Talk:2021 Atlantic hurricane season

GA Review

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Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 18:53, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

• "The season began on June 1, 2021, and ended on November 30, 2021. These dates historically describe the period in each year when most Atlantic tropical cyclones form.[2] However, subtropical or tropical cyclogenesis is possible at any time of the year, as demonstrated by Tropical Storm Ana's development on May 22, making 2021 the seventh consecutive year that a storm formed before the officially beginning of a season." - so did the season begin on 6/1, or on 5/22? A layman might not understand the nuance of the distinction here.

• Not sure if I agree. I mentioned the official season dates, clarified that this is when most TCs develop in the Atlantic, but didn't exclude the possibility of tropical cyclogenesis at any time and then cited Ana as an example. Plus I think that part after the final comma seems to imply 5/22 isn't the start date--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• "Subsequently, three named storms formed in June, tying the record for the most to develop in that month." - I'm not sure "subsequently" is the strongest way to start a new paragraph, and I think it can be removed.

• Done--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• Is it worth mentioning Grace's fatalities in the lead?

• Done--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• "On August 22, Henri became the first tropical cyclone to strike Rhode Island since Bob in 1991 and brought flooding and high winds to the Northeastern United States, with damage estimated at $700 million." - I think the wording can be improved here. Also, didn't Elsa hit Rhode Island? That's what it says in "Seasonal summary".

• Oh, right. Oops :P --12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• "Hurricane Ida became the deadliest and most destructive tropical cyclone of the season by far after striking southeastern Louisiana at Category 4 strength, 16 years to the day after Hurricane Katrina decimated that same region. " - not a fan of "by far", and also, you never say when it was.

• Done--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• Is it worth mentioning Sam was the season's strongest?

• Done--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• " due to expectations of abnormally warm sea surface temperatures, the unlikelihood of an El Niño, and the possibility of a La Niña." - it would be nice to confirm in the lead whether these predictions held up. Were waters warm? Did La Nina happen? (yes and yes according to the summary)

• Done--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• The second and third sentences of "Seasonal forecasts" have the verb "include". The second one would be nice to have some variety.

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• Is it worth linking footage of the saildrone inside Hurricane Sam in the See Also section?

• Added to External links--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• "Thereafter, activity came to a halt due to unfavorable conditions across the basin." - maybe specify like a "monthlong halt" or something, since it wasn't a permanent stoppage.

• Done--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• " Larry initially formed on the last day of August " - why "initially"?

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• "Sam peaked in strength on September 26 as a high-end Category 4 hurricane,[50] becoming only the second Category 4 or 5 hurricane on record so far east or south in the Atlantic so late in the year – aside from Lorenzo in 2019." - that's so many qualifiers that I'm not sure it's important. Maybe just the two sentences on Sam?

• I'm gonna agree--12george1 (talk) 03:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

& wasnt hurricane Ida tha STRONGEST STORM OF 2021? so it should say under 'STRONGEST STORM OF 2021' - Ida & NOT 'Sam'. Monkeylady999 (talk) 00:59, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

That's my review up to the named storms. Will finish later, but I don't suspect many issues in the NS section. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:53, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

• The origins of Ana is a bit heavy on jargon. Can you go into more detail by explaining the meteorological processes a bit simpler?

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• Be sure to link meteorological terms on their first usage, while also explaining the content in a way that makes it approachable to laymen.

• Done--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• Ana effects in Bermuda? I believe there was a TS watch while it was a code red in the TWO.

• Correct--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• Any Bill effects in Canada?

• I'm having trouble finding much of anything. If this forecast ended up being accurate, Newfoundland likely had 0.79 inches (20 mm) of rain at most, which I think may not even be worth mentioning--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• In the Claudette impact section, you talk about Mexico, then you have a long sentence talking about some more impacts, only at the end of the 3rd sentence you reveal that it was from LA to the FL panhandle. I suggest moving the location earlier.

• Better--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• Is it worth mentioning the total fatalities from the Haiti earthquake right before Grace?

• Done--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• "Over 140,000 households across Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, and Rhode Island alone" - alone unneeded

• Done--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• "Larry made landfall in Newfoundland along Burin Peninsula" - missing "the"?

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• "Based on a weather station at Matagorda Bay reporting sustained winds of 76 mph (122 km/h), Nicholas intensified into a hurricane around 00:00 UTC on September 14. Shortly thereafter, at 05:30 UTC, Nicholas made landfall near Sargent Beach, Texas, with maximum sustained winds of 75 mph (120 km/h). " - so I don't think you should indicate the exact sustained winds recorded by the weather station. The infobox rounds the peak to 75 mph, which was also the landfall intensity, but writing it this way implies that the winds decreased from 76 to 75 mph, which isn't exactly the case, just that wind speeds are rounded to the nearest 5 knots.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• "Two additional fatalities occurred in Florida when rip currents swept away two people at Panama City Beach. " - redundant "two"'

• Two less Florida men? :( --12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• Why did Odette turn back to the southeast? That's not a normal motion.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• NCDC has floods and mudslides in Puerto Rico from Peter

• Done--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• You never mention Wanda's turn back to the south.

• Done--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

• "However, there were no reports of damage or deaths associated with Wanda itself, after it transitioned into a subtropical storm." - do we need this disclaimer?

• Done--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

All in all it's a pretty good article. Sorry for taking a while to finish the review. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

I think I've done everything. I'm also gonna go ahead and add the NCDC reports for Peter to the damage toll (it's only $12,000, but still). Thanks for the review!--12george1 (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Storm tracks missing

Someone deleted all the tracks from the storms. Can someone please re-add them ASAP? VehicleandWeatherEnthusiast2022 (talk) 23:58, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

The previous tracks had the wrong colours. If you want them to be readded faster, make them yourself. ✶Mitch199811✶ 00:38, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

@Mitch199811 I don’t know how… VehicleandWeatherEnthusiast2022 (talk) 01:08, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

The original maps have been restored as they were removed improperly. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 01:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Fix Background In Storm Names Section

Hello, so when I use the dark theme for this page, I noticed that the Storm Names section still uses the light theme. May someone please fix it?

Thanks, --YoyoIveGotXP. YoyoIveGotXP (talk) 04:04, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

@YoyoIveGotXP, it sounds like it might be an issue with the Wikitable template, you might want to ask whoever directly manages that code. I am not sure if it is a template or handled at MediaWiki. ✶Quxyz✶ 15:16, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

Alright. How do I find whoever manages that code? YoyoIveGotXP (talk) 13:31, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Not sure, code is definetly not my area of expertise. You could try the WP:Village Pump. ✶Quxyz✶ 14:57, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. I have created a new topic for them. So that they can hopefully fix it.

Update: Issue Fixed! Hurray! YoyoIveGotXP (talk) 22:52, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Ugh. I found it again on the page. This time it's on the Season effects section.

Notice how the dates active sections have the light theme on them.

I tried to get Village pump to fix that too, but they weren't able to unfortunately.

I'm using Google Chrome version Version 141.0.7390.108 (Official Build) (64-bit) on Windows 11. YoyoIveGotXP (talk) 23:38, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Danny Merge?

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to not merge Tropical Storm Danny (2021) into 2021 Atlantic hurricane season. Most editors point out that the size of the season article is too long to accommodate for a merger. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 07:51, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

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there wasn't too much impact from Danny's landfall, and not to mention that its impact section is pretty short which can be merged within the seasons article without making it longer than it already is ZonResearcher (talk) 13:58, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Neutral - as short as Danny was, the season article is 9,500 words, far too long for me to support any mergers. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:42, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Comment - so I've looked backed at the article and calculated a total of 12,417 words, this includes season effects and the notes section. I had no clue how long the article was actually, my apologies ZonResearcher (talk) 16:03, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

No worries, I had the same realization that most season articles didn't have a word count! Check out the top of the season article talk page, and under "section size", it shows how many words are in each section, and the total word count. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:08, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

@ZonResearcher, Quxyz, and Drdpw: - I managed to cut down the season article to under 9,000 words, so at least that's not a compelling reason for a merge. The whole Danny article is 800ish words, but a lot of that is the met history, so it could be argued that the MH is disproportionally long for such a weak system. Also, much of the Danny article is just preparations, which don't need to be in such specific detail (81 words are on the tropical storm warning). So I'm changing my vote to neutral right now. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:28, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

I still maintain a slight delete pose. I really don't consider the season's article as it is a special case compared to most splits and merges from what I can tell. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 19:59, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Slight oppose, Danny is still above my requirements for a tropical system to be spun out, though only marginally. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 19:04, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Slight oppose, a light impact storm for sure, but the article is of a fair size however, and the season article is currently large enough that absorbing this article would make it even more unwieldy. Drdpw (talk) 18:34, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Weak oppose - The season article is over 8,000 words. WP:TOOLONG states that articles of this size "May need to be divided or trimmed," so I don't think merging a storm article would benefit the season article. Jpuxfrd (talk) 02:09, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.