Talk:Flora of Turkey

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What needs to be done? Chidgk1 (talk) 10:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• One point that needs to be clear in the article is that the distribution of plants uses the World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions (WGSRPD). See List of codes used in the World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions for its coding system. The political country of Turkey is divided into two botanical areas:
  • TUE – Turkey in Europe – part of 13 Southeastern Europe – part of 1 Europe → Category:Flora of European Turkey
  • TUR – (the rest of) Turkey – part of 34 Western Asia – part of 3 Temperate-Asia → Category:Flora of Turkey

Peter coxhead (talk) 11:12, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

@Peter coxhead Thanks for quick response. Do you have any idea what I could delete from the “Botanical Resources” section? For example as there is a German article are any of the German ones still useful to readers of this article do you think? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

They might be useful to specialists, but probably not to the general reader that we are supposed to be aiming at. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

The sentence in the second paragraph "The flora of the European part of Turkey is similar to that of adjoining Greece. The ecoregions here include Balkan mixed forests dominated by oaks and containing Scots pine, Bosnian pine, Macedonian pine, silver fir and Norway spruce,[3]" doesn't make it clear that many of those species only occur much further northwest in the Balkans, and do not occur in Turkey - MPF (talk) 01:36, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

@MPF Thanks. Is “dominated by oaks” correct do you know? I deleted the other species. Chidgk1 (talk) 09:42, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

@Chidgk1 thanks! Yes, "dominated by oaks" is OK, though Lime (Tilia spp.), Maple (Acer spp.) and Hornbeam (Carpinus spp.) are also significant. Scots Pine is also present in Turkey, but Bosnian Pine, Macedonian Pine and Norway Spruce don't occur in Turkey at all, and the Abies in Turkey is a different (though closely related) species. - MPF (talk) 14:27, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

@MPF @Peter coxhead It says “Such conditions favour the growth of hard-leaved[clarification needed] evergreen trees such as Kermes Oak (Quercus coccifera) and Turkish Pine (Pinus brutia).” I suspect English was not the writer’s native language- should I delete “hard-leaved” do you think or does it have some special meaning? Chidgk1 (talk) 11:50, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@Chidgkl: I suspect it just means "evergreen", but the key question is what is source and what does it say? Peter coxhead (talk) 16:20, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks - I deleted the sentence as unsourced Chidgk1 (talk) 12:59, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

The "Diversity and endemism" and "Vegetation types" sections need to be rewritten from scratch. I found four sources that should help and linked them at the top of the talk page. Do you want to do work in a sandbox or edit the article directly? PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke) 06:30, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Actually, there's a lot of good references in the article already (mostly added by Chidgk1). Maybe we could pick a few that have a broad scope to use for the base of the article, then use the others to expand on that base? PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke) 06:47, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Initial thoughts on the sources in the article:

Sources with broad coverage: Biodiversity of Turkey, Vegetation chapter of The Soils of Turkey, A Review of the Forest..., Climate Change Impacts (pp. 99–133), The climate and vegetation of Turkey

Other sources of varying usefulness (some are fairly relevant, others are tangentially related): WWF ecoregion descriptions, The Anatolian Diagonal..." A new check-list..., Common edible..., One Earth ecoregion descriptions, The Agricultural Regions of Turkey, The State of Turkey's... Spatial and temporal..., General Characteristics..., Land Degradation Neutrality, Flowers of Turkey. A photo guide, Causes of land..., the National Biodiversity Action Plan, IUCN, A reconstruction..., Desertification in Algeria and..., Flora of Turkey, Volume 1

Sources whose reliability is questionable: allaboutturkey.com (not plant experts), Britannica (this is probably fine, but see WP:BRITANNICA), The Guide Istanbul (not plant experts), Check-list of the Freshwater... (unsure if the journal is reliable), Frontiers (this might be fine, but see WP:CITEWATCH and User:JzG/Predatory/F) Journal of Bartin Faculty of Forestry. (they mention being indexed by Index Copernicus)

This isn't at all definitive, but the first five sources will likely be especially helpful for this article. PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke) 08:54, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Soil

I have asked at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Soil#Is this project still active? Chidgk1 (talk) 10:42, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Should tree info be moved to forest in Turkey

? Chidgk1 (talk) 11:30, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

I wouldn't say the current information exceeds WP:SS. CMD (talk) 11:51, 11 March 2025 (UTC)