Talk:Cleopatra Selene II

Latest comment: 8 days ago by Spelmuis in topic Inventing history by making up sources

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Cleopatra was the "younger twin"? I've always thought that twins have the same age...--Vermondo 23:27, 1 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Heh, well they don't exactly come out side-by-side... Laura Scudder 03:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

There's no documentation of which was born first (though it seems that a common assumption/misconception is that the male of a set of boy-girl twins is always born first). Either way, I changed it.204.10.247.1 (talk) 00:47, 9 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

She is born 40 BC, marries around 20 BC and gets her children twenty years and more later at an age of 40 plus? The sources for these dates need checking. Highly unusual and also unlikely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.37.181.81 (talk) 22:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Death date?

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It is written that Cleopatra Selene II survived to adulthood, married, had children, died and was buried in a tomb that still exists (at least in part). Can any of the experts in this area of history provide an estimated year of death for her? I don't see one. (71.22.47.232 (talk) 20:57, 11 July 2010 (UTC))Reply

Identity of her daughter

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The name of her daughter has been suggested as Drusilla, but sources state that the information is open to interpretation. See Selen for instance. Given the apparent competing theories I personally think that should be reflected in the article. --AnnekeBart (talk) 03:41, 3 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Her brothers

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The statement in this article that Alexander Helios and Ptolemy Philadelphos were dead at the time of this Cleopatra's marriage are the opposite of the statement in the Alexander Helios article, which says that they were alive. Since the Alexander Helios article cites a source (Cassius Dio) and this one doesn't, I think this is the entry that should be amended to reconcile the two. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pugnaciousignatius (talkcontribs) 20:03, 9 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

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May concern lang Ako isa Ako sa costumers

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Cleopatra as dating employees

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Inventing history by making up sources

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An example: The article states: "When Octavian returned to Rome he brought the captured Cleopatra Selene and her surviving brothers with him as captives. During his triumph celebrating his conquest of Egypt, he paraded the twins dressed as the moon and the sun in heavy golden chains, behind an effigy of their mother clutching an asp to her arm. The chains were so heavy that the children were unable to walk in them, eliciting unexpected sympathy from many of the Roman onlookers."

This is credited to Duane W. Roller - The World of Juba II and Kleopatra Selene - Royal Scholarship on Rome's African Frontier (2003), pp. 82-85, who in fact writes: "Kleopatra Selene’s introduction to Rome was at a triumph, the triple triumph of August 29BC after Octavian’s leisurely return to Rome. The first day was devoted to Illyricum, the second to Actium, and the third to Egypt, on which the twins participated as a symbolic Moon and Sun." (p. 83).

No "effigy of their mother", no "golden chains", no "children unable to walk", no "sympathy" from "Roman onlookers"! Spelmuis (talk) 14:43, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply