Talk:Amasa E. Killam

Latest comment: 11 hours ago by DoNothingEveryday in topic Did you know nomination

Did you know nomination

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Killam in 1895
Killam in 1895
  • ... that Amasa E. Killam (pictured) worked as postmaster general, then railroad manager, then politician, then bridge inspector, and then president of the American Railway Bridge and Building Association?
    • ALT1: ... that Amasa E. Killam worked as postmaster general, then railroad manager, then politician, then bridge inspector, and then president of the American Railway Bridge and Building Association? Source: [3][4]
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: 3rd time I'm here. I know it's weirdly worded, if you want to change how the sentence's flow works, I won't judge.

Also, the 2nd source detailing his early life might be unreliable, but I don't think they would lie about his career as president of their company. Check if need be.

ALT1 is just the fact without the image.

5x expanded by DoNothingEveryday (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

DoNothingEveryday (talk) 13:26, 20 June 2026 (UTC).Reply

Okay! DoNothingEveryday (talk) 14:22, 25 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: nearly everything is fine, did some copyedits on the article, it has one [citation needed] tag that needs to be fixed. The currently presented hooks also arent interesting enough. A more interesting hook is needed Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 13:05, 25 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

    Hello, already rectify the citation needed thing (from the Bradley Shoebottom journal). Also, here are some more hooks that may be more interesting, possibly:
      • ALT3: ... that Amasa E. Killam (pictured) was sued over the non payment of a one thousand dollar bill?

    Please choose what intrigues you the most. I'll be sleeping now. Thanks DoNothingEveryday (talk) 14:22, 25 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

    @Finnfrog99, almost forgot to tag uou, whoops! DoNothingEveryday (talk) 14:46, 25 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Sorry, none of these are particularily interesting, and the article has nothing better, so i have to fail this. Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 14:55, 25 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

    • I think we should try to work with the nominator here as a relatively new contributor to DYK, although I have to agree with Finnfrog that these hooks are pretty dull. I do think there's some potential to ALT4, perhaps building on the fact from the source that the move to list it on the municipal registry (not the Canadian Registry, which is distinct; the house had been on the federal registry since 2005) came after the owner's plans to demolish it, although "replace it with a driveway" leaves out the important context that the driveway is for a six-storey apartment building, not just being put in for the pleasure of knocking down old houses. DoNothingEveryday, is there anything else interesting you found in your research that might not be in the article and that might make for a good hook? Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:45, 25 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
      • @Dclemens1971 Hello! Sorry for the late reply on my behalf, I was at school when you messaged me, so forgive me. Anyways, here are some research I could find for the Killam house:
        • The original article states that the Killam house was added to the Candian registry in 2005 but not in the municipal registry. The federal says it's an example of "well-preserved Queen Anne architecture."
        • The official register states that the Killam house was built in circa 1898 - 1899, apparently built for A. E. Killam himself, but I don't know what records they have for that that say it was originally built for him. Anyways, it has been said to be accurately restored by its long-term current owners. It's architectural style from Queen Anne's architecture

    That's legitimately it for the Killam House, if there's something interesting here, I guess it's fine. When you don't, it's fine as well. I mostly expanded Killam's article just so I get a DYK section again, so I don't mind if this is deleted. Cheers DoNothingEveryday (talk) 12:04, 26 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

    DoNothingEveryday Sorry, I should have been clearer in my question - is there anything else interesting on Killam himself you found in your research that didn't make it into the article? Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:05, 26 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Whoops! Sorry about that @Dclemens1971, actually I had, but it's from a very dubious source here. Some notable facts about him in this biography:
    • "At the age of 14 he took charge of a woodland farm, clear-ing and improving it, working on the farm in the summer time and in the lumber woods during the winter. Before he reached the age of 22 he had cleared and improved 100 acres of wood-land and had built his own house and barn, doing all the mechanical work, except the window sash, himself."
    • He is "affectionately" referred to as "Johnnie Bull"
    • He "voluntarily took position as chairman of the entertainment committee" (Killam made an unforgettable meeting in Quebec)
    • "It is said that in 1896, when the Salvation Army first came to Moncton, there was much opposition, particularly as to their custom of street parades, and an effort was made to have the legislature prevent this. It was through Mr. Killam's influence that the Salvation Army was allowed the privilege of worship in accordance with its own custom, and it has since proved itself a useful adjunct to the community."

    I don't think they're a reputable source, it seems like they're embellishing Killam here, but what do I know. DoNothingEveryday (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2026 (UTC

    DoNothingEveryday Do you really think that the "memoir" (aka remembrance) of Killam published by his trade association is dubious? I ask because you've used it eight times in the article, and if you think so you should probably replace those citations. I would find it not dubious; I expect it is based on stories he told about himself in addition to the writer's personal knowledge of Killam. If you are willing to reconsider your assessment of it as a "dubious" source, I would suggest ALT4: ... that from age 14 to 22, Amasa E. Killam (pictured) personally cleared 100 acres (40 ha) of New Brunswick woodlands and built a barn and farmhouse on it? I think this is interesting. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:13, 29 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Hello! @Dclemens1971, not necessarily "dubious", but more "exagerrated" as in told in a more positive light, but I digress. I may have worded things wrongly, sorry! I have to admit my faults of wrongly dubbing that source dubious, though. I'll be adding some of that experiences in his memoirs tomorrow, since it's night time at my home and I'll be busy at school. Cheers! DoNothingEveryday (talk) 14:31, 29 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
    FWIW I don't think they read as exaggerated. I wouldn't use the fluffy/positive interpretive material ("splendid farm", "nothing daunted") but for the basic facts I'd expect the source to be reliable. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:35, 29 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
    Okay, @Dclemens1971, I see it! Will add those tomorrow! Any other feedback on the article? This is my first time actually 5x expanding an article (next to Robert H. Carnahan but that comes from a single source), and I want to see your feedback on it. Cheers. DoNothingEveryday (talk) 14:42, 29 June 2026 (UTC)Reply