Talk:Genetic studies on Serbs

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Miki Filigranski in topic Column header issues

Comparative analytical review to the latest genetic research origin of Serbs and the population of Serbia - ethnological perspective(Translated)

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Компаративни аналитички осврт на најновија генетска истраживања порекла Срба и становништва Србије – етнолошка перспектива

I2a 29,1%, R1a 20,4%, E1b1b 18,5%, G 5,8%, I1 7,8%, J2b 2,9%, J2a 4%, J1 1%, R1b 7,8%, I2b 1%, N 1,9%

Ивица Тодоровић Етнографски институт САНУ, Београд

Анђелка Вучетић-Драговић Анђелко Марић Национални криминалистичко-технички центар МУП-а Републике Србије

https://doiserbia.nb.rs/img/doi/0350-0861/2014/0350-08611402099T.pdf Nikola1971 (talk) 10:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Already cited.--Miki Filigranski (talk) 13:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Column header issues

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Regarding this section. Not sure why Y-DNA L is classified within the "Mediterranean & Near Eastern" header but Y-DNA H as "South Asian" when both these haplogroups are primarily restricted to modern South Asia. Secondly, if the L in question is of ancient Mediterranean & Near Eastern variety, isn't the H among Serbs is also of the European Neolithic variety considering one H2 was detected among the Vinča culture samples? Pinging @Doug Weller: for suggestions. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:22, 1 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, just saw this. In fact, just able to read in the last few minutes after exam for cataract surgery, which I'll have Thursday. But I'm really no expert on this. I could look tomorrow if I remember, dinner now and tv, and using only my iPad. Doug Weller talk 16:49, 1 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Nope, I don't think this is in my wheelhouse. Sorry. Doug Weller talk 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
The header is unfortunately misleading as haplogroups in a specific population cannot be described in such a manner, there's various subclades of a macro-haplogroup which are more or less frequent in a specific geographic location. The subclades in Serbia/Serbs do not necessarily have same frequency and distribution as a macro-haplogroup (or some other prominent subclades within it). Haplogroup L, as a sister haplogroup of T, has been found since the Neolithic and later times in the Near East and parts of Europe. Also, haplogroup Haplogroup I-M253 (I1) is not West European but North or Northeastern European.--Miki Filigranski (talk) 19:53, 2 June 2025 (UTC)Reply