction to 79?
  • Unknown
• Explain that between 1862 and 1873 Victor Emmanuel remained at Portsmouth
  • See if the current wording is satisfactory
• "there from on 11 December 1874." needs a little rejig
  • Fixed
• "was serving as the receiving ship at Hong Kong by 1886" I think better wording would be to say that she became Hong Kong RS in 1866, seems closer to Winfield's words
  • Reworked with a better source
• Can we confirm if the ship was paid off at the end of Church's tenure in 1890, or continued in some other role/with another captain until 1899?
  • Almost positive that the ship remained there until replaced by Tamar in 1897, but no source for that. Just kept on trawling through the Navy Lists until I produced a complete list of her Commodores.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:40, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
• Further commodores; William Henry Cuming 2 May 1881 - 13 June 1884, George Digby Morant 14 February 1884 - 1887?
  • Do you think that is reliable?
    • Unfortunately not. Try the Navy List; for Cuming and for Morant, etc
• Do you know whether the crew formed part of the naval brigade during the Ashantee War? I see Clowes (p.262 vol 7) has Captain Parkin being mentioned in despatches as part of the campaign.
  • Almost positive that it didn't; there's no mention of anyone from the ship in the Naval Landing Brigade in Lloyd. I'd bet that Parkin earned his MiD for simply commanding his ship in trying conditions.
• The VC Edward St John Daniel deserted Victor Emmanuel at Corfu on 27 June 1861 after being arrested for sodomising junior officers - looks like this was a major factor in his being removed from the VC register?
  • Your source?
    • Try these two; and
• A minor extra point, but The Drums of Kumasi p. 89 has the ship fitted for 240 hospital beds
• According to Early China Coast Meteorology p.52 she was still the base ship at Hong Kong in March 1882 when she was fitted with a time ball to be dropped every day until an observatory could be built
  • Added
• Sourcing is reliable if limited - no issues with what has already been used
  • Thanks for pointing me to all the other sources.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 07:53, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
• @Sturmvogel 66: Hi, let me know about these. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 20:28, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

• @Sturmvogel 66: See my recent responses regarding extra sources. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 14:51, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

• See how it reads now--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:06, 11 June 2026 (UTC)