Talk:1972 Adana Turkish Airlines DC-9 crash/GA1
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Nominator: Styyx (talk · contribs) 15:59, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: Aviationwikiflight (talk · contribs) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
Non-body checks
edit- The authorship stands at 87.4% per XTools. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Earwig's Copyvio Detector only detects a 1.0% similarity with BAAA, so not actionable. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- File:McDonnell Douglas DC-9-32, TC-JAC, Turkish Airlines (cropped).jpg is correctly licensed. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not sure File:TC-JAC wreckage.jpg qualifies for fair use. The rationale provided for "Purpose of use in article" is not very convincing. Per WP:NFCC#8, "
Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding.
" I don't see how the absence of this image "would be detrimental to that understanding". Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Removed.
Lead and infobox
edit- No issues or comments regarding the infobox. It is an accurate and concise summary of the article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Just a comment (non-WP:GACR), I don't think the registration is too relevant too include in the lede, especially in the first sentence. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Removed.
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The aircraft had a go-around during its first landing attempt due to poor visibility.
" – I don't think it's correct to say a plane "had" a go-around. It's normally the pilots that conduct a go-around. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Changed to "The pilots decided to go-around during the first landing attempt due to poor visibility."
Aircraft and crew
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...and was due to bring them back later on the accident day.
" – I think "on the day of the accident" is a better way to phrase this. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Done.
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Before the prime minister boarded the McDonnell Douglas DC-9...
" – You could just shorten it to "DC-9" or simply "the aircraft". Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Done.
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Maviler had also been a crew member on a Turkish Airlines flight that was hijacked to Sofia in September 1969.
" – The cited source mentions the hijacking, but not the date it happened on. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- It's mentioned (and expanded upon) in the header "Kazâda ölen hostes Sofya'ya kaçırılan uçağın da hostesiydi", which I added it as a "new" source now. Also confirmed by Gök (p. 73) anyway.
Accident
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The aircraft was returning back to Turkey without passengers from Jeddah after carrying pilgrims to Hajj the night before.
" – Is there a specific source that says that they had been carrying pilgrims to Hajj? Hurriyet doesn't seem to say that, nor does (Gök 2018). Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Confirmed by in Hürriyet: THY'ye ait Marmara adlı TC-JAC kuyruk numaralı DC-9 tipi yolcu uçağı, bir önceki gece Cidde'ye hacı kafilesini götürdükten sonra, dönüş için ayrılmıştı.", as well as Milliyet below.
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During the second leg of the flight towards Ankara, the pilots reported to controllers that they were having problems with cabin pressurization and wanted to divert to Adana Airport for an emergency landing.
" – Two things to note:- The cited source, (Gök 2018), mentions an engine problem. Hurriyet mentions a "malfunction in the electrical grid", whilst ASN and BAAA mention pressurization problems. Which is it? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- I'm gonna respond below.
- I think "decided to divert" is better than "wanted to divert" since we then jump immediately to the pilots conducting a go-around. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Done.
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...6 kilometres (3.7 mi) away from the airport.
" – Where does this figure come from? BAAA mentions that it crashed 2 km away from the runway threshold. Milliyet does not provide a figure. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- It's from the introduction of Milliyet (p. 1), but they use "altı" rather than the number itself: "CİDDE'ye yaptığı hac seferinden dönen THY'na ait «Marmara» adlı DC-9 jet uçağı, motorundaki teknik bir arıza nedeniyle dün sabah Adana Havaalanına altı kilometre uzaklıktaki Sarıhuğlar köyü yakınına düşmüştür." Looking at Maps, Sarıhuğlar, Seyhan is indeed around 6km away from the airport, so I think 2km is not correct. This sentence also confirms that the aircraft was used to carry pilgrims.
Wreckage and recovery
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The crash is the sole fatal McDonnell Douglas DC-9 accident involving Turkish Airlines.
" – Whilst true, (Gök 2018) says it was the only one in Turkish aviation history, not for Turkish Airlines. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Changed.
Cause and aftermath
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In 2020, Sözcü reported that they could not find any record of the pilots being prosecuted over the death of Hülya Maviler.
" – The cited source doesn't mention the "prosecuted" matter in relation to the death of the flight attendant, I think more generally in relation to the plane crash. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:07, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Changed to "...after the accident."
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| 2c. it contains no original research. | A few things to address. | |
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| 7. Overall assessment. | Just a few issues that need to be fixed/addressed | |
A short, but pretty well-written article. Just a few things that need to be addressed and it will be good to go. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Cause
So, there are indeed some differences in the reported cause/failure.
- ASN: pressurization problem.
- BAAA: pressurization problem.
- Gök: engine problem.
- Hürriyet: problem in the electrical system.
- Milliyet: Multiple in p. 9. According to the assistant general director of the airline, "experts in Ankara" received a report from which they suspected a pressurization problem. Meanwhile, the captain himself is quoted in the article talking about an engine failure.
Admittedly, I have no idea why I focused on pressurization problems and just mentioned an electrical problem once, while completely ignoring anything engine related. The largest proportion was written almost 4 years ago and I sort of lack the memory to remember much from that. xd Unfortunately, we will never know what the actual cause was since there is no final report available. However, it is also possible that all of these may be correct simultaneously (say, an engine failure may have caused the others), but I wouldn't want to go rogue.
I have made some additional changes to the article after some more thinking.
- § Accident now says "
technical problems with the aircraft
" instead of mentioning anything about the cause. - Changed the testimony of the captain in § Cause and aftermath to include the engine problem.
- Also added the expert opinion to that section.
I believe that this is the best way to describe the cause without giving a definitive answer. ~StyyxTalk? 16:38, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @Styyx, thanks for addressing the comments above. I agree with your solution as to how the technical problem should be presented. Just one more thing, in § Cause and aftermath, it still says "According to a Hürriyet article from 1999, the pressurization failure was due to a malfunction in the electrical system of the aircraft." As soon as that is fixed, I'll pass this article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 23:32, 13 July 2026 (UTC)