Talk:1972 Adana Turkish Airlines DC-9 crash/GA1

Latest comment: 2 hours ago by Aviationwikiflight in topic GA review

GA review

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Nominator: Styyx (talk · contribs) 15:59, 27 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: Aviationwikiflight (talk · contribs) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)Reply


Non-body checks

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Removed.

Lead and infobox

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Removed.
  • "The aircraft had a go-around during its first landing attempt due to poor visibility." – I don't think it's correct to say a plane "had" a go-around. It's normally the pilots that conduct a go-around. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Changed to "The pilots decided to go-around during the first landing attempt due to poor visibility."

Aircraft and crew

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Done.
Done.
It's mentioned (and expanded upon) in the header "Kazâda ölen hostes Sofya'ya kaçırılan uçağın da hostesiydi", which I added it as a "new" source now. Also confirmed by Gök (p. 73) anyway.

Accident

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  • "The aircraft was returning back to Turkey without passengers from Jeddah after carrying pilgrims to Hajj the night before." – Is there a specific source that says that they had been carrying pilgrims to Hajj? Hurriyet doesn't seem to say that, nor does (Gök 2018). Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Confirmed by in Hürriyet: THY'ye ait Marmara adlı TC-JAC kuyruk numaralı DC-9 tipi yolcu uçağı, bir önceki gece Cidde'ye hacı kafilesini götürdükten sonra, dönüş için ayrılmıştı.", as well as Milliyet below.
  • "During the second leg of the flight towards Ankara, the pilots reported to controllers that they were having problems with cabin pressurization and wanted to divert to Adana Airport for an emergency landing." – Two things to note:
I'm gonna respond below.
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It's from the introduction of Milliyet (p. 1), but they use "altı" rather than the number itself: "CİDDE'ye yaptığı hac seferinden dönen THY'na ait «Marmara» adlı DC-9 jet uçağı, motorundaki teknik bir arıza nedeniyle dün sabah Adana Havaalanına altı kilometre uzaklıktaki Sarıhuğlar köyü yakınına düşmüştür." Looking at Maps, Sarıhuğlar, Seyhan is indeed around 6km away from the airport, so I think 2km is not correct. This sentence also confirms that the aircraft was used to carry pilgrims.

Wreckage and recovery

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Changed.

Cause and aftermath

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  • "In 2020, Sözcü reported that they could not find any record of the pilots being prosecuted over the death of Hülya Maviler." – The cited source doesn't mention the "prosecuted" matter in relation to the death of the flight attendant, I think more generally in relation to the plane crash. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:07, 11 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Changed to "...after the accident."
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A short, but pretty well-written article. Just a few things that need to be addressed and it will be good to go. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Cause

So, there are indeed some differences in the reported cause/failure.

  • ASN: pressurization problem.
  • BAAA: pressurization problem.
  • Gök: engine problem.
  • Hürriyet: problem in the electrical system.
  • Milliyet: Multiple in p. 9. According to the assistant general director of the airline, "experts in Ankara" received a report from which they suspected a pressurization problem. Meanwhile, the captain himself is quoted in the article talking about an engine failure.

Admittedly, I have no idea why I focused on pressurization problems and just mentioned an electrical problem once, while completely ignoring anything engine related. The largest proportion was written almost 4 years ago and I sort of lack the memory to remember much from that. xd Unfortunately, we will never know what the actual cause was since there is no final report available. However, it is also possible that all of these may be correct simultaneously (say, an engine failure may have caused the others), but I wouldn't want to go rogue.

I have made some additional changes to the article after some more thinking.

  • § Accident now says "technical problems with the aircraft" instead of mentioning anything about the cause.
  • Changed the testimony of the captain in § Cause and aftermath to include the engine problem.
  • Also added the expert opinion to that section.

I believe that this is the best way to describe the cause without giving a definitive answer. ~StyyxTalk? 16:38, 12 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Styyx, thanks for addressing the comments above. I agree with your solution as to how the technical problem should be presented. Just one more thing, in § Cause and aftermath, it still says "According to a Hürriyet article from 1999, the pressurization failure was due to a malfunction in the electrical system of the aircraft." As soon as that is fixed, I'll pass this article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 23:32, 13 July 2026 (UTC)Reply