Talk:2025–26 European windstorm season

Storm Amy

Just some info, don't know exactly how to word the citation, so I'll have someone else put it in. But I did see on the Met Office website (metoffice.gov.uk) that a wind gust of 102 mph (164 km/h) was reported at Tiree at around 9pm local time on Oct 3rd. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:16, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

I will also add (again, off the live Met Office site) that at 8pm BST, Tiree also reported a sustained wind of 62 mph (100 km/h) (I dont know how the Met Office defines "sustained winds" in terms of the period of average). But I'm posting these here for a reference. I don't know how notable it is for inclusion here. In all honesty, Storm Amy will probably need to be spun off into it's own article eventually. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:22, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

FUB lows as storms

Recently there have been quite a lot of FUB-named lows being added to the article. I discourage having ALL of them because some do not produce impacts as significant as real named storms. Some of them are fine, such as Zack which had a wide range of high winds across the UK and prompts yellow warnings to cover the entire country during a certain time period. However, others such as Irawan did not even prompt a single warning to be issued by Met Office despite the UK getting a direct hit. According to the Met Office, not every low that produces impact is a windstorm, so even though Irawan did cause some flooding, it is insignificant. A similar story for Marek which they clearly states that they are NOT naming, unless the models change, in this video , which more or less presents that they do not want the system to be classified as a storm. Thus I think all FUB lows should be discussed on this page prior to being added to the article, about whether they are significant enough. JustECL (talk) 17:08, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

I understand your point; however, this is the 'European windstorm season,' not the UK and Ireland windstorm season. These FUB storms met the criteria to be added because they were 'strong enough or were anticipated to cause equal or more disruption than if named by one of the other groups.' Each of these storms prompted a UK equivalent of an orange or red weather warning for wind, rain, and/or snow, regardless of where they occurred in Europe. It is simply by coincidence that powerful storms happened to intensify across Central and Eastern Europe (not impacting the main naming groups) around this time, thereby prompting the necessary warnings that would usually necessitate naming if the storms had affected one of the officially highlighted groups. WeatherFollower (talk) 21:24, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

I see the point, but as I visit Meteoalarm () every day, I found that there are far more systems that caused an European country to issue an amber-equivalent warning (e.g. Yobst in September had triggered red rain warnings in Italy but was not mentioned, other examples include Fehmi in October, Niksala, Sascha and Talat in November, etc.). Also, storms that cause such warnings to be issued do not always get designated by FUB (especially the ones that impacted the Balkans). I would say that we cannot just put every single one in, and it may be controversial which systems are significant enough to be listed in this article. Therefore, we need a better way to discuss what to include and what to be excluded, and why not use the space here? JustECL (talk) 20:56, 6 December 2025 (UTC)

This is certainly a point that we will need to improve upon in future seasons. Another key point regarding the addition of FUB names with amber/orange warnings is to only include them if they affect a wide area. For example, storms like Yobst and Talat only impacted localised, small areas, not a large swathe of Europe.

For now, the criteria will remain an issuance of an orange-equivalent warning and for the storm to affect a wide area of Europe, whether that's flooding, rain, damaging winds, or disruptive snowfall, without being named by one of the other groups.

We'll certainly look into ways of improving it in the future, but I think this works for now. WeatherFollower (talk) 06:44, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Storm Type

Hello, I wanted to point out that it's difficult for those reading the article to differentiate between the types of storms. For example, someone wanting to know if there were Mediterranean tropical cyclones might use the term "storm" in general, but it can be confusing. For instance, in other articles about the seasons, most systems are extratropical cyclones, but a system like Alice is unusual because it had no fronts, no defined core of low pressure, no circulation, and absolutely no wind (I researched this myself). The best explanation I could give is that this is in an article about windstorms, which is something that attracts attention because it's related to wind, and yet there was one that has nothing to do with wind. So, the best thing to do is to refer to it as AEMET (the Spanish State Meteorological Agency) calls it, "DANA," which is a new term, as far as I understand, but it has nothing to do with extratropical cyclones. To avoid confusion, I would recommend at least specifying the type of storm, since not only extratropical systems are being mentioned, but also "DANAS" or even tropical cyclones in the Mediterranean. Supercellofphoto (talk) 15:47, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

That's a great reason to add that. Of course, most will be Extratropical Cyclones; however, this will help distinguish between Ex-Hurricanes/TS, Medicanes, and DANA's (which, as you said, are not extratropical cyclones but something completely different, not really being a formed area of low pressure).

We may be able to distinguish between extratropical lows and perhaps polar lows coming down from the north, associated with severe cold Arctic outbreaks. But that can be parked for now. We'll see how the latest changes works for now.

Many thanks for the suggestion; it is greatly appreciated. WeatherFollower (talk) 22:32, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

I would suggest to use the term “Genoa Low” for storms like Alessio and Adel instead of “Cut-off Low”, which is technically the same term as “DANA” (Depresión Aislada en Niveles Altos) and refer better to lows in higher troposphere with no surface-level low-pressure center. JustECL (talk) 21:05, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Storm Biron name mis-spelling

I am not sure why Storm Biron is being mis-spelled Byron. I understand that news agencies are spelling it this way, which seems to be an error on there part. According to the official naming page linked here; https://ims.gov.il/en/node/2796?type= --- it shows the name being spelt Biron with an 'i'. These wishes for it to be spelt that way should be respected in a professional manner. WeatherFollower (talk) 21:29, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

I don't know the reason but even the Israeli government uses "Byron" now.  🐱💬 03:03, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Article

Hello, I've noticed some odd things in the article that have caught my attention. The first is the large number of named storms. I see how different meteorological services name systems without any central definition to follow, which explains the high number of named systems. I recommend including systems with FUB names that affect the central group to which Germany and others belong. If a system severely affects the UK, for example, and isn't named by the UK itself but is named by the FUB, it shouldn't be included because the affected country doesn't consider it a storm. However, the central group only uses FUB names. I recommend including FUB names that strongly affect the central region, similar to storms named by other agencies, such as Lothar.

I also recommend using a meteorological history at the beginning of the storm sections. The first paragraph should show the system's history: how it formed, when it was named, its path, and when or why it dissipated. The second paragraph should cover the damage it caused, the alerts issued by different countries, and its overall impact. This is similar to the tropical cyclone sections in the Atlantic hurricane season. It helps people understand the system's development, which is what many readers are looking for. Thanks for reading Supercellofphoto (talk) 12:42, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I completely agree with you. I will proceed to clean up the storms that do not match the current naming standard. Instead, we will only add FUB-named storms if they significantly impact Central European countries, or the North-Eastern/South-Eastern countries (those that do not have an official naming list or partake in the practice).

Regarding the structure: 'The first paragraph should show the system's history: how it formed, when it was named, its path, and when or why it dissipated. The second paragraph should cover the damage it caused, the alerts issued by different countries, and its overall impact.'—I completely agree. I will do my best to fix these issues and retain only the suitable entries.

Hopefully, with the help of the community and your input, this European Windstorm page can become much clearer and more consistent.

Many thanks. WeatherFollower (talk) 17:40, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

I have cleaned if the article, and added a new criteria below.

We still have to run through each article and clean it up as you suggested. That will take a little while, I'm sure that'll be completed over the coming days

Thanks again, for bringing that up, I'm sure we were all looking at that and thinking, maybe we have to change the criteria.

Regards.. WeatherFollower (talk) 18:00, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

MAJOR CLEAN UP - NEW RULES FOR ADDING FUB STORMS

'''MAJOR CLEAN UP'''

We have to get on the issue of the FUB storm. From now on the '''NEW''' criteria for adding FUB storms

*Only add FUB-named storms if they significantly impact Central European countries, or the North-Eastern/South-Eastern countries

*Only if they reach widespread orange warning or greater criteria

(Storms like Marek, Zack etc only impacted western european countries - If it wasn't named by them, it wasn't a European Windstorm)

You May Ask:

Q: What if they prompt an orange/amber warning for the Northern/Western and/or SW group, but does not receive a name?

A: We will not add it in the article if FUB name it as they name all systems, regardless if impact.

We will only add it if it prompts a widespread orange warning or greater to the following areas;

Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary

North-eastern group: Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania

South-eastern Mediterranean group: Moldova, Romania, Serbia and Bulgaria WeatherFollower (talk) 17:58, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

I completely agree with what you're saying, and I appreciate your efforts in cleaning the article as I was wondering the same thing.

I'd just like the mention that the UK Met Office said that they have increased it's naming criteria in the past couple of years due to the increased frequency of these windstorms over time, so storms like Björn and Zack would have likely been named if it was just 5 years ago. For example, the 2 storms I mentioned above were a lot stronger than Storm Evert in July/August of 2021 in the 2020/21 season. I think that's why those FUB storms were mentioned on here. TornadoJames (talk) 20:40, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, There does seem to be a link between past storms being named weaker, especially in the case of Evert. Also, remembering that summer storms like Evert and even Lilian would not get named if they occured in Autumn and Winter.

Thank you, Hopefully now we have a rigid and clear criteria for adding FUB storms.

Regards WeatherFollower (talk) 11:39, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Possible Mediterranean Tropical-like cyclone 25-12-2025

See models on the sea ath west of Italy. A slight warm core low pressuere whith sustained winds over 65 km/h is located ath west of the Mediterranean, whith moderate convection. Supercellofphoto (talk) 16:19, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

It appears that Storm Nils was absorbed by a possible weak tropical or subtropical cyclone located in the western Mediterranean. This system has now become disorganized, losing intensity to sustained winds of 55 km/h and is almost stationary. According to the FUB, this low is called Orlando. I'm not sure if it should be included in the article; however, I think that decision should be made by the friend WeatherFollower. Supercellofphoto (talk) 15:15, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi ya my friend, In this scenario, 'Orlando' wasn't named by Italian (Central Group) or Spain (SW Group) and it didn't affect the areas prompting the issuance of FUB inclusion.

Thank you for bringing it up, and helping keep this article clean.

Many thanks and a Happy New Year

Regards, WeatherFollower (talk) 22:18, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Northern Group Names? Sweden has released a list...

Sweden Met Service has released a list of names. Is this now the northern group list of names, if Norway names a storm will it be from this list? https://swedenherald.com/article/now-the-storms-will-have-common-names WeatherFollower (talk) 22:15, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Storm Benjamin

The tornado killing one person north of Paris, in Ermont, by the Guardian, was not related to Storm Benjamin. KERAUNOS reported the same event (https://www.keraunos.org/actualites/fil-infos/2025/octobre/tornade-ermont-val-d-oise-20-octobre-2025-eaubonne-franconville) but it happened on October 20th, 2025, 3 days prior to the storm. This should be removed from the section and the death count down to 1.

Pierre cb (talk) 05:46, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Many thanks, that has been corrected. WeatherFollower (talk) 16:18, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, but I do not see any change, so I did the change. Pierre cb (talk) 17:43, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. WeatherFollower (talk) 23:17, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

winter storm 'Johannes' in Sweden

https://www.srf.ch/news/international/wintersturm-johannes-chaotische-verhaeltnisse-in-skandinavien-die-uebersicht

The regions of Jämtland, Härjedalen and Gästrikland in Sweden, as well as the Finnish provinces of Österbotten, Satakunta and the autonomous island region of Aland, are particularly affected. In addition to disruptions to transport links caused by fallen trees, there were also temporary outages of landline and mobile phone networks. Emergency services were only available on a very limited basis. According to a spokesperson for the Swedish energy company Ellevio, winter storm ‘Johannes’ is the most severe storm in twenty years.

I don't know where to mention it in the article. Vieilissant (talk) 18:49, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

That is the northern group, and can be mentioned. WeatherFollower (talk) 23:16, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Storm Francis tropical evidence

Hello, I reviewed Storm Francis between January 3rd and 5th due to tropical evidence. The temperature at the center remained neutral during that time, so it didn't have a defined warm core. When the system made landfall, it didn't have fronts, but it did have deep convection very close to the center, and a small eye formed at the center of low pressure. In my opinion, it was a subtropical cyclone. What did impress me was the relatively small size of the system before it made landfall. Supercellofphoto (talk) 13:18, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

@Supercellofphoto:, that is original research, and not allowed on Wikipedia. You are only allowed to add information that is verified by reliable sources. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:15, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

Storm Joseph indentity

Hello.

So I've been looking at the warnings for Portugal and Spain tomorrow and I think that Storm Joseph is actually the small intense low pressure system that will hit them overnight and tomorrow, instead of the large Atlantic low, Marilu, which has been put in the article. Because Marilu is too far away from Iberia and the Azores to have that severe of an affect on that region.

I'm also aware that the FUB has labelled Marilu as Joseph too, but I just think changing it to the other low pressure system is more accurate.

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TornadoJames (talk • contribs) 17:22, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

I've just seen that the low I've discussed above has been named Storm Kristin now, so we don't have to change anything.

Thanks again TornadoJames (talk) 20:06, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

Haha, no worries, thanks for your concern.

I was surprised when Joseph got named. I think when they named Joseph, due to Kristins small size, they must've thought Kristin wouldnt develop as it has done.

Joseph is one of those storms that got named for the risk of impact, but that risk deminished as forecasts change. WeatherFollower (talk) 05:42, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Storm Kristin Gust Record

According to all recorded gusts stored in Wikipedia, the highest gust ever recorded in Portugal was 110mph during Ex-Leslie, 2018. Storm Kristin also produced such gust speed (see the reference). However, according to raw sources which are in units of kph, gust from Leslie is 176.4kph and the gust from Kristin round up to 177kph (which means it sit somewhere between 176.5-177.5 kph). Thus, Kristin’s gust is a little bit higher and should own the title of producing the highest gust in Portugal. No higher gust can be found on the internet, though there is no official claim that this is the highest gust so far. So, should this information be included, and if so, how to cite it? JustECL (talk) 16:09, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Update: IPMA official data has gust in Soure reaching 208.8kph (130mph), a number well above the previous record. JustECL (talk) 07:27, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

this is going to sound crazy but I got hit with it yesterday.

Since I'm a portugeese, I am going to send a picture of my area affected as an example. Charles0304 (talk) 08:02, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

wait I can't send images ack Charles0304 (talk) 08:03, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Historical European Windstorm Names page created

I have created a page showing every European windstorm named by their respective groups. This is in line with the (historical tropical cyclone names) page.

This can be changed when a new storm forms and customised to improve the layout around the storm names.

I hope this is a good addition and helps with historical information gathering.

It can be found in the "See Also" section of the page under List of historical European windstorm names

Regards, WeatherFollower (talk) 21:22, 1 March 2026 (UTC)