Talk:Ena

Character

They did not mention another character ya know blue and yellow 2A0D:3344:101:7B10:348F:7DAC:D539:C8DB (talk) 17:07, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Be bold! If you feel strongly that an article deserves to exist about a character, make it so. Making your first article is certainly daunting, but it is worth the effort! Mia yun Ruse (talk) 19:40, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

now that it has a game, it really should have an article. 64.83.140.155 (talk) 11:35, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Split people section into its own article?

I suggest we split the content in the Ena#People section into its own article titled Ena (name). There are a lot of articles about people with the given name/nickname, which is why I believe splitting the section would be appropriate. Let me know what you all think, let's build some consensus. 1isall (talk) 23:26, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Per WP:NAMELIST, this should be done to avoid having too long a list.

https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Ena shows that readers are perusing this part of the list a lot - in April:

• Ena ENA:_Dream_BBQ link 349
• Ena Hatsune_Miku:_Colorful_Stage! link 42
• Ena Ena_Sharples link 32
• Ena Victoria_Eugenie_of_Battenberg link 30
• Ena Bambi,_a_Life_in_the_Woods link 27
• Ena Ena_von_Baer link 20
• Ena Ena_Fujita link 20
• Ena Ena_Begović link 16
• Ena Ena_Shibahara link 11
• Ena Ena_Sandra_Causevic link 11
• Ena Ena_Kadic link 11
• Ena Ena_Baga link 11
• Ena Ena_Fitzgerald link 10

Of the total 954 identifiable clickstreams, that's actually the majority. Another 654 are filtered, and the total traffic was 3.7k that month.

So if we move all this to a separate list, this will just mean we'll hide these popular entries behind another click. I'm not sure the list is long enough to warrant that sort of a change. --Joy (talk) 09:17, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

I think this list is long enough for the split. In fact, there are surname pages with only two entries on their lists, yet they exist. 1isall (talk) 14:58, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Split out of a larger list because of two entries? Where did that happen?

Anyway, one of the key points of the disambiguation guideline is efficiency. Ensuring that a reader who searches for a topic using a particular term can get to the information on that topic quickly and easily. It's not clear how splitting out a separate list would aid that. --Joy (talk) 18:19, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Then we would just replace the entire section with the link to the list's new article. People will click it and find it there. Simple as that! 1isall (talk) 18:45, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

I might go over to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anthroponymy and see what people there think about this split. 1isall (talk) 21:05, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

The perennial question of navigation is whether it's better to categorize clearly at the cost of more clicks, or to aim to reduce the number of clicks a reader has to make. I tend to lean towards the latter, because it's possible readers will not properly grasp our labelling and categorization, and give up in favor of using a search engine. --Joy (talk) 20:15, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

So, what's the verdict? To split or not to split? 1isall (talk/contribs) 18:56, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

But we should probably get more opinions to grow a bigger consensus. 1isall (talk/contribs) 18:56, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

Clarification: I was talking about other surname pages with two entries, not this one. 1isall (talk) 21:16, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Obviously, this list of people and fictional characters with the name doesn't have only two entries. Sorry for the confusion again. 1isall (talk) 21:23, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Update: I've added some more articles of people, as well as a fictional character, all with the given name Ena, to the list. Would it be considered long enough for a split now? Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 18:10, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

Also worth mentioning is that another user added John Ena Jr. to the surname section. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 18:13, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

Hi, yeah that's me. I was considering whether a separate Ena (surname) page would be appropriate, but I generally don't make those when there are this few English language Wikipedia pages for people with the surname and I can't find good sources on it's origins as a surname. I do think an Ena (name) page could still be appropriate. Ike Lek (talk) 19:52, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

As far as I know, a name list page should start with at least two entries. There are some surname pages that have two, like this one and this one. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 19:56, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

Oh, they absolutely can, although ones with only 2 entries can go either way in terms of consensus. I just don't tend to make them myself if I can't find either more than 3 instances on English Wikipedia or good sources on the origins of the surname. Ike Lek (talk) 20:01, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

Want me to contact the relevant WikiProject linked at the top of this talk page? Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 20:06, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

I found your proposal through WikiProject Anthroponymy because I was considering joining it. I am not saying Ena (surname) cannot be a page. I am saying that I am not going to create it. I think creating Ena (name) could be a good idea. Ike Lek (talk) 20:17, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

Oh yeah, about the notice of the proposal at that WikiProject...

Nobody responded to it. I guess they weren't interested. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 03:41, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't really know what's going on there, but your proposal is a pretty routine thing that just gets done without discussion a lot of the time. Ike Lek (talk) 06:00, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

The list of people/characters with the name currently has 42 entries, consisting of:

• 35 people (living and dead)
  • 32 with the given name/nickname/stage name
  • 3 with the surname
• 7 fictional characters

Probably enough for a split, as long as there's consensus. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 10:06, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

@Ike Lek What should I do now since Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthroponymy isn't interested? Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 13:16, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

If you feel comfortable, I would recommend going ahead and creating a page for Ena (name). I am not the most experienced editor, so take what I have to say with a grain of salt, but I have done something similar on a smaller scale for Claydon (surname), Meggitt (surname), and Gonne (surname). Once the new page is to your liking and up to standards, you could then replace the entries in the "people" section of the disambiguation page with a link to the name page, or, if that would now be the only entry in the section, delete the section and instead add it the the "other uses" section. Ike Lek (talk) 21:23, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

I guess it's time to create the page! Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 21:27, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

Just created the page! Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 21:40, 14 July 2025 (UTC)