Category talk:Ashlee Simpson albums

CFD 2004 November 3

Moved from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion

 – – Fayenatic London 11:54, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Category:Ashlee Simpson albums

She has only one album, so this category is useless, and I refuse to allow the article Autobiography (album) to be so ridiculously categorized (as has been attempted before). Everyking 20:35, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• Agreed. Delete. —Lowellian (talk)[[]] 12:45, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. How is it ridiculous to categorize Autobiography (album) in this category (which makes it findable starting from category:albums by artist)? Rick Block 14:55, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Because she only has one album and this category, by its very title, implies she has more than one, thus misleading the reader. Everyking 15:07, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • The naming convention for list categories is to use the plural form (WP:CG#Special conventions for lists). I wasn't in on the creation of this convention but I suspect the point is to accommodate categories with one or more entries, i.e. the category name should be understood as category:Ashlee Simpson album(s). -- Rick Block 04:50, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
      • Well then, I suppose we'll just keep a category that isn't categorizing anything. I suppose eventually she'll have a second album and then it will serve a purpose. Everyking 04:49, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Keep and more importantly re-add to Autobiography (regardless of Everykings "refusal"). It defeats the purpose of Category:Albums by artist if album articles are wilfully left out of it. - 18:56, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC) Lee (talk)
  • Well, you try it, then. I suppose you think you can just dictate categorization, but I won't accept useless, misleading categories being added to articles I work on. Everyking 20:32, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Please don't make this ugly. I've voted keep, you've voted delete, that's all. Nobody is trying to dictate anything. Implicit in any keep vote is that the category should be used, I only stated it explicitly because your last comment seemed to ignore the implicitness in Rick Block's vote. You are not the sole arbiter of what is and isn't useful, and if there is a consensus to keep and use this category, then I trust you will respect that. - 22:00, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC) Lee (talk)
• Keep. It's good for category:albums by artist. Tim Ivorson 00:13, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Which is more important: categorizing, or properly informing the reader? Because if we include this category, we are effectively including a falsehood in the article. Everyking 02:44, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• Keep. Disagree that applying the category includes a falsehood. It's an Ashlee Simpson album, so it should go in the category called "Ashlee Simpson albums". Rhobite 02:57, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)
  • Albums doesn't imply to you "more than one album"? Because it sure does to me. Moreover, I think people are carrying categories way too far when they feel they have to categorize things even when only one of them exists. Everyking 02:54, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • No, I don't think most people would assume the plural means there's more than one. It's simply a naming convention for categories. It's better to categorize now than later, and it's better to have the names consistent. And I also think you're underestimating the benefit of categories for purposes such as extraction and visualization. Rhobite 02:59, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep and use DCEdwards1966 12:13, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep—I think it's proper to have categories that will eventually be filled. For example, we have a category for Secretaries of the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security even though thus far there has only been one, because we know there will be more, and there will likely be more Ashlee Simpson albums. If she were to die tomorrow, however, tragically cutting short her glorious career, the category should be deleted. Postdlf 00:41, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • OK, well, I don't agree with you, but the consensus seems pretty clear that we ought to have the category, so I'll drop it. Everyking 03:15, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

After the above discussion, the albums category was deleted along with the parent Category:Ashlee Simpson per Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Ashlee Simpson in February 2005, but reinstated in December that year. – Fayenatic London 12:11, 21 February 2026 (UTC)