Talk:Create (song)

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Kyle Peake in topic GA review
Good articleCreate (song) has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 19, 2025Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 9, 2025.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that "Create", the theme song to the 35th anniversary of Super Mario Bros., features various Nintendo references?

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 16:13, 2 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

5x expanded by IanTEB (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

IanTEB (talk) 17:37, 3 February 2025 (UTC).Reply

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.
Overall: 5x expansion, though Idk why you don't just expand the article, when you create it, long enough, well-sourced, its neutral, 26.5% on Earwig, hook is interesting and is cited, qpq is done. Passed, great work expanding creating and expanding this song. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:40, 5 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

GA review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Create (song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: IanTEB (talk · contribs) 16:58, 5 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC)Reply


  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):
    b. (citations to reliable sources):
    c. (OR):
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):
    b. (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

I will review this over today and tomorrow! --K. Peake 07:28, 14 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Infobox and lead

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  • Infobox looks good!
  • To avoid a run-on, I would suggest ending the second sentence after the mention of the 2020 commercial
  •  Done
  • Start a new sentence at "Speedstar Records released it..."
  •  Done
  • "the track, and" → "the song, and"
  • Wikilink Super Mario
  • This refers to the video game that is linked before. Clarified this
  • Second paragraph looks good!
  • "directed the music video for "Create" using" → "directed an accompanying music video using" and I would suggest merging this para with the above one since three sentences each is too short
  • I think 'accompanying' is implied. I would prefer keeping seperate paragraphs since these discuss distinct aspects: reception and promotion.

Background and release

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  • "and keyboard,[3] aided by" → "and keyboards,[3] aided by"
  •  Done
  • Second and third para look good!

Writing

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  • Since there are two people mentioned, "co" is implied
  • The completion and remix pieces of information are not sourced
  • Shouldn't the ref at the end of the messing around sentence link to page 2?
  • There is information needed from both pages. I have implemented Template:rp as a solution
  • Songs being part of what was jammed is not sourced, nor is the name Mario session
  • None of the last sentence is sourced
  • It appears I mixed up my sources quite a bit here. There was another Real Sound interview which I confused for the one sourced. I believe all citations lead to the right places now.

Composition and lyrics

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  • Audio sample is too long, also remove included in sample from the end since this is implied
  •  Done
  • Digital piano is not mentioned by the source
  • Rhodes piano and Nord Electro are digital pianos
  • "Hoshino additionally provided" → "Hoshino additionally provides"
  •  Done
  • 「そのアッパーなテンション感にもなんだか久しぶりに出会う感じがする」
  • Remove the comma after 8-bit music
  •  Done
  • The flashing and B-dashing quote is not sourced
  • 「8ビットサウンドがスターを取ったマリオみたいにキラキラ光りながらBダッシュする3分54秒」
  • The word dull is not sourced
  • Changed to "increasingly stagnant".「〈澱むこの世界〉の閉塞感を前にして、〈途方もない 学びを繰り返し〉ながらとにかく〈遊ぶ〉んだ、と星野はここで告げている」
  • Fire Flower itself is not mentioned by the source
  •  Removed
  • The full line for hanafuda is not sourced
  •  Fixed
  • The lines quoted about his subarachnoid hemorrhage do not match the source
  • Translation of lyrics is taken from the official website

Reception

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  • Img looks good!
  • First para looks good!
  • The words "hectic" and "illuminating" are not sourced, unless my translator is faulty?
  • Hectic is sourced (「目まぐるしく展開させていく本曲」), "illuminating" was "imaginative", which I must have misread
  • The vibraphone jingle is sourced as "an indescribable 'otherworldly' feeling" on my translator
  • This is exactly what is in the article.
  • I don't think writing "some critics" is suitable when it is only Tomohiro Ogawa and maybe the next one critic in this para who are sourced as saying this; re-word to mentioning Ogawa here suitably
  • RockinOn is also sourced here. We do not need to mention the exact works of multiple critics if one sufficies, but we can still highlight that it was a shared opinion
  • "It reached tenth on the" → "The song reached tenth on the"
  • Song appears in the following sentence so this breaks up repetition. "It" does also appear in the previous sentence, but the short-length of "it" makes it far less repetetive.

Music video and performances

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  • "Hoshino sings and performs" → "Hoshino sings as he performs"
  •  Done
  • "performs Satoru Iwata's pose" → "performs Iwata's pose"
  • Iwata is mentioned more than three paragraphs earlier, and only in passing. I would not expect readers to remember the name and "Iwata" alone is too ambiguous to look up
  • The tricky progression and exclamation parts do not appear to be sourced
  • 「複雑でトリッキーな曲の展開について星野が「大丈夫ですかね?(笑)」とバンドメンバーに確認するひと幕も。」「バンドメンバーが奏でるアウトロが止むと、「できたぞ! 素晴らしい」と笑顔を弾けさせ」(Natalie)

Track listing

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  • Good

Credits and personnel

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Charts

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  • Good

Certifications

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  • Good

Notes

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  • Good

References

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  • Good

Final comments and verdict

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  • IanTEB You should change the track to the song in the lead for consistency, also change to Iwata only on second mention per WP:SURNAME as this is not a large article. --K. Peake 07:34, 16 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
    @Kyle Peake: I do not believe that the use of a synonym ("track"/"song") is a consistency error. In fact, track is in this case more appropriate since it is used in a sentence that discusses production. WP:SURNAME is to avoid repetetive use of full names, as evidenced by the example used in the policy page, and not the kind of case here (see WP:IGNORE). IanTEB (talk) 11:10, 16 April 2025 (UTC)Reply